Need help with a taurus woman

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Hey,

I need some input on a situation with a woman. She's a Taurus in her early 30's; I'm Cancer and in my mid-20's.

We met almost a year ago. Our relationship started off as purely professional (we are both volunteers and she was my supervisor), but it eventually grew to a very close friendship.

Earlier this year, she started acting differently:

- She started using me as a confident and would often seek me when she needed help with anything.
- Her kindness grew over time, and she treated me in a very special way.
- She's was very talkative. She would start conversations about random stuff, and will not let go of me. For example, if I tried to excuse myself because I needed to go home, she immediately would brought up a random topic to prevent me from going away.
- She's was very comfortable around me and especially when we were alone. She very much preferred to be alone with me, and she would act geeky and goofy and talk in a childish/girly tone.
- Frequently, she would take over most of my Facebook posts. Every day, I would get several comments or at least a like from her on my Facebook posts.
- We both started our own blog (her idea).
- I know that she has told about me to her co-workers. She confirmed this and some of them have added me on FB.
- She has shared a lot of her insecurities with me, told me that she has been hurt before, that the relationship with her BF sucks (LDR with no romance) and that he won't move up with her and has talked about the future.
If you read these signs, you pretty much get the idea that we had a very close friendship. Actually, a lot of people felt that we were pretty close.

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Now, this:

