Help please? Aquarious and Pisces or....

Hey guys! I'm an Aqua girl, who dated a Pisces girl for the last 3 1/2 years of my life. We are high school seniors,and have been dating since October 2008 until January 2012.
She broke up with me on the 13th of January. And now she is dating a Sag boy.... They started dating on the 14th.
The break up was sudden, we were talking about college and the future just nights before hand. She left me saying it would never work, I don't keep her happy...

Just curious, do Aqua and Pisc make a better match or Sag and Pisc?

*I'm more focused on what pairing is better, not which gender goes with which please.

Without knowing the rest of the charts, it's like I'm hazarding a guess based on one tiny sliver of information.. a person is much, much more than their Sun Signs.. there's SO much more underneath. Can you post the charts?

But, going on basic Sun Signs...

I've rarely seen Aqua-Pisces work.. however, I've NEVER personally known a Pisces-Sag relationship to work for more than friends. Hang on, let me think. No, can't think of one. GRRRREAT friends, awesome laughs, my BESSSSST friend in the world for almost 25 years is a Sag.. romance impossible, great fiery blasts of insanity impossible.


But, as gentle as I can be.. I have to say, if she's been dating you since she was what? 14, 15 years old?.. well, maybe she's trying out the other side, seeing what fits best, trying to figure out who and what she is and what she wants. I've noticed lot of Pisces girls tend to be bisexual, rather than strictly lesbian.

Posted by Nefer
Without knowing the rest of the charts, it's like I'm hazarding a guess based on one tiny sliver of information.. a person is much, much more than their Sun Signs.. there's SO much more underneath. Can you post the charts?

But, going on basic Sun Signs...

I've rarely seen Aqua-Pisces work.. however, I've NEVER personally known a Pisces-Sag relationship to work for more than friends. Hang on, let me think. No, can't think of one. GRRRREAT friends, awesome laughs, my BESSSSST friend in the world for almost 25 years is a Sag.. romance impossible, great fiery blasts of insanity impossible.


But, as gentle as I can be.. I have to say, if she's been dating you since she was what? 14, 15 years old?.. well, maybe she's trying out the other side, seeing what fits best, trying to figure out who and what she is and what she wants. I've noticed lot of Pisces girls tend to be bisexual, rather than strictly lesbian.

I'm confused on the chart question of yours.

I mean.... I understand the whole "You discover who you are in your late teen years/early twenties"
We both dated guys before we actually dated.
She ended up having a crush on me (which I found out during my freshman year) and I decided to give it a go. She was my best friend before we dated, we've known each other since 6th grade. And this love developed
The whole thing; prom, college, our future, getting married, we even picked out baby names.
We were so excited for college (colleges we both wanted to go too, even if we weren't dating) and just the whole future in our hands.

And suddenly it falls apart.

She wants us to be friends but... I don't know. She doesn't talk to me or even say hi, unless I attempt it first...

Go to http://www.alabe.com/freechart/<BR>
Enter the birth details for anyone you wish to know more about. I'm most interested in yours, hers, and this Sag guy's, so post the results here. Around this place, we're pretty gaga for natal charts haha

Hmm... pisces and aqua works brilliantly or just not that good. Like nefer says it depends on your chart. Both parties would have to adjust to each other to make it work.

As far as pisces and Sag I've never seen a good outcome. The rest of the charts makes a difference though.

Posted by Nefer
Go to http://www.alabe.com/freechart/<BR>
Enter the birth details for anyone you wish to know more about. I'm most interested in yours, hers, and this Sag guy's, so post the results here. Around this place, we're pretty gaga for natal charts haha

Oh! haha, ok I'll post them up right now

Posted by tbird
Hmm... pisces and aqua works brilliantly or just not that good. Like nefer says it depends on your chart. Both parties would have to adjust to each other to make it work.

As far as pisces and Sag I've never seen a good outcome. The rest of the charts makes a difference though.

I'll have to try these charts then... I wish i had seen them sooner, maybe I could've saved us....
Is it bad I still would want to have her bacK?

I didn't know the place.... so I just picked Chicago for all of us

Ok, this is me (aqua)
http://www.alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astrobot.cgi?INPUT1=Samantha&INPUT2=&MONTH=02&DAY=09&YEAR=1994&HOUR=12&MINUTE=00&AMPM=PM&TOWN=Chicago&COUNTRY=USA&STATE=IL&INPUT9=&Submit=Submit

Her (pisces)
http://www.alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astrobot.cgi?INPUT1=Demi&INPUT2=&MONTH=03&DAY=06&YEAR=1994&HOUR=12&MINUTE=00&AMPM=PM&TOWN=Chicago&COUNTRY=USA&STATE=IL&INPUT9=&Submit=Submit<BR>
Him (sag)
http://www.alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astrobot.cgi?INPUT1=Sterlin&INPUT2=&MONTH=12&DAY=06&YEAR=1993&HOUR=12&MINUTE=00&AMPM=PM&TOWN=Chicago&COUNTRY=USA&STATE=IL&INPUT9=&Submit=Submit<BR>

They aren't coming up hun...try cafeastrology. you can copy the charts and paste them.

