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What are your thoughts on independent women!
Posted by thescepter
strong and dependent ftw!
whats if its not in your nature to be dependent on someone......I know bulls like to be needed...or men in general...
Bulls are provider ... What do you do for your loved ones that make you feel so loved and needed ?
The great thing about independent women, is that they do not care about others thoughts on independent women... :p
A woman is who she is, if a man, a taurus don't prefer it well there are plenty of men out there that do.
Unless you're going to dumb yourself down, best to be with a man that can handle being with that kind of woman.
Unless you're going to dumb yourself down, best to be with a man that can handle being with that kind of woman.
I actually like independent type, and i'm always attracted towards them.
Posted by tiki33
A woman is who she is, if a man, a taurus don't prefer it well there are plenty of men out there that do.
Unless you're going to dumb yourself down, best to be with a man that can handle being with that kind of woman.
AhhhhhhhMEN!
In my experience NO men like dependent women.
And Tiki is right. A better question is : What can you do for me? What do I like?
Not the other way around...
And Tiki is right. A better question is : What can you do for me? What do I like?
Not the other way around...
There are a lot of different definitions for "independent woman."
If you are talking about some ball-busting feminist bitch who hates men who open the door or order for them in the restaurant....
Then yes, the feeling of contempt is mutual.
But if you are talking about a woman who respects her man and lets him do things for her, while the same time returning the favor...
Then yes, the feeling of respect is mutual.
Ladies, what kind of vibe are you putting off? Because if you are being a self-righteous bitch, then you are off-putting.
If you are talking about some ball-busting feminist bitch who hates men who open the door or order for them in the restaurant....
Then yes, the feeling of contempt is mutual.
But if you are talking about a woman who respects her man and lets him do things for her, while the same time returning the favor...
Then yes, the feeling of respect is mutual.
Ladies, what kind of vibe are you putting off? Because if you are being a self-righteous bitch, then you are off-putting.
Insecure men like dependent women (doesn't matter what sign). Why? because they need someone they feel is beneath them because they aren't secure and mature enough to deal with an equal.
IMO, everyone is dependent and everyone is insecure to a degree. These things make us human. Of course almost everyone will say "I'm strong and independent". Its become the clich? of the modern woman. But those that think they really lack these qualities are just fake or seriously repressed. They are probably even fundamental to our concept of, and continued need for what we call love. Its just a matter of the extent and the kinds of dependence and insecurity you can handle from someone else in a relationship. Obviously this is going to vary a lot. If bulls are material providers, it follows that many may feel more secure in a relationship where they feel like their fulfilling a need in that area. I've found this to be true with some of my male bull friends. Some are very capable of being lazy freeloaders though...lol.
It's hard to explain, cause it's not that Taurus don't like independent women, it's that Taurus are stubborn as hell and like control (not because they are sociopaths who want to control a human), but because they like control cause they like living in a world of stability and at a slow pace.
The best way to describe it is, I'm Batman, she's Robin. Robin is strong as hell, has his own adventures and is still a badass, but let's be real here, Batman runs shit.
The best way to describe it is, I'm Batman, she's Robin. Robin is strong as hell, has his own adventures and is still a badass, but let's be real here, Batman runs shit.
MoonArtist,
I guess you are right. Insecurity drives them to control their women. with all the blah blah blah.
Posted by MoonArtist
Insecure men like dependent women (doesn't matter what sign). Why? because they need someone they feel is beneath them because they aren't secure and mature enough to deal with an equal.
+1
Posted by ScorpioFish
There are a lot of different definitions for "independent woman."
>>>>>>.
But if you are talking about a woman who respects her man and lets him do things for her, while the same time returning the favor...
Then yes, the feeling of respect is mutual.
This !!! I guess what I'm trying to say is. I enjoy being treated like a queen. Having a man opening the door for me.. Pampering me etc. but I wouldn't say I like the man the be the leader in the house hold all the time and I find Taurus men do like to be the dominant one. I find it sexy ( sometimes) but at the end of the day I am pretty equal when it comes to gender roles. I need to find a man that likes to dominate and also like being dominated! It's a tricky one. Truth is I always find myself being involved with a Taurus! I attract Taurus men and Scorpio men the most... Both like to dominate... Air signs would probably be more suitable for me... I can't seem to run into one!!!!
