WHAT MAKES AN ARIES SO POWERFUL?

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Why would one want to be anything other than what they are? There lies much freedom in being the "real" you. 😉

"because they can't think what happens after." of course not! no one knows what is going to happen...one can "assume" one can "predict" but who in the world wants to live in that place? Learn to live in the moment and you will experience much joy, more than you will ever know. Let go of the control of what "might" happen and enjoy what IS happening.
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I can relate my brother to you Freebird (He's an Aries and only 1 year younger than me)(Actually 1 year and 20 days lol). I do see how he lives. His life is constant running. He can't stay in one place and relate with people for a long period of time. He always leave people to find others, because he do not practice the exact thing that we are speaking here. Which means to "know" what will happen next. He always jump into situation be it right or not. He dont care about others opinions, he's opinion is only thing that matters. Of course people do have their own thought too. But for him this is unknown part. He always bump with their ideas, then leave them and find new ones. Like a parasite LOL (He is not any real parasite, just the way he does are like parasites). Perhaps that why Aries are soo active. Because otherwise they will bore to death (also considering that they have little patience). They have to find new people to deal with their boredome. And then everything happens again. He leaves them and finds a new ones. I think this is where he and me differs. I seek for stability in the relations with people while he seeks for own rights. Yes actually this part is funny, because many people do follow he's "rights" since he is a good liar and people beleive him (for a short time of course). He do tells alot of lies to people. Deliberatly lieing to them while he gets what he wants. But none of these methods are "stable". They always backfire. So an Aries is like a trapped person. They have to run ahead to find new people or their boredome will kill them. Which comes to the point that worth of people in their eyes are according to it (they do not give worth to the people).
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Ah Haffo...you seem by your post that you are judging all Aries to be the same. Ummmm...not so sure about that. Each person offers something wonderful to humankind...what if, you chose to find the good qualities in your brother and focus on those? Yes, Aries are born with ENERGY..it is part of our programming - we are learning how to use it. Sometimes I feel that you think we all should know everything already...hey buddy, this is what life is for, to discover who we are and we discover by LIVING...by taking risks. I truly do not believe that you know the outcome of every choice that you make...nah, don't buy that fishy tale. Yes, there are some things we do know because we have learned them by example...such as, touching a hot stove will burn you, walking in the rain will cause you to get wet, standing in the sun will cause you to become hot....we do not however, know the response of another individual in any given circumstance as individuals are in a constant form of change. I may respond one day a certain way and another day a completely different way....it's all good.

Aries enjoy people, I have learned and still do, so much from so many people and how does that happen? I put myself in those situations to meet them, to be with them. I do have friends that go way back and I treasure their friendships like gold. There are no garentees that anyone will stay in your life, some are there for just a moment, some a month, a few months and some a lifetime....does it really matter Haffo how long they are there or does it matter more that perhaps a heart has been touched and a lesson has been learned? I feel that we must allow anyone to come and go as they please.

I also feel that you may be judging your brother a bit too much, seems like you are expecting him to be like you, to have your values - he isn't you and never will be - he is doing the best he can with what he knows - he will survive and I will tell you one thing...he will be a very strong man for every experience that he has gone through.
Aries are all about new experiences, blazing the trail, no fear, exploring, learning, living in the moment....some people can be with people but they are not really with them...if you know what I mean - just going through the motions. Us Aries, when we are with someone, we are with them! And to us, that is the gift of being with another person.

I hope that you will someday find it within yourself to accept your brother for the person he is.
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I was thinking about that part Freebird:

"Accept people as they are"

So you pratically mean accept them with their good and bad sides. It doesn't matter what are their bad sides, just aim your time to the fun with them? That makes some sence. How do you tolerate their bad sides then? You just ignore them? Doesn't that bother you? Don't you think that they should act properly? What if they stop calling you? You call them? As long as the result of calling them is good for you? Is that what you doing?
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I'll have to agree with you Freebird.

That Arien energy, that fire- can be both good and bad... but just because Arien's are known for their ability to rush forward, doesn't mean that actions were carried through without fore-thought or insight.

Additionally, you cannot paint all ariens with the same brush. I (as well as many others) say.. people are people! Perhaps there are some attributes I share with haffo's brother- perhaps there are others that I don't. Or, perhaps, unseen by haffo, there are several positive attributes to his brother that are stereo-typical Arien traits.

Also, I have to say, that I disagree that all Aries people cannot relate to people for any length of time. I have many "friends for life".. my longest friendship being 17 years now (that's if you don't count my mom, who's been my best buddy as long as I've I can remember taking a breath).
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haffo:
So you pratically mean accept them with their good and bad sides. It doesn't matter what are their bad sides, just aim your time to the fun with them?
If you care for them, Yes.