No it's not bad...hell I want the aqua who said he wants to be friends... now that's bad. lol

Posted by tbird
They aren't coming up hun...try cafeastrology. you can copy the charts and paste them.

No it's not bad...hell I want the aqua who said he wants to be friends... now that's bad. lol

Oh I could just past the results here couldn't I? lol, but I'll try your site too.

I just feel stupid for feeling this way even if she's dating someone else...a osfsodiu

(If you highlight the links and put them into the web browser it works)

Hmm.. nope, the copy & paste on the links doesn't work either. Gives an error :c

Posted by Nefer
Hmm.. nope, the copy & paste on the links doesn't work either. Gives an error :c

darrrn! lemme try again

here's the charts coming from Nefer's suggested website
(I took out the detailed parts but you can put in the info I left at the website if you would like to read the whole thing)

Me (aqua)

Name: Sam
February 9 1994
12:00 PM Time Zone is CST
Chicago, IL

Rising Sign is in 15 Degrees Gemini
Sun is in 20 Degrees Aquarius.
Moon is in 10 Degrees Aquarius.
Mercury is in 07 Degrees Pisces.
Venus is in 26 Degrees Aquarius.
Mars is in 09 Degrees Aquarius.
Jupiter is in 14 Degrees Scorpio.
Saturn is in 01 Degrees Pisces.
Uranus is in 23 Degrees Capricorn.
Neptune is in 21 Degrees Capricorn.
Pluto is in 27 Degrees Scorpio.
N. Node is in 29 Degrees Scorpio.




Her (pisces)

Name: Demi
March 6 1994
12:00 PM Time Zone is CST
Chicago, IL

Rising Sign is in 08 Degrees Cancer
Sun is in 15 Degrees Pisces.
Moon is in 11 Degrees Capricorn.
Mercury is in 22 Degrees Aquarius.
Venus is in 27 Degrees Pisces.
Mars is in 29 Degrees Aquarius.
Jupiter is in 14 Degrees Scorpio.
Saturn is in 04 Degrees Pisces.
Uranus is in 25 Degrees Capricorn.
Neptune is in 22 Degrees Capricorn.
Pluto is in 28 Degrees Scorpio
N. Node is in 26 Degrees Scorpio.



Him (sag)

Name: Sterlin
December 6 1993
12:00 PM Time Zone is CST
Chicago, IL

Rising Sign is in 08 Degrees Pisces
Sun is in 14 Degrees Sagittarius.
Moon is in 15 Degrees Virgo.
Mercury is in 29 Degrees Scorpio.
Venus is in 04 Degrees Sagittarius.
Mars is in 20 Degrees Sagittarius.
Jupiter is in 05 Degrees Scorpio
Saturn is in 24 Degrees Aquarius.
Uranus is in 20 Degrees Capricorn.
Neptune is in 19 Degrees Capricorn.
Pluto is in 26 Degrees Scorpio.
N. Node is in 02 Degrees Sagittarius.

i think pisces r attracted to both, but compatible w/ neither. aquarius and sagittarius r similar in certain areas, so i can c y she was attracted to both of u guys. however, i say who gives a f*ck who's a better match with her or not? u guys have been 2gether for 3+ years, were talking about the future then she up and left u and got w/ someone else immediately the day after?! u should 4get about her b/c clearly she had been pining for this guy while she was you unbeknownst to you. no one dumps someone and gets w/ somone else within a day unless they were playing u. she was talking to him while she was with u, so y bother even thinking about someone like that? n if the sagi is the typical bachelor, player-type that astro describes them to b (n how sagi guys i know r), he'll eventually drop her n get tired of her being too sensitive and emotional like most pisces r.

so yeah, good luck n hopefully u dont waste time wallowing over this one. ur still young n trust me, u'll get w/ more and better girls 😉

Posted by aquarius21
i think pisces r attracted to both, but compatible w/ neither. aquarius and sagittarius r similar in certain areas, so i can c y she was attracted to both of u guys. however, i say who gives a f*ck who's a better match with her or not? u guys have been 2gether for 3+ years, were talking about the future then she up and left u and got w/ someone else immediately the day after?! u should 4get about her b/c clearly she had been pining for this guy while she was you unbeknownst to you. no one dumps someone and gets w/ somone else within a day unless they were playing u. she was talking to him while she was with u, so y bother even thinking about someone like that? n if the sagi is the typical bachelor, player-type that astro describes them to b (n how sagi guys i know r), he'll eventually drop her n get tired of her being too sensitive and emotional like most pisces r.