- Flirting. She would not flirt over the phone or by text, but when we got together, she would flirt. This has included caressing my face with a flower and openly saying that I should come to her house and do "naughty stuff". I never flirted back (I had a GF).
- Touching. Initially, her touches were friendly (like throwing punches at my shoulder). But, as time progressed her touches became very sensual. She once greeted me by giving a kiss on the cheek, but instead of putting her hand on my shoulder or upper arm (like she did to everyone else) she slipped her hand behind my neck and caressed it. One time, I was standing around and she snug up on me... her whole body came in to contact with mine and I felt her muscles relax... I took a few steps back (I had a GF; I couldn't allow that sort of behaviour), but she chased me and snug up on me again...
- Eye contact. When she talked to me, she would make direct eye contact. Her eyes will have a strange glow and she seemed always happy around me. In other occasions, I caught her staring at me, but she would either turn away or wink like it was nothing serious.
- Family. She tried to introduce me twice to her whole relatives: Parents, siblings and cats. When we finally met (at her second try), I got the feeling that her family already knew me.
- Feminine. I started getting the impression that this woman felt very safe around me. She also became very "submissive"... like she respected me as a male... It's a feeling that men only get from their girlfriends and it's very difficult to put in words??_
- Out of the blue, she once told me that we needed to be honest to each other. Again, only my ex-GF would say something like that.
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Other relevant situations include:
- She told me that I'm charming. She laughed while she saying it, but I noticed a hint of shyness behind her laughter.
- She has texted me that she likes me. The wording that she used is dubious, but the only person who ever used that exact same wording when saying that she liked me very much was my ex-GF... No one else...
- During the initial stages of our friendship, she was very interested in knowing all kinds of stuff about me. She once asked blunt questions about my family. I didn't like her inquisitive tone, but gave her some info, so that she would let go.
- She also expressed interest in knowing my ex-GF's name (she was very inquisitive about it and I deflected her questions) and hinted (while I was at her parent's house) that she didn't have any patience to put up with her BF.
- She has told me that I'm important to her.
- She also told me that she tests people. That she knows that it's wrong but that she has no control over it.
- She laughed at my jokes and she would make me laugh a lot.
- She would call me out or text me out of the blue about nothing special...
- We have the same goal: a quiet family life with marriage and kids.
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A couple of months ago, my GF broke up with me. I noticed that she was losing interest, and I kind felt like it was coming. I braced myself for the impact. My heart was broken, but I managed to recover from it quickly.
I fell in love with the Taurus. I told her that my GF had broken up with me and I started hinting that I had fallen for her (never told her that I fell in love with her), but she told me that she saw me as brother; nothing more. Mind you, even after the fact, she would continuously take over my Facebook posts and I caught her looking at my bottom. I once emailed her saying that I missed her and she told me that I needed no invitation to come over to her house. I came over with some gifts and she liked them very much. She was very talkative, wanted to be left alone with me and would start random topics to make me stay. This day, she did some dramatic gestures. I noticed that her promise ring was missing from her finger (first time that that had occurred). That could mean that she had left her BF, but she never told me. She only rocked her wrist dramatically, liked she wanted me to notice it, but didn't want to tell me straight up. I didn't try to come very close to her, but she told me to back off and giggled. When I was leaving, I kissed her forehead and she giggled again.
A few days later I texted her that I missed her and was thinking about her. She flipped. She told me that I should stop doing that, otherwise she would back off from me.
I had no choice to write an email and tell her that I had fallen for her. She told me that she saw me as a brother. That she couldn't give me any hopes. That she wouldn't tell me to move on and that only time should show it to me. She also wrote that she hoped that she wouldn't lose a friend that she greatly admired and that her behaviours would not change. Also, she wrote that she had done nothing to make me fall for her.
The truth is that she changed a lot. She vanished from FB for a couple of weeks. After a month and a half, I feel like I don't exist to her anymore. I kept liking her posts, and did a comment or two, but I felt an ice cold shoulder from her part. I'm totally being ignored.
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Recently, I sent her an email, saying that although we hadn't spoke for a month, that nothing had changed. She replied saying that she needed me to arrange a meeting with a group of people. While organising it, I got the information that the meeting was already being prepared for a week and I felt like I was not going to be part of it, in the first place. But now she wanted me to go.
The meeting took place and I went very well dressed to it (to attract her). During the meeting, she treated me like I wasn't in the room, even though I was sitting right in front of her. She would look to everyone, except for me. I did caught her looking at me secretly, when she thought that I wasn't looking. The meeting ended. We went out for some refreshments. Once again, she ignored me completely. I was standing in front of her, but it was like I didn't exist.
However, I think that I might have attracted the wrong pair of eyes. A girl that was in our group, started being very friendly towards me. She took notice and started making veiled attacks towards the girl. She was being aggressive, but everyone thought that she was joking. I saw it otherwise, because she clearly was trying to cover it up and taking back her words. The promise ring is gone and I think that she really broke up with her BF, because of the conversations that she had with another girl. I'm still in the dark, but picking up the signs I'm positive that she broke up with him.
The next day, I sent her an email, saying that I was happy to see her. No reply.
A few days later, I asked if she would like to see a movie with me. She replied saying that we had already talked about my love interest towards her and she didn't want to.
I can't figure out this whole situation. I simply can't.
My gut tells me that she was very much interested in something more than a friendship, but her actions don't add up with her words. I normally go with my gut, I'm often right. But now, I'm simply confused. I'm pretty much a laid back guy and I can be very aloof. But eventually the signs were simply too many and I started taking notice.
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I became so confused that I looked everywhere on the Internet. Once again, the signs hint that she pretty much fell for me: Rock-solid friendship first; kindness; feeling of safety and comfort; flirting; eye contact; sensual touches; family meeting, etc. We never engaged in any physical intimacy (we were committed to our mates, so it was impossible; I would rather slit my throat than betray my GF) or have cooked to one another (she cooks; but I can't cook to save my life). But everything else checks up with what people say about Taurus.
I tried to show that I'm still interested, but she ignores it or tells me that there's no hope and she's not interested. So I cannot pursue her, otherwise she might flip again.
Our friendship is in shambles and it seems that I'm the only one keeping it alive.
She seems afflicted with something, but I can't get my finger on what it is. In the past, when something was bothering her, or she wanted time to be alone, she would still let me into her walls. Now, she doesn't.
I don't know what happened. Did I read the signs wrong? Has this friendship ran its course? Should I completely back off from her and wait for her to initiate communication again? Should I cut her off from my life entirely? Advice based on anything is very much welcomed at this point: Experience, astrology, alchemy, statistics??_ anything really??_
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Hey, thanks for the input...

