vircansag1687
@vircansag1687
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WHO FEELS LIKE THEIR WINNING
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I feel tiger blood coursing through my veins YeeAAAHHHHhhh!!!!!!!!!!
he gets no respect from me its better ways to solve problems i think he's being a attention hore and its not gonna last long he may crash and burn he may rise but the route he's going in i pick choice number one he's not an idiot he knows whats he's doing and people are gobbing it up like hotcakes lmao.
its nothing new look how many celebs do this when they stardom starts dying.
i honestly think the dude is an interesting character after i read how he is
a sex fiend and dated all of these porn stars and is obsessed with the 9/11 conspiracy
an attention whore IN THE WORDS OF CHARLIE DUHH he's an actor so obviously he loves
attention but i really felt he did it to SHOW THEM LOOK IM A REGULAR DUDE AT THE END OF
THE DAY WHO HAS PROBLEMS AND I CAN DEAL WITH THEM WITHOUT ALL THE BULLSHIT HELP......you kno people
are guna gobble it up but the dude is IN MY HONEST OPINION IS FUNNY AS HELL......
REPORTER: ARE YOU GUNA APOLOGIZE TO WARNER BROS.—
SHEEN: NO. THEY SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO ME WHILE LICKING MY FEET...LMAOOOOO
WAY TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF DUDE
a sex fiend and dated all of these porn stars and is obsessed with the 9/11 conspiracy
an attention whore IN THE WORDS OF CHARLIE DUHH he's an actor so obviously he loves
attention but i really felt he did it to SHOW THEM LOOK IM A REGULAR DUDE AT THE END OF
THE DAY WHO HAS PROBLEMS AND I CAN DEAL WITH THEM WITHOUT ALL THE BULLSHIT HELP......you kno people
are guna gobble it up but the dude is IN MY HONEST OPINION IS FUNNY AS HELL......
REPORTER: ARE YOU GUNA APOLOGIZE TO WARNER BROS.—
SHEEN: NO. THEY SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO ME WHILE LICKING MY FEET...LMAOOOOO
WAY TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF DUDE
Posted by kstarks2
LOL. Charlie made me have a new found respect for Virgos. He gets my approval. That man is hilarious.
damn starks didnt kno u had a heart the way u talked to me earlier....lmao
Posted by dreamer23
I think he is hilarious as well. BUT I think he is definitely gonna crash and burn - and I have a sick feeling he may not be w/ us for much longer. He is OUT THERE.
I THINK IF ANYTHING DOES HAPPEN TO HIM ITS THE ILLUMINATI FAULT CAUSE HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT THAT
9/11 CONSPIRACY THING AND YOU KNO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CELEBS START TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH THE TRUTH
BUT OVERALL I HOPE HE CAN PULL THROUGH
Posted by vircansag1687Posted by dreamer23
I think he is hilarious as well. BUT I think he is definitely gonna crash and burn - and I have a sick feeling he may not be w/ us for much longer. He is OUT THERE.
I THINK IF ANYTHING DOES HAPPEN TO HIM ITS THE ILLUMINATI FAULT CAUSE HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT THAT
9/11 CONSPIRACY THING AND YOU KNO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CELEBS START TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH THE TRUTH
BUT OVERALL I HOPE HE CAN PULL THROUGH
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true that I love this guy same bday as me if you want to know more about Illuminati check out alex jone and mark dice. Look at what alex did on the view getting the truth out there.
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.click to expand
Do you really think he stopped thinking? Maybe it's the drugs? Iono.
On another note, any man can sleep with tons of women but I think his Sag moon def. helps to influence his hearty sexual appetite. 😉
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.
Do you really think he stopped thinking? Maybe it's the drugs? Iono.
On another note, any man can sleep with tons of women but I think his Sag moon def. helps to influence his hearty sexual appetite. 😉click to expand
its not bc he has sag moon or scopio mars he is a virgo man with money you add that together and you have a sex maniac
Posted by virgokingPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.
Do you really think he stopped thinking? Maybe it's the drugs? Iono.
