rabbitstinger
@rabbitstinger
15 YearsScorpio
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Let your horns down please?
By proving yourself over and over again that you are trustworthy, honest, and true to self. Make me laugh, have my back, and do not be alarmed when I spoil or tell you I care. It's at that point you're in. And once there it's a natural thing for me to do. And that extends to friends, family, and other.
I see, but are there ways you let those people know?
See, I'm finding myself in this situation and eventhough I really like this Taurus....I have no way of knowing how much I'm "in" (or "out")
See, I'm finding myself in this situation and eventhough I really like this Taurus....I have no way of knowing how much I'm "in" (or "out")
By: I have no way of knowing how much I'm "in" (or "out")
I mean that I talk to the Taurus almost everyday and get along great so far yet I get nothing in the way that would lemme know how this Bull is gauging me. Normally I wouldn't even bother and just stop talking to a perons who'd do this but if a day or two goes by with no communication, this Bull texts me asking about me.
I mean that I talk to the Taurus almost everyday and get along great so far yet I get nothing in the way that would lemme know how this Bull is gauging me. Normally I wouldn't even bother and just stop talking to a perons who'd do this but if a day or two goes by with no communication, this Bull texts me asking about me.
Absolutely. I would give you my time. I would go out of my way to do things for you like lend an ear when needed, cook for someone. That one is huge with me. I like to feed those I care for. I would start to open up more. Share experiences, my family, my friends.
I would touch you when I speak. Make sure you could smell me as I walked by. My eyes would seek you out and I'd let them twinkle at you, private joke.
I would share music. i.e. if I asked you to listen to a song I would mean really listen to it, because my thoughts/feelings are within the music and lyrics.
But despite all these ( what to me are obvious ) signals, I would still stand off a bit and expect the first move made on me. Because I want to be 100% certain of the other persons interest. A 'come and get me' type of thing.
I would touch you when I speak. Make sure you could smell me as I walked by. My eyes would seek you out and I'd let them twinkle at you, private joke.
I would share music. i.e. if I asked you to listen to a song I would mean really listen to it, because my thoughts/feelings are within the music and lyrics.
But despite all these ( what to me are obvious ) signals, I would still stand off a bit and expect the first move made on me. Because I want to be 100% certain of the other persons interest. A 'come and get me' type of thing.
And the reaching out. "You are missed. My day is not the same, you are in my thoughts."
Hmmm.... Thanks.
[["You are missed. My day is not the same, you are in my thoughts."]]
That's kinda what I mean, though. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like a Bull would say something like that unless they're completely in love. Right? I'm not trying to fool myself into thinking that what this Bull and I have is close to love yet (even though I really like him that doesn't warrant it) but what strikes me odd is that the Bull was the one who asked for my Facebook after we chatted on that first site, and the asked for my cell to text.
In the case of texting, when I gave the Bull my number I waited for him to text me first 'cos I thought he might be busy. We both hit it of really good yet when he did text me, the texts were pretty frank and short. Since I wasn't used to that (because he did chat and as questions) it threw me of....but I still continued as if that didn't change.
The time frame from meeting online (not on a dating site btw) to texting was within a week and after that it's all been texting up to now. When I'd think I'd be bugging him--I mean, c'mon the short answers get to ya after a while--I'd lay off only to have him text me the next day. I've gotten a couple apologies so far about his not texting, which I didn't expect. When we'd chat online, this Bull would mention from time to time things like "...when we hang out" and "...when we chill" but I never asked him when that'd be. I wanted to but I held myself back.
The bull was also in between jobs so I understood about not spending money on going out...BUT he goes out with friends from time to time. So if even if this bull just saw me as a "friend", why wouldn't he bother mentioning the hanging out anymore? Lately he's been holding back less and less on the texting and, again, by now I'd just let this go but now I'm starting to care about this bull. I can't say that about too many people.
So, yeah, that's why I'm asking about how someone like me would know if they're "in" with a Bull. I just don't know.
[["You are missed. My day is not the same, you are in my thoughts."]]
That's kinda what I mean, though. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like a Bull would say something like that unless they're completely in love. Right? I'm not trying to fool myself into thinking that what this Bull and I have is close to love yet (even though I really like him that doesn't warrant it) but what strikes me odd is that the Bull was the one who asked for my Facebook after we chatted on that first site, and the asked for my cell to text.
In the case of texting, when I gave the Bull my number I waited for him to text me first 'cos I thought he might be busy. We both hit it of really good yet when he did text me, the texts were pretty frank and short. Since I wasn't used to that (because he did chat and as questions) it threw me of....but I still continued as if that didn't change.
The time frame from meeting online (not on a dating site btw) to texting was within a week and after that it's all been texting up to now. When I'd think I'd be bugging him--I mean, c'mon the short answers get to ya after a while--I'd lay off only to have him text me the next day. I've gotten a couple apologies so far about his not texting, which I didn't expect. When we'd chat online, this Bull would mention from time to time things like "...when we hang out" and "...when we chill" but I never asked him when that'd be. I wanted to but I held myself back.
The bull was also in between jobs so I understood about not spending money on going out...BUT he goes out with friends from time to time. So if even if this bull just saw me as a "friend", why wouldn't he bother mentioning the hanging out anymore? Lately he's been holding back less and less on the texting and, again, by now I'd just let this go but now I'm starting to care about this bull. I can't say that about too many people.
So, yeah, that's why I'm asking about how someone like me would know if they're "in" with a Bull. I just don't know.