I don't know her charts or mine ... :p

When we first met (last year), we were both dating... Me with my now ex-GF... She with her now ex-BF...

She started acting differently earlier this year (when were still committed to other people; that's why I never flirted back)...

Her full-on interest started showing around April, after she told me that she was thinking about leaving her BF??_

My GF broke up with me late-May...

I think she ended her relationship wit her BF (at least I started noticing that her ring was missing) around mid-June, when everything was normal... This is when I came over to her parent's house with some gifts. Again, while I was over there she was very talkative, wanted to be left alone with me and would start random topics to make me stay. Talked about the future. She started showing off her hand to me, as in wanting me to notice that her ring was missing. I tried to come very close to her, but she told me to back off and giggled. When I was leaving, I kissed her forehead and she giggled again.

We were never in a relationship... we became very close friends, but never got romantically involved, because we were committed to other people??_ Again, I would rather kill myself than betray my partner??_
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Thanks again...

The only good advice is to take a distance from her.

>> Distance myself how? Ignore her for a while and wait until she restarts communication on her own; or should I cut her off from my life entirely (forget the romance, let the friendship die, etc.)?

What I had a gut feeling while reading is that she flirts to you because she's unhappy with her relationship.

>> This is one of the scenarios that's playing on my head. If that's true, then this is really messed up 😢... But again... why should her leave her BF and then try to show me that she was single (she has never confirmed verbally that she is single though)? Why border on the serious (she tried to introduce me to her family twice, and eventually was successful) and then walk away?

On the other hand of her side, perhaps she actually realized something that might been ashamed from her that she's ignoring you. And I think that her aggressive part made her a bit ashamed (or was she's doing presentation while in group that the girl was friendly with you?)

>> Please explain yourself.

She is ignoring me to a point where I think that I don't even exist to her anymore. She will greet me like she does to anyone else, and I caught her looking secretly at me, when she believed that I was distracted and wouldn't notice. But apart from that, she will flat out ignore me. Also, why ask me to attend a meeting and then ignore me? Does she misses me or don't?

The other girl started being friendly at the end of the meeting. When we all went out for refreshments, the girl continued being very friendly and the Taurus started being aggressive towards her.

I know that these are very hard questions, but I really don't know what is happening... 😢


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Thank you very much my friend 😄

I'll take your advice.

I'm going to back off entirely from her. I'm not going to try to initiate anymore. This means no more FB, no more emails, no more texts and no more calls from my part. If she makes an attempt at contacting me, I??ll answer as I always did.

If she wants my friendship, she will come around eventually, as any healthy person would do. We got really really close. I think that we both invested a lot in each other. Our relatives and friends know that we are very close and fond of each other.

I acted on her signs and showed signs of wanting something more than just a friendship. So, if she really wants more than just a friendship, and really wants to have a romantic long term relationship, she will let me know. She knows that I want a happy marriage with kids, dogs, cats, etc. I know that she wants the same thing.

I don't have the patience to play games??_ I do have the patience to wait and fight for someone that it's worth it??_ But I don't have time to be pushing & pulling??_ Life's too short for that kind of BS??_
The day we went out for refreshments, she told some of the people that were present that she was thinking about going away on vacation with some of her closest female friends??_ She said that she needs to a get a grip on some issues, and that the best away is just to leave for a while??_
So I??ll play my part and wait.

In the event that she doesn't come around, then I just have to assume that she is an unhealthy person.
In that case, I can only cut her off from my life entirely??_
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You read the RIGHT signals, initially. You just didn't reciprocate or follow through. Bulls are Venusian. Charming, sensual, shy, gentle, traditional, seductive, and very affectionate. With us, it's all in the eyes. We have an uncanny ability to draw people in. It's part of our aura, our mystery. Most (not all) of us are NOT chasers. If you do not catch on the subtle signals, it's adios amigos.

