When will Taurus leave a dead relationship?

Let say if the other partner was found to be disloyal and you had been cheated on?..
What are you holding on to, love, lust, or just stuck in rut?

Seriously, why does Taurus hold on to already dead relationship?

We're dead too

Lol j/k. We either disappear immediately or just stick around for the hell of it until something better catches our eye, but I doubt we're still committed or faithful to that person eeehhh i o no *shrugs*

Well said, tauruschic, so true for me too.

Hi Daydreamer!

I've posted on your threads a couple of times, as I think we've been going through similar things with our Taureans!

Just thought I'd say, my Taurus guy has now ended his very long (dead) relationship, and we are seeing each other properly. So it can happen.
I think they are afraid of the unknown (at least that was the case with my guy), as had been said on here before.. this girl he was with was a "sure thing", and for all he knew I could run off with the next available guy!
They need time to realise their relationships are over, and I think once they have that in their heads they do just go for it... can take a long time though, and you can't do it for them.. they need to sort it out for themselves, and I'm glad my guy finaly did! It took him ages though, I think thier relationship had been dead in the water for about 3 years!

tauruschic... yes so true.. faithful to the bitter end!

ageofaqua x.

Hi ageofaqua,

3 years to get over a dead relationship is a long time! I think my Taurus is still seeing his ex-girlfriend for the past 2 years. Although, he knows she has been seeing other guys to. I noticed one thing about him; he finally took off the pictures of his ex's off his frame. I think he is finally emerging out of his security in a nutshell, but he is taking small steps to letting her go for good. On the other hand, I?m slowly pulling myself and my emotions away from him. I bet by the time he is finally over his ex, I will be over him. Once I?m over him and if he wanted to be me, he has a long way of gaining my affections back. That should be nothing for him, since he is a Taurus; steady and patience.

Here is a question for you, ageofaqua; since he is finally over his ex, do you think he would wonder back to her or she might try to plead for him to come back (I know how women can be when the one they don't want anymore finally decide to move on...)

I'm glad that he has realized his past relationship is a ?dead? relationship and is moving forward with you. The unknown can be a frightening, but what is more frightening is living in tears, heartache, and pain for the rest of your life and never getting to experience the other side of life; blissful contentment, harmony, tranquility and true love??..

He made this comment when we first hung out.........
I said when people get to certain age; they just stick to whom ever they are with even if they aren?t happy with them because they are tired and old. He said, "Why would you want to stay with someone you don't love?!?
(I wish he could answer that for himself??)

Thats weird isn't it, I had a really similar conversation with my guy a few months back. We were talking about a mutual friend who was in his dead relationship, and my guy said "why doesn't he just move on".... HELLOOO kettle-pot-black!
I think the thing with him (and maybe your guy too) is that deep down he knows what he should be doing, he is a smart guy. I suppose it's a lot easier to sort other peoples problems out than it is your own!

In answer to your question, his ex has never wanted to end their relationship, and as far as I know she still wants him back. That is just something I have to trust him with. They still live in the same town, and I live about 30 miles away. If I thought about it enough I could go stir-crazy!
But I know it took a lot of guts and thought for him before he finaly made the break, he didn't enter into it lightly, and I don't think that's something he would want to have to do again. Also I never pressured him to leave her, he made the choice all by himself, and I know what a big step that is for him.. I was thinking along the same lines as you. I thought by the time you leave her.. I'll probably be happy with someone else. Then all of a sudden I hear from him, he's fully left her, and had been wanting to contact me ever since.

I agree with you, the most frightening thing to me would be to live with upset and heartache. I hope it works out for you either with him, or someone who really deserves you.
I would put money on though.. that if you found someone else, either he would come crawling back, and you would be with him, or your new guy would be the one for you.. so it could be a win/win situation. Thats how I felt about it, and thats what got me through this, and gave me the patience that those Taureans sooooooo need!

ageofaqua x.

