I have been friends with an aqua guy for about 3 years of and on. We work at the same place and in the beginning we talked in passing nothing meaningful and then he moved out of state for a while. when he came back he resumed his job with the same company and we work together again. This time I didn't catch it right away but after a while I caught on he was watching me and observing me like I was some kind of science project. Eventually we started talking more and spending breaks and lunches talking. The conversations started to take on a more erotic tone and we were flirting all the time. I told him he could submit his resume and I would revue it which really seemed to spark his curiousity. He replied with a very erotic resume listing his skills if you know what I mean. Anyway I was in a very unhappy relationship at the time and I was honest with him that the only reason I was staying with him was for my daughter (which aqua didn't understand, said it would never work and he was right) The relationship with my ex got so bad I told him we were done and I was there for the kids only and wanted nothing more to do with him. Which kind of opened the door a little more concerning the aqua I was spending my time with. We eventually started fooling around, he is the most amazing lover I have ever had. When I eventually left my ex I bought a home and moved in, the following weekend my aqua guy was coming to stay the weekend with me. It was so amazing. It's been about 8 months and we both agreed we dont want a relationship and we're both free to see who we want its a friends w/benefits situation. He has been with two other women one being my sister, the other a woman we worked with and neither of them lasted more than a couple of weeks and he comes back to me. He says I am the only person he knows that is real and has sense. He says he respects me and he cares about me. I really enjoy hanging out with him and we are really good friends he has never lied to me which I respect him alot for. Although we are in this friends w/benefits thing it sometimes seems like more but I know better. I do have feelings for him and I dont think I am ready for a relationship either but I really don't know what to make of this guy. the longer I hang out with him the more attached I seem to feel. I dont' want to feel this way especially about someone that could never have feeling for me. We had talked about living together to share the expenses and it never seemed to pan out he would get scared and back out and I got to the point I just didn't believe him and it wasnt me bring up the idea any more it was him but he could never see it through. I made my mind up even if he did want to move in I wouldnt let him. One weekend he was at the house and brought up the subject i basically didnt even give it any consideration at all and told him I didnt care what he did because he never seen thing through on that subject anyway and it wasnt worth me talking about. The next thing I know he said he had to go to the store and run a couple of arrands he would be back later. Well when he came back he had all of his things loaded in the car. He moved in and has been there for almost 2 months now all the while talking about when he can move and where he's moving and in all honesty I didnt think he would stay as long as he has. He has went from i'm moving in a couple of months to beginning of next year back to two month from now. I am at my wits end trying to figure out what he's doing next because I dont think he does. I like him alot and I care for him deeply but I dont think he could ever feel anything for me. Am I being a fool for offering my unconditional friendship. He does so many nice things for me he pays his own way and we have fun together but I dont want to get attached to someone that will never feel anything for me. Am I fooling my self?
what should I do
Thanks for your input and I know it sounds really bad but him being with other women really didin't bother me because at the time this happened we weren't in any sort of relationship and for that matter still aren't. We both agreed to see other people, we never committed to one another and it was strickly friends w/benefits. Whats bothering me I guess is that since he moved in, in may, we have grown extremely closer as in sleeping in the same bed (not my idea), riding back and forth to work together, and all of our free time is basically together. He has went out a couple of times by his self to the bar and to his friends house which doesn't bother me I am a very independent person and I don't need someone around me all the time nor do I feel I need to monitor what someone else does. We have this great friendship built on trust he doesn't lie to me and he has been honest with me about who he's been with. If I ask him he tells me the truth about anything even if he knows it's going to hurt me and I have to respect him for that. Since he's lived with me he hasn't been out with anyone else we have always gotten along great as friends and I guess since he moved in it's gotten a little weird for me it used to be black and white now it all seems grey it almost feels like we are in a relationship living together and doing things together but at the same time I know he doesn't want a relationship (nothings changed for him) but the longer he stays I find myself wondering what if. friends w/benefits relationships never turn into anything else but he's so charming and we get along so great I find my self questioning what I'm doing and feel like I'm going to get hurt but I dont know what to do about it and at the same time I dont feel I am ready for a relationship but I can't control what I feel for him. He has been hurt really bad by women in the past and he doesn't trust anyone but for some reason he trusts me we've talked alot he says he has respect for me which he doesn't have for women in general he says they are sneaky and cheaters and basically hoes. He makes me feel special in alot of ways but at the same time when we start getting along to well he closes up and pulls away. I think he's scared, we get along great and have never had an arguement which scares him even more I dont care what he does or where he goes I trust him that he will be honest and he is. In some ways I think thats why he slept with those other women to push me away. He gives me the impression that he thinks he is not worthy of being loved because he pays so much in child support he has nothing to offer a woman. but he's a really great guy and the side of him he shows everyone else is very cold and aloof, which is what he used to show me too but lately he has opened up and confided in me about things I know he hasn't confided in anyone else about and has started touching me (outside of the bed) and just being really nice to me. I used to tell him how mean he was in a joking way he's not mean he's just very aloof and withdrawn when it comes to affection. he's showing me a side of him I didn't know was there and it scares me because I'm affraid he's going to get scared and push me a way.