so yeah, good luck n hopefully u dont waste time wallowing over this one. ur still young n trust me, u'll get w/ more and better girls 😉

C: thanks

That's just the thing now; I'm not sad anymore, I'm extremely pissed off. I feel stupid for believing her. USHNFFIOVUIVDBFTEN
I hate it, all of it. I don;t regret the amazing good times, but it sucks I'm stuck in this ditch, having to see them both EVERYDAY in almost EVERY CLASS and seeing them in our clubs, cuddling and kissing, while she's out having a blast, and he's probably laughing at me.
HE said he's sorry it happened this way.... No he's not. I don't believe it.

I want her happy, yeah, but if they end up marrying.... I think I'll explode. They're going to the same college now.
Maybe I shouldn't care, but I do. She wants things "back to normal" and "not akward" so we can be "best friends again".
.... Our past normal was a romantic relationship.... Back in 8th grade we were best buds, but we are defiantly not the same kids like before. She doesn't talk to me or acknowledge me. So I don't understand. I really don't.

I'll put up the other chart later, i thought i posted it!!
(what's the purpose of charts too?)

aqua21 has a point.

For you and the pisces:
Wow hun all the plants that contributes to relationships (sun, moon, venus, acendent/rising sun) are all sextile meaning side by side. Which means you both can learn a lot from each other but adjustments will have to be made for it to work out in the long run, but for every sign besides mars ((which is how you go after what you want, sex drive, ambition, motivation) which is both aqua.) means you would have to do A LOT of reconfiguring to each other and would cause a lot of problems in the long term. Which I know you like her a lot but really think about this one before you try to get her back.

For pisces and the sag:

rising sun: pisces and cancers get a long famously...for the most part. Both are emotionally based. To me cancers are more so and more manipulative. I would never be with another cancer as more than friends...ever

sun and venus: they will clash. they will want different things

moon: they are compatible, these signs compliment each other.

mars: these signs are harmonious and there will be ease because of this.

So honestly they can work or not work, but I've never seen a pisces and sag work. If she had a earth or air venus it would work so much better because they would ground her and not be so much as a love strucked puppy. But since she has a venus in pisces there is a lot of idealism and unrealistic aspects to love for her. She will most certainly want to tie him around her and sags are like aquas and they cannot stand being tied down and want freedom. This will most def cause a lot of issues and he will most likely leave. But your aqua is in your venus...so I'm kinda wonder if you felt strangled at some point of your realtionship because of her clinginess.

She does have a cap moon so that may contain some of it but she has a ton of water in her chart (7 placements...wow compared to the 3 earth signs-all cap and 2 air signs-all aqua) (and a lot of scorp. She's a really emotionally based person and she feels her emotions with a lot of intensity.

btw she's a second decan pisces meaning: she's self-sacrificing, highly emotional and feels them quite deeply (this is on top of the water placements..holy hell. I feel for her), highly psychic and has great intution.

Hope that helps hun.

Gona cut some of this lol

Posted by tbird
aqua21 has a point.

For you and the pisces:
. Which I know you like her a lot but really think about this one before you try to get her back.

For pisces and the sag:

She will most certainly want to tie him around her and sags are like aquas and they cannot stand being tied down and want freedom. This will most def cause a lot of issues and he will most likely leave. But your aqua is in your venus...so I'm kinda wonder if you felt strangled at some point of your realtionship because of her clinginess.

She does have a cap moon so that may contain some of it but she has a ton of water in her chart (7 placements...wow compared to the 3 earth signs-all cap and 2 air signs-all aqua) (and a lot of scorp. She's a really emotionally based person and she feels her emotions with a lot of intensity.

btw she's a second decan pisces meaning: she's self-sacrificing, highly emotional and feels them quite deeply (this is on top of the water placements..holy hell. I feel for her), highly psychic and has great intution.

Hope that helps hun.

I think I'm still in some short of mild love with her, she still attracts me and I still eye her and pay attention. The thing is.... I wouldn't know how to get her back... she's dating someone else already and their all on eachother. (could be a honeymoon phase or just the fact that it's probably hard to go from being intimate to single... i'm not sure)

She actually texted me happy birthday today, which surprised me.

I've been told that Sag and I have similar humor.

Oddly enough, I loved her for everything. I loved when she was "clingy". I liked holding her. she was never overbearing to the point that I felt I wouldn't be able to move/breath again.