Yeah, he told me he cares about me and I need to be patience with him. The problem is I'm not sure if he is just stringing along and making excuses. Next time when I talk to him I'm going to say to him, "People are not possessions; they are creatures of the earth." Maybe he will realize people are human not trophy to collects.

You know what is strange is that when he is completely out of my mind, he calls! Like, he knows??.. This happens?every?freakin?time! And all my emotions stir up again and I had to deal with it all over again.

How did your Taurus let you know that he is ready to have a solid relationship with you? What happen between him and his ex?s relationship if you don?t mind me asking? Did you and he saw each other while he was in that dead relationship with his ex?

I never dated much nor do I have a lot of experience with various men in relationships. But I am not any fool not to give other men a chance. I too want to experience the beauty of living in contentment for the rest of my life.

It was the same for me, as soon as I decided to get on with things and starting to feel good about myself and my life, something would happen with him that would bring me right back down with a bump, and then I had to start over.

We were seeing each other on and off while he was still in that relationship, but it was all very complicated (a lot of it, I have posted on here over the last 6 months!). What happened with us (re: him being ready to have a relationship) was that he made a point of being at the same place at the same time as me.. as he's never been the one to make first contact. And now he is quite happy to kiss and cuddle me infront of our friends, and before.. even when he had left her, he had never wanted to.. I think becasue he didn't want people to know incase they got back together. He said to me a few months ago that he wouldn't commit to a relationship he didn't know if he could see through as it wouldn't be fair on anyone, and now I feel like he is.

I've known him a few years.. as I think you have with your guy, and I think you just know when they are stringing you along and when they are being sincere. I never felt as if my guy was stringing me along, as I knew deep down.. the old "I don't know what I want" was actually true!

Of course you want to feel loved and wanted, as does anyone.. and you should. I said to my guy once "no-one deserves to be with someone who doesn't want to be with them in return" and I told him that applied to his (then) girlfriend too!
I think you are right to confront him, and let him know you're not there to be played with.. even if that's not what he's doing, he should respect you for saying it.
I also told my guy that, if I were with him, I'd be loyal and honest, but while he was still unsure.. there was nothing stopping me finding someone who would treat me right.. and then it could be too late for him. This was one of the last conversations we had before he left her for good!

I hope this gives you a bit of hope, I believe everything happens for a reason. Either you are meant to be with this guy, or this is teaching you a good life lesson which you will take with you forever, and will never settle for second best.

Honestly, for most Tauruses disloyalty and unfaithfulness will make them disappear almost immediately. If the relationship is bad all around (but without cheating) the motivation for staying is pretty much what motivates Tauruses in almost every other situation: comfort and security.

In his e-mails to me some of his replied was, ?I didn?t reject you. I?m in a crazy time in my life and it is hard not to give people want they want. Who knows the future?? People would say, ?Of course, that what they always say when you have put your foot down.? It doesn?t matter to me weather people say this or he say that, all I know is, I have choices too.

I?m very disappointed that he called me at 2:30 AM when I clearly stated that I don?t want the late night calls anymore. I didn?t pick up the phone. I wanted to make a strong and clear statement that I do respect myself and I?m not going to let him treat me this way. I?m so upset, that right now, I care about my feelings more than I care about his.

If he is genuine in everything he has told me, I?m willing to accept him for his abandonment during his crazy time. I don?t understand why people stay in dead relationship is, ?If the person has value to you, what are you holding on to?? I?m glad your Taurus his finally realize that you are more valuable to cherish than a broken antique that lost it?s value.

Im meant to say, "has no value."

Are you sure disloyality will make a Taurus leave for sure?! I know his ex is seeing other guys. I overheard him talking to his friend that if he see her with that cad he will mess him up." At least I know he has a jealousy streak.

