What's something that took

time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?

almost like it was beat out of you?

(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)

Anything in your 9th house?

Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Just existing. I have so many stories and darkness that plagued my personal existence. The fact I'm not a complete psychopath is kind of crazy. When it comes to darkness I kind of thrive on the aspect. I'll watch like 20 videos of people that went completely crazy, and did the most horrible things imaginable to people that trusted them. I don't relate with killers, or evil people, I actually relate more with the detectives that interrogate the killer. I love that stuff, and sometimes hear so many horror stories I wonder how I can keep listing. So for me its accepting human darkness. I 100% feel they should be locked up, or even murdered depending on the crime. The stories and absolute crazy I still oddly find fascinating. In another life I'd love to be a detective that gets pure evil killers to admit to their crimes.

Posted by Soul
Just existing. I have so many stories and darkness that plagued my personal existence. The fact I'm not a complete psychopath is kind of crazy. When it comes to darkness I kind of thrive on the aspect. I'll watch like 20 videos of people that went completely crazy, and did the most horrible things imaginable to people that trusted them. I don't relate with killers, or evil people, I actually relate more with the detectives that interrogate the killer. I love that stuff, and sometimes hear so many horror stories I wonder how I can keep listing. So for me its accepting human darkness. I 100% feel they should be locked up, or even murdered depending on the crime. The stories and absolute crazy I still oddly find fascinating. In another life I'd love to be a detective that gets pure evil killers to admit to their crimes.

i remember you mentioning you've watched a lot of crazy, awful things. don't really personally have the stomach for that but sometimes i find a lot of awfulness when i dig up on people who've gone nuts like the how and why of it.

That older people can actually be right about moving with more caution in the world when it comes to people 😛

When I was younger I was more like 'be adventurous! give complete trust to people right away and deal with consequences later' when making friends or lovers, without knowing them well.

But turns out there are really bad people out there. You have to be careful.

I have Uranus and Jupiter in Sag in 6th house. Me being adventurous could be myvaries moon 😝

Also I used to walk out at night all the time thinking what could happen? despite my mom's warnings until I almost got molested, and some of my friends started telling more stories about encountering psychos at night outside too.

Oh and my 9th house is empty. What does it symbolize?

And how about you?

Did u played all fallout nv dlcs?

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?


almost like it was beat out of you?

(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)


Anything in your 9th house?

Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Digital banking

Took years for me to trust enough to use it. Almost to the point where the advisor from the bank I was with, got a slightly bit upset that I didn't trust their online security.

Jupiter in Gemini

Uranus in Cap

Empty 9th house in Aqua

I think...

Posted by StardustRevolut10n
Did u played all fallout nv dlcs?

only honest hearts

old world blues and dead money seem to be split among fans but i've yet to try them

lonesome road comes off pretty mid

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by StardustRevolut10n
Did u played all fallout nv dlcs?

only honest hearts


old world blues and dead money seem to be split among fans but i've yet to try them


lonesome road comes off pretty mid

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I only played the base game n i regret

Lonesome road the ambience seems really cool, kinda like fo3 idk

Dead money never caught my attention

Posted by Polyannanana
And how about you?

just how often people who get together no matter how maybe 'odd'/uneven' (maybe in looks or personality) often are cut from the same cloth coz water seeks its own level.

Posted by StardustRevolut10n

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by StardustRevolut10n
Did u played all fallout nv dlcs?

only honest hearts

old world blues and dead money seem to be split among fans but i've yet to try them

lonesome road comes off pretty mid
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I only played the base game n i regret

Lonesome road the ambience seems really cool, kinda like fo3 idk

Dead money never caught my attention

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tbh i'm still obsessed with the base game like i'd prob keep playing this until i get arthritis someday

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?

almost like it was beat out of you?
(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)

Anything in your 9th house?
Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Digital banking


Took years for me to trust enough to use it. Almost to the point where the advisor from the bank I was with, got a slightly bit upset that I didn't trust their online security.


Jupiter in Gemini

Uranus in Cap

Empty 9th house in Aqua


I think...

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are you this way only with financial matters?

or are you usually hesitant when it comes to embracing other apps (for other functions)?