Yes she's very emotional. She doesn't handle emotional/physical pain very well, you can easily tell when she's upset, happy or thinking about something important.
But I liked her for everything. Nothing was bad to me really. I loved her romanticness, how she would right me poems and how we were both into the arts, day dreaming and so on and so forth. She was very, very amazing. Beautiful girl, extremely smart and creative.

How it did help 🙂 thank you so much!!
Now I gota wait... mmm... What do I do?

I wouldn't know how to attract her back.... maybe some pointers? 😆
I don't want to make the wrong choices :/ we're on

i lied, definatly not mild love lol

so sorry this happened to you. it's hard not to take it personally, because on some level it is, but it's moreso about who she is than who you are. take a good long look at what she's done/doing to you and ask yourself if you could ever trust her again with your heart. it's tough and painful, but she is doing you a huge favor by staying away. take some time with yourself and rediscover YOU. then you'll be in better emotional and mental shape for the one you deserve, because she is looking for you too 🙂

i hope your heart finds peace

Posted by muff
so sorry this happened to you. it's hard not to take it personally, because on some level it is, but it's moreso about who she is than who you are. take a good long look at what she's done/doing to you and ask yourself if you could ever trust her again with your heart. it's tough and painful, but she is doing you a huge favor by staying away. take some time with yourself and rediscover YOU. then you'll be in better emotional and mental shape for the one you deserve, because she is looking for you too 🙂

i hope your heart finds peace

Thank you very much C:

In a way, I feel I can trust her, we've been friends since 6th grade, some 7yrs. We told eachother our deepest secrets, things you only tell 1 or 2 people throughout a life time.
My birthday was yesterday, and she sent me a text which was nice.

I just wonder, does she think of me as much as I think of her? Was it a really quick rebound, or a planned thing, or even both?

*darn my over analyzing self* D

Wow how to attract a mermaid...this is a tuffy to answer. It's as tuff as to tell someone how to attract an aqua. Merfolk like aquas are so different from each other meaning usually no two are the same. Some certain aspects are the same but for the most part not identical. Not one tactic would work for merfolk as a whole. Another thing about aquas and merfolk how we are similar is that the mermaid and aqua has to want to be caught (for a lack of a better term) we both have strong wills and know what we do or don't want. We both have this 6th sense about if something will work or won't work. Both pretty much know right up front if we are interested in more with the person or not, usually in seconds. With aquas It's probably more intellictually based, merfolk it's intution based.

Anywho since I don't personally know this mermaid I can't tell you what will or won't work but I can tell you how it is for me. Now the key ingredient for this situation is to know what happened before she left. Meaning her interactions with the guy, if she has been pondering wanting to be with him for sometime or if he's a rebound a throw away...something to keep her mind off of you. Now if the case is when she was with you this guy caught her eye, she was intrigued, dreamed about him, got to know him more personally and wanted him. Then I'm going to say something you don't want to hear...she's gone. She will stay with him through thick or thin cause merfolk LOVE to play the martyer role, we are self sacrificing and her being a 2nd decan this runs very strongly with her. She will fight to keep her relationship going, IF she finds it worthy of such actions.

Now for her to leave your close and long-lasting relationship means she's been keeping something from you. Something she wasn't happy about. Merfolk don't like confortations at all, esp with her being so emotional. We don't let out our emotions...esp regarding unhappiness in relationships. We can be sensitive and for us it's easier to keep it all inside than to release it and let our feelings be shunned/rejected or devalued. She's been detaching from you for sometime and you were not aware of such, but she has been. She might of been her normal self on the outside but inside she's been keeping an emotional distance, think of a shell... an empty shell was there at the end. The real mermaid was plotting and scheming how to get out, quickly, painfully and trying to take the path of least resistance.

We go with the flow and not fight the currents of life. Ok so I know that was hard to hear. I'm sorry. So what you really need to ponder is what on earth could she have been unhappy about. If you don't know she may or may not be comfortable with letting you know where that problem lies. If you do ask her... tread lightly this could become explosive. Just saying.

Now I think that's the first and most important step. Self realization in relationships is truly a magnficent thing. NOT that I'm saying the fault is yours. I don't know at all and I'm surely not judging you. Just saying whatever relationship you're in this is important.

Anywho... she could be the mermaid like me that when we walk away from a relationship we are done. End of story no going back. We can be friends and close but I would never, ever, ever go back there again. Merfolk can forgive but never ever forget our memories are like steel traps. Nothing gets out. I would remember the good times as well as the bad and remember why I left in the first place, which would be my reason for never stepping through that door again.