I don't think disloyalty will make us all leave, it depends how much feelings are involved, how long you've been together and things of that nature. In a way I think we're also very stubborn when we want to make things work. I think that it depends on the person, was it a one time thing and can you honestly trust them again. However it the rest isn't so good then we'll start growing distant and our eyes start roaming the other side of the fence 😛 Depends, depends it all depends...

I'm not a Taurus so I can't speak for them. I can only share with you what how I've seen them witness these types of situations.

From what I've seen, Taurus will hold on to dear life until the very end; they won't give up until they absolutely have to. That's IF they're truly in love with you to begin with.

When Taurus is in love, they allow their love life & that person to consume them. When they are hurt/betrayed by someone they love, it pains them deeply. Sometimes they'd rather stay simply b/c the pain of letting go is considered more painful than the pain of staying even if doing so will make them look like the dumbass or passive partner.

They hate giving up, especially if they've convinced all of their friends/family that their partners were "the one." Sometimes it's also an ego thing. For some, breaking up means admitting that you picked the wrong person or made a mistake in judgement & some people hate to hear "I told you so" when the truth finally comes out & when all their family/friends are rubbing it in their faces.

Taurus' are extremely loyal. Giving up is def. the last resort, NOT the 1st. BUT, if they face enough ridicule from their other loved ones after deciding to forgive you, they'll slowly BUT surely start to emotionally detach. They hate it when their closest friends/family don't support their relationship.

Once a Taurus leaves though, they're normally gone forever. In the very beginning when the betrayal happens, Taurus may even be the 1 apologizing & trying to hold on even though the other person oughta be doing all the "sucking up." Then the next minute & the next thing you know, Taurus will be gone, emotionally detached & walking around as if it never happened. Weird.

Just asked the Taurean male, and he says "It's takes me a long time to leave a relationship, even if it's really, really bad".

He says he's never actually ended one because he believes in never giving up.


(Dear God, that would be unhealthy for me, however, different ways of thinking and all that...).

Krysrenee7 is right on the money! She just described me perfectly in how I deal with breakups. I've also told my Cappy over and over that when I'm gone....I'm gone. There will be no coming back, but it takes me a long time to get to that point. As Taureans, we're stubborn and loyal.....trying to get someone with those qualities to give up is like waiting for all the molasses to empty from a jar.

We'll work on it, we'll suffer, we'll compromise...we'll do everything within our power to make it work, but we will eventually run out of steam or love. When it's gone. We're gone.

^ This. And also I've clowned around a bit about the 'Taurean Tally Sheet', but actually there's truth twisted in the joke. I will do everything in my power to make things go, keep them going. Put my shoulder to it and shove with everything in me.
But if I'm hurt enough, over and over again. If I've been proved too constantly that you are not worthy of my feelings, a pall falls over things. You can slowly feel things unplugging, one by one. This is a gradual process, not something that occurs overnight.
I do care what my friends and family think on such matters, because they know ME, absolutely. But I will not let that stop me, cause for concerns assuredly but I will ( and have done ) 'poo-poo' if I feel that someone is worth my time, my affection and so on. ( That loyalty thing, DAMMIT! ) That doesn't mean I ignore them, I listen, internalize and break down information. But I'm egotistical enough to say that if I feel I'm right on a subject, well that's it. Or prove me wrong. And if I AM wrong, it'll sink in eventually. Failure is never in the equation, it pains me deeply.
Once things are done, they are DONE. That falls into irretrievable territory. I have never opened my arms wide to someone who has sunk me so low that I can see no other avenue of exploration. That to this Taurus is bad, like a well of poisoned water never to be drunk from again. It makes you ill you see, takes away from what you are, who you are. Going back to that is madness. It's not that feeling just dries up and blows away in the wind..it's that you bin it mentally, because the alternative is so appalling. Of course you still have memories, twinges of remorse, genuine missing like any other human being, you just know better. Common sense and your own heart and head keep telling you that.
And another thing about Taurus..or this one rather. I could be deeply in pain, crushed with it..but I will still raise my head up high and you won't see it. Pride. And knowing. Knowing that I won't go back, and not letting someone else be master over a part of myself wrongly given. Trust misplaced, love given freely trampled on.
Someone simply ceases to exist in that arena for me, mental wasteland.