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by StardustRevolut10n

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by StardustRevolut10n
Did u played all fallout nv dlcs?

only honest hearts

old world blues and dead money seem to be split among fans but i've yet to try them

lonesome road comes off pretty mid
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I only played the base game n i regret
Lonesome road the ambience seems really cool, kinda like fo3 idk
Dead money never caught my attention
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tbh i'm still obsessed with the base game like i'd prob keep playing this until i get arthritis someday

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I always played unmoded too

Did you ever saw that dlc mod the frontier? Lmaaao the fiasco that was

I cant get over this era of bethesda games oblivion/fo3/fallout nv/skyrim dont matter how many new games release

Im stuck there like Todd is the demiurge 🦁🐍

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?

almost like it was beat out of you?
(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)

Anything in your 9th house?
Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Digital banking

Took years for me to trust enough to use it. Almost to the point where the advisor from the bank I was with, got a slightly bit upset that I didn't trust their online security.

Jupiter in Gemini
Uranus in Cap
Empty 9th house in Aqua

I think...
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are you this way only with financial matters?


or are you usually hesitant when it comes to embracing other apps (for other functions)?

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I'd say anything involving sensitive personal information in general...

That being sore and not slighty injured doesn't matter at all and I've gotta harden up.

I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...

Posted by Polyannanana
That older people can actually be right about moving with more caution in the world when it comes to people 😛


When I was younger I was more like 'be adventurous! give complete trust to people right away and deal with consequences later' when making friends or lovers, without knowing them well.


But turns out there are really bad people out there. You have to be careful.


I have Uranus and Jupiter in Sag in 6th house. Me being adventurous could be myvaries moon 😝


Also I used to walk out at night all the time thinking what could happen? despite my mom's warnings until I almost got molested, and some of my friends started telling more stories about encountering psychos at night outside too.

There's a saying in Chinese of something like "If you don't listen to your elders, you'll immediately regret it"...

Not saying it's always true 😛 but there are some wisdoms...

I was absolutely like this before...too trusting and all...

Now I picked up my mom's worrying.

Posted by Soul
Just existing. I have so many stories and darkness that plagued my personal existence. The fact I'm not a complete psychopath is kind of crazy. When it comes to darkness I kind of thrive on the aspect. I'll watch like 20 videos of people that went completely crazy, and did the most horrible things imaginable to people that trusted them. I don't relate with killers, or evil people, I actually relate more with the detectives that interrogate the killer. I love that stuff, and sometimes hear so many horror stories I wonder how I can keep listing. So for me its accepting human darkness. I 100% feel they should be locked up, or even murdered depending on the crime. The stories and absolute crazy I still oddly find fascinating. In another life I'd love to be a detective that gets pure evil killers to admit to their crimes.

Do you accept human darkness now?

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...

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Yes of course it does but it's freedom within yourself. Freedom to commit, freedom to reject. It's not being free of but being free to

Like you're free to use my post as an excuse to tag your dxp crushes 😄

I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...

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Hmmm, theres a lot of layers of freedom in the city that you can't have in the country. Buy what you want and need, the nightlife.

Posted by Wizardzzz

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...
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Yes of course it does but it's freedom within yourself. Freedom to commit, freedom to reject. It's not being free of but being free to

Like you're free to use my post as an excuse to tag your dxp crushes 😄

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I get the whole concept of freedom of choice. But is it freedom though if this freedom of choice is subject to constraints or conditions?

Like in your example 😛...

I was only free to "use your post as an excuse to tag" when...

1) I'm not banned from this site

2) they haven't deleted

3) dxp is working as it should

Posted by Walk_on_by

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...
click to expand

Hmmm, theres a lot of layers of freedom in the city that you can't have in the country. Buy what you want and need, the nightlife.

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Perhaps...though with rising prices these days, it feels less like freedom when almost everything you do in the city requires you to pay a lot of money. Like I almost don't go the mall these days because pretty much anything of enjoyment is so expensive.

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...
click to expand

Yes of course it does but it's freedom within yourself. Freedom to commit, freedom to reject. It's not being free of but being free to
Like you're free to use my post as an excuse to tag your dxp crushes 😄
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I get the whole concept of freedom of choice. But is it freedom though if this freedom of choice is subject to constraints or conditions?


