202 & 63 ..hi ladies...

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hi lady virgo and 202,

well the latest is ....that yesterday when i got home i looked across the street where he lives and noticed he wasnt at home and i waited until 11 oclock to see if he came home yet...
of course he knows this ... i watch is
every move and he watches mine... so i realized this was another planned event... cause yesterday i asked him on the phone if he loved her and of course
he didnt anwser me... that was ok cause
i knew he would be up to a trick to follow the question i had in my head...
so i got up about 3 am and wrote him a letter expressing my feelings about how
i expect him to be as far as respect for my feelings and what kind of man i really want.... so i'am patiently waiting for a response this afternoon
to my letter... i'm sure something is going to happen so tommorow i will have some really juicy news for you gals...
these actions follow what i said about the mind games... always keep a look out for thier games... what he wanted
from being missing was my reaction to it.because i know he checks on me late
at night cause his dog is always around my yard if i peep out.. and i can almost feel his presence...so i kinda feel he wasnt doing anything bad... it was just for attention... and he also has a fear about my ex visiting me so thats why he's always checking...talk about a watched pot never boils... not
true a watched pot does boil... its all a game girls... dont ever be mad at them for this its just thier way...

ya... i think he loves you!!! but... my aquarius always taking me for granted!!

he wants to have sex with me... I'm so sad! Bur i havent lost my virgin to him... maybe he think i'm still a V and know that i love him too tat why he treated me so badly... Ya! he even borrow money from me but never return!!!

hi 202,

thanks for your opinion,but lets talk more in detail about being taken for granted....give me an example...

i dun mind if he never return me money... cos since i gave him i myself knows that i cant get it back... I was so confused cos the way he treated me... actually we break and patch quite a few times already... i feel like giving up him cos i think he is juz toying my feelings... but i really love him!!

cos this year jan... he is trying to avoiding me! Actually i know why cos he had a gf but he didnt tell me til they break already then he told abt it saying that the gal is nuts!!! but he never tell me wat she done!

he is using me!!! cos no one accompany him tat why he asked me to accompany him...(after we broke) although i know it but i tend to keep quiet. den last few months ago i wrote letters telling him tat i dun wan to go out with him anymore, if i did how am i going to forget you? after that i tell him in letter that i like him still... actually i feel tat he knows i like him alot, he likes to pretend...

whenever i ask him do u like me? he think i'm trying to make him laugh or telling a jokes... he never been serious one... now we had together for onli one and a half month... i really dunno how long can we be together... and one things... i felt that he loves her ex gf... cos he always mention something abt her... If an aquarius had broke with his ex gf for three years ago... do they stil love their ex?

he always bring me to the place where he and his gf been there before... i really dunno wat he is trying to do... whenever i asked him do u still love your ex gf? he dun ans me or he will say ok la... not veri love loh... and wat does this mean?? i'm really confused!!!

should i leave him?

yeah i admit thats a little bit for
granted... do you want to have sex with him? usually they are not good listeners
so you night have to take a different
approach like maybe sitting down and expressing it in letter form they love letters....i guess cause they can read
it in thier own aloof time and meditate
on it.tell him what you want and how you really deeply feel about the situation... try not to focus on him loving you so much... try to figure him out first... they are very selfobsorbed people...let him feel he is your main focus in life no matter what he dishes
out to you ...dont get sensitive about it...just say your taking me for granted and i know this... but i still love you and i know deep down your a great guy with loads to offer so...i'm
here no matter what... see what his response is to that comment, he might not say anything...but just watch him and his actions for a while and you will see his way of showing a change...

i got told him all these b4... and i wan to break with him cos of all reason... he dun feel anything yet he still laugh at me saying are u serious abt breaking up? wat should i do? i tried many method to win him but i failed... and after that day i told him he never call me at all after the next day.. but when we tok he treat like nothing happen at all...

pls reply to me... byebyee take care and thanks... msg u tomorow.

im back... r u there?

ok 202, lets say he is using you...
so let him use you ...but at the same time show him your true qualities...
let him see you accept everything...
but keep reminding him of who he really is....that is say it out loud what you wish he could be...let him see you really admire him by saying what he really isnt at the momment, it called
transformation, tranform in his mind
what is there now... to what you want him to be... they are aloof people this really works...try it... trust me...
worship him make him feel like there is
no one on earth with his potential, also
challenge his mind think of things that
he could do to improve his sitution
finacially...express it and make him feel you know he can accomplish anything...there is alot in this for you
i can feel it...cause you are already
in his head just expand it to something different...what he secretly wants...and then you will see a change
once the transforming begins...just remember keep focus on him...not yourself cause the day will come when he will focus only on you...this is a mind game baby....you can do this...