^ Was agreeing with Bullette.

NOT that unconditional love is not given. Not at all. When I love I give myself entirely. Getting it back in the same manner...different altogether. I only have one relationship to draw on, a marriage of 13 years.

He did indeed, for a 20 year old ( at the time ) he met at work. Apparently wifey wasn't enough. Softly though, softly. He did me the most immense favor in doing that, he truly did. He taught me exactly what I do not want in a male of the species. And he also gave me another lesson. That he was not strong enough, sound enough for a relationship. Not one of that magnitude at any rate. I came to know myself, to revere exactly how I am. To pinpoint fault lines, to come to terms with the harsh reality that not everything is all sunlight and rose petals. It taught me that I am indeed strong enough to take everything by the proverbial balls and manage on my own. That I needn't depend on anyone but me.
That while I'm not the most beautiful, the most wise or kind at all times, that I'm still an amazing woman. He cannot take that from me, ever.

I can't speak for the menfolk, but marriage to me is most serious and the ending point. It's a very real recognition of feelings and intentions. Pride in carrying his last name, and taking my rightful place at his side. It's a permanency to it ( yes, I still believe in the institution itself, too much of a bloody romantic not too.. ) that is not like just shacking up.

Yes, we can be stubborn, and yes we can hold on to the bitter end, but when it's over. It's over. Very rarely will you hear of a Taurus person going back and forth with someone over and over again for a prolonged period of time. Will we go back once or twice? ABSOLUTELY! When we love someone, we give them MANY benefits of the doubt. I think, in part, that Krysrenee did hit on something that is (for me anyway) in respect to ego. We don't like to fail, and when something isn't right, we can internalize and really FEEL that failure. We don't take our personal relationships too lightly (that whole earth sign thing), so when we put our all into something...we put our ALL into something. Now, if you are just a casual person, or we aren't "that in to you." You can be dropped without a moments notice or hesitation, but once you get into our heart, you are not disengaged so easily. We've all talked about this in many threads (over my time here) and it seems that one thing most of us have in common is that we love very deeply, and once that love is betrayed, we can forgive but we can't forget (I'm sure like most people). I will speak for ONLY ME, I am not that person who falls off the horse and gets back up (in respect to relationships) and keeps trying over and over again. I work on ME, and being the best ME I can be. If that means I'm alone, then so be it, but that works for ME. I respect those who do get knocked down a few times and STILL get up to jump back on that relationship horse...I am NOT mad at them - it works for them. Me, not so much. I give too much of myself when I am in a relationship, so when it fails, I don't take it too lightly. Anywhoo...I've droned on enough 🙂
HAPPY FRIDAY!!

Posted by venusianbull
I can't speak for the menfolk, but marriage to me is most serious and the ending point. It's a very real recognition of feelings and intentions. Pride in carrying his last name, and taking my rightful place at his side. It's a permanency to it ( yes, I still believe in the institution itself, too much of a bloody romantic not too.. ) that is not like just shacking up.

I'm not going to live with a man I am not married to (and most likely I won't be getting married), but it's not for the same reasons as VB, nor is it any religious thing either. I did live with someone before,and that was fine, but it's not something I need to do again. If we aren't married, he can keep his ass at his own house, and I'll be at mine.

Posted by venusianbull

It taught me ....
That while I'm not the most beautiful, ...yada yada yada...

What a load of BULL. VB you are gorgeous. No more crap like that from you, OK?




I was reading one of the astrological "bibles" last night and the author (can't remember if it was Linda or Athena or whoever) reckoned that a Taurus guy would rather stay in the bad marriage/relationship and screw around on the side because they like the 'security' of the established relationship. Even if it sucks, apparently.
Very sad.
I am watching one now....