Like in your example 😛...


I was only free to "use your post as an excuse to tag" when...

1) I'm not banned from this site

2) they haven't deleted

3) dxp is working as it should

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So you want freedom with total disregard for the world around you? I think that's called death

Posted by Wizardzzz

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...
click to expand

Yes of course it does but it's freedom within yourself. Freedom to commit, freedom to reject. It's not being free of but being free to
Like you're free to use my post as an excuse to tag your dxp crushes 😄
click to expand

I get the whole concept of freedom of choice. But is it freedom though if this freedom of choice is subject to constraints or conditions?

Like in your example 😛...

I was only free to "use your post as an excuse to tag" when...
1) I'm not banned from this site
2) they haven't deleted
3) dxp is working as it should

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So you want freedom with total disregard for the world around you? I think that's called death

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Me? No.

Freedom is something Canada brags about. I see it almost non existent without constraints and conditions....Almost... So was just looking for others POV.

How important connections and relationships with other people are

How we all have to trust and rely on others to some extent

This is a hard pill to swallow for someone as misanthropic and reclusive as I am and I hate it

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Soul
Just existing. I have so many stories and darkness that plagued my personal existence. The fact I'm not a complete psychopath is kind of crazy. When it comes to darkness I kind of thrive on the aspect. I'll watch like 20 videos of people that went completely crazy, and did the most horrible things imaginable to people that trusted them. I don't relate with killers, or evil people, I actually relate more with the detectives that interrogate the killer. I love that stuff, and sometimes hear so many horror stories I wonder how I can keep listing. So for me its accepting human darkness. I 100% feel they should be locked up, or even murdered depending on the crime. The stories and absolute crazy I still oddly find fascinating. In another life I'd love to be a detective that gets pure evil killers to admit to their crimes.

Do you accept human darkness now?

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I 100% accept it. I also feel it should be locked up and the key thrown away, but I understand the fundamental of human darkness. Like if there is a human that would donate 200 dollars to a kids with cancer hospital there is equally a human that would put their own child in a freezer to hide the body for years until they are finally caught and put away for their crimes. Personality I'd love to live in a perfect world where all humans follow the rules that never do evil acts to the people closest to them. The reality is we truly live in a world surrounded by actual animals, and they all need to be locked up equally.

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.


Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

The right people will recognize you! Quality over quantity... always! ❤️

Saturn retrograde in Cap on the 8th 9th border, and Jupiter retrograde a few degrees later in Aqua in the 9th. If I'm hit over the head with a 2x4 I might start believing something a little bit (Cap energy). Prove it to me beyond a shadow of a doubt! And maybe I'll believe. Or else stand clear!

I worked at things and a few 'miracles' happened. Yeah, the Saints were right we are only a pile of light. I cussed and wept for a couple of hours as my whole world was just slid out from under me. I can't say I didn't work at obtaining this experience though. Ouch! Once you convince a person with Cap energy in the 9th they will accept it and readjust into a higher reality, EVENTUALLY, but it can be hard.

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Walk_on_by

Posted by victoria-sakura

Posted by Wizardzzz
I would say learning that freedom is not being free from everything .

Do you think freedom exists? I think freedom is an elusive concept. Maybe @WarAngel79 or @Walk_on_by has it the closest with camping, hunting, or spending times with animals. But it's definitely not there in city life...
click to expand

Hmmm, theres a lot of layers of freedom in the city that you can't have in the country. Buy what you want and need, the nightlife.
click to expand

Perhaps...though with rising prices these days, it feels less like freedom when almost everything you do in the city requires you to pay a lot of money. Like I almost don't go the mall these days because pretty much anything of enjoyment is so expensive.

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True that, I guess everything is expensive though. I just spent 1500 on new winter camping gear and I still need more stuff. My ute also costs a fair bit to maintain.

Posted by ThatWoman

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

No, it's not like that. Maybe you just feel invisible because they don't show you how you want them to show.

If you feel invisible, that is because people are so busy with their own stuff. I also feel unheard so many times, at some point I came to the realization that the voices inside their head, their blessings, their pain, their...stuff are louder than the voices coming from the outside.