@ Eleni: Thanks for the reply but I'm not trying to play mind games. Btw, it's a dude not a girl 😄
I know Scorps are known for playing these things, and I've probably done it once or twice before, but I don't like it. Eventho I'm distrustful of everyone (like all us Scorps are) I don't play games to test them. If I truly like someone, I'll resort to my honesty and ingenuity because I'd want them to like the true me.
That's what I've been doing with this Bull....when I wanna say something I doublecheck myself to make sure it's coming from the real me.
I know Scorps are known for playing these things, and I've probably done it once or twice before, but I don't like it. Eventho I'm distrustful of everyone (like all us Scorps are) I don't play games to test them. If I truly like someone, I'll resort to my honesty and ingenuity because I'd want them to like the true me.
That's what I've been doing with this Bull....when I wanna say something I doublecheck myself to make sure it's coming from the real me.
It doesn't necessarily mean one is on love to have those thoughts. We highly value our friends as well. And when someone is a constant and then all of a sudden 'not'. It engenders those feelings. Part of your 'pack' is literally not about and it doesn't feel the same.
Cool. But wouldn't that scare him off? lol
I ask him everytime if everything's OK (with him) but he just says yeah. He'd been having problems sleeping so he'd always say he was tired. I'd say that's the problem then and I'd just wait till he's better, but the fact that he still goes out now and then with other peeps is what seems weird.
In my case, no matter how close a friend may be, if I'm really tired to hang out then I wouldn't go.
Actually he texted me a bit ago and asked if I'd been to this one place. I said I hadn't and asked him about it. He told me about it and said he hadn't been there in a while, so I said, "Do you wanna go?". It was like a club and I'm not into clubbing (he knows) but since I thought he'd ask me to go with him I thought that was my chance to ask. He said he didn't really wanna go since he didn't like that scene much. !!?
I was kinda relived he said he wasn't into that but then why did he ask me that? lol. If that was just small talk it seems weird. Was he testing me? I've read Bulls have REALLY good memory but he seems to forget some things about me here and there. If that makes a difference.
Any thoughts lol?
I ask him everytime if everything's OK (with him) but he just says yeah. He'd been having problems sleeping so he'd always say he was tired. I'd say that's the problem then and I'd just wait till he's better, but the fact that he still goes out now and then with other peeps is what seems weird.
In my case, no matter how close a friend may be, if I'm really tired to hang out then I wouldn't go.
Actually he texted me a bit ago and asked if I'd been to this one place. I said I hadn't and asked him about it. He told me about it and said he hadn't been there in a while, so I said, "Do you wanna go?". It was like a club and I'm not into clubbing (he knows) but since I thought he'd ask me to go with him I thought that was my chance to ask. He said he didn't really wanna go since he didn't like that scene much. !!?
I was kinda relived he said he wasn't into that but then why did he ask me that? lol. If that was just small talk it seems weird. Was he testing me? I've read Bulls have REALLY good memory but he seems to forget some things about me here and there. If that makes a difference.
Any thoughts lol?
Posted by venusianbull
It doesn't necessarily mean one is on love to have those thoughts. We highly value our friends as well. And when someone is a constant and then all of a sudden 'not'. It engenders those feelings. Part of your 'pack' is literally not about and it doesn't feel the same.
Yeah I've heard that you Tauruses really value friends. How do you differentiate between how you treat friends vs. how you treat significant others, though?
For me, no matter how close a friend is there's things I never do with them (besides the obvious lol) such as being really compassionate. I care about them but I never really express that concern besides asking questions, etc. Also, I don't usually hug peeps unless I feel that way romantically.
Since I haven't met this Bull in person--and you are all a sensual/touchy bunch--how would you behave when you haven't met a person face-to-face yet you like them?
I think what a lot of people really don't understand (and I'm sure EVERY sign feels this way, but we are an Earth sign after all and I'm biased). Taurus love really, really hard, so we have to be pretty damn sure we want you to be a part of our lives before we allow you in to potentially f@ck with our heart and mind.
While it may be annoying to a person courting a Taurus, you have to show us day in and day out that you really, really, really want to be with us! I know, it's annoying, I mean, "How much reassurance do we REALLY need?" And in response to that question, a lot! We don't crave attention (well, at least most of us don't but it does have something to do with our other planets too in respect to that), but we DO like to be the world to that person who we love, because they are our world too; regardless if it's friends or a love interest. Once you are in the inner sanctum, it takes a LOT to be removed from that, but don't be mistaken, if and when you are removed, the likelihood of you being accepted back is slim to none, so tread lightly and say what you mean, and mean what you say.
If you are just getting to know him, and you are running hot & cold with him, it will just prolong (your) agony of him letting you into his life and heart!
While it may be annoying to a person courting a Taurus, you have to show us day in and day out that you really, really, really want to be with us! I know, it's annoying, I mean, "How much reassurance do we REALLY need?" And in response to that question, a lot! We don't crave attention (well, at least most of us don't but it does have something to do with our other planets too in respect to that), but we DO like to be the world to that person who we love, because they are our world too; regardless if it's friends or a love interest. Once you are in the inner sanctum, it takes a LOT to be removed from that, but don't be mistaken, if and when you are removed, the likelihood of you being accepted back is slim to none, so tread lightly and say what you mean, and mean what you say.
If you are just getting to know him, and you are running hot & cold with him, it will just prolong (your) agony of him letting you into his life and heart!
LOL We forget absolutely nothing. We just choose to ignore or use the information as we see fit.
I think he was perhaps gauging interest level, seeing if you'd attend the place with him or not.