Just one pertinent question for you cancer711 - is he paying half towards your rent/mortgage?? or are you paying for it all?
Answer me that question and I will elaborate my friend.
A x
Answer me that question and I will elaborate my friend.
A x
I hope we don't have to wait toooo long - I want to hear the rest of this story!
cancer711- If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck- chances are, it's a duck...
In other words just because you guys have labeled your feelings for this guy as "friends w/ benefits" sort of thing- doesn't make what you have with him anything other than a full-blown, SNUGGLEBUG, you're my pooh-bear, RELATIONSHIP.
I don't know about you, but none of my friends live with me.. my last roomy paid rent and had her own bedroom.
Anyway, regardless of whatever I write here, sounds like you've got all figured out- and you want validation from the rest of us. I will say this- sounds like you guys want to circle around the big issue of having a relationship, even though you're already IN one. Eventually, the circle closes- and the both of you will have to face the undeniable fact that you're obviously MORE than friends ( or friends w/ benefits). The hard part is- once you realize this fact, will the two of you try to run from it?
In other words just because you guys have labeled your feelings for this guy as "friends w/ benefits" sort of thing- doesn't make what you have with him anything other than a full-blown, SNUGGLEBUG, you're my pooh-bear, RELATIONSHIP.
I don't know about you, but none of my friends live with me.. my last roomy paid rent and had her own bedroom.
Anyway, regardless of whatever I write here, sounds like you've got all figured out- and you want validation from the rest of us. I will say this- sounds like you guys want to circle around the big issue of having a relationship, even though you're already IN one. Eventually, the circle closes- and the both of you will have to face the undeniable fact that you're obviously MORE than friends ( or friends w/ benefits). The hard part is- once you realize this fact, will the two of you try to run from it?
Yes he does pay half the bills, food and gas back and forth to work. I just got out of a 15 year relationship which is why I may be hesitant to committ to a relationship and he is just aquarius which is why he is hesitant need I say more
OK fair enough Cancer 711 - the song "Ain't nothin' goin' on but the Rent" immediately sprang to mind when I first read your post and now you've clarified that. It's good that he's not sponging off you in that department - very good.
You say he's been badly hurt by women and you too are just out of a relationship...so you are both hesitant.....but isn't evey one of us that solider or those soldier-esses:-)! in one way or another— - we've all got bullet holes in our heart-shields.....that is life....is it good enough to use as a reason for not throwing yourselves into or holding back yourselves from THE BRINK— and THE BRINK as we all know it - is an exclusive relationship.
Bear in mind that aquarians and me so very included in this category are selfish and like to keep all our options open (that is our shadow side!!) - don't fence me in is our motto!!! No intensity, no commitment, no having to state your feelings on demand etc. Yuu say you are very OK with all of this - and so is he....so OK that he slept with your sister!!!.....now even the Great I-) would be jealous to the core at this scenario if it happened....are you dampening down those jealous feelings in any way?? Maybe not, but being cancer.........
You sleep in the same bed! - but it's not your idea. Come one now Missy...if you didn't like it, you wouldn't be going along with that - that's for sure......so I guess you are hoping that he'll get intimate in the bed - like before - and all's well that ends well:-)
Unconditional friendship..............fool?? I would never call anyone a fool - let's just say - Blinded by the light!!! the light of Mr. Aquarius which can be magical and wicked and delicious.....all those lovely jovely things:-)
Hey, if I was in the "dark and selfish zone" and had some friend that was meeting all my needs - house, bed, food, drives to work, freedom to chat about whatever I wanted to and whoever I with without feeling guilty etc., I would behave like Mr. Aqua is.....why not—? when you are in that frame of mind........but there comes a time when YOU will realize that you are second to nobody!!!:-) quality sterling:-), a shining diamond.....
What you and he have is called.......having your cake and eating it (and let me state again, I so understand him because he is-was the female version of me! up to a while ago until I woke up!!!......both of you are a-nibblin' at the cake........but what happens when it's completely nibbled away—......what will be left—? You know deep down Cancer711 the answer to that...everyone here reading knows the answer to that.....