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Posted by venusianbull

It taught me ....
That while I'm not the most beautiful, ...yada yada yada...

What a load of BULL. VB you are gorgeous. No more crap like that from you, OK?




I was reading one of the astrological "bibles" last night and the author (can't remember if it was Linda or Athena or whoever) reckoned that a Taurus guy would rather stay in the bad marriage/relationship and screw around on the side because they like the 'security' of the established relationship. Even if it sucks, apparently.
Very sad.
I am watching one now....

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Hanging on because of the security part of the relationship is true for both sexes of Taureans. I have personally done that in two marriages that were doomed. However, the part about staying in the relationship and screwing around on the side is more a male than female thing, at least for this bullette.

Aye aye Aries! *snappily saluting*

Agreed taurusgirl..I've never cheated, with zero plans too in future.

It's neither, it's called love, and the willingness to stick. Knowing full well that relationship does not entail sparkling waterfalls and the lindy hop 24/7. It's about work, and arguing, and pushing through despite someones faults and foibles. At the end of the day, that's your choice, that's who you care about. You don't just do a slow dissolve or take a powder because you got one too many dutch ovens. Because he left the clippers out and got hair in the sink...you exhaust every avenue. And even then it may not be done with grace, it's a soul sick, feel it in your guts. The Taurus creed: Adversus exitus optio non est.

*snickers @ "Adversus exitus optio non est *
Seriously though, while I agree with you VB, I can see janettams point in that to an outsider looking in, it can appear desperate or that we can't stand to be alone. I will say, for me, I don't care about not being alone - I'm fine with just me. When it comes to the sticking it out and making it work in a relationship, in some respects there is a "desperation" about it. While I was never married, I was with someone for awhile and engaged to them the last year of our 8 year relationship, and I have to say that when I saw it falling apart I dug my heels in and tried to do everything possible to make it work because I loved him with ever fiber of my being. So, to others, that would appear (and to some extent) was desperate; however, when the sails shift and it is clear that this stubborn bull can not do it, then I do move on. Whether it is work, relationships (with friends or a partner), I take them seriously and always put in 150% ; to do otherwise just doesn't sit well with me. My motto is, "I don't do anything half-a $ $ ed, I only do it whole a $ $ !" Does that mean everything is perfect? NOPE, but I'll be damned if ANYBODY will be able to say I didn't go above and beyond - for me, simply put, it's a pride thing (and some Ego too...I won't lie).
Now, being older and not into any bulls# $ t anymore, the things I did in the past in a relationship, I can say I wouldn't be as inclined. Will I possibly lose out? Maybe, but that's a risk I'm willing to take in order to ensure my own self preservation and in some respects, sanity! As VB said, relationships are a LOT of work, and I know there are those who will opine that relationships should just "flow and be" in reality, they take work. Even if you two get along swimmingly, there is still work to put in. I know my short comings better than anyone, best believe that, so I have no delusions of unicorns dancing around and pixie faeries sprinkling love dust everyday.

Posted by janettam
sorry i didn't meant to insult the taurus on this forum.

Speak your mind girlfriend, I am NOT mad atcha'...there is a lot of truth in what you said, so I can dig it!

Posted by janettam
i just don't like people who grow dependent on someone and lose their sense of self and forget to put themselves first.

