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Posted by Angeleyes17
I'm experiencing lack of effort from this Taurus guy. When I message him we have a good communication flow going and randomly he will stop. Days will go by and he wont start the conversation.. I would. Am i wasting my time? Should i just be honest and straight up? Its this hot and cold thing going on and its geting annoying now.



How long have you known each other? And have you been intimate yet?
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Posted by Angeleyes17
oh no.. I havent even met the guy yet LOL. Its only been on the exchange of messaging stage at the moment and poking me on facebook. I just feel like now its going no where and its not moving forward.. Are Taurus' men known to be slow with the getting to know/dating stage?

Best description to give to my situation, "its dragging" 😢



I'm kinda in a similar situation, although mine always replies. He told me "I'll do whatever you want, whenever you want." So I'm taking him at his word.

And for the poster who asked if intimacy makes a difference, everything changes after you've been intimate, for better or for worse.
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Posted by Angeleyes17
oh no.. I havent even met the guy yet LOL. Its only been on the exchange of messaging stage at the moment and poking me on facebook. I just feel like now its going no where and its not moving forward.. Are Taurus' men known to be slow with the getting to know/dating stage?

Best description to give to my situation, "its dragging" 😢



I'm kinda in a similar situation, although mine always replies. He told me "I'll do whatever you want, whenever you want." So I'm taking him at his word.

And for the poster who asked if intimacy makes a difference, everything changes after you've been intimate, for better or for worse.
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How long you have you been together? Did the same start off like this too? I'm thinking shall i just take control and say it how it feel? "when are you talking me out?" or will that just scare him off?
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Posted by Huldra
Been with a Taurus before, interested in one right now. Things moved uncomfortably fast with the first one, and in the end I had to let him go... or rather hide to my best ability from him relentlessly pursuing for awhile.

I'm in a similar boat as you are, with my current affections, though I made an effort to be upfront with him about how I felt, and I have all the answers I need for the current situation.

I've recently read a memorable comment by TaurusBull1977 somewhere on this forum that is as follows:
"He's a Bull. Please let things flow organically."

That's a mighty good advice to follow, in my opinion.



I've seen that advice mentioned on here too and have been following that up until now. I've been chatting to this guy since March. Inbetween he has been on holiday and busy so obv I understand that. Its just the natural way for things to flow into place is such a drag now 😢
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Posted by Huldra
Well, just keep living your life and doing you, that's what matters.
That's the best way I know how to stay true to self, without slipping into my typical Piscean stage of being poured into the vial that is your love interest, and taking their shape on an emotional level, so to speak.

I'd say, be sincere and open with him about your feelings and perception of the situation, and see how he reacts/what he has to say about it.



I have been actually. Been focusing on work, going to the gym more, keeping busy with usual household stuff. So it has kept me distracted. But my god this guy is soo slowwwwwwwwwww!! Hes slower than me, because i always thought i take my time in matters like this.

so you feel that i should tell him? ask him if he wants to meet me sometime soon? lol
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This could be a two way thing.

Firstly, if he is relaxed and happy to be by himself he will be slow to react. We don't like change when everything is fine the way it is. We will allow it, but it is progressive.

Secondly, if he is like me (please note the IF), then he might be hang up with someone already, or persueing someone else. In those cases I feel it very disrespectful to want to be with someone yet I am chasing someone else. (Yes it sounds stupid I know... Just remember loyalty actually means something to some of us.)

What is the nature of your chats?

Are they just friendly, does he seem resistant, is he very flirty ect...?
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Posted by OmagaIII
This could be a two way thing.

Firstly, if he is relaxed and happy to be by himself he will be slow to react. We don't like change when everything is fine the way it is. We will allow it, but it is progressive.

Secondly, if he is like me (please note the IF), then he might be hang up with someone already, or persueing someone else. In those cases I feel it very disrespectful to want to be with someone yet I am chasing someone else. (Yes it sounds stupid I know... Just remember loyalty actually means something to some of us.)

What is the nature of your chats?

Are they just friendly, does he seem resistant, is he very flirty ect...?