So, it's up to you Missy......you keep on as you are - friends with options or benefits or whatever you call it.......or you choose your moment, state what you REALLY want from the relationship - but don't put him on the spot (never put aquarians on the spot!!golden rule!!!......give him time to reflect and get back to you on your "demands or conditions" - everyone needs to be told at a certain point in their life from their lover...this is what I want from you..this is what I need.....without it, I will not continue to be with you, I want you...but I know life will go on without you if you can't provide!!
I don't mean to sound harsh......it's just my birdseye view on your situation.....but remember birds can see from all angles:-) - they fly......crabs just look up......not meant to be derogatory to you in any way..........take care my pal. Ciao.
A x
You say he's been badly hurt by women and you too are just out of a relationship...so you are both hesitant.....but isn't evey one of us that solider or those soldier-esses:-)! in one way or another— - we've all got bullet holes in our heart-shields.....that is life....is it good enough to use as a reason for not throwing yourselves into or holding back yourselves from THE BRINK— and THE BRINK as we all know it - is an exclusive relationship.
Bear in mind that aquarians and me so very included in this category are selfish and like to keep all our options open (that is our shadow side!!) - don't fence me in is our motto!!! No intensity, no commitment, no having to state your feelings on demand etc. Yuu say you are very OK with all of this - and so is he....so OK that he slept with your sister!!!.....now even the Great I-) would be jealous to the core at this scenario if it happened....are you dampening down those jealous feelings in any way?? Maybe not, but being cancer.........
You sleep in the same bed! - but it's not your idea. Come one now Missy...if you didn't like it, you wouldn't be going along with that - that's for sure......so I guess you are hoping that he'll get intimate in the bed - like before - and all's well that ends well:-)
Unconditional friendship..............fool?? I would never call anyone a fool - let's just say - Blinded by the light!!! the light of Mr. Aquarius which can be magical and wicked and delicious.....all those lovely jovely things:-)
Hey, if I was in the "dark and selfish zone" and had some friend that was meeting all my needs - house, bed, food, drives to work, freedom to chat about whatever I wanted to and whoever I with without feeling guilty etc., I would behave like Mr. Aqua is.....why not—? when you are in that frame of mind........but there comes a time when YOU will realize that you are second to nobody!!!:-) quality sterling:-), a shining diamond.....
What you and he have is called.......having your cake and eating it (and let me state again, I so understand him because he is-was the female version of me! up to a while ago until I woke up!!!......both of you are a-nibblin' at the cake........but what happens when it's completely nibbled away—......what will be left—? You know deep down Cancer711 the answer to that...everyone here reading knows the answer to that.....
So, it's up to you Missy......you keep on as you are - friends with options or benefits or whatever you call it.......or you choose your moment, state what you REALLY want from the relationship - but don't put him on the spot (never put aquarians on the spot!!golden rule!!!......give him time to reflect and get back to you on your "demands or conditions" - everyone needs to be told at a certain point in their life from their lover...this is what I want from you..this is what I need.....without it, I will not continue to be with you, I want you...but I know life will go on without you if you can't provide!!
I don't mean to sound harsh......it's just my birdseye view on your situation.....but remember birds can see from all angles:-) - they fly......crabs just look up......not meant to be derogatory to you in any way..........take care my pal. Ciao.
A x
Yuu say you are very OK with all of this - and so is he....so OK that he slept with your sister!!!.....now even the Great I-) would be jealous to the core at this scenario if it happened....are you dampening down those jealous feelings in any way?? Maybe not, but being cancer.