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Word, word, and MF*ing WORD! I know for those parents out there, it's easier said than done not to lose their sense of self and put themselves first, because (obviously) they have this little life they are taking care of and putting first; HOWEVER, in relationships, damn straight you should be thinking about yourself first, because at the end of the day --- that's ALL you've got is yourself, no matter how much someone may protest they love you so much.
You are young janettam, but don't lose that sense of self -- it will be hard at times, but it's good to always know who YOU are.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YES. When you're in, you're in, simple as that. I hop in with both feet, and like a tree the roots are deep into the ground. Solid, strong. None of it. We are a united front. Arms locked, hands joined and howling in the winds of adversity. This is how I see relationship. It is the bedrock, the foundation. Partner strong, my anchor. The one I look too, and up AT. Respect, giving, sharing, needing, wanting. I'm layering what I expect/need in a man, but as I expect this..I also give it back. With every scintilla of my being. No fly by night, welp this sucks I'm gonna bolt baby, I'm in it for the gotdamned long haul. Rec'o'nize. You don't just give that a kick to the curb. Of course one falls in love. Of course everything has a shine to it that it's not had before. But it's intertwined with strength to go the distance, the real belief that there will be low times. Most definitely high ones, but dayyyyuuuumn. You really can and do dig deep and scrape the barrel for every option available to you before you fold up shop. And hell to the YES my WHOLE ASS is in that, every step of the way!

I'm not insulted a bit janettam, just giving you viewpoints. Please DO speak your mind here, and freely. 🙂

LOL One thing Taurus deeply appreciates, and fully, is flat out honesty. I tend to get a bit passionate about relationship topics..just ask USC, she knows how I am. 😉

Posted by janettam
sorry i didn't meant to insult the taurus on this forum. other signs do this as well just more so i think in earth signs. i just don't like people who grow dependent on someone and lose their sense of self and forget to put themselves first. and i am all for working a relationship out. but you have to know when things aren't going to progress.

I wouldn't necessarily say being dependent on someone when I bore most of the responsibility of both my marriages. VB and USC are correct. We have this instinct in us to not give up and try 150% to make something work before giving up. Do marriage vows mean anything to anyone anymore?

As for losing one's sense of self...have you ever been in a long-term relationship before? Or been married for a long period of time? With your youth, I doubt it. Everyone loses some part of their self, especially in marriage. It's only natural. Marriage is supposed to make you one with your partner. Anyone that's been married before remember lighting the unity candle at their ceremony?

Posted by venusianbull
LOL One thing Taurus deeply appreciates, and fully, is flat out honesty.

Yes, we are mucho Sado Masochist when it comes to brutal honesty (ouch)!

Posted by venusianbull
I tend to get a bit passionate about relationship topics..just ask USC, she knows how I am. 😉

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Ain't that the dayumnnnn truth! LOL! Passion is a good thing...ummm...moving on...

Posted by janettam
ehh i love relationship posts. it brings out my emotional side ahahaha.
but sometimes people put words in my mouth and misconstrue everything. then it turns to an all out world war 3 of verbal abuse. hehehe.
i also forgot to look at the kid aspect. for the betterment of the kids, i encourage parents to work it out. but we all know the divorce rates been mighty high. 😢 so sad.

I am no advocate of people just staying together for the kids...but that's a different discussion for a different day. BUT, people need to do what they feel is right in their hearts - right, wrong, or indifferent. My personal beliefs are just that - mine. I can't be upset if someone disagrees with me.

Whoooooo! Girl, ya know! LOLOL

Nahhhh jane..no verbal abuse, just an honest "wanting to really know" where you're coming from, and I'll rocket launch you my views. I try to avoid putting words in peoples mouths, just want to get down to the meat of a conversation so I can come at it completely. No fear of recrimination, you're amongst critters with thicker hides than you might expect.

Posted by venusianbull
you're amongst critters with thicker hides than you might expect.

*peers back at my hide *

Sorry, had to move my bell off to the side. Hard to be sneaky cow with all that clanging. 😄

LOL!!!!! I love doing that with my children, verbal repartee. En garde!

I didn't have a church ceremony taurusgirl, just a simple union at the court house. With a little boy in my womb and a whole lot of love in my heart. *sigh*

Posted by venusianbull
I didn't have a church ceremony taurusgirl, just a simple union at the court house. With a little boy in my womb and a whole lot of love in my heart. *sigh*

Nothing wrong with that. 🙂

🙂 Nope.