Mmm difference in treatment between friends and romantic interests. I will joke, laugh, and lightly flirt with friends ( male ), I will talk about 'anything and everything' with friends ( female ). I will tell friends "I love you" and mean it, but there is no romantic interest, just an honest depth of feeling. In its purest sense with no entanglements.
I have very definite lines I will not cross with friends that definitely get crossed with a romantic interest. There it's a narrowing of focus and I will pay strict and very close attention to their likes and dislikes. I will note each and every random bit of information I have gleaned. The important bit in all of this is that the attention is focused solely on one person. And I will use every trick in the arsenal to retain interest.
Taurus attention is not for the faint of heart. And ironically most of it is unspoken. You would notice agitation or even outright ire if the object of it is dating someone else, or even a body stiffening if someone else is spoken of. Because if that mental flip is made it's like stopping a run away train. You belong to us in that way. We own you. And will make no secret of it.
There must be security, at all times. A Bull on shaky ground in that respect is not a pretty sight. Believe me. If you are 'ours' there is no questioning it. And we expect the same response BACK. You're mine, I'm yours. End of it. Chapter closed and NEXT! None of that wishy-washy nonsense.
At this point it seems like you're getting groomed and tested in a sense. Because a Taurean male does indeed take his time. It requires the patience of a saint. They will test your fortitude in more ways than one and string it out for what seems like forever. And this is not coming from a bad place, but one solely to ensure that the choice is the RIGHT one. But hang onto those bloomers when he makes a decision, because it will rock in on your world like a hurricane.
I think he was perhaps gauging interest level, seeing if you'd attend the place with him or not.
Mmm difference in treatment between friends and romantic interests. I will joke, laugh, and lightly flirt with friends ( male ), I will talk about 'anything and everything' with friends ( female ). I will tell friends "I love you" and mean it, but there is no romantic interest, just an honest depth of feeling. In its purest sense with no entanglements.
I have very definite lines I will not cross with friends that definitely get crossed with a romantic interest. There it's a narrowing of focus and I will pay strict and very close attention to their likes and dislikes. I will note each and every random bit of information I have gleaned. The important bit in all of this is that the attention is focused solely on one person. And I will use every trick in the arsenal to retain interest.
Taurus attention is not for the faint of heart. And ironically most of it is unspoken. You would notice agitation or even outright ire if the object of it is dating someone else, or even a body stiffening if someone else is spoken of. Because if that mental flip is made it's like stopping a run away train. You belong to us in that way. We own you. And will make no secret of it.
There must be security, at all times. A Bull on shaky ground in that respect is not a pretty sight. Believe me. If you are 'ours' there is no questioning it. And we expect the same response BACK. You're mine, I'm yours. End of it. Chapter closed and NEXT! None of that wishy-washy nonsense.
At this point it seems like you're getting groomed and tested in a sense. Because a Taurean male does indeed take his time. It requires the patience of a saint. They will test your fortitude in more ways than one and string it out for what seems like forever. And this is not coming from a bad place, but one solely to ensure that the choice is the RIGHT one. But hang onto those bloomers when he makes a decision, because it will rock in on your world like a hurricane.
"... but we DO like to be the world to that person who we love, because they are our world too; regardless if it's friends or a love interest."
That's completely understandable. I have a lot of love within me and I'm not up for keeping it all to myself. If I meet the right type I can completely give myself and trust them. I think love is degraded nowadays to simple "likes". IMO, real love does mean giving it your all to that person somewhat blindly. Nowadays, though, people let their egos and pride get in the way...they don't know when to pick their battles and it ends up badly.
"If you are just getting to know him, and you are running hot & cold with him, it will just prolong (your) agony of him letting you into his life and heart!"
Also understandable, but if I'm doing it, I'm not doing it on purpose. Not at all! I'm just responding to what I get from him. Even at first when I got those frank answers, I'd remind myself that HE was the one who asked for my Facebook AND then my cell so he must've at least liked me. I could keep going but....I dunno, not knowing just gets to me now. Most of my life I had the misfortune of giving my heart away at the first sign of "Hello". If I saw that we clicked, I'd give my whole energy into thinking about that person....only to find out in the end they only wanted to be friends.
It sucks and that's life but that's why I'd really like to know. I could just cut myself from all this and just not care but I don't wanna regret anything. Even if it all ends in friendship, then it would probably all be worth it this time 'round. 🙂 .....but, again (lol) I don't wanna be a fool.
If I am...someone please tell me! 😄
That's completely understandable. I have a lot of love within me and I'm not up for keeping it all to myself. If I meet the right type I can completely give myself and trust them. I think love is degraded nowadays to simple "likes". IMO, real love does mean giving it your all to that person somewhat blindly. Nowadays, though, people let their egos and pride get in the way...they don't know when to pick their battles and it ends up badly.
"If you are just getting to know him, and you are running hot & cold with him, it will just prolong (your) agony of him letting you into his life and heart!"
Also understandable, but if I'm doing it, I'm not doing it on purpose. Not at all! I'm just responding to what I get from him. Even at first when I got those frank answers, I'd remind myself that HE was the one who asked for my Facebook AND then my cell so he must've at least liked me. I could keep going but....I dunno, not knowing just gets to me now. Most of my life I had the misfortune of giving my heart away at the first sign of "Hello". If I saw that we clicked, I'd give my whole energy into thinking about that person....only to find out in the end they only wanted to be friends.
It sucks and that's life but that's why I'd really like to know. I could just cut myself from all this and just not care but I don't wanna regret anything. Even if it all ends in friendship, then it would probably all be worth it this time 'round. 🙂 .....but, again (lol) I don't wanna be a fool.