I always figured the perfect relationship is when he is king but I am his queen. We would both wield power but in different things, for example: outside the house is his domain but inside the house is mine; equal power but in different aspects of the relationship. It should be him and I against the world instead of pitting power plays against each other.
lol.
The problem Taurus men creates too much emotional drama even their queen have financial independence.
Men wants what they can't have. So it ended like they purchased their women to get what they want.
And if they fail they tend to withdraw. lol
lol. women can afford that movie, clothing and food. etc.
The controlling part of Taurus drives him nuts and causing havoc in a relationship.
Posted by MoonArtist
Insecure men like dependent women (doesn't matter what sign). Why? because they need someone they feel is beneath them because they aren't secure and mature enough to deal with an equal.
Posted by soultalkPosted by thescepter
strong and dependent ftw!
lolclick to expand
.....
Cue, overdramatic
Since when does independent equal rottweiler faced? Does that apply to men, too? Just sayin....
Plenty of independent women who are beautiful. The men who can't handle being around women who don't NEED a man to pay the bills, etc, (but WANT a man to be a partner) are the insecure mama boys who feel that controlling a person is how you get and keep their love, that if someone is dependent on you they can't leave and won't. That's fucked up and warped in so many ways.
Plenty of independent women who are beautiful. The men who can't handle being around women who don't NEED a man to pay the bills, etc, (but WANT a man to be a partner) are the insecure mama boys who feel that controlling a person is how you get and keep their love, that if someone is dependent on you they can't leave and won't. That's fucked up and warped in so many ways.
Someone has a major chip on their sensitive shoulder. Awww, how cute.
But Moon gets it.
He probably has more successful relationships too!
But Moon gets it.
He probably has more successful relationships too!
Posted by thescepterPosted by MoonArtist
Since when does independent equal rottweiler faced? Does that apply to men, too? Just sayin....
Plenty of independent women who are beautiful. The men who can't handle being around women who don't NEED a man to pay the bills, etc, (but WANT a man to be a partner) are the insecure mama boys who feel that controlling a person is how you get and keep their love, that if someone is dependent on you they can't leave and won't. That's fucked up and warped in so many ways.
i was talking to anonymousfarts but implying that independent women are rottweiler faced (bahaha!) is just as silly as the lot of you implying that men that prefer dependent women are insecure mamas boys.
maybe it never really mattered to us? people have different criteria. i've dated very successful, strong, independent women. i never went damn this chick pays her bills! doing taxes with her make me think i'm in love with her!
maybe it doesn't matter to us? maybe it's not that we can't handle independent women but we don't want it to be shoved in our faces all the time? i should have an award made perhaps or a plaque to show my appreciation of independence?
jeezuz u guys need stronger venuses! maybe it won't be so hard to pay bills and keep a partner.click to expand
Here's something to think about: most men who prefer dependent women also want those women to have zero hobbies, interests, friends outside of themselves and their interests. They want the woman so dependent that her only interest is him and her only need is him. That's not a secure man, that's a desperately insecure man who doesn't think he can keep a woman who has her own life and interests already. Dare I say he has little penis syndrome? These type of men will try to crush these things out of a woman if they haven't already gravitated to one who is more insecure than himself.
I don't think it's about shoving our own security or independence in anyone's face. It's about two people both being mature and secure enough to allow the other person to be who they are and have the friends and interests they have without it being a negative to their relationship with each other. It's about trust and being equals.
My venus is leo. I think that's plenty strong enough.
She can be on your side, you clearly need extra support.
Posted by MoonArtistPosted by thescepterPosted by MoonArtist
Since when does independent equal rottweiler faced? Does that apply to men, too? Just sayin....