As she gradually began losing interest, your GF broke up with you. You're not reading mixed signals. Just experiencing the effects of the infamous Hot and Cold behavior. At the current moment, she doesn't trust your intentions. Your sudden display of emotions, love and declaration of now and forever is confusing her. Placing you in the friend zone is the safe zone. Observe your pattern of behavior

She flirted. You rejected. She flirted. You were oblivious. She flirted. You didn't reciprocate.

Now...
Your GF dumped you. You're professing your undying love to her. Chasing her. smothering her.

You did an entire 360 from showing NO interest to too much interest in 2.2 seconds!

With Bulls, it has to be organic, gradual. there is no authenticity in your approach. Nothing concrete or stable. She's a romantic, but she's still a realist.

Your actions are waving a red flag with the letters imprinted "REBOUND."

If you want to win her attention and affection again, don't demand an explanation, answers, or asking for a chance at a relationship. No more emotional declarations of love. Your gestures are too much. She's at a code red. The horns will come out. If you're not a trained Bullfighter, you will be strongly advised to get out of her way. A mashed up crab is not a pretty sight.

May I suggest, instead, some finesse in your approach. Try flirting from a distance, make eye contact, slight touches, if you're communicating with her, whisper in her ear. Wear a nice cologne.

This approach presents an incentive....without you cornering her but still holding her interest. Let her warm up to the idea.
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Thanks TaurusBull... I totally see your point and I really appreciate your input??_

Yes??_ those eyes of hers and her way of drawing me ever closer to her life??_

But then again, I'm faithful to the core. I will not flirt with anyone, when I'm with someone already. I can't. Maybe she will come to realize this too. That I would rather die, than being unfaithful. Or maybe she will not. We??ll see??_

The thing is that she seemed to lose interest quickly. I did give her gifts and she seemed interested the week before. But now that you mentioned it, she seemed a bit cautious when I visited her the second time at her parent's place??_ She was still very comfortable around me??_ She was very talkative, geeky and girly??_ She clearly wanted us to be alone and she did talk about what she wanted in the future??_ She also waived her hand around, like she wanted me to notice that the ring was off??_ But she was cautious??_

But again, maybe I did smothered her with too much sudden interest and she bolted??_
And maybe that's why she seemed so keen on seeing me, after I told her that nothing had changed ??_ but still choose to ignore me when I was looking??_

—May I suggest, instead, some finesse in your approach. Try flirting from a distance, make eye contact, slight touches, if you're communicating with her, whisper in her ear. Wear a nice cologne.??

I'm writing down your advice, but right now, I think I'm stuck...

I did put up a very nice outfit and I think that she liked it very much??_ I wore a really nice perfume and I could sense her eyes on me, when I was looking away and eventually caught her looking at me??_ And I was myself??_ And I did look at her a lot??_ But for now I really cannot gave her slight touches and whispers??_

But because I might have blown it with the whole —wanna see a movie together??, I might have to back off a little bit for now??_ Let her go on her vacation and cool her head off??_ I can see that something is really afflicting her??_ She is a very reserved person, but she can really light up a place with her happiness??_ Now she looks very upset and sad??_

I once said that I adored her and that she is very important and special??_ That her happiness comes first??_ Now it's the time to make it true and back off a little bit and let her heal whatever what she has to heal??_ In other words, prove that this is unconditional love and not a rebound??_ rebounds have an expiration date??_ love hasn't
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In other words, prove that this is unconditional love and not a rebound??_ rebounds have an expiration date??_ love hasn't (unless someone messes up)??_

Maybe the hot and cold is not that bad??_ Maybe she's really observing me and seeing me for what I'm worth??_ maybe she will remember the type of person that I am and she will cling to that feeling for long enough to slowly come back to me or let me gently slip in again??_ The last image of me that she has in her mind is me with the nice outfit (it was so nice that I might have attracted the wrong person)??_ she also has a stuffed animal that I offered her once??_ With luck she will cling, cool her head off and slowly come back??_