If I am...someone please tell me! 😄
Posted by Eleni
You're too cute lol
😉 I'm glad SOMEONE is at least telling me that. lol
Seeing it all out here it's starting to seem obvious....maybe I just need to let it go. I don't play the field much, so to speak lol, and I'd thought I'd let Fate take care of this aspect. But I don't know if it'll be worth it too much longer. Maybe I need to have some pride and not go through with this? Even if a Bull is worth it, I don't think I'd appreciate being put through tests. Such insecurity lol. I'm pretty insecure, myself, and I'm not sure if I need this now.
I'll be away from the comp for the weekend--it should help digest this all -- but that doesn't mean I don't want any more advice! 😄
VERY nice insight on all BTW.....keep it coming 😄
^ Prezactly mah good woman. And may I say you're looking most fetching this evening. 😄
Posted by venusianbull
^ Prezactly mah good woman. And may I say you're looking most fetching this evening. 😄
LOL, you are too much dear VB 🙂
🙂
Well guess I'm back 😄
@ cutiebullie: ["What you should do right now since there's too many confusion going on right now is, follow your woman instinct. Act like a woman. Be a woman."]
Well I REALLY like being a guy so I don't think I'd wanna follow this haha 😉 ....but I guess the rest still applies in a way. Thanks
@ Aphrodite Bull: Thanks for that concise reply. That all makes sense and I feel I've been that way (except for being personally affection, since we haven't met in person yet) all this time. Especially the laughter....eventhough I have heavy emotions on my end I haven't expressed them to this Bull because I don't want him to think that's the only kind of stuff I bring to the table.
["Which means we need tangible proof and evidence of your loyalty. We're not as abstract as the water signs who are in tuned with one another, and communicate indirectly. We actually abhor that level of communication."
"One thing a Bull/Bullette despises is UNCERTAINTY!"]
Hmm...this is throwing me off. I feel like this Taurus IS communicating indirectly, which is why I'm here (lol). I don't know about his end but this Bull hast started making ME feel uncertain about the whole thing.
If you put yourself in his shoes, would you feel uncertain? The guy's NEVER mentioned how he feels about me but the only thing that makes me think he at least doesn't NOT like me is that he does respond to me. Even if it's just a "LOL". I've told him I like him. In case it helps, I told him something like this: "I'm not trying to corner you, pressure you or even freak you out lol but I like you"
@ cutiebullie: ["What you should do right now since there's too many confusion going on right now is, follow your woman instinct. Act like a woman. Be a woman."]
Well I REALLY like being a guy so I don't think I'd wanna follow this haha 😉 ....but I guess the rest still applies in a way. Thanks
@ Aphrodite Bull: Thanks for that concise reply. That all makes sense and I feel I've been that way (except for being personally affection, since we haven't met in person yet) all this time. Especially the laughter....eventhough I have heavy emotions on my end I haven't expressed them to this Bull because I don't want him to think that's the only kind of stuff I bring to the table.
["Which means we need tangible proof and evidence of your loyalty. We're not as abstract as the water signs who are in tuned with one another, and communicate indirectly. We actually abhor that level of communication."
"One thing a Bull/Bullette despises is UNCERTAINTY!"]
Hmm...this is throwing me off. I feel like this Taurus IS communicating indirectly, which is why I'm here (lol). I don't know about his end but this Bull hast started making ME feel uncertain about the whole thing.
If you put yourself in his shoes, would you feel uncertain? The guy's NEVER mentioned how he feels about me but the only thing that makes me think he at least doesn't NOT like me is that he does respond to me. Even if it's just a "LOL". I've told him I like him. In case it helps, I told him something like this: "I'm not trying to corner you, pressure you or even freak you out lol but I like you"
In case you'd like to know what's happened to this:
The Taurus didn't reply to my texts on Friday so I thought I'd better stop. I was planning on not texting him the next day but I did in the afternoon. He replied to the first text pretty quick, only to take 2 hours to reply to a second, and then not reply at all. I think he only replies now, out of niceness/politeness. I didn't text him after nor did I yesterday....and I don't plan on doing it anymore.
I've been thinking about this whole thing pretty much nonstop (so what else is new? lol) to the point where it almost ruined an outing with a friend yesterday. Anyway, I don't think I wanna keep going with it.
Relationships shouldn't make anyone feel this way. Even if it IS just a friendship, they shouldn't make you feel this way. There's nothing good we both seem to be getting from this; it doesn't seem he wants us to at least meet and the only communication I get from him is short, not sweet, and not to the point.
I'm not going to text him anytime soon....I'll just stop cold shoulder. Maybe I'll touch bases with him now and then to see how he's doing, only because I sincerely care.
I don't care about the "mixed signals" thing, as selfish as that may sound. I don't wanna hear from him either, I just wanna forget it. Sure it wasn't that long of a time but it's put me through some Hell and I figure it ISN'T worth it, after all.
Any type of relationship you have with a person isn't supposed to make you feel confused, on the edge, negative, etc. I hope I don't forget about that again, and I hope all you kind peeps always keep that in mind, regardless of this whole zodiac/astrological stuff. 🙂
The Taurus didn't reply to my texts on Friday so I thought I'd better stop. I was planning on not texting him the next day but I did in the afternoon. He replied to the first text pretty quick, only to take 2 hours to reply to a second, and then not reply at all. I think he only replies now, out of niceness/politeness. I didn't text him after nor did I yesterday....and I don't plan on doing it anymore.