On another note, any man can sleep with tons of women but I think his Sag moon def. helps to influence his hearty sexual appetite. 😉
its not bc he has sag moon or scopio mars he is a virgo man with money you add that together and you have a sex maniacclick to expand
HAHA YOU ALREADY KNO......
It's the cocaine really. Virgo or not... cocaine is a helluva drug. lol
Seriously though, no matter how hilarious Charlie is right now... I feel very bad for his kids.
Posted by virgokingPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.
Do you really think he stopped thinking? Maybe it's the drugs? Iono.
On another note, any man can sleep with tons of women but I think his Sag moon def. helps to influence his hearty sexual appetite. 😉
its not bc he has sag moon or scopio mars he is a virgo man with money you add that together and you have a sex maniacclick to expand
If that was the case, every Virgo man in hollywood with money (and there are plenty more) would behave the same as Charlie. It's a little more complex than just an astrological placement or money, but the moon sign governs our emotional instincts and habits, "the unguarded part of you behind closed doors and the one that comes out during a crisis". A moon in Sag represents someone who is basically a 'risk taker', someone who others see as reckless. They are free thinkers and like to be around a variety of people, sampling and tasting any and everthing on the 'menu', and persons who usually do not conform to the conventions of society.
Continued...
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Continued...
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
you are correct i believe he's acting out on more on his moon sign then his virgo sun and its not balanced.
the question is why is he behaving like this all of a sudden if he felt like this wouldnt he react like this along time ago or is this an act for people to feel sorry for him.
i mean look at all the other virgo celebs who dont really act out like this like beyonce or cameron diaz sean connery keanu reeves im sure there's more lol.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by virgokingPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Hi there vircansag1687,
Welcome to the board.
I honestly think that the man is a genius and knows exactly what he's doing. A little loopy? maybe, but, he's got a mind that works and those who can't see beyond the veil will simply chalk him up to being crazy/losing it because his 'antics' eclipse the brilliance of his mind (for them).
I hope in the end it all turns out well but either way, he's going down with a smile on his face. Also, I think he is a prime example of what can happen to a Virgo who is suddenly ready to break free of the emotional & psychological restraints we build for ourselves/ready to break out of the box that others put us in. Tired of being underestimated and taken for granted. Spazzing? Maybe just a little.
its that sag moon he got makes him unstable it not a good moon sign for a virgo sun imo lol.
i mean virgos are intelligent when virgo stop thinking thats bad because we are know for being logical lol.
that sag moon got him not using his head lmao.
Do you really think he stopped thinking? Maybe it's the drugs? Iono.
On another note, any man can sleep with tons of women but I think his Sag moon def. helps to influence his hearty sexual appetite. 😉
its not bc he has sag moon or scopio mars he is a virgo man with money you add that together and you have a sex maniacclick to expand
If that was the case, every Virgo man in hollywood with money (and there are plenty more) would behave the same as Charlie. It's a little more complex than just an astrological placement or money, but the moon sign governs our emotional instincts and habits, "the unguarded part of you behind closed doors and the one that comes out during a crisis". A moon in Sag represents someone who is basically a 'risk taker', someone who others see as reckless. They are free thinkers and like to be around a variety of people, sampling and tasting any and everthing on the 'menu', and persons who usually do not conform to the conventions of society.
most rich virgos are not in the public eye so you won't know nothing about them think about that
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Continued...
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
you are correct i believe he's acting out on more on his moon sign then his virgo sun and its not balanced.
the question is why is he behaving like this all of a sudden if he felt like this wouldnt he react like this along time ago or is this an act for people to feel sorry for him.
i mean look at all the other virgo celebs who dont really act out like this like beyonce or cameron diaz sean connery keanu reeves im sure there's more lol.click to expand
Well another virgo did do something like Charlie and that was dave chappelle but he was not crazy. They just call him crazy because he wouldn't play the Illuminati game like everyone else dose in Hollywood. I mean look at katt williams another virgo crazy shit go on in Hollywood.
Posted by virgokingPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Continued...