Thank you for this because it does make sense to me. I'm similar because I'm very much used to being on my own that if a big change happened i can either enjoy the change coz its fun and exciting for il hesitate. I completely agree, loyalty does mean a lot to me also and being very honest here, I'm only making effort with this guy only. I'm not sure if he's still hung up about his ex, we haven't really had that kind of conversation yet. Our convos are normally friendly, sweet and flirty. Flirty comes from him and i react back.
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My reasons for this sort of passive behavior:

1. I hate to impose. I prefer when other people initiate anything really. Even with male plans, I don't really call them to talk, make plans to hang out, etc. I wait for them to hit me up, and I'm usually real easygoing and ok with whatever they want to do. I just hate feeling like I might be catching someone at a bad time. I never want to be that guy. So its almost a form of consideration. It seems like I don't care, because I do.

2. I'm usually content to do nothing. This is kind of demotivates me when it comes to initiating things with people. I only get out of bed in the morning because they make me. They call this laziness I guess, but I consider it a form of contentedness/inner peace.

3. I just move at a different pace than other people. I have friends that will hit me up like every 2 days about hanging out. And I don't get it. I will do it, but inside I'm like "woah woah WOAH...We just were together the other day. What is the rush? Can't we take a break and just enjoy our homes for a couple weeks?". At work, people change roles like every 2 yrs on average. I will stay in the same role for like a decade. That has its own advantages though.
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Posted by tiziani
In all scenarios, why not ask the guy to meet up? It's better than the stress of unresolved. And with zero expectations. Just for the fun of meeting.



I think Scorps really want to feel wanted - almost for you to prove your desire. It could be a power thing, an ego thing, or based in insecurity - maybe a combination of all three. They will put it on some outmoded belief in tradition - the man should court. But they are willing to toss social conventions and gender roles aside in every other area that suits them, so I don't buy it. If they have to initiate too much, they feel desperate, vulnerable, like there is a power imbalance, etc. Their magnetism must not be working. Its hard though to do this with bulls, because we kinda do the same stuff, even if for different reasons. Then it becomes like a war of magnetism.

Fire signs will see us acting like this, and just look at it completely differently. "Oh, this guy doesn't bother me, but will acquiesce whenever I initiate with him? Great! I can be in complete control. This is perfect." LOL.
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Posted by tiziani
In all scenarios, why not ask the guy to meet up? It's better than the stress of unresolved. And with zero expectations. Just for the fun of meeting.



I think Scorps really want to feel wanted - almost for you to prove your desire. It could be a power thing, an ego thing, or based in insecurity - maybe a combination of all three. They will put it on some outmoded belief in tradition - the man should court. But they are willing to toss social conventions and gender roles aside in every other area that suits them, so I don't buy it. If they have to initiate too much, they feel desperate, vulnerable, like there is a power imbalance, etc. Their magnetism must not be working. Its hard though to do this with bulls, because we kinda do the same stuff, even if for different reasons. Then it becomes like a war of magnetism.
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The connection is very strong for us, if you feel bad scorpion is hell, believe me. We consume, not started because we're afraid of crushing the intensity and get hurt, because we would like in our fund something authentic, that starts by itself, out of that convention, having to stoop to that when we're feeling is for us so intense and real. We don't like the mundane and not think. Scorpion has no problem starting if the environment is appropriate, but we don't like the mundane, we hate that, would like something special and you know with us is all or nothing. The connection is so strong that prefer drowning in the poison that trivialize it as "something else". My case at least.

What is expected, what you have done or talk is not for us, we like it real, "is made" without speaking and act much and spoil, subtracts level, that we have with anyone no with you taurus men.

Would start any other woman of fire for example but we do not, not a problem is a matter of convention that are excessive for everything and expect better from such a connection if it is not at the level that we feel humiliated.

You are here talking all this coldly, telling the world, while your Scorpio is probably in hell.


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Posted by Angeleyes17
Thank you for this because it does make sense to me. I'm similar because I'm very much used to being on my own that if a big change happened i can either enjoy the change coz its fun and exciting for il hesitate. I completely agree, loyalty does mean a lot to me also and being very honest here, I'm only making effort with this guy only. I'm not sure if he's still hung up about his ex, we haven't really had that kind of conversation yet. Our convos are normally friendly, sweet and flirty. Flirty comes from him and i react back.



Well, if they are friendly, sweet and flirty, it probably point more to him being in a relaxed state, happy with life roaming the meadows with nothing to bother him.

You are most probably dealing with someone who is a bit more mature since he is already feeling stable enough to just live life, no tension or problems. He'll probably be sweet and flirty without disrespecting the woman he is talking to, and he won't rush.