Now she could be the type of mermaid that could very well easily go back. If she is that type then you being there for her would mean a lot. Keeping in contact is key...outta sight outta mind is a very true statement with merfolk. I can recall plenty of times I was interested in a guy and we talked but when he disappeared and reappeared I didn't even talk to them. I didn't give 2 flippy flops. This has happened EVERY time except for once and guess who, for an aqua. Go fig.

I would say just be there for her as a friend and whenever she needs you...if she calls out for you make sure you're there. There really isn't much more you can do. Don't apply pressure, she's not a gaping wound and this will strangle her and freak her out and she would run. Suffocation and fear of nets figuratively freaks outs merfolk....sounds familiar aqua? lol it should. 🙂 Cont being you and doing your own thing which shouldn't be that hard for you. Cause you being around her everything she turns again will see above freak her the hell out and she will swim away fast and hard.

I hope that helps.

well, reading what you said... I'm thinking she really is gone for good...

I realized I started points and left them incomplete in the first post. My mermaid senses are tingling that you might be pondering these questions.

Now if your wondering if she's so self-sacrificing for a relationship why did she let go of ours so easily? That again applies to the reason why she left. What made her so unhappy. She kept her thoughts to herself and hoped that the problem would be realized and fixed on it's on. Yes pisces are so demented that we think you should be able to read our minds. Yes I know this is idiotic but tis the mind of merfolk. Once she realized this miracle patch wasn't going to be applied she started to detach. Once merfolk wake from our love stupor and realize this isn't the way our dream world planned. We detach and swim away.

If the guy IS a throw away/rebound the reason for her doing this straight after or so closes to the end of your relationship applies to the path of least resistance thing I was talking about. She prob thinks that if she was single you may fight for her and mermaids HATE saying no. God we hate saying that, as we get older this becomes easier but truly we still despise saying that because we feel that we are dissapointing the person and we CAN and DO feel that in our core. It pains us to no end. I cannot tell you how many times that my ex and I was on the brink I told him I was done and he begged for me to stay and seeing that look in his eyes I just couldn't bring myself to say no, it's over because I knew it would of hurt him and that I would hurt. When our partner cries we cry. Yes we are that empathetic. It's a blessing and curse.

Her going quickly to a guy will easily diffuse the above situation. From what I've seen and read aquas silently sigh and try to figure it out, take it as a lesson of learning and move on. So for her she wouldn't have to deal with telling you no and feeling that pain. Don't get merfolk twisted we are conniving, usually not maliciously so (some can be) but it's more out of self-preservation or getting we want so maybe that's dubious *shrugs shoulders*. I think not. I just take it as we are great tacticians. We know what we can and cannot handle, we do a lot of thinking and plotting, esp to get what we want. Ooops did I just spill a merfolk secret? Shh, I didn't say anything. lol Seriously we are. While she was detaching she was plotting, without a doubt.

You never know...merfolks again are like aquas...both are entirely mysterious. I say cont. being your lovely aqua self. Things could work out to your favor or it could not. That whole if you love something set them free thing.

Destiny is a fickled bitch and if something is meant to happen she has her way of making it happen, regardless if you think it's for the better or worse. She could be very well making a path to you and your next love or making you two grow stronger without each other to deal with the strifes that will come if/when you are together. It usually doesn't make sense or seems cruel when things like this happen but you will look back in time and have an ah-ha moment.

I have this mind thought telling me "She obviously doesn't care, if she can date so fast, why bother? This guy has had a crush on her for 2 years now. He's not going to let her go that easily. She seems to be extremely happy with him too. Their going to college together now. The last time she talked to you as a friend was a week after the break up, everything else is professional with school projects. The 5th we hung out for an hour or two getting food and stopping at a store. We talked like before minus the romance. Being goofballs and chuckling. The next day, monday, it's back to no talking... why? Not even a Hi unless I bring it up. Was I really that bad? Did I really make her not happy and make her miserable, even though at the end of the day she claimed she loved me and couldn't wait for our future? Maybe I'm a fool to even think of another chance. She will never want one again. I was a failure that would rather be left behind"

Then another part, maybe my heart or something, I don't know (lol) says: "Maybe she just needed a break. Keep holding onto this glimmer of hope. She once said she would never leave, and it happened. Maybe we can get together again too. Those dreams we had, of prom, college, apartments, the future, babies, they can't all be gone can they? I catch her staring at me... but maybe its nothing. Keep that hope, maybe it'll help you"

Then I go back and forth. Over analyzing everything and keeping myself up with thoughts. "She said she wants me in her life." "Now she says friendship doesn't matter to her anymore" "She texted me happy birthday, but maybe that was just out of being nice" " She seems happy... that's good"

People are telling me to give up, while others are saying to be friends. Me being stubborn like I am, say no, I won't give up, but then I question if friendship will even work. I try with no response.