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
you are correct i believe he's acting out on more on his moon sign then his virgo sun and its not balanced.
the question is why is he behaving like this all of a sudden if he felt like this wouldnt he react like this along time ago or is this an act for people to feel sorry for him.
i mean look at all the other virgo celebs who dont really act out like this like beyonce or cameron diaz sean connery keanu reeves im sure there's more lol.
Well another virgo did do something like Charlie and that was dave chappelle but he was not crazy. They just call him crazy because he wouldn't play the Illuminati game like everyone else dose in Hollywood. I mean look at katt williams another virgo crazy shit go on in Hollywood.click to expand
well they know what they are getting into so they have to take the responsibility that comes with it i guess thats y they say virgos dont do good in the public now im seeing that its kinda true lol.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Continued...
If you are looking at him simply as a Virgo man (his sun), then you are not taking into account all of who he is as a person. We are the sum of all of our parts. The fact that he is now 'behaving' this way, makes some believe that he is losing his mind (and that could possibly be the case too) but those of us who study or have a bit more insight into astrology know better. The moon sign is just as important as the sun because it represents who we are from within.
you are correct i believe he's acting out on more on his moon sign then his virgo sun and its not balanced.
the question is why is he behaving like this all of a sudden if he felt like this wouldnt he react like this along time ago or is this an act for people to feel sorry for him.
i mean look at all the other virgo celebs who dont really act out like this like beyonce or cameron diaz sean connery keanu reeves im sure there's more lol.click to expand
Good question and I think this brings us back to looking at him as an individual. It's a combination of the drug use, the events leading up to the blow-up between him and the producers, his astrological placements, and everything else in between. There are no two Virgos who are exactly the same. If him and Keanu or Beyonce, etc, lived similar life style s or had the exact same placements, then maybe we would see similar behavior but even then it probably wouldn't be very likely (and that's the beauty of 'difference' in humanity).
The 'sun' is what brings the broad generalizatons. As Virgo suns we absolutely share various personality traits but the problem comes in when people believe that the sun is all that matters and forget to take the other important aspects of a person's chart into account (along with everything else like experience and life style , etc). on the other hand, we have generalizations for a reason and people go by them everyday whether they want to believe it or not.
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They tell us something about a group of people whether good, bad or indifferent. Some might be surprised to see a Virgo 'acting out' because we are usually referred to as calm, cool and collected (generalization) but what about when you throw in a Sag moon, drugs, and problems on the job? We were so used to the Virgo side of Charlie. The more quiet and reserved side but we are now witnessing that he is clearly more than just a Virgo.
They tell us something about a group of people whether good, bad or indifferent. Some might be surprised to see a Virgo 'acting out' because we are usually referred to as calm, cool and collected (generalization) but what about when you throw in a Sag moon, drugs, and problems on the job? We were so used to the Virgo side of Charlie. The more quiet and reserved side but we are now witnessing that he is clearly more than just a Virgo.
Posted by virgoking
most rich virgos are not in the public eye so you won't know nothing about them think about that
That's true but I highly doubt that if other rich hollywood Virgo types were having 'meltdowns' (for lack of a better word) or were 'winning' like Charlie, it would be kept under wraps. That is usually never the case in hollywood. It almost always plays out like a circus in the media. Just my take.
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by virgoking
most rich virgos are not in the public eye so you won't know nothing about them think about that
That's true but I highly doubt that if other rich hollywood Virgo types were having 'meltdowns' (for lack of a better word) or were 'winning' like Charlie, it would be kept under wraps. That is usually never the case in hollywood. It almost always plays out like a circus in the media. Just my take.click to expand
i mean i havent really seen a beyonce meltdown when she fails she comes back better just like camron diaz or even chris tucker lol when his good friend aka the king of pop slash virgo died lmao u didnt see him have a out burst to get some media attention i read he was deeply sadden that he keep it to himself how he felt his death.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
I believe beyonce does have a scorp moon. Virgos with that moon are very internal. You will not necessarily notice that the virgo is having a meltdown, but on the inside, it's like an atomic bomb has gone off 5 million times and isn't close to stopping.