Posted by helpplease
To others it is 🙂

Is what? Wrong?

Flirting, were we discussing flirting? I'll bite. There is a line with flirting. Conversation, warm amongst grown people, fine. Mild normal flirting, also okay. I'm not going anywhere, he's not going anywhere. Goofus knows where the damned good loving is. I know the same. Looking at a woman in my presence? Big whoopedy doo-da. I'll look too. Hell, I might even point it out "Look Baby, is that not one righteous turd cutter?" or snuggle my hand in his and say a woman is beautiful, because she is. Mancakes may have one glorious arse. ( Would be to me anyways, that's the one I latch hold of right regular. ) The arse of all arses; not going to stop me from admiring another one. Why would I expect him to be any different? Would it go anywhere? OH HELL NAW! A LINE. I will..and have done dissuading of the opposite sex in such a scenario. Picture with me if you will, a woman having a conversation. A man will respond to me and make an off color remark or even an outright indecent proposal. I will direct him to ( you guessed rightly ) my man. And tell him in no uncertain terms to talk to my man, because I seriously doubt he'd appreciate it. That's if someone was being an ass, if the complete lack of interest, icy disdain and even disgust weren't enough of a deterrent. I don't see anyone else in that arena. I simply do not.
Touching aside from friendly greeting or even a kiss on the cheek from one close friend to another? Someone could lose some digits.

Posted by helpplease


Yes it is wrong for some, including me. While others can continue to do this carelessly and take it very lightly because to them they think that flirting is not cheating. Well if it wasn't wrong then how come it is the cause of many broken relationships.

Perhaps more like a major misunderstanding between couples.

But then again to me it's foul because flirting is still a step towards cheating its like trying to feel the prey if its interested before eating it. It's not made of pure and friendly intentions. Oftentimes happen when one is involved in a dead relationship and just dont see any way out and is not comfortable to tell thei partners their problems so they look elsewhere whom they can share their feelings of neglect from their partner.

You sure thats not a closed minded narrow perspective on the matter...? "flirting is cheating" Really—

I flirt.. Depending on how much bounce I have in my step on a given day, I might flirt in every single interaction I have with the opposite sex that day.. I'll flirt with the gas station ladys, I'll flirt with the cash register ladys at the grocery store, I'll flirt with all the tellers at my bank... Hell, once when one of the older tellers said she was having a down day I picked a flower outside and brought it back into her and gave her a kiss on the cheek.. lol.. Is that foul to you— Does that mean I'm one step closer to taking a 50+ year old teller home with me... lol hell no.. Some of these women its been a really long time since a guy has greeted them with 'Hey sexy' or 'Morning beautiful' and so on.. I just love how I can with a little bit of flirting completely brighten up a person.. I love doing that.. Does that have any bearing on my loyalty when in a committed relationship? Hell no, anyone who knows me, knows when I'm in, I'm in..
"It's not made of pure and friendly intentions".. Really?? So if I have a GF should I just not interact with other women at all?? Should I keep it drab and business like to every woman, be another body shuffling through the line when I could so easily put a smile on that cashiers face, brighten her day.. lol.. Thats what I should do for fear of getting my loyalty questioned?? You know what? I don't think I could last very long with someone so insecure.. And maybe thats where your 'cause of many broken relationships' lies....

Don't get me wrong, I understand where your coming from. And like VB said theres a line not to be crossed.. I'll not be crossing it.. Even if I get the feeling the other person is taking my flirting as more then just friendly, I'll cut em off yesterday..

I'm just trying to point out that for me.. Flirting is not as black and white as your making it out to be...

Bottom line: I know where I'll always lay my head at the end of the day..

^^^^^ This, allllll of this.^^^^^^ I'll even whip out the Sharpie. For it's also about trust. And knowing that your partner knows not to cross that line. Because you sure won't be. And if their head is screwed on where it needs to be, neither will they.