I've been thinking about this whole thing pretty much nonstop (so what else is new? lol) to the point where it almost ruined an outing with a friend yesterday. Anyway, I don't think I wanna keep going with it.
Relationships shouldn't make anyone feel this way. Even if it IS just a friendship, they shouldn't make you feel this way. There's nothing good we both seem to be getting from this; it doesn't seem he wants us to at least meet and the only communication I get from him is short, not sweet, and not to the point.
I'm not going to text him anytime soon....I'll just stop cold shoulder. Maybe I'll touch bases with him now and then to see how he's doing, only because I sincerely care.
I don't care about the "mixed signals" thing, as selfish as that may sound. I don't wanna hear from him either, I just wanna forget it. Sure it wasn't that long of a time but it's put me through some Hell and I figure it ISN'T worth it, after all.
Any type of relationship you have with a person isn't supposed to make you feel confused, on the edge, negative, etc. I hope I don't forget about that again, and I hope all you kind peeps always keep that in mind, regardless of this whole zodiac/astrological stuff. 🙂
.....Oh and I don't mean to come off as preachy lol. I just came to that last conclusion yesterday and figured it was just common sense.
Sure I may have my own personality and traits but I'm only human with feelings, and if someone doesn't consider that to be good enough to even consider a relationship (friendship, romance, etc), just for the pure and simple fact of just WANTING one with me, then I figure no amount of "chasing-hoop jumping-test passing-reassurance" will be justify it.
That is all 😄
Sure I may have my own personality and traits but I'm only human with feelings, and if someone doesn't consider that to be good enough to even consider a relationship (friendship, romance, etc), just for the pure and simple fact of just WANTING one with me, then I figure no amount of "chasing-hoop jumping-test passing-reassurance" will be justify it.
That is all 😄
WTF....lol!!
Hmmm...
["..Plus, there was no physical contact (ie, hugging and kissing) that took place between the both of you. We crave affection!"]
Well I think this Bull does. I've invited him to hang out a few times, both indirectly and directly, but I got nothing. For example, a week before Labor Day I was heading to the beach while we were texting. I told him when I got there that I was at X-Beach. He'd mentioned he was feeling in the dumps, I asked him why and he said it was probably cabin fever. Of course, I told him to go down and meet me there but he just laughed ("lol"). So I thought maybe he didn't wanna drive and I then said I was gonna go to his place (I didn't/don't know where he lives but I just felt like saying that), pick him off the bed and then bring him back to the beach with me. But to that he also just said "lol".
There's been instances also where I do it indirectly. For example, when I'm bored and just wanna go out for a drive I'll tell him something like: "I'm bored and wanna go SOMEWHERE" "I feel like driving A LOT but I have no place TO GO". etc. On one instance he said he was just home being bored so I thought that'd be a good chance. I said something like that but within an hour it turned out he was at a friend's house. What the Heck? The last time I did this was about a month ago.
["B.I.N.G.O.!
1)You never expressed your feelings....
Yes, a lack of these two REQUIREMENTS will cause us to lose interest REAL FAST! I think, subconsciously, you put yourself in the friendship category. "]
He never expressed his feelings either, so how would it be fair for me to have done that? I was holding back on my emotions cos I thought I'd show them when the time came to meet. I don't show someone my deep emotions if I'm not sure they'll stick around. On his end, he never really expressed deep emotions on anything. When I tried to get something even close to it, his responses would suddenly turn short and one-sided again.
Part of that is why I asked the original question. (What can someone do for a Bull to put his/her guard down?) Don't emotional things make Bulls run away though?
In my case, should I have showed more of my emotional side even though I hadn't met the guy? I'm just curious...should another Bull cross my patch in the future lol.
["..Plus, there was no physical contact (ie, hugging and kissing) that took place between the both of you. We crave affection!"]
Well I think this Bull does. I've invited him to hang out a few times, both indirectly and directly, but I got nothing. For example, a week before Labor Day I was heading to the beach while we were texting. I told him when I got there that I was at X-Beach. He'd mentioned he was feeling in the dumps, I asked him why and he said it was probably cabin fever. Of course, I told him to go down and meet me there but he just laughed ("lol"). So I thought maybe he didn't wanna drive and I then said I was gonna go to his place (I didn't/don't know where he lives but I just felt like saying that), pick him off the bed and then bring him back to the beach with me. But to that he also just said "lol".
There's been instances also where I do it indirectly. For example, when I'm bored and just wanna go out for a drive I'll tell him something like: "I'm bored and wanna go SOMEWHERE" "I feel like driving A LOT but I have no place TO GO". etc. On one instance he said he was just home being bored so I thought that'd be a good chance. I said something like that but within an hour it turned out he was at a friend's house. What the Heck? The last time I did this was about a month ago.
["B.I.N.G.O.!
1)You never expressed your feelings....
Yes, a lack of these two REQUIREMENTS will cause us to lose interest REAL FAST! I think, subconsciously, you put yourself in the friendship category. "]
He never expressed his feelings either, so how would it be fair for me to have done that? I was holding back on my emotions cos I thought I'd show them when the time came to meet. I don't show someone my deep emotions if I'm not sure they'll stick around. On his end, he never really expressed deep emotions on anything. When I tried to get something even close to it, his responses would suddenly turn short and one-sided again.
Part of that is why I asked the original question. (What can someone do for a Bull to put his/her guard down?) Don't emotional things make Bulls run away though?
In my case, should I have showed more of my emotional side even though I hadn't met the guy? I'm just curious...should another Bull cross my patch in the future lol.
"Well I think this Bull does. I've...." Sorry lol, I meant: "I think this Bull DOESN'T...."