Posted by Candeh15Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
I believe beyonce does have a scorp moon. Virgos with that moon are very internal. You will not necessarily notice that the virgo is having a meltdown, but on the inside, it's like an atomic bomb has gone off 5 million times and isn't close to stopping.click to expand
lmao i believe you cd with my aspect moon square pluto i think i can be a ticking time bomb lmao.
depending how i'am feeling lol.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
Good breakdown LV.
Having a major placement in earth, I can see how he has been able to stay somewhat grounded throughout all of the mayhem.
Yes, Beyonce does have a Scorp moon and she is pretty fixed. Also, keep in mind that she lives an entirely different life style than that of Charlie...and one that does not include drugs.
I understand what you mean but why does anyone act out? People get mad and fed-up, people get tired, people are on drugs, people want to break out of their stuffy emotional/psychological chains, people experience crisis, etc. The list goes on and on and on. People can interpret Charlie's situation in so many different ways but I think that one thing we can agree on is that he just doesn't give an F anymore...or does he? Or maybe he does give an F but it's just the drugs...what a case study eh?
Posted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by virgoking
most rich virgos are not in the public eye so you won't know nothing about them think about that
That's true but I highly doubt that if other rich hollywood Virgo types were having 'meltdowns' (for lack of a better word) or were 'winning' like Charlie, it would be kept under wraps. That is usually never the case in hollywood. It almost always plays out like a circus in the media. Just my take.
i mean i havent really seen a beyonce meltdown when she fails she comes back better just like camron diaz or even chris tucker lol when his good friend aka the king of pop slash virgo died lmao u didnt see him have a out burst to get some media attention i read he was deeply sadden that he keep it to himself how he felt his death.click to expand
Right but I think that there's still a big difference between a 'Beyonce failure' and what Charlie is going through which to me seems to be in part the culmination of years of wreckless living. Remember that this isn't the first time that we've seen Charlie in the media. One could almost say that it was bound to come to this? Especially since there's been virtually no intervention...at least not of the positive kind. If one constantly turns to drugs, alcohol and whores as an outlet, what do you think could come of that? Don't forget to throw in the Sag moon and everything else in between. Beyonce says she turns to God and family when she's having a rough time and not that someone who turns to God and family couldn't have a situation like Charlies but, I personall would rather have God and fam in my corner than drugs and whores. LOL
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGo
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
Good breakdown LV.
Having a major placement in earth, I can see how he has been able to stay somewhat grounded throughout all of the mayhem.
Yes, Beyonce does have a Scorp moon and she is pretty fixed. Also, keep in mind that she lives an entirely different life style than that of Charlie...and one that does not include drugs.
I understand what you mean but why does anyone act out? People get mad and fed-up, people get tired, people are on drugs, people want to break out of their stuffy emotional/psychological chains, people experience crisis, etc. The list goes on and on and on. People can interpret Charlie's situation in so many different ways but I think that one thing we can agree on is that he just doesn't give an F anymore...or does he? Or maybe he does give an F but it's just the drugs...what a case study eh?
Something for therapists to write about ?click to expand
Absolutely and the therapists would have to classify him under a specific mental illness based on criteria of his actions as according to the DSM-IV, and he'd def. go in for a psych eval. and there may be medication involved or just good ole crisis intervention strategies.
If I had to classify Charlie Sheen with any disorder, I'd bet on a personality disorder, more specifically narcissistic personality disorder. Usually those with that personality disorder tend to have an inflated ego or overt preoccupation with oneself. Charlie's attitude as of now seems to be one where he is beyond the need to even justify his actions or to even consider them. They just are what they are, and as he would say, they are "winning."
Posted by DazedScorp
Hypomania:
The DSM-IV-TR defines a hypomanic episode as including, over the course of at least four days, elevated mood plus three of the following symptoms OR irritable mood plus four of the following symptoms:
-pressured speech
-inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
-decreased need for sleep
-flight of ideas or the subjective experience that thoughts are racing
-easy distractibility and attention-deficit (superficially[citation needed] similar to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder)
-increase in psychomotor agitation
-involvement in pleasurable activities that may have a high potential for negative psycho-social or physical consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, reckless driving, or foolish business investments).