Maybe in some ways I am dapening down my jealous feelings about what happen with the other women but I honestly don't feel I have a right to infringe those feelings upon him because our agreement at the time was and still is for all i know no strings attached. I think all men carry a tendency to cheat and in all honesty I think he did it to push me away because we were becoming to close and having to good of a time together it scared him and he thought I would head for the hills after doing it. When I didn't he was shocked to say the least even then he tryed to bail saying it made thing weird between us but since we work together time passed and I never mentioned it again and the weirdness to him must have worn off because we started hanging out again. I think deep down he is more standoffish than I about a relationship because even though I have been hurt I tend to get back on the horse and try again even if it doesn't work out the experiences shared during the time together gives you knowledge and experience in life the things we go through in life builds our character. you replied by saying
You sleep in the same bed! - but it's not your idea. Come one now Missy...if you didn't like it, you wouldn't be going along with that - that's for sure......so I guess you are hoping that he'll get intimate in the bed - like before - and all's well that ends well:-)
I'm not saying I don't like it but him moving in was un expected I have a spare bedroom and that was the original arrangement when we originally spoke of moving in together to help each other financially (i am a single mom and he pays child support for his son so were both financially hendered)like i said before we started as friends w/benefits no strings attached but since he moved in he took the initiative to sleep in my bed I never asked him to I have tryed keeping it the way he wants it no strings attached. Also to protect myself from being hurt because I really don't think he has feelings for me at all. he says he cares but I think that is only in a friendship way that is why him sleeping in my bed confuses me it's not that I dont like it but it makes what I feel for him harder to fight. I honestly think if I told him how I felt I would never see him again. I enjoy spending time with him for how ever long he is around but at the same time I don't want to be hurt and thats why I keep him pushed away because I really don't think he cares about me that way, even though he plays games and at times seems like he has feelings I know he is just playing with me to see what kind of response he gets not because he feels for me but because of his ego maybe or possibly the shock factor he gets from me and I don't think he realizes he could hurt me by doing it if I let him.
Maybe in some ways I am dapening down my jealous feelings about what happen with the other women but I honestly don't feel I have a right to infringe those feelings upon him because our agreement at the time was and still is for all i know no strings attached. I think all men carry a tendency to cheat and in all honesty I think he did it to push me away because we were becoming to close and having to good of a time together it scared him and he thought I would head for the hills after doing it. When I didn't he was shocked to say the least even then he tryed to bail saying it made thing weird between us but since we work together time passed and I never mentioned it again and the weirdness to him must have worn off because we started hanging out again. I think deep down he is more standoffish than I about a relationship because even though I have been hurt I tend to get back on the horse and try again even if it doesn't work out the experiences shared during the time together gives you knowledge and experience in life the things we go through in life builds our character. you replied by saying
You sleep in the same bed! - but it's not your idea. Come one now Missy...if you didn't like it, you wouldn't be going along with that - that's for sure......so I guess you are hoping that he'll get intimate in the bed - like before - and all's well that ends well:-)
I'm not saying I don't like it but him moving in was un expected I have a spare bedroom and that was the original arrangement when we originally spoke of moving in together to help each other financially (i am a single mom and he pays child support for his son so were both financially hendered)like i said before we started as friends w/benefits no strings attached but since he moved in he took the initiative to sleep in my bed I never asked him to I have tryed keeping it the way he wants it no strings attached. Also to protect myself from being hurt because I really don't think he has feelings for me at all. he says he cares but I think that is only in a friendship way that is why him sleeping in my bed confuses me it's not that I dont like it but it makes what I feel for him harder to fight. I honestly think if I told him how I felt I would never see him again. I enjoy spending time with him for how ever long he is around but at the same time I don't want to be hurt and thats why I keep him pushed away because I really don't think he cares about me that way, even though he plays games and at times seems like he has feelings I know he is just playing with me to see what kind of response he gets not because he feels for me but because of his ego maybe or possibly the shock factor he gets from me and I don't think he realizes he could hurt me by doing it if I let him.
Hi Cancer711 -
I hope you don't mind if I throw in my thoughts here...I will warn you ahead of time that I have the ability to be blunt and call it as I see it...I'm not one to "sugar coat" and dance around the issue...it is what it is and I believe once we recognize the problem we can change the outcome.
This situation is not about HIM...it is about you sweetie and your lack of self confidence in yourself. You are giving away you...why? Why do you not feel worthy of yourself? Why do you want to share your home with a man that if you express your honest feelings may walk out on you? this then, is not an honest relationship and you are not being honest with you! So, I feel that your pain is coming from the fact that you don't believe in you, you are not trusting you and you more than anyting want your power to be the wonderful woman that you are.
I do not know what his motives are but I am aware that anyone will take anything if they are allowed to...this creates for one person to be used by another unless, one of the parties stands up for themselves, their beliefs and speaks their truth from their heart.
Tell him that you need for him to sleep in the other room. If he balks at that and tries to get you to change your mind (gut feeling, he will - I too was involved with an Aqua man - they want everything their way) you stand strong in your conviction and tell him in no uncertain terms will you allow for him to be in your room. He may say, fine I am leaving....you attitude - "that is fine, I understand." Let him go....this is about you and your strength...honoring YOU! This is YOUR lesson. Not meaning to be harsh here but you are "justifying" his actions. Take the focus off of him and put it back where it belongs - on you Missy - the most important valuable prize there is!!!! You will respect yourself for this and believe it or not, so will Mr. Aqua!