but do u think he love me too?

he dun tell me anything... how am i going to know how he is thinking? he onli bring me to his house for sex... i'm really upset when i think of it.

oh boy how can i say this...its gonna be a secret for a while to him...until
the transformation begins...dont even
complain about it...so what if you only have sex when you go to his house....
have a selfless attitude...dont pressure him about these little things
it will push him a way from you...be
flexable with everthing and anything
even if you see him with someone else
its up to you to bring him closer...by being open minded...remember you are you
and he will see the difference with you than anyone else in his life and gradually he will feel like he can take a chance with you.

63 you know i love ya...but i just have to disagree a little bit.

202 should have more pride in herself and not allow anyone to take advantage of or use her. She is worth far more than that.
As far as sex goes, intimacy is a emotional thing to women and to men it is just a sexual act. It sounds to me that he is not showing her the respect that she deserves. Like 63 said...don't get sensative on him. STand strong and proud. Ladies how old are these guys.....——?

WELL LADY VIRGO I AGREE AS FAR AS PRIDE
GOES BUT ....THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PERSON 202 IS DEALING WITH...ALSO PRIDE
IS A REAL BIG WORD WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE
P-PREVAIL (GAIN MASTERY)
R- REAL
I- INNER
D- DOUBTS
E- ETERNALLY

SO REALLY... 202 ITS HOW BAD YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY...IT DEPENDS IF YOU THINK YOU CAN PULL IT OFF WITHOUT THINKING OF YOURSELF...REALLY ITS DIFFERENT FOR EVERBODY BUT ALL AQUA'S DISPLAY THIS
BEHAVIOR...BUT ITS NOT REALLY INTENTIONAL... THEY CANT HELP IT...
USUALLY THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH LOVE AND HOW IT SHOULD BE DISPLAYED...YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM EVERYTHING....THINK OF THEM AS A CHILD WITH NO UP BRINGING...YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM SLOWLY...BUT IT COMES...IT REALLY
DOES....

The secret to keeping an Aqua is this...

TREAT THEM LIKE A BEST FRIEND!!! And nothing else if you want to keep them around. Look at this way...A best friend that you can make love with (if it gets to that stage.) It doesn't get any better than that does it? And respect their need for space. This is the most important. Smother them and they'll be...G-O-N-E.....GONE!

12 is right. That is exactly how me and my ex were...the best of friends..until he started to feel pressured after 4 years.....Gone...now i am trying to get him back....

12 how do i get him back. he told me that he still loved me the other day...what does that really mean...I am a virgo and have to analyze everything...sorry :-)

It means he REALLY LOVES YOU! An Aqua telling someone tell love them is the hardest thing for them to do. It really comes from their soul. Cuz for an Aqua to say that it means that they are willing to give up their freedom in the near future. An Aqua loves from the heart and the person they say it to will mostly likely have won it for keeps.

My moon is in Acqu so I can totally relate to the characteristics and them as an Acqu (I'm a "sun" Sag though).

I've never been out with one believe it or not and this is supposed to be THE sign for a Sag LOL! But if I'd have to put myself in an Aqua's shoes how would I like to be won back? Hmm what a question. Aquas as well as myself like things off the beaten path. We love to be in crowds, giving opinions, debating with others etc. Some that I know of are into sports (not many though) but all of them love to travel.

You didn't say how old you guys were or where you lived but if you can swing it I would suprise him with a bed and breakfast getaway for the weekend with it culminating having to do with crowds of people. Such as possible booking a weekend in gambling casinos. Since most are nearby to other states (hopefully this is your case? I'm close to the east coast's AC area myself) this can be possible for you? If not try to book a show or play or even a great out of town restaurant that'll require you stay away for the weekend. I really don't think the WHAT you guys do will be that important as much as the effort that went into it.

You have to realize the Aquas are neither sentamentalists nor sensitive when IT COMES TO THEM SHOWING IT!!!! This is the key. We are however both we just don't wear it out on our sleeves but we're smiling inside cuz of the touble the person went thru to create such niceness for us and it's stuff we don't forget we just don't say much if anything. Remember we are detached from out emotions, not dead. Strange, I know but that's just how anyone who has either their sun, moon, venus, or saturn in Aqua will be. There's no getting around it.