This would also be a good one.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
I dunno about meds, I think it's wise to be wary of just popping a pill for whatevs.
You seem knowledgeable enough, so what's your take on Mr.Sheen's psychological profile ?
Agreed. I would never recommend meds. Only as an absolute last resort and I tell everyone to question everything and not to worry about hurting the ego of the psychiatrist or MD, etc, because many times they can do more harm than good. The side effects of these medications can be off the chain and mixed with others, it can can def. create a lethal cocktail.
Well if I had to think off the top of my head, I would say he's got a Personality Disorder like "Narcissistic Personality Disorder". LOL.
But here's the thing (and I've said this before): I believe that astrological sign should be taken into account in the mental health field. I know for fact that many Cancers are classified as having Bi-polar disorder but what if the therapists knew that they were ruled by the moon who waxes and wanes every so minute and makes their moods change...aaaaahhhh,,, but they would just tell me to shut up and that it's all hogwash...are we the enlightened ones?
Here are the criteria for NPD
??React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
??Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals
??Have excessive feelings of self-importance
??Exaggerate achievements and talents
??Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
??Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
??Need constant attention and admiration
??Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy
??Have obsessive self-interest
??Pursue mainly selfish goals
??React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
??Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals
??Have excessive feelings of self-importance
??Exaggerate achievements and talents
??Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
??Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
??Need constant attention and admiration
??Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy
??Have obsessive self-interest
??Pursue mainly selfish goals
Posted by DazedScorp
Hypomania:
The DSM-IV-TR defines a hypomanic episode as including, over the course of at least four days, elevated mood plus three of the following symptoms OR irritable mood plus four of the following symptoms:
-pressured speech
-inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
-decreased need for sleep
-flight of ideas or the subjective experience that thoughts are racing
-easy distractibility and attention-deficit (superficially[citation needed] similar to attention deficit hyperactivity disorder)
-increase in psychomotor agitation
-involvement in pleasurable activities that may have a high potential for negative psycho-social or physical consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, reckless driving, or foolish business investments).
This would be a good one too, Dazed. I also thought about psychosocial and environmental stressors but, nah.
Look at us conducting a case study! Ha!
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxen
Here are the criteria for NPD
??React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation
??Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals
??Have excessive feelings of self-importance
??Exaggerate achievements and talents
??Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love
??Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment
??Need constant attention and admiration
??Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy
??Have obsessive self-interest
??Pursue mainly selfish goals
That's pretty much everyone the surely, to some degree ?
I remember another old poster Beetelguese going over something like this.click to expand
Oh absolutely. See many of these things already live inside of all of us but it becomes a 'disorder' when there is an excessive amount/too little of it. Life is supposed to be about balance.
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by everevolvingepithet
I dunno about meds, I think it's wise to be wary of just popping a pill for whatevs.
You seem knowledgeable enough, so what's your take on Mr.Sheen's psychological profile ?
But here's the thing (and I've said this before): I believe that astrological sign should be taken into account in the mental health field. I know for fact that many Cancers are classified as having Bi-polar disorder but what if the therapists knew that they were ruled by the moon who waxes and wanes every so minute and makes their moods change...aaaaahhhh,,, but they would just tell me to shut up and that it's all hogwash...are we the enlightened ones?
don't want to sound rude or nasty, but that sounds nuts, really.
🙂click to expand
LOL. Ok, no worries. You're not the first or the last. Many people think it's nuts and that's fine.
My thought is that if a mental health professional understood from another angle what makes a person under the sign of Cancer behave the way that they do versus just writing them off as having Bi-polar disorder for moods or behavior that come so natural to them, then astrology could play an important part in better understanding and individual's emotional/psychological make-up, but, it's all hogwash.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by LeGendary ViRGo
hmmmmmmmmm i like where this is going lol.
if will look it in a astro sense the sag is mutable that being a moon placement it means a person with be unstable unless they have some strong earth placements to ground them the sun is the ego and in astrology the sun is stronger in fire or air because its a masculine energy so people who have earth and water signs the ego wont be strong and if that person had a fire moon or air it might be dominant depending on other factors in a chart lol.
beyonce has a scorp moon if im not mistaking that would explain y she's fixed in her ways.
i mean they all live in hollywood right but y is he acting out tho knowing the rules of the game cant have it both ways when it comes to being a star then rebel ur gonna crash and burn that's just my viewpoint lol.