Maybe she needs space completely.

OMG first of all you're not a failure. If a relationship ends no one is a failure it just didn't work out.

Hmm.... well merfolk do the hot/cold thing as well... esp regarding friendships. Now if you know it will hurt too much to be friends with her then let it go. Being friends you will honestly at one point of time interact with them two together. Would that be too much for you to bear? Would it crush you? If so then really keep your distance. I know how I feel about the aqua I've been talking to. We have both declared to be friends but I don't think I could truly see him be affectionate with another person. I wouldn't show it of course but it would get to me.

With the guy I dunno she could be using him or she could honestly like him. Merfolk are so hard, so confusing. It's strang because I see aquas that way so I find it striking that aquas think the same of us. Being a mermaid I don't even realize the confusing shite that I do which could very well end up with aquas pulling back since you guys like mysteries but don't really don't like unknowns with relationships...too many variables I suppose. If I'm incorrect please have me stand corrected.

Her saying friendship doesn't matter to her anymore but her doing things to keep the friendship alive is very perplexing. Merfolk are full of paradox's with our core this is whom we are think of our symbol two fishes swimming in different directions. Her actions could be read it two different ways. I've seen this reply many times and it has been used towards me and I usually have the response of yeah okay but that's not really helpful but it is if you think about it and truly try to apply it. Don't worry about her motives/reasons for doing things and if she wants you back or not. This time should be Sam's time. This is your time hun. Fudge her and worry about Sam, rebuild Sam. Once you get over her completely even if she does want to have your relationship back the rebuilt Sam might not even want her. She defintely could of done things better... a whole hell of a lot better. Nothing is wrong with you hun, so don't even apply that logic of betting yourself up or saying your not good enough. That's bullbutter, tearing yourself down is not the answer. Rebuilding is where it's at hun. It's the wave of the future. Your future not hers. If she's in it so be it, if not so be it. But no matter what Sam will be strong and happy. That's what's important, esp right now.

My advise to you is to rebuild, forget about her, work on you. Once you have been rebuilt and recognize how truly wonderful you are and that you're a great catch for anyone then you can sit and ponder if you truly want to pursue a friendship with her or if you want to tell her to kiss your left cheek cause that's all her lips can do for you, cause the words that come out her mouth ain't worth a dime.

It sounds so trite I know, I know but it's so freaking true.

Lol. It is true. No lie. C;
Hey, they say you can't love someone else without being able to love yourself right? Well I'll try just that.
I noticed I changed from when we first started to now, and honestly, I really don't like the "now" me. I feel weak and stupid, though maybe that's from the whole thing going on inside my mind.
At the same time, I know there are some bad habits I have to get rid of, the pessimism and the over thinking. That's just going to be a down fall for me. And I don't need anymore haha.
So I will focus on me. I'm not one that needs a relationship to be happy; I'm independent and hardworking for pete's sake!!
What am I doing to myself?! I'm just ruining the mellow strong girl I was! gah!

Ohhh I'm gona dig myself out of this hole and fill it in with my regrets and doubts, and just let it be, forever!

I feel weird talking for Aqua's as a whole, so I'll talk about my pov.
Mysterious are fun, they keep me thinking, and I'm always curious.
Unknowns with relationships... That depends. Her not telling me why something bothered her or why she got jealous of other people (sometimes people who didn't even do anything to me, but to her) isn't something I like. I would want her as comfortable as possible and try to fix the wrongs. Otherwise I'm set, and I could read her in a way, by her body language and tone of voice, word choice etc.

Well the over analyzing I don't think would ever go away. That's the nature of aquas and it serves you guys well. I don't know the underlying reason for so, but again not to sound like a repeating record but merfolk do this as well. We over think things as well. We do this more for self preservation. We imagine different scenerios most bleek that way we can guard ourselves. If things go sour we can be like well I knew that was going to happen so our hearts are hardened. Things that sideswipe us just kills us. A thousand knives to the heart, dude.

The only bad side to that is that while you're over analyzing opportunties can and may very well pass you by. Trust me I know. This has happened to me on numerous occasions. It comes off as procrastination but it isn't we are just trying to make an informed decision.

Why yes you are dear, your independent, strong, hardworking and you don't need a relationship to be fulfilled because you are drumroll please an aqua!

You don't have to fill the hole with regrets and doubts just lessons learned.

Aquas are good at reading people. Oh I can answer the question of jealously. She's a mermaid. Bahaha but it's so true. She doesn't have taurus in her chart like muah so she's not possessive, just jealous. Could be various factors but yeah we can def get that way. I don't know the situation so I can't speak of why or why she possibly was that way but yes, we are.