Don't take it personally. I learnt that over time. Well maybe this is my own defense mechanism but yeah


My mercury is in sagittarius, my chiron is gemini.


I inherently know that nobody cares about my problems But I also learnt that I don't need to deal with other people's problems.

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Yeah, I get that people are in their own world, I'm definitely in mines lol. I just find it strange to be physically voided from people's eye sight, like I could be standing in a line or standing a few feet looking at something, and someone would just come stand in front of me as if I wasn't even there. This has happened more times than I can count. Or I can be doing something for my job and someone else gets the recognition for it. (I should note that I'm the only one who does what I do at work.)

Anyways, being invisible is something I've thought of a lot and convinced of according to the op.

Thank you for your insight on the situation. 🙂

Posted by Argus

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

The right people will recognize you! Quality over quantity... always! ❤️

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You are the sweetest! 🤗

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by Argus

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

The right people will recognize you! Quality over quantity... always! ❤️
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You are the sweetest! 🤗

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Better to be discovered than announced! That said, wherever I see you tiptoe around dxp, I always think to myself: “there goes our resident ninja assassin!” And I mean that in the best possible way. 😅 😉

Posted by Argus

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by Argus

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

The right people will recognize you! Quality over quantity... always! ❤️
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You are the sweetest! 🤗
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Better to be discovered than announced! That said, wherever I see you tiptoe around dxp, I always think to myself: “there goes our resident ninja assassin!” And I mean that in the best possible way. 😅

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😂 Thank you! I take that as a compliment.

I'm not gonna say I have fully learned my lesson. But I'm slowly starting to realize that I have to detach like I did when I was younger as my defense mechanism.

I used to be judged about it, so I would try not to do it. But as I get older and need less external reinforcement, I go back to my old ways of withdrawing and detaching. It actually feels really good for my personality type. And now I'm more confident about it, so I feel more at ease.

You don't have to like your family and have their approval. I think that was most important for me.

I see how they traumatized me in my current relationship. I bring a lot of anxiety and tension subconsciously because of pressure of my family in the past.

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.

Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Any 12th house planets? Many people with 12th house planets report a similar experience.

I can't easily forgive and forget even if I want to.

Jupiter 11th, uranus 6th

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.



Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Any 12th house planets? Many people with 12th house planets report a similar experience.

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I have Saturn in the 12th. I found this statement to stand out when I looked it up:

"There may be feelings of loneliness or isolation, either self-imposed or due to external circumstances."

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?

almost like it was beat out of you?

(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)

Anything in your 9th house?

Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Women are trained and brainwashed from birth into accepting the trad wife cult its just now that we are seeing it blatantly. Its dangerous. It keeps women stupid.

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.



Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Any 12th house planets? Many people with 12th house planets report a similar experience.

I have Saturn in the 12th. I found this statement to stand out when I looked it up:

"There may be feelings of loneliness or isolation, either self-imposed or due to external circumstances."

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Does Saturn in the 12th manifest as fears surrounding spiritual experiences in your experience? I have my Sun in the 12th and have delved into this, but now I'm swimming my way back to the shore. I think my lesson has been to appreciate the physical and material realm more.

They also say Saturn is all about structures, morals and the practical/ material realm, yet the 12th house dissolves all that falls into it.

I find a lot of things hard to accept. It’s practically the bane of my existence and reason for my anxieties. I dont really accept them, I just keep waiting and hoping through daydreaming

The only things I don’t have trouble accepting are the things that bring me happiness and death.

Pluto is in my 9th house and I have Uranus and Jupiter in the 12th house

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.



Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Any 12th house planets? Many people with 12th house planets report a similar experience.

I have Saturn in the 12th. I found this statement to stand out when I looked it up:

"There may be feelings of loneliness or isolation, either self-imposed or due to external circumstances."




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Does Saturn in the 12th manifest as fears surrounding spiritual experiences in your experience? I have my Sun in the 12th and have delved into this, but now I'm swimming my way back to the shore. I think my lesson has been to appreciate the physical and material realm more.

They also say Saturn is all about structures, morals and the practical/ material realm, yet the 12th house dissolves all that falls into it.