.."
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I agree with you rabbitstinger, that it's hard to be the first to put your a $ $ on the line in fear of rejection; however, in all relationships somebody has to be the first to express themselves and let it be known "what is what." I'm in no way saying that it should have been you; however, I will say that sometimes you have to give a little to get a little (or a lot). I'm saying this because I screwed myself in a past relationship because I didn't want to be "that" person who put everything on the line, all I did was alienate that person and in some respects push them away. I've recently been in contact with that person, and while I have no delusions for anything in the future, I did learn from what he said about my actions and what HE thought of what I was saying (not saying). I looked at it from his perspective, and I had to say he was right. I was in such a hurry to guard my heart and not get hurt, that I essentially stood in my own way. It's not something I liked to hear, but when I stood back and looked at the things I said, I could completely see why he felt I just "wasn't that in to him." That was far from the truth, but he didn't know it by what I was saying, but in my (small) defense - I treated him very well, and when I told him that, he said, "You are just that kind of woman who treats people well. I've seen you do a lot for your friends & family, so I didn't think what you were doing was out of the ordinary, I just felt like that was the way you treated people, and that it didn't necessarily mean you were that in to me." I won't lie, I'm not going to tell you I'm not a jaded person that STILL protects her heart, but what I will say is that I did listen to what he said, and maybe one of these days if the opportunity presents itself with someone else, I can get out of my own way.
Good luck with whatever you decide and you never know; once you step back, he may step forward...sometimes when we know we are going to lose something, we buck the f@ck up and just GO FOR IT!
Good luck with whatever you decide and you never know; once you step back, he may step forward...sometimes when we know we are going to lose something, we buck the f@ck up and just GO FOR IT!
Posted by USCTaurusGal
...I'm saying this because I screwed myself in a past relationship because I didn't want to be "that" person who put everything on the line, all I did was alienate that person and in some respects push them away. ....
Wow, thanks for sharing that story!....it really does help. I think I'm in that same boat right now. Of course, I'm still not so certain that he didn't give me the boarding pass for it (lol). Good luck USCTaurusGirl, I hope you get a chance to 'fix' it if that's what you want 🙂
I still don't know what happened and it's likely--from the responses I've gotten--that I was too slow for even a Bull lol.
I guess it takes a lot of energy to put up with a Taurus. Well, I already knew that since my mom is one lol but that's sorta different. Like I said, on my end I'm laying off yet I'd still like to keep in touch with him now and then to make sure he's fine.
Any advice on how to tell him (or any Taurus) that I'll still be here without it sounding like I'm just waiting around?
When he was tired all the time and had issues sleeping, which I blame on psychological stuff, I tried laying off so I told him that he could count on me if he needed anything. I said something like, "I'm not sure that you want it but I just wanna let you know that you can count on me even just as a shoulder to lean on". I never tell that to peeps but I guess it's because I never felt it. Anyway, would it be necessary to repeat it again (I don't really wanna) later on just to remind him, or would most Tauruses have remembered something like that?
It sounds like he's 'mirroring' your actions. My Motto 'An indirect response deserves an indirect answer.' If something is not verbalized in a clear and concise way, then I don't make any assumptions. To me, everything is Black and White. There are no gray areas. You're either interested or you're not. Talk the talk and walk the walk. I have been told by many guys that I am real difficult to read. I find this odd because I consider myself very simple. I'm only guarded when someone gives me a reason to be. Inconsistencies, mind games, subtle
Hmmm... My mind's still hitting a roadblock with this since I still think it was appropriate. But there I go being stubborn lol.
In your opinion, what do you think I should've done then? I asked him last Friday to go somewhere and he just said he wasn't sure, remember, so aside from just asking that again...is there something I could've done to show my interest?
Or what was it that showed him I was uninterested? (which was so far from the truth, of course)
["hints, and unreliability will cause me to put my guards up real quick."]
I would think hints would do the opposite. Tauruses are 'supposed to' to slow to change and to run away at the sign of emotion from what I've read so I would think subtlety and hints would let one know that a person is interested without pressuring them to anything.
[ "I'm really feeling you. I would love to spend some time with you. If you're not interested, I will gladly fall back."]
No, I haven't done that in that way but only in parts. That sounds like something I'd say, though, so I'm not ruling it out.
[" Did you approach him, or did he approach you?"]
In the beginning or when I asked him on Friday about going to that place?
I guess I'll answer both, in the beginning I was the one who approached him. I just sent him a message saying I liked the pics in his profile.
About Friday, he was the one who asked me if I (not US, just I) was going to that place. Once I asked him about it and he described it (he did, which surprised me since he would normally just say: "google it.") I asked him if he wanted to go. I asked him why and then he gave me a sharp reason.
I would think hints would do the opposite. Tauruses are 'supposed to' to slow to change and to run away at the sign of emotion from what I've read so I would think subtlety and hints would let one know that a person is interested without pressuring them to anything.
[ "I'm really feeling you. I would love to spend some time with you. If you're not interested, I will gladly fall back."]
No, I haven't done that in that way but only in parts. That sounds like something I'd say, though, so I'm not ruling it out.
[" Did you approach him, or did he approach you?"]
In the beginning or when I asked him on Friday about going to that place?
I guess I'll answer both, in the beginning I was the one who approached him. I just sent him a message saying I liked the pics in his profile.
About Friday, he was the one who asked me if I (not US, just I) was going to that place. Once I asked him about it and he described it (he did, which surprised me since he would normally just say: "google it.") I asked him if he wanted to go. I asked him why and then he gave me a sharp reason.