Don't worry about keeping your Aqua. If you remember to put yourself "into and feel them" and the way they think and treat them like a friend you'll be fine. Start being pushy, sentimental, sensitive and they'll be gone. These emotions are a no no to talk about and display in front of an Aqua. They're looking for someone as airy as they are. In other words "live and let live" type. And it has to remain that way even if they do marry one another.

The question would be can you yourself LIVE this way with this type of person? Remember we are more than capable of love we are just detached that's all. It up to the other person to know this. It's not that hard to figure out an Aqua.

12 your advice is sooooooo good. You need to write for a column. 63 is also good. I am so nervous. We were best friends for 2 years and we became lovers for 4 years before we broke up. He use to tell me the last year before we broke up that he could not see me out of his life and that he can see us growing old together. Being the virgo that I am that meant that he wanted to marry me. and I wanted to marry him NOW. for him that probably meant in the future but not right now. so I started to press the issue. that was a big mistake. I told him the other night that if i would have known that he felt pressured I would have backed off the subject because he is too precious to lose. by the way I live 2 hours away from AC. We have been apart for 2 years and it has been so hard for me. I hold him up so high on a pedastool that no other man can match him. He is witty, intelligent, cute, and loves me... Although he told me that he loves me and that he wants to take one step at a time I am afraid that he may push away from me again. or that he just told me that so that he wouldn't hurt my feelings. I told him that it is no pressure but I do want him in my life. 12 I know that this man is my spimate. He started to go to church with me, he loves my daughter dearly and my entire family thinks that he is the greatest. (he is) The other night he told me to call him on Thursday so that we can go out on friday. Well i did and he hasnt called me back yet. I feel like I want to cry. I poured my heart out to him the other night. You see, we use to play games alot. talk about who we are dating as if we did not need each other . We also hid our feelings for one another for 2 years. I could not take it anymore and I just let it all out and did not worry about the consequences. I asked him was he scared and he said no. He said that getting in a relationship left a bad taste in his mouth. (after me he dated 2 other times but it did not work out...thank God) He told me that the first 18 months after our breakup was so hard for him and I asked him than why aren't we together...I am afraid that if I plan a weekend getaway that it might be too much too fast.... He is my love, my joy, my everything and I hope that I am his...do you think. Everyone is telling me that once i win him back than he would marry me..but you know what? I don't care about that right now..i just want him. I am 33 and he is 30

Can you post both your birthdays for me?

Ask him if he'd like to go to AC with you then if you think it would be "to much to soon" of a surprise.

And yes Acqua are notorius for playing "word games". It's like we have to guess what they're ACTUALLY trying to say. Remember they have a hard time with emotions and can never come right out and say what they want to say and hope that the other person will catch on to what they mean. I'm the same way. I think it stems from the possibility of being rejected. In an Acqus eyes if we were to come right out and say what we wanted to say we would be afraid of the possibility of getting hurt or rejected. So instead we put out "word feelers" as I like to call them.

I'm crazy in love with a Cap right now who's Venus is in Acqu. Talk about major word playing games. If it wasn't for the fact that I can literally read his mind (we're actually 2 of a kind) and his body language I would be at a total loss with him as to what he was trying to say. He as well has not called me in a while. Being a cap he gets fearful and runs away. I wouldn't be surprised if your boyfriends Venus, Mars, Moon or Saturn placement wasn't in Cap as well?

Don't panic though about him not calling you back. He will. Just don't pressure him. Remember it has to come from him without any kind of pressure what-so-ever. If there's pressure Acqua will do just the opposite for some reason? I do the same thing as well as my friend! Can anyone out there explain why this is— I for one would love to know. Be patient. Oh and read the above I posted on Acqua.

hi 12 my birthday is sept 15 and his is feb 4. I forgot to mention that we are so connected that we use to read each other thoughts...and still do. for example we were on our way to philly and he was driving fast ..so i was thinking move over to the middle lane. and soon as i thought it he did. so i said why did you move over and he said because you told me too.
another example just recently..we were instant messaging each other and wrote the same thing at the same time. one more example..when we broke up about a few months ago i had a very strong vibe for him so I said out loud "look if you are coming over than come over or get out of my head..well needless to say he came over a few hours later unannounced. what a pleasant surprise