We are content with doing nothing, yes, but like a Scorp, I think we do sometimes use the time to not only get to know you but also see if you are willing to stick for the long haul. I just don't feel comfortable telling a girl after 2 weeks let's date! I don't know you yet. (Although, yes, this method does screw with us in the long run.)

He is calm and collected, he takes his time and has an idea of what he wants. You would like to re-affirm that idea 😉 You need to get out with him, the chat thing won't do. I can't fall for someone over the phone. Nope, I need to see her so that I can advance and touch/caress her to see how she reacts. I need to see them eyes to find what you have in your soul, I need to build a bond with your presence so that I know this is what I want.

Some good advice all round, but this is still a matter of instinct and what feels natural.

Good luck, but I will tell you now, patience with him will be your first key, your second will be to get physically present 🙂
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And you know I've talked about my life here but scorpion always keeps more than talk, it's just the tip of the iceberg that you see us if not trusted for let you see more. And it is also our nature to think instinctively we always looking for death and rebirth, it's like a fucking drug and our thinking is "mundane or special", and bah if it is mundame I'm going to die again, fuck. Remenber "All or Nothing". Otherwise it's betraying ourselves, our nature, our plutonic intensity.
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Patience is a state of being for Taurus. Which is a virtue in itself no doubt. But things get weird when you don't know what it is you're waiting for Lol. Like is this life? 10 years roll by... OHHHHH SHITTTTT

Perennial Neo in The Matrix. While the world turns, we move in bullet time. Taurus Life




LOL


But then when a Taurus is in love it's like Trinity:"How did you do that?"


Taurus:"Do what?"

Trinity:"You moved like they do. I've never seen anyone move that fast."


Probably because a Taurus spent their entire lifetime doing due diligence for The One.
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OMG Whahahaha

This is true!

Whahahaha
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My co-worker, (Taurus) basically avoids getting into texting conversation, especially with girls he hasn't had sex with.

He blatantly ignores their texts, and I've seen him respond with...

"I assume you want to get together", then ignores anything which has nothing
to do with getting together, until they send one with " I want to come over," or "I want to get together."

Lol.

I don't know where your "patience" outlook is coming from.

His philosophy is to "train chicks," because there are too many losers texting back and forth, and not getting the poon!

Taurus are down to business, and finishing the deal, no dance the monkey garbage.



Well, your co-worker is a player, point blank. He self indulges.

Guess what though. No matter where you go, or who the hell you are, there is ALWAYS that ONE player that plays the game better than you do. That ONE player that will screw you over in your own game.

Keep an eye out on your co-worker, he is heading full speed at a derailment and he doesn't even know it. She gonna break him so bad he'll be liking the boots she is using to step on his nuts...
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My co-worker, (Taurus) basically avoids getting into texting conversation, especially with girls he hasn't had sex with.

He blatantly ignores their texts, and I've seen him respond with...

"I assume you want to get together", then ignores anything which has nothing
to do with getting together, until they send one with " I want to come over," or "I want to get together."

Lol.

I don't know where your "patience" outlook is coming from.

His philosophy is to "train chicks," because there are too many losers texting back and forth, and not getting the poon!

Taurus are down to business, and finishing the deal, no dance the monkey garbage.



Well, your co-worker is a player, point blank. He self indulges.

Guess what though. No matter where you go, or who the hell you are, there is ALWAYS that ONE player that plays the game better than you do. That ONE player that will screw you over in your own game.

Keep an eye out on your co-worker, he is heading full speed at a derailment and he doesn't even know it. She gonna break him so bad he'll be liking the boots she is using to step on his nuts...



It comes back to tell you if you don't try and escalate, NOTHING will happen, it is many times people don't even leave an impression and seem just bland boring to others.

It happens, and then we have 50-100 similar threads.
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I am gonna call bs on this. It proves that their are still some fucked up people in this world who mess up lives of people because they lack self respect and thus respect for others. It proves that humanity still has a huge fucking problem if a so called 'man' or fuck wanna be 'alpha' only sees a woman as a piece of meat.

It proves that we should legalize male neutering as a viable option for being a fucking spineless fuck and allow the blatant removal of the fucked side of society since it serves no real purpose.