"I asked him if he wanted to go. I asked him why and then he gave me a sharp reason."
Sorry....I meant that I asked him why NOT, since he said he didn't really wanna go in response.
Sorry....I meant that I asked him why NOT, since he said he didn't really wanna go in response.
Aphrodite Bull is correct. Most of us do prefer the direct approach, even if it isn't the response we want; we prefer to know. It saves EVERYBODY a lot of time. Also, we are action oriented people, so while we may tell you we care about/love you; we will most definitely show you we care about/love you. Also, as Aphrodite Bull indicated, we will mirror people too, because if we don't know exactly what is going on, then we will step back and not put as much into it until we are reassured again; hence the reason people will say, "Oh, my bull was so in to me, then all of a sudden they stepped back." In my experience, if we step back, it's because that person has said or done something that sent us mixed signals, so in turn, we step back and in a way mirror or follow their lead. Again, right, wrong or indifferent we do NOT take love lightly, and we don't want to be jerked around.
Posted by USCTaurusGal
Aphrodite Bull is correct. Most of us do prefer the direct approach, even if it isn't the response we want; we prefer to know. It saves EVERYBODY a lot of time. Also, we are action oriented people, so while we may tell you we care about/love you; we will most definitely show you we care about/love you. Also, as Aphrodite Bull indicated, we will mirror people too, because if we don't know exactly what is going on, then we will step back and not put as much into it until we are reassured again; hence the reason people will say, "Oh, my bull was so in to me, then all of a sudden they stepped back." In my experience, if we step back, it's because that person has said or done something that sent us mixed signals, so in turn, we step back and in a way mirror or follow their lead. Again, right, wrong or indifferent we do NOT take love lightly, and we don't want to be jerked around.
I agree 100% .
Posted by USCTaurusGal
In my experience, if we step back, it's because that person has said or done something that sent us mixed signals, so in turn, we step back and in a way mirror or follow their lead.
I see...makes sense I guess. I do that sometimes, and I've been doing that with this Bull....which I'm finding out might be a mistake since that would get the situation NOWHERE. And it did.
I (and other Scorps) don't take love lightly either, which should explain why I'm spending so much energy just thinking about this. You ever try throwing a ball over a tall roof of your house when you where younger? You always *almost* seem to make it over but it always hits the side of the roof facing you and it rolls back. You try, try, try, until finally you make it and it rolls over to the backyard. That's how I'm feeling now and I figure it's in his court now but all he has to do is pick it up, walk around, and bring it back to me. Given the circumstances, I wouldn't ask him to try and THROW back. That'd be enough for me to start again.
Now, though, it makes me think of him like a lazy dog (or Bull) laying around, just waiting for the meat (not scraps, but Kobe beef it seems) to come to him with not much effort on his part. Bring him that meat too fast and on the wrong platter, and watch him retreat his doghouse.
I hope I'm making sense (esp. with those analogies lol) and I hope you Tauruses can at least "get" where I'm coming from. This all seems so delicate...like walking on eggshells on top of broken glass. All I feel he has to give me is one day, and I'll give him one YEAR to think it over if he has to. I don't see it wrong, then, for pulling back when I get nothing.
Am I taking the right attitude from this, eventhough it didn't give me the results I'd wished?
Any advice as to what I should do?
Is your mercury in Scorpio?
I'm not sure if I'm reading these charts right....I think it's in Libra. Here's the Chart:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Scorpio 11.17 Ascendant Leo 5.03
Moon Aries 23.12 II Virgo 1.03
Mercury Libra 27.48 R III Libra 0.31
Venus Sagittarius 0.23 IV Scorpio 2.42
Mars Libra 17.04 V Sagittarius 5.00
Jupiter Aries 22.30 R VI Capricorn 5.43
Saturn Sagittarius 18.53 VII Aquarius 5.03
Uranus Sagittarius 24.22 VIII Pisces 1.03
Neptune Capricorn 5.52 IX Aries 0.31
Pluto Scorpio 9.58 Midheaven Taurus 2.42
Lilith Leo 8.35 XI Gemini 5.00
Asc node Aries 1.44 XII Cancer 5.43
This is the chart for the Bull (I don't know the exact time):
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Taurus 20.54
Moon Scorpio 22.27
Mercury Taurus 2.14
Venus Aries 22.59
Mars Aries 27.01
Jupiter Leo 2.17
Saturn Virgo 7.05
Uranus Scorpio 18.54 R
Neptune Sagittarius 19.53 R
Pluto Libra 16.59 R
Lilith Leo 23.27
Asc node Virgo 15.26
FWI, since we're on the topic, I did this whole thing a while back and I guess we're supposed to be REALLY compatible. Also, our animals are supposed to be super compatible too, I'm a Rabbit and he's a Sheep/Goat. That got me through a couple days, I'll admit lol.