Plenty of independent women who are beautiful. The men who can't handle being around women who don't NEED a man to pay the bills, etc, (but WANT a man to be a partner) are the insecure mama boys who feel that controlling a person is how you get and keep their love, that if someone is dependent on you they can't leave and won't. That's fucked up and warped in so many ways.
i was talking to anonymousfarts but implying that independent women are rottweiler faced (bahaha!) is just as silly as the lot of you implying that men that prefer dependent women are insecure mamas boys.
maybe it never really mattered to us? people have different criteria. i've dated very successful, strong, independent women. i never went damn this chick pays her bills! doing taxes with her make me think i'm in love with her!
maybe it doesn't matter to us? maybe it's not that we can't handle independent women but we don't want it to be shoved in our faces all the time? i should have an award made perhaps or a plaque to show my appreciation of independence?
jeezuz u guys need stronger venuses! maybe it won't be so hard to pay bills and keep a partner.click to expand
Here's something to think about: most men who prefer dependent women also want those women to have zero hobbies, interests, friends outside of themselves and their interests. They want the woman so dependent that her only interest is him and her only need is him. That's not a secure man, that's a desperately insecure man who doesn't think he can keep a woman who has her own life and interests already. Dare I say he has little penis syndrome? These type of men will try to crush these things out of a woman if they haven't already gravitated to one who is more insecure than himself.
I don't think it's about shoving our own security or independence in anyone's face. It's about two people both being mature and secure enough to allow the other person to be who they are and have the friends and interests they have without it being a negative to their relationship with each other. It's about trust and being equals.
My venus is leo. I think
^ x1000000000
Posted by Tora
I always figured the perfect relationship is when he is king but I am his queen. We would both wield power but in different things, for example: outside the house is his domain but inside the house is mine; equal power but in different aspects of the relationship. It should be him and I against the world instead of pitting power plays against each other.
This is great!
Posted by thescepterPosted by MoonArtist
Since when does independent equal rottweiler faced? Does that apply to men, too? Just sayin....
Plenty of independent women who are beautiful. The men who can't handle being around women who don't NEED a man to pay the bills, etc, (but WANT a man to be a partner) are the insecure mama boys who feel that controlling a person is how you get and keep their love, that if someone is dependent on you they can't leave and won't. That's fucked up and warped in so many ways.
i was talking to anonymousfarts but implying that independent women are rottweiler faced (bahaha!) is just as silly as the lot of you implying that men that prefer dependent women are insecure mamas boys.
maybe it never really mattered to us? people have different criteria. i've dated very successful, strong, independent women. i never went damn this chick pays her bills! doing taxes with her make me think i'm in love with her!
maybe it doesn't matter to us? maybe it's not that we can't handle independent women but we don't want it to be shoved in our faces all the time? i should have an award made perhaps or a plaque to show my appreciation of independence?
jeezuz u guys need stronger venuses! maybe it won't be so hard to pay bills and keep a partner.click to expand
lmao
Posted by scribblePosted by MoonArtist
Here's something to think about: most men who prefer dependent women also want those women to have zero hobbies, interests, friends outside of themselves and their interests. They want the woman so dependent that her only interest is him and her only need is him. That's not a secure man, that's a desperately insecure man who doesn't think he can keep a woman who has her own life and interests already. Dare I say he has little penis syndrome? These type of men will try to crush these things out of a woman if they haven't already gravitated to one who is more insecure than himself.
I don't think it's about shoving our own security or independence in anyone's face. It's about two people both being mature and secure enough to allow the other person to be who they are and have the friends and interests they have without it being a negative to their relationship with each other. It's about trust and being equals.
My venus is leo. I think that's plenty strong enough.
I think you are a little confused. Having hobbies, interests, and friends doesn't make you an "independent woman". It simply means you have hobbies, interests, and friends. You can be just as dependent on someone even having those going on for yourself.
Independence simply means being out of the boundaries of control. Being in a committed relationship itself means you are allowing another person a degree of control over yourself.click to expand
People who are independent are less likely to ditch their hobbies and friends simply because they have a love interest in their life (or partner). Those that do are usually coerced or pushed to do so by the controlling person. A committed relationship doesn't have to have any degree of control over another.I'm not saying that most of the time there isn't some aspect to this but that there doesn't have to be.