I??ll continue being the person that I am and that involuntarily made her fall for me??_ Eventually, she may come closer, closer and closer until we are friends again??_ Slowly and surely, she might understand what happened and we might have a shot??_

And now we are both single??_

Thank you very much again... 🙂
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It depends... Well here's the chain of events again:
- A year ago we met. I had a GF she had a BF. We had a professional relationship.
- Slowly we became friends and then very close friends. Everyone knows that we are very close, because it's obvious.
- She may had realized that her relationship was garbage. She started giving hints that she wanted more than just being friends and started pulling me into her life. She also knew that my relationship could fail at any moment. I told her once, at the start of the year, that my GF was going abroad and I was worried that she might dump me because she wouldn't stand the LDR (that became true).
- We invested a lot in our friendship. She introduced me to her parents and siblings; she told about me to her coworkers; she would stick her neck out and do nice things for me. I supported her through thick and thin and I was a loyal friend. This included defending her honor in public. I always had her back.
- My GF dumps me; I tell her she and I hint that I want something more than just friends; She tells me that she wants to be just friends, but keeps the flame alive: She flooded my Facebook with comments and likes; She liked my gifts; She invited me a second time to her parent's home, just that we could be alone and talk about ourselves and her future; She was very comfortable (talkative, goofy and acting like a little girl); I pushed my head towards hers, she tells me to back off but giggles like a little girl and her eyes open up with that same seductive glow; She wants me to notice that her ring is missing, but doesn't tell me; She keeps the talk going, because she doesn't want me to leave her parent's house; I get up to leave, she takes a glimpse at my bottom.
- I acted stupidly, and instead of taking it slow and steady, I succumb to my passion and tell her that I wanted more.
- She's protecting her feelings by keeping me at an arm??s length.
She is still interested. I know she is. But she also is looking at her past and seeing how hurt she got before, and that is better to be careful. Sure, she likes me; but my intentions smell funny. She might have broken off with her BF, when she started to realize that me and her had a shot (I'm assuming too much, but it's a very big coincidence that she dumped her BF the week after I hinted that I wanted something more). But she is saying nothing to me, so that she can keep control of the whole situation, as to avoid being hurt.
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If when you broke off with your BF, you still kept being interested in the other person??_ then maybe the situation is the same and you genuinely fell in love with other person??_ If not??_ then you really flirted just to compensate for your bad relationship??_ In my case she hasn't just flirted??_ she has done the whole nine yards of bull seduction (excluding the sex and the cooking).
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The fact is... we all do stupid stuff... She's acting hot and cold, instead of coming straight to me and saying that she likes me??_ and wants to give it a shot, but that we have to go slow and steady??_ If she sets a clear set of rules (for example, no kissing for the first 2 months, no flirting with other people, spending more time alone, etc??_) I would follow them??_
But I was also stupid??_ I shouldn't have pushed the issue??_ I just needed to take a cold shower, lay back and enjoy the friendship and courtship??_ I know that, because I really miss her as a friend??_ And only come to realize that we love something, when lose it or are bordering on losing it??_
For the time being, there is little that I can do??_ just calm down and let her cool her head and sort up her feelings??_ remember the person that I am and slowly come back to me or let me come back to her??_ I will keep myself attractive and for her eyes only??_
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Posted by Hotbeefy
But Taurus1977,

Wouldn't you come out as childish aswel or is it just typical way for us to doing it?

Because the way he describe reminds me of myself when I'm in love with the person while having bf. Especially when I'm unhappy (without knowing) with my bf back then that I was looking someone else. (to come out in emotional cheating with no touching except handshakes) Through that to the point I got to realized about this that I took it in distance with the person. And seeing the point that I was unhappy with my ex-bf.

Now thanks to ex-bf that it made me surprised that I broke him off for good & never occurred me to have the relationship until someone is willing to step in knowing each other and comes out a great secure guy.



This can be both difficult and rather conflicting for Bulls. Loyalty to our partners, and an undeniable attraction we may have for someone else. Cancers and Tauruses are really not that different in this aspect.