How do you tolerate their bad sides then?
That's up to you. Remember- you care about this person. Everyone you know will do something that will annoy you.. because people are different. You have to realize that this person thinks different from you and will act different.... perhaps some differences you can learn from.

You just ignore them?
You can. But I find, when someone does something that I don't agree with, I like to talk about it with them.. and express how I feel about it. If we cannot talk- and I still want to continue the relationship, then yes, I just accept that as part of their personality. But generally, people who have cared for me in return have tried to take my feelings into consideration when we interact, and vice versa.

Doesn't that bother you?
Like I said, if you care for a person, then making compromises- and accepting parts of their personality is part of helping the relationship grow.

Don't you think that they should act properly?
You're idea of "acting" properly is not static-- meaning, it's not a rule for everyone. Of course, there are some societal "norms".. but not everyone handles EVERY situation the same. Some people don't like confrontation- and will avoid you if they think you angry... others will come and knock down your door the minute there's oppostition. Who's to say which way is the right way?? You have to change your gage from "acting properly" from.. whether or not you feel this person has intentionally tried to disrespect you. You'll find if this person cares for you-- chances are, they did not.

What if they stop calling you? You call them? As long as the result of calling them is good for you? Is that what you doing?
Your choice- whatever you feel makes you comfortable, without feeling you've compromised your self-respect. If you think calling someone when they haven't called you in 3 weeks is OK, then do it... if you think calling them after 3 days of no contact is OK.. then do it. You never know why someone stopped calling- it could be that they have problems/issues of their own.. that are outside their relationship with you.
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How do you tolerate their bad sides then?


I can answer this one well enough:

Many of my heroes are people who have been greatly talented with many strengths and 'powers', yet half the time were able to soar and the other half they used their talents and strengths for negativity - so I have been able to see what it is that gives me the Patience to Understand their 'bad sides' and celebrate their 'good sides'.

You tolerate ANYONE'S bad side through Compassion. There can be nothing more to it. Powerful Compassion Conquers Powerful Hostility, before hostility is even neccessary. Once hostility becomes 'neccessary' then compassion gets nothing done, so the trick is not to wait to be compassionate until after the confrontation, but to Always Maintain Your Compassion. It's obvious than no human can do that 24/7, but that's the Challenge of it. And, There's Everything To Gain From HEALTHY Challenge - Surmounting 'hard' is what makes 'Great' (That should be a Capricorn motto, since they're the mountain climbers of the zodiac).

Humans need to learn to climb moutains - the mountain here is Intolerance - such a distgusting word to me. Dumb & Disgusting!!!

PS - Another good point is to substitute the word Understanding for tolerance...tolerance is basically a baby step towards really truly honestly understanding a man or woman who is under the pressure of Life.

Understand?
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"Why should I show compassion when the person didnt earn for it?"

Because there's no doubt in my mind that you've been forgiven in your time alove too! And if one person deserves forgiveness, any person does.

I know there are REAL circumstances which prevent everything from being perfect and pretty like I described, but when you learn to Understand the disgusting side of Life, you're a formidable force for Positivity - Trust Me!
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Hi to you Haffo! My question to you would be, "Why would you NOT want to be compassionate with another human?" Remember, what goes around comes around. I know we each see things from a different POV but...I'm not so sure that one must "earn" feelings...sounds a bit to me that doing that may be a form of control? We give to others because we can without expecting anything in return...one could see this as giving a gift - just because. Ultimately when we take these actions towards another, it really makes us (the giver) feel good and that is the reason if not the only reason we chose to do so.

"How can I forgive such person?" One cannot truly forgive another person until he is able to forgive himself. Once you are able to forgive you will feel a sense of peace.

Haffo, life is about learning, welcome to the School of Life where you will have every opportunity to learn everything and anything you desire. There are no mistakes, only lessons to be learned and I for one commend you on your ability to ask questions and to be open to what you read. This is a life long process so we might as well decide to enjoy the journey...for truly, that is all we have.

Okay, I began my response awhile ago and took a few phone calls....I don't know if anyone has yet responded to your posts...best wishes Mr. Fishes!
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That's a good point then, you don't have to save the Life of an idiot if he insists on running himself and all who support him into a brick wall - but either you are a Compassionate person, or you are not, there is no halfway; if you are a Patient and Tolerant person then you do not have to support a person's bad actions/decisions, but you still can support that person with hopes that he'll find a better way on a better day! There really is no halfway Compassion! 'To be or not to be' Compassionate and Forgiving and Patient and Tolerant is the Question.