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Scorpio 11.17 Ascendant Leo 5.03
Moon Aries 23.12 II Virgo 1.03
Mercury Libra 27.48 R III Libra 0.31
Venus Sagittarius 0.23 IV Scorpio 2.42
Mars Libra 17.04 V Sagittarius 5.00
Jupiter Aries 22.30 R VI Capricorn 5.43
Saturn Sagittarius 18.53 VII Aquarius 5.03
Uranus Sagittarius 24.22 VIII Pisces 1.03
Neptune Capricorn 5.52 IX Aries 0.31
Pluto Scorpio 9.58 Midheaven Taurus 2.42
Lilith Leo 8.35 XI Gemini 5.00
Asc node Aries 1.44 XII Cancer 5.43
This is the chart for the Bull (I don't know the exact time):
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Taurus 20.54
Moon Scorpio 22.27
Mercury Taurus 2.14
Venus Aries 22.59
Mars Aries 27.01
Jupiter Leo 2.17
Saturn Virgo 7.05
Uranus Scorpio 18.54 R
Neptune Sagittarius 19.53 R
Pluto Libra 16.59 R
Lilith Leo 23.27
Asc node Virgo 15.26
FWI, since we're on the topic, I did this whole thing a while back and I guess we're supposed to be REALLY compatible. Also, our animals are supposed to be super compatible too, I'm a Rabbit and he's a Sheep/Goat. That got me through a couple days, I'll admit lol.
Posted by cutiebullie
you guys are not even in a relationship yet, to overanalyze all these things. do you think he even cares for you as a friend? does he check up on you more often or you are the one who initiates everything? let it go. if he wants something from you he will make it happen, without any doubt at all.
True. That's where I'm at right now but I guess I just have a nagging voice inside me wondering what I need to learn from this. That's the Scorpio in me that constantly needs to investigate things and get to the root of the matter until I get concrete peace of mind...but then again, maybe there's nothing TO learn and I'm wanting to see things where there's nothing to see. There's a reason I posted about this on this site and that's because in another context (besides Astrology)and with a friend, this would all sound simply obsessive on my part. At least here, it's understood lol.
Wow,except for the way you think and communicate,you have some beautiful things happening.
I'll throw this out there....a woman is attracted/needs a man who represents her mars sign.Her's is Aries....so that coupled with the fact we bullettes tend to like our men to take the lead,and be strong...I'd say your Libra mind/Mars is trying to be friendly/social...and she is definitely confused on where she stands.
I personally think you need to be a tad more John Wayne,and sweep her off her feet with a little firey testosterone.😉
We really do love that stuff,and since her mars and venus are both in Aries...I can almost promise that's what she wants.
you look great together though,so don't be a chickenshit.
I'll throw this out there....a woman is attracted/needs a man who represents her mars sign.Her's is Aries....so that coupled with the fact we bullettes tend to like our men to take the lead,and be strong...I'd say your Libra mind/Mars is trying to be friendly/social...and she is definitely confused on where she stands.
I personally think you need to be a tad more John Wayne,and sweep her off her feet with a little firey testosterone.😉
We really do love that stuff,and since her mars and venus are both in Aries...I can almost promise that's what she wants.
you look great together though,so don't be a chickenshit.
The only time I could ever see Taurus/Scorpio working out together is you two quite honestly,and only because of her moon.and your other aspects.
he/her sorry....
anyhow,I have not read everything.
anyhow,I have not read everything.
forget the mars comment....but the moon's still good 😉
*pets cutie's head and tries to calm her* 🙂
Haha wow so much confusion. For starters, we're both guys. I'm a Scorp guy and the Bull is a Taurus guy. I'm told this doesn't change things as planetary positions affect a person more than gender. But yeah, it does make things a bit more complicated.
That said, thanks for that chart insight. Like I said, I checked on that before but I don't understand much about what planet X in Y sign means...I just heard we were really compatible. Good to get more info on it! Of course, that's not gonna make this whole ignoring thing easier though lol. Jeez.
Yes, I've been going in circles like a chicken with the head cut off just so I can get some peace of mind, and to see where I could improve myself in terms of communication. As to what would happen if the Bull said he wasn't ready for a relationship? I would WELCOME it! Well, not COMPLETELY lol.
That would give me the slap in the face I need to completely move on from this with no more doubts whatsoever. If he said to give him time I would give it to him (so long as he wouldn't be dating around) and back away, knowing that at least there's a possibility. I would really welcome any sort of answer from him right now....and if he doesn't have one, I'm all up for sitting down and talking about it with him.
But I have nothing and I probably won't do it on my own so only choice is to just move on (with these dang doubts lol).
That said, thanks for that chart insight. Like I said, I checked on that before but I don't understand much about what planet X in Y sign means...I just heard we were really compatible. Good to get more info on it! Of course, that's not gonna make this whole ignoring thing easier though lol. Jeez.
Yes, I've been going in circles like a chicken with the head cut off just so I can get some peace of mind, and to see where I could improve myself in terms of communication. As to what would happen if the Bull said he wasn't ready for a relationship? I would WELCOME it! Well, not COMPLETELY lol.
That would give me the slap in the face I need to completely move on from this with no more doubts whatsoever. If he said to give him time I would give it to him (so long as he wouldn't be dating around) and back away, knowing that at least there's a possibility. I would really welcome any sort of answer from him right now....and if he doesn't have one, I'm all up for sitting down and talking about it with him.
But I have nothing and I probably won't do it on my own so only choice is to just move on (with these dang doubts lol).
["Wow, this thread is still going?"]
Haha!! Yeah unfortunately (cos it means I haven't really found my answer)
Hmm...so I guess there's a reason I am where I am with this guy. Dang.
Yeah, just like compatibility doesn't mean there's no romantic attraction it also doesn't mean there WON'T be but I think by what you just said, I found some sort of justification at least.
Thanks!
Haha!! Yeah unfortunately (cos it means I haven't really found my answer)
Hmm...so I guess there's a reason I am where I am with this guy. Dang.
Yeah, just like compatibility doesn't mean there's no romantic attraction it also doesn't mean there WON'T be but I think by what you just said, I found some sort of justification at least.
Thanks!
I love those little horns! Taurus is grrrr. 😉
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