You can rebuild, you will get stronger. I'm sure of it hun. This isn't a possibility this is a definite.

Seems aqua's and fishies have some major similarities :O

On the over analyzing note, yeah, I feel major issues going by me right now. College searching and the such. Just enjoying the time I have left

I am an Aqua!! *superhero pose*

The jealousy... Mm... It was usually when other girls/guys gave me compliments or we would play games in the Drama department like "Honey I Love You", which at times can get suggestive, and well, I always got targeted, so she would get upset.

I feel myself getting stronger everyday. C:
We are actually gona talk tonight, she wants me to tell her anything I want, or need too. SOOO.... I'm a bit freaking. Not sure if I should say I want another chance, if she wants one etc. Maybe just how I feel, or some closure or something. The wording is going to make the difference though

Yeah we actually do. I was suprised by this when I started my research.

I can understand that...that's a tough decision that impacts your future largely plus this time only happens once in your life so soak it up. Don't take it for granted.

Feel the gentle breeze lift up your cape. lol

Oh yeah def jealously. That's hard for merfolk to hear someone else proclaiming feelings of love to their mates even if it's pretend. We become afraid of loosing you, esp when everyone is doing it. We become like wth and worry if you would take up one of those offers. My taurus moon would kick in and say hey wait they're mine back off bud or things are going to get real...really quick.

That's really good hun! I'm happy you're making progress!!

Oh yeah that's a big talk. Did you have it already? I would suggest getting clarification to all your burning questions. Then you can truly decipher if you even want to go there. New light could be shed on the subject that could leave a bad taste in your mouth. Well aquas are really harsh just direct but she has tons of water in her chart so your gonna have to watch your tone and phrasing. If she had more earth or air in her charts you could just state things how you normally would and no offense would be taken. Since she doesn't just think about how you want to phrase things, but get to the root to the questions you want. Start off with light questions that you want answered then move to the progressive heavier ones.

Yeah she would get serious real quick with the jealousy things. Not mad at me, but the other people. Maybe show some nervousness towards me afterwords.

We actually haven't had it yet... Lol. My phone is being dumb and keeps resetting :C And I think she's out right now haha
But yeah, I understand I have to be really gentle and soft with what I need to ask. Reality is, I'm not all too sure what to ask. Obviously I want some clarification on why, or when she started to feel things go wrong, why the guy. But it's... difficult.

Yeah I can see it being directed towards others and the nervous behavior kicked in cause she didn't want you to see her vunerable or in such a light. We like to be mysterious and act like nothing phases us even when it does. Plus she might of thougth she was outta line and mermaids don't want to been seen as non-classy. We're ultra fems, I'm a tomboy but my mannerisms are ultra fems. Some mermaids are ultra fems in dress as well.

Oh trust me I get it. This could be a one time opportunity so as corny as it sounds make a list. lol Seriously!

She is so ultra-fem! Gah! I loved it. lol. *got all excited*

I'm trying!! LOL, kinda sucks she no reply no more, I think she fell asleep. Maybe tomorrow e_o

Yeah if she's serious about it she will cont the convo tomorrow and not leave you hanging if she does then you def need to say to yourself she can sod off.

lol that's cute @ your excitement.

lol, I dunno, it got me excited for no reason. like an "Oh-yeah!!" moment but... better? i dunno haha

we got side tracked from the seriousness now we are talking about homework... pffftttt...

I think I give up, she says no. Never again.
But I still get this stupid feeling of hope.

Aww... well maybe it's for the best. I hate saying that but what she did was mean and you deserve to be treated better than that. Plenty of mermaids in the sea my dear.

She wants space and no communication.she said that whether we talk or not doesn't make a difference to her.

Posted by HazardousWalk
She wants space and no communication.she said that whether we talk or not doesn't make a difference to her.

!!! That's pretty drastically mean. Are you sure something didn't happen between you two that you're overlooking? Otherwise, if nothing happened, she's a complete wench. People who treat other people they claimed were special to them as though they were disposable always piss me off.

Beyond that, the fact that she's framing it as "space," but being this tragically cruel about it suggests she may come a knockin' later. I mean, it really wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Perhaps showing her the same indifference she showed you would gives her the chance to develop some empathy.

@ extempjunk-
Something I noticed in our relationship was that some little things we never communicated about. Like how she had some jealousy/insecurities about certain other people talking with me, or when she became bothered by an action of mine, or someone else's, she would never explain why. Who did it, how it hurted her, how I could fix it for next time. And eventually the things built up over time so I would just "annoy, anger and frustrate" her at making the same mistakes.