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Yes Saturn is all about structures, morals, practicality, time, tasks, staying the course and facing reality. I think Saturn is strong enough and grounded enough not to lose itself in the swells of the spiritual world of the 12th house, but to go through with the intention to learn it's inner workings. At least that's been my experience. I've always had a deep curiosity for the profound and the esoteric.

That I've been something of a commitment-phile most of my life.

In the process of working on becoming more commitmentphobic (and doing great)

Posted by Textosmoon

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?



almost like it was beat out of you?

(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)



Anything in your 9th house?

Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Women are trained and brainwashed from birth into accepting the trad wife cult its just now that we are seeing it blatantly. Its dangerous. It keeps women stupid.

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i agree. a man's never a plan. a woman needs education and skills.

Posted by TarvosTrigaranos
My whole entire perspective in life changed when I returned to college to get my Econ degree. Ive always been fascinated with psychology, but never fully understood how they're so intertwined. There is no economy without psychology. Its Macro vs Micro, in layman's terms. The phrase "the path to hell is paved with good intentions" rang so profoundly to me when the entire picture formed, it changed my entire outlook.

Very very few things aren't transactional in life. We're even transactional with ourselves. Just like big business trying to create the next big thing that saves humanity, there's unintended consequences that can offset any progress, sometimes create a whole new problem. Most drug dealers (most not all) sell drugs as a way to pay bills and not users themselves, they sell to people who want an escape, to feel good. We all know what drugs will do.. thats 3 transactions- 1 between the drug dealer and the addict, but then another between the addict and their self (how many people don't try drugs in fear of what they know could happen? Those people didnt see the value in the transaction within themselves), the third is between the drug dealer and themselves and their values/morals (their financial situation is deemed more valuable and the risks worth taking).

Some transactions offer value to all parties, some take advantage of someone, sometime kill off little parts of ourselves as we go. Some with intended consequences that we are aware of... some we have no idea how it will play out until it starts to play out. Its all a stone's ripple in lake.

This plays out in almost everything.

Finding something in life that isn't transactional is rare, so grab ahold of it when you see it.

This is interesting. Definitely a different perspective.

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by Textosmoon

Posted by virgoOPPP
time + lots of XP for you to understand or accept?



almost like it was beat out of you?

(you've put up some considerable resistance to the idea)



Anything in your 9th house?

Where your Jupiter and Uranus at?

Women are trained and brainwashed from birth into accepting the trad wife cult its just now that we are seeing it blatantly. Its dangerous. It keeps women stupid.
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i agree. a man's never a plan. a woman needs education and skills.

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Yeah but also I really love learning. I love learning languages and trying to better myself I really enjoy it .. it makes me feel secure!

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering

Posted by clare

Posted by Beast_Of_Longsuffering
I was born with a cloak of invisibility. It's cool in some situations, but a huge disappointment in situations where I wished I were actually recognized. I mean people don't see me there physically sometimes, or maybe they choose not to...idk.



Aries in the 9th house. I also have sun, moon, and Mercury in the 9th. (I really like my 9th house placements.)

Any 12th house planets? Many people with 12th house planets report a similar experience.

I have Saturn in the 12th. I found this statement to stand out when I looked it up:

"There may be feelings of loneliness or isolation, either self-imposed or due to external circumstances."




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Does Saturn in the 12th manifest as fears surrounding spiritual experiences in your experience? I have my Sun in the 12th and have delved into this, but now I'm swimming my way back to the shore. I think my lesson has been to appreciate the physical and material realm more.

They also say Saturn is all about structures, morals and the practical/ material realm, yet the 12th house dissolves all that falls into it.

Yes Saturn is all about structures, morals, practicality, time, tasks, staying the course and facing reality. I think Saturn is strong enough and grounded enough not to lose itself in the swells of the spiritual world of the 12th house, but to go through with the intention to learn it's inner workings. At least that's been my experience. I've always had a deep curiosity for the profound and the esoteric.

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May I suggest that it sounds like you have a strong Saturn then, with some trines to it perhaps or with it ruling your Ascendant. Maybe some earth or something very grounding elsewhere. A strong Saturn is one that upholds it's structure in the 12th house.