Good breakdown LV.
Having a major placement in earth, I can see how he has been able to stay somewhat grounded throughout all of the mayhem.
Yes, Beyonce does have a Scorp moon and she is pretty fixed. Also, keep in mind that she lives an entirely different life style than that of Charlie...and one that does not include drugs.
I understand what you mean but why does anyone act out? People get mad and fed-up, people get tired, people are on drugs, people want to break out of their stuffy emotional/psychological chains, people experience crisis, etc. The list goes on and on and on. People can interpret Charlie's situation in so many different ways but I think that one thing we can agree on is that he just doesn't give an F anymore...or does he? Or maybe he does give an F but it's just the drugs...what a case study eh?click to expand
thanks i mean i know we get fed up but i mean but does blaming the whole world solve the issues no it does not if hes crying for help this is the wrong way to go about it i dont care about sheen but its a interesting topic nonetheless lol.
im not wasting my time trying to understand someone i dont know lol.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
HOw can you have too little of those points made to class it as a disorder ?
According to the mental health field, if a person has very little of something or too much of something, that makes them unbalanced. If you take a sociopath for instance, the person is characterized as having lack of empathy or very detached from his/her emotions. The rule is that humans need a healthy dose of empathy/to be connected to their emotions for various reasons. Sociopathic folks like Joran Van Der Sloot who kill people and show no empathy whatsover are considered unbalanced because the shit is just not normal.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
"My thought is that if a mental health professional understood from another angle what makes a person under the sign of Cancer behave the way that they do versus just writing them off as having Bi-polar disorder for moods or behavior that come so natural to them, then astrology could play an important part in better understanding and individual's emotional/psychological make-up, but, it's all hogwash."
The astrology or the psychology ?
I think there's bs in both
The astrology that is. If astrology were mentioned, most in the MHF would look at you like you had 2 noses.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Yet you don't question it's usefulness in decoding a person, even if it's partially ?
i do i think astrology is very useful notice how comfortable u feel when u know a persons sign you know what to expect from them.
i mean i have three virgo friends and i know how they behave.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
Yet you don't question it's usefulness in decoding a person, even if it's partially ?
Well I would never go on astrology just alone that's why I say an individual in and of itself is so complex that you can't just base their style or behavior simply on one thing like astrology. That's where people go wrong. I do think that it can help to give us a better idea of a person though. That's all. What about how a person was nurtured/who their models were?
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by LeGendary ViRGoPosted by everevolvingepithet
Yet you don't question it's usefulness in decoding a person, even if it's partially ?
i do i think astrology is very useful notice how comfortable u feel when u know a persons sign you know what to expect from them.
i mean i have three virgo friends and i know how they behave.
I've only met one Leo dude who wasn't a douche. real talk 🙂
The other dudes were annoyingly grating dickheads before the Leo part was confirmed seriously, haha
ooowwwwww 🙂click to expand
lollllllllllllllll.
i feel u its funny because i can point out if someone is a virgo sun or not and usually im right owwwwwwwww lmao.
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by everevolvingepithet
HOw can you have too little of those points made to class it as a disorder ?
According to the mental health field, if a person has very little of something or too much of something, that makes them unbalanced. If you take a sociopath for instance, the person is characterized as having lack of empathy or very detached from his/her emotions. The rule is that humans need a healthy dose of empathy/to be connected to their emotions for various reasons. Sociopathic folks like Joran Van Der Sloot who kill people and show no empathy whatsover are considered unbalanced because the shit is just not normal.
That sounds like an extreme example.