Best Wishes,
The Bird
I hope you don't mind if I throw in my thoughts here...I will warn you ahead of time that I have the ability to be blunt and call it as I see it...I'm not one to "sugar coat" and dance around the issue...it is what it is and I believe once we recognize the problem we can change the outcome.
This situation is not about HIM...it is about you sweetie and your lack of self confidence in yourself. You are giving away you...why? Why do you not feel worthy of yourself? Why do you want to share your home with a man that if you express your honest feelings may walk out on you? this then, is not an honest relationship and you are not being honest with you! So, I feel that your pain is coming from the fact that you don't believe in you, you are not trusting you and you more than anyting want your power to be the wonderful woman that you are.
I do not know what his motives are but I am aware that anyone will take anything if they are allowed to...this creates for one person to be used by another unless, one of the parties stands up for themselves, their beliefs and speaks their truth from their heart.
Tell him that you need for him to sleep in the other room. If he balks at that and tries to get you to change your mind (gut feeling, he will - I too was involved with an Aqua man - they want everything their way) you stand strong in your conviction and tell him in no uncertain terms will you allow for him to be in your room. He may say, fine I am leaving....you attitude - "that is fine, I understand." Let him go....this is about you and your strength...honoring YOU! This is YOUR lesson. Not meaning to be harsh here but you are "justifying" his actions. Take the focus off of him and put it back where it belongs - on you Missy - the most important valuable prize there is!!!! You will respect yourself for this and believe it or not, so will Mr. Aqua!
Best Wishes,
The Bird
Yes he did have sex with my sister but when this happened it was a long time ago, before he moved in and in all honesty I think he did it just to push me away because we were becoming to close to quick and it scared him. He is extremely honest with me and we have no committment to one another and I am free to be with anyone I want to be with also. I do feel like what were doing is developing into something substantial he has been giving me the impression that he is ready to be with me only but he wont voice it and in all honesty I'm affraid to ask him because of his bitter honesty and if i did ask he would take it as a sign I was trying to control him or own him which we all know aquarians do not like. I accept him for who he is, faults and all. He has lived with me for two months almost three now. we get along great and have a lot of fun. he has opened up to me alot in the past few months and it feels like it is developing into something more but with him its kind of enjoy the ride your on a need to know basis and when he is comfortable enough he opens up to me about whats on his mind and what hes feeling you cannot force an aquarian to tell you something they are not ready to tell. which is fine with me at least this way I know it comes from being sincere and not from some shallow place of telling me what I want to hear. I'm not a pushy person and i'm very patient I really think he does certain things testing me to see how I react and possibly for him to have a reason to say your no different than anyone else and he can walk away justified. He plays games and sometimes I don't think he even realizes he plays them which in some ways i do to I test people because i have been hurt so bad I would rather find out who you are from the get go than to waste my time believing the game people play to get what they want.
I know this probably sounds really odd to everyone reading about the situation i'm in. But he really is a very nice guy and we are not in a relationship so I don't consider what happened cheating. In the beginning I thought he hated me because of the way he acted distant and aloof but still wanting to hang out with me it's confusing and sends mixed messages. And several times I have come to the conclusion that he's just playing games and I would walk away from the situation and not have anything to do with him other than being co-workers. And everytime I write him off he bares his soul and lets me know he does care and it's almost appears painful for him to open up that much to anyone. I have gotten to the point that I just enjoy being around him and what ever happens happens but theres this side of me that really doesn't want to go through the pain of loosing him if he walks away. He was born
february 7, 1970 and I was born july 11, 1969. I have done compatability reports and it seems conflicting in what it says nothing one way or the other or it just says we are to different. But in all this time we have been hanging out we have never once had an arguement and we have never been mad at one another we talk through whats bothering us and we respect each others differences. I don't know if I'm reading these reports wrong or not but it doesn't seem to me like it adds up. maybe someone knows something I dont know about reading these things and can give me some input.
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february 7, 1970 and I was born july 11, 1969. I have done compatability reports and it seems conflicting in what it says nothing one way or the other or it just says we are to different. But in all this time we have been hanging out we have never once had an arguement and we have never been mad at one another we talk through whats bothering us and we respect each others differences. I don't know if I'm reading these reports wrong or not but it doesn't seem to me like it adds up. maybe someone knows something I dont know about reading these things and can give me some input.
thanks
Cancer711 - I suppose it really is up to you sweetie this life that you are creating for yourself. Do you chose to base it on reports or how YOU are feeling? I think for most of us what we desire in our heart is to know and have PEACE wherever we are and with whom. If you are at peace and all feels well in your world then Lady - keep on keepin on....if not, then change needs to happen and that is up to you.
Peace
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