I think we're all off topic.
OP was asking What Taurus men like and WHY
OP was asking What Taurus men like and WHY
Why does dependant = controlled tho? What kind of independnence are we talking about anyway? Financial? Emotional? The "I can stand up for myself" thing? The kind of independence where you refuse to take any advice from a possibly more experienced individual beause you're oh so independent? idk about all this. Feeling the need to bring up your mighty independence in a relationship of any sort is an insecurity in yourself imo. I want to depend on my partner, and I want him to depend on me. It's called an union. I want us to take care of one another. To support. If we're in love, why would it be an issue? Of course we'd help each other out however we can. I fail to see the big deal. What do we get if we're both rough & tough independent fucks? It would no longer be a relationship. Not for me at least.
Only read the convo between MoonArtist and scribble tho, dunno how the thread took this course 😛
Posted by anonymousheart
I think we're all off topic.
OP was asking What Taurus men like and WHY
see? that's how they reel the women in.... they're probably grinning ear to ear now. *shakeshead*
and the HAREM starts.
*runs out of thread*
Lol
Great Poetry on your page Scribbles. Do you write yourself?
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by anonymousheart
I think we're all off topic.
OP was asking What Taurus men like and WHY
see? that's how they reel the women in.... they're probably grinning ear to ear now. *shakeshead*
and the HAREM starts.
*runs out of thread*
Lolclick to expand
TAKE ME WITH YOU!!!!
Let us see Scrib!
I have to say, flipping the script, Taurus ARE GREAT at CREATING dependency. In my head for like a second I had myself thinking he was my world and if I lost him I would have "nothing". HA! I had to check myself REALLLLLLL quick and let that thought pass as quickly out as it came in. They are very kind and helpful. A lot of people rely on them bc they are naturally trust worthy. My bull's phone is always ringing.
I have to say, flipping the script, Taurus ARE GREAT at CREATING dependency. In my head for like a second I had myself thinking he was my world and if I lost him I would have "nothing". HA! I had to check myself REALLLLLLL quick and let that thought pass as quickly out as it came in. They are very kind and helpful. A lot of people rely on them bc they are naturally trust worthy. My bull's phone is always ringing.
Maybe I should answer for him sometime, "Taurus Harem Anonymous.....Yes yes,no, Mr. Taurus is very busy right now. He will get back to you in three years after he has time to think over your proposal! Have a great day!!!" 😄
Posted by scribble
ferent forms of dependence and it doesn't necessarily make you a slave as you seem to think. People can be accomplished and have their own thing going on and still rely on their partner for support and let them lead things?
Dependence goes both ways in a relationship. Some people just show that dependence in different ways and it's not always going to be equal 50/50 on every facet of a relationship.
People have their preferences and it's up to them to decide. If you want a certain life style it's up to you to find someone that agrees with those values. There is no point debating about which is better and which is worse.
We're agreeing on the same thing but you're calling it dependence and I call that compromise and working as a team. If a person doesn't feel that they are being hurt by giving up having sex with other people or painting less or whatever the "thing" is then it's not being dependent. I've seen people give up things they love simply to make the other person happy and in the process they are miserable for it. Love doesn't ask someone to be miserable.
MoonArtist,
Taurus man are just plainly not challenging. That's how I defined my ex.He selfish to the
point he only want a woman to follow him. I don't know in general as Taurus men.
There was a night I remember he kept saying me ''do this'' and ''do that''.
I was pissed off that time so I look at his face and said: I am not a remote control that everytime
you want another channel you can change right away. lol. He was speechless.
I also read some of Taurus woman comment that they really wanted to be dependent. lol.
This people is just as the same as very clingy and needy. lol . love is not just too dependent
but it's COMPROMISE to work things out. I don't know if you see that movie with Julia Roberts.
Posted by thescepterMy venus is leo. I think that's plenty strong enough.
nope. not really. not on it's own at least.click to expand
I say differently and since it's my personality I get last say. Besides, I'll outstubborn you any day of the week. I make mules look docile and compliant. ~cheshire cat grin~
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