Yes, I get worked up by this shit. You come swinging dick around my world, our woman, our life givers with no respect, I will gladly remove the problem for you.
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Posted by Angeleyes17
I'm similar because I'm very much used to being on my own that if a big change happened i can either enjoy the change coz its fun and exciting for il hesitate. I completely agree, loyalty does mean a lot to me also and being very honest here, I'm only making effort with this guy only.Our convos are normally friendly, sweet and flirty. Flirty comes from him and i react back.


Well, if they are friendly, sweet and flirty, it probably point more to him being in a relaxed state, happy with life roaming the meadows with nothing to bother him.
You are most probably dealing with someone who is a bit more mature since he is already feeling stable enough to just live life, no tension or problems. He'll probably be sweet and flirty without disrespecting the woman he is talking to, and he won't rush.
He is calm and collected, he takes his time and has an idea of what he wants. You would like to re-affirm that idea 😉 You need to get out with him, the chat thing won't do. I can't fall for someone over the phone. Nope, I need to see her so that I can advance and touch/caress her to see how she reacts. I need to see them eyes to find what you have in your soul, I need to build a bond with your presence so that I know this is what I want.

Some good advice all round, but this is still a matter of instinct and what feels natural.

Good luck, but I will tell you now, patience with him will be your first key, your second will be to get physically present 🙂
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You??ve already figured him out lol. From what I know about him, he is very much stable and comfortable in his life. Work wise he is successful and doing well. He's defiantly mature and his vibe I get with all this just attracts me about him. He did ask me that when he is in town can we go out for a dinner date. I said yes I??d like that but since then, nothings happened. But like you have mentioned Taurus men would pace things slow. I do want to meet him and see where this would go(hopefully for the best).
I really appreciate this advice you have given me. I will keep this in mind. I just hope he doesn't take things soo slow that I end up being an old woman. haha
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My co-worker, (Taurus) basically avoids getting into texting conversation, especially with girls he hasn't had sex with.

He blatantly ignores their texts, and I've seen him respond with...

"I assume you want to get together", then ignores anything which has nothing
to do with getting together, until they send one with " I want to come over," or "I want to get together."

Lol.

I don't know where your "patience" outlook is coming from.

His philosophy is to "train chicks," because there are too many losers texting back and forth, and not getting the poon!

Taurus are down to business, and finishing the deal, no dance the monkey garbage.



Well, your co-worker is a player, point blank. He self indulges.

Guess what though. No matter where you go, or who the hell you are, there is ALWAYS that ONE player that plays the game better than you do. That ONE player that will screw you over in your own game.

Keep an eye out on your co-worker, he is heading full speed at a derailment and he doesn't even know it. She gonna break him so bad he'll be liking the boots she is using to step on his nuts...



It comes back to tell you if you don't try and escalate, NOTHING will happen, it is many times people don't even leave an impression and seem just bland boring to others.

It happens, and then we have 50-100 similar threads.



I am gonna call bs on this. It proves that their are still some fucked up people in this world who mess up lives of people because they lack self respect and thus respect for others. It proves that humanity still has a huge fucking problem if a so called 'man' or fuck wanna be 'alpha' only sees a woman as a piece of meat.

It proves that we should legalize male neutering as a viable option for being a fucking spineless fuck and allow the blatant removal of the fucked side of society since it serves no real purpose.

Yes, I get worked up by this shit. You come swinging dick around my world, our woman, our life givers with no respect, I will gladly remove the problem for you.
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Posted by tiziani
In all scenarios, why not ask the guy to meet up? It's better than the stress of unresolved. And with zero expectations. Just for the fun of meeting.



Good advice. Messaging is so impersonal. I wouldn't take you seriously if all we did was message.
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That is..

but i do want to meet him.. but hes dragging and being slow about it..which makes it frustrasting lol
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I get that messaging is impersonal but just like someone else mentioned, I hate calling someone if they might be busy I just feel like a bug a boo. So if I send a text, I'm still reaching out to you but allowing you to call me when its convenient for you. But then they don't respond and its like seriously? Do you need me to chase you or make you feel wanted? Ok I did it but I can't keep doing it. It's not my thing. I love you to pieces but clearly the feeling is not mutual. How can we get together if you can't respond appropriately! I need something to go on otherwise I'm shooting blanks in the air. This Scorpio is not used to the ways of the bull but I'm learning early on that it is too much for me. Could've been great even if only short term fling but now we'll never know. Damn you Taurus!