So to counter it, I'll say I'm more empathic than most, but I understand jealousy and the nature of some people aswell as manipulative types to know to dole it out to only people who truly need a hug etc.
If I didn't let this be known, I could easily be but in to the wrong box.
Something I've noticed with everyone who I've known in the flesh who've studied Psyche, they love their 'boxes' for people, and woe betide anyone who picks up on it hehe !
That and actions totally like NPD if you pick up on their 'case study' attitude to people, especially the first too points and 'unreasonable expectations'
No-one on here, just real life observations.
What are your thoughts on this, VV ?
Good observation ?click to expand
Yeah well I guess that was a bit of an extreme example and I would rather have someone who had a double dose of empathy than none at all, but it depends on what it is. If someone had an over-inflated ego versus no ego at all...like wth is that? Everyone has an ego...no? It depends on what it is and in this case, having no empathy or lack thereof is a dangerous, unbalanced thing.
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by everevolvingepithet
HOw can you have too little of those points made to class it as a disorder ?
According to the mental health field, if a person has very little of something or too much of something, that makes them unbalanced. If you take a sociopath for instance, the person is characterized as having lack of empathy or very detached from his/her emotions. The rule is that humans need a healthy dose of empathy/to be connected to their emotions for various reasons. Sociopathic folks like Joran Van Der Sloot who kill people and show no empathy whatsover are considered unbalanced because the shit is just not normal.
That sounds like an extreme example.
So to counter it, I'll say I'm more empathic than most, but I understand jealousy and the nature of some people aswell as manipulative types to know to dole it out to only people who truly need a hug etc.
If I didn't let this be known, I could easily be but in to the wrong box.
Something I've noticed with everyone who I've known in the flesh who've studied Psyche, they love their 'boxes' for people, and woe betide anyone who picks up on it hehe !
That and actions totally like NPD if you pick up on their 'case study' attitude to people, especially the first too points and 'unreasonable expectations'
No-one on here, just real life observations.
What are your thoughts on this, VV ?
Good observation ?click to expand
Placing others in boxes helps us to feel comfortable, understand differences, put a face/name to illnesses (hence the DSM), quells our fears of the unknown, etc. We feel more in control when we can say "you go here and you go there". Much of life is about cataloguing, categorizing and classifying. Once that's done, we know how to move, strategize, help, conquer, bridge, etc.
Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by VirgoVixxxenPosted by everevolvingepithet
Yet you don't question it's usefulness in decoding a person, even if it's partially ?
Well I would never go on astrology just alone that's why I say an individual in and of itself is so complex that you can't just base their style or behavior simply on one thing like astrology. That's where people go wrong. I do think that it can help to give us a better idea of a person though. That's all. What about how a person was nurtured/who their models were?
I dunno, I think there would be too much of an element of the power of suggestion, which I'd hope had little or no place in this context when dealing with someone's mental state.
Maybe with a different subject (not astro) in the reconditioning/rehabilitation but not in an assessment.
But I know bugger all about psychology, and am wary of it tbh.click to expand
Aaaaahhhh...clever one you! One needs a clean slate. No preconcieved ideas or perceptions. Now we're treading on dangerous ground. So because Jane criticizes the most in the family unit it must be because she's a Virgo! LOL. It's tricky EEE, and I guess that's what makes it so fascinating.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
What about the concept of 'ego death' ?
You mentioned allusions to God as saviour generally speaking in your earlier post, so how would this fit in with your approach ?
Interesting...the concept of 'ego death' is something to what we would refer to in the church as "dying to self" which is basically living for God vs. living for ourselves. Doing his will and his purpose. Now I don't have a problem with that (actually hope to get there someday) but the question should be for who or for what purpose is your ego dying to?
Fit God into the mental health approach? Well generally the rule is that the mental health professional should not include spirituality unless the client/patient brings it up first...is that what you were referring to? The key is that it's all about the client and not you so even if you think that something might be a good idea or be helpful, if it falls sort of too much out of line with your basic training/the rules of your field, it's best to leave it unless the client incorporates it themselves. If you are unsure of something, you can always ask a more seasoned professional or your supervisor.
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