The problems I had with her... Just not clarifying. There are times I say things without thinking and I understand immediately, like oh fuck, I messed up. I would apologize right after. And looking back now, I should've given her more space when she needed it, or understand that she was thinking of other things.

What's a bothering me though, is that she wanted us to be friends after the break up. Best friends. But the monday we come back to school, she doesn't talk to me. She avoids me. I say hey and what's up, but otherwise we don't talk unless I start it. I get no acknowledgment. I never got the real closure to us dating either, which is something I asked from her today, but again, she said she doesn't want to talk about it anymore, that I should be over it and forget about her and us, that its all over.

I understand I got to accept the end, but I don't understand why she ended it if the days before hand and even the day we broke up, we were bubbly and happy. She said "This is such a hard thing to do, because your such a good person and such a sweet girlfriend but...It will never work, I'm not happy with you anymore. We can still be friends though, I need you in my life. Best friends ok?"

She started dating someone else the next day (withing 24 hours). Either she was targeting this guy (who liked her since sophomore year) for a while, or she's in some crazy rebound relationship. Or even a mixture of both.

All in all, I'm stabbed. She tried to hide them dating, but I found her with hickies in class and they we're fairly obvious they were together.

I agree wholeheartily with extempt as usual.

When I read that my mouth gaped open. Yeah show her the indifference that you aquas master, like no one else. That's execeptionally cruel on top of the stunt that she pulled...equals I don't know how to properly frame this without sounding like heartless bitch.... so I'll say it like I am one. Fuck her. Shut it down, that should be the final straw, if it would of been for me and I would of had some non-friendly words fly out of my mouth. I have a leo rising and we can get angry pretty quick when you push the correct series of buttons. I would of told her I wouldn't give two flippy flops if she jumped off a cliff and superman caught her and dropped her from a taller height, Lewis C.K. said such magnificent words.

Hmm yeah... shut it down, rebuild Sam and be stronger. I will say this, if after time you decide to become friends or friendly with her you're a helluva woman. I would look at her sideways and laugh while I'm flicking her off and walking away. If you do just that, you have my blessing.

@HazardousWalk
She could be having an identity crisis of some sort. Maybe all of this callousness is wrapped up in that fact. It seems pretty common to think we're one way or another at the end of a milestone, like high school, only to discover in our 20's that it isn't all that black-and-white. I think you may have the right idea about this rebound relationship. I have the distinct impression that she will be back, if her "let's be best friends" bit is any indication (that may also be where her bubblyness came from, thinking that she could explore other options but still keep you in her life). As tbird has so eloquently stated, you seem like genuinely caring, thoughtful person, and you should be proud to be so at such a young age. This girl sounds like many flighty friends I've had in the past. But even flighty people wonder who their real friends are at some point. I think, particularly if you show her indifference, she will respond to you, break or no break.

Pisces never forgets, actually no one forgets someone they were around 24/7 for years altogether. If you make yourself scarce, because you sound like you were such a ballast of support for her, she will come looking for you. The only caveat is, she could easily become even more despicably thoughtless (if that's possible), if she's allowed to carry on as though she's done nothing wrong. She categorically does not deserve "best friend" treatment, and it's slightly appalling that she's selfish enough to even ask for it. I think you sound a little bit like you'd have appreciated the opportunity to work on things (thus, thinking through all the ways you supposedly "messed up"), but as I said, I still think she's too immature to realize this. I won't burden you with my personal moralizing about how undeserving she is of any contact with you, but instead simply say that if you want to pursue something with this person ever again, she has a LOT of growing up to do, and you probably aren't going to get any satisfactory treatment from her until she's done it.

tbird: Yeah, I'm not going to try and contact her. The bad thing being, that we're in every class together, including Drama and it's contest season, with rehearsals monday-friday 7-9. So I see her rather often. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, yet, we will always be in close proximity of each other.

But I am working out my quirks and bad habits. Trying to make a better, stronger me. I noticed I became, almost kinda, weak while being with her. In a way I changed. But I know I'm a strong, independent, romantic, caring, aloof even and mysterious woman. (And that sounds so sexy to me lol) I know I can grow up old and alone and be awesome (Not setting myself to grow up alone, just saying what i think). Would I want a romantic partner to cherish? Hell yes. Do I necessarily need one for my own happiness? Not at all.

I honestly didn't even reply back to that, it was all over text. Just a simple, "If you ever wana talk, you contact me"

I think at the end of the day, I will always be open to her as a friend, but when? Ehh... I'll see how she is when her birthday comes along. I'll tell her happy birthday, maybe make a quick sketch as a card (I would always gift her art, art is meh thing). If not, maybe she just doesn't want anything to do with me.