11th house

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgelevhouse_e.htm

—Traditional astrology speaks feebly of the eleventh house as the house of —hopes and wishes.?? How weak a conception for one of the most vibrant of all the houses!??3 That's what the father of modern humanistic astrology, Dane Rudhyar, had to say about the 11th. And what did Rudhyar believe was more vital than good fortune? "(B)anding together with friends, with companions fired by a similar yearning for vision and creative social or religious change.?? Which makes me think of a beer commercial full of visionaries and humanitarians. The 11th lost the benefits of its position between the 12th and 10th houses, its planets out of danger and on their way up. Modern astrology uses the —alphabet?? system. That means the 11th house is allotted the attributes of the 11th sign of the zodiac: visionary, humanitarian, and future-oriented Aquarius. That's how —friends and benefactors?? grew to include —community?? in general. And how we got the assignment to join with others here, to work for the greater good. In the 11th, says Rudhyar, —the power of society, of the collectivity or the group, is released through the individual ??_ or more specifically, through the activities the individual performs through the social unit.??4 Gone are personal hopes and dreams, also gifts from the king. We??re now meant to join with our brothers and sisters and map a shiny future of the world. Go to PTA meetings! Join Overeaters Anonymous! Save the Whales!

RevolutionTrained as a modern astrologer, I discovered this house's legacy of good fortune only recently. If planets here attract unexpected blessings, my eyes have not been trained to look for them. I would like to tell you happy stories of fortunate 11th house planets and transits. But it's perhaps an occupational hazard that clients rarely call astrologers to say good fortune has struck them and they??d like to know what the devil is going on. Nor am I experienced enough in the art of horary astrology, for which the 11th??s fortunate meanings are largely intended. Horary erects a chart for the moment a client asks a question of an astrologer. If the question is —Will I get what I'm hoping for— the condition of the 11th house ruler will indicate whether the answer is yes or no. What I did learn from my clients was that planets or transits through this house do not always signal a particular delight in saving humanity, joining groups or

"The 11th house gives us friends and community, but it requires something of us in return. It expects us to periodically relinquish self, to balance individuality with —hive?? mind. What's striking about indigenous cultures is how they can live in exactly the same way for hundreds, even thousands of years. Indigenous (earth) cultures are heavy with Saturn. The tradeoff is that in such tribes innovating individuals are shunned. There are no parades for being different; individuality is death to the group. In the myth, Saturn follows in his father??s footsteps and eats his children too, until his son, the new sky god Zeus eventually cuts him down. The tension between earth and sky is always present in society. The too rigid community makes it impossible to individuate. The too individualistic society makes for a dangerous, unstable world."

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i'm pretty familiar with 8th house /12th house themes. But i wanna understand in-depth of what 11th house does and who has this in their chart in stellium, ect.

what i've noticed is that, when reviewing alot of celebritie's histories and their tumultous love stories, the 11th house is involved. this is UNREQUITED love.

I mean, it's hard to explain, because the person in question is LOVED but only platonically and not loved romantically. Maybe lustfully but not deeply in a way that requires PASSION and intensity, get my meaning??

It can't love deeply because those energies belong in the realm of water. (12th, 8th, 4th) and anyone can have these in loads. But going beyond sun and moon, let's look at the love planets and see where and why unrequitedness is always a BIG theme with them.

The LONG and desire what others have. And once they have it, they don't know what to do with it, so they RUN, because it cannot understand the depths of PASSION.

there are alot of historical figures with this, but many of them usually don't end up married, or they have long distance affairs that don't really have any DEEP meaning.

Of course, i'm just focusing on 11th house.

Obviously it's got alot of good stuff in there. Hopes and wishes, and dreams fulfilled. Unexpected Gains.

For example, if a bunch of people WANT and DESIRE one thing and it's the "in" thing,
would this be 11th house theme where they idealistically see what others have? and think to themselves, I want that TOO!!
cause they don't know what they want? (this can be any sun sign. lol because you gotta go deep into the chart and also look at their past history with people and their relationships)

Or maybe this is 7th house? Maybe someone can chime in and find out what 7th house really really means.

Maybe that is actually 7th house and 11th house is focused more on innovation and technology.
And 7th house is focused on what IDEAL they want.

anyway it sounds FICKLE as fuck.

if everyone wants the same thing, and desires the same thing,and you don't know what you want....and if it's the IN thing.

jesus christ!!

one of my fave astrologers is a taurus guy with cancer domininat in his chart, gemini rising:

http://www.astrologyzine.com/attract-men-aquarius.shtml

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

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so i look to that. And think, hmmm why the fear of commitment?? why LONG for someone who is not available?? you see what i mean? I notice it alot even here on this forum. can also be 11th house venus/moon or just dominant 11th house.

how do you find yourself in past relationships, PVAF?

if it's too personal,don't have to answer.

But do you find yourself being too choosy? you find things about that person flawed?

(this might be your Virgo moon thought 😛
so that could be part of it as well)

yeah but um you have a libra mars. You want a relationship. So forget that!! 😆

you got way too many conflicting energies.

well anyway um, hmm *hears crickets* 😆

i was jsut thinking of the film, "Divergent"

Posted by RainDancer88
All I know is I have taurus jupiter in retrograde 11th house.

And that be about it. All my plants are in 3rd,4th,5th,6th and my one 11th.

i have no idea about that. You'll have to google retrograde.

but being in 11th house. You should have LUCK in the 11th house theme.

My moon, mars, and venus are in the 11th house.

No comment ^.^

any of you dominant 11th housers, in moon/sun/ venus/mars, love planets/stellium whatever....

you really really need someone with air houses.

My husband has air houses and his personal planets are in those air houses. It really makes a HUGE difference. While placements alone he is dominant water/fire/ tiny air/lack of air. BUT because of the placement of air houses. He and I mesh wonderfully. We get eachother's "space" but at the same time, we need passion and commitment. Full on.

So, astrology is true in that you NEED air with air. and fire with fire. Water with water. Earth with earth. To understand eachother deeply.

Also, you will feel that you don't want anything else in the world. That this is the end of the line. Till death do you part.

I guess it's similar to how Mercury understands Mercury you know? You need someone with dominant mercury in the chart to KEEP UP, or you will be left behind.

And the litany of water needs water is TRUE. you can't be paired otherwise. It'll end in disaster.

Posted by lisabethur8
anyway it sounds FICKLE as fuck.

if everyone wants the same thing, and desires the same thing,and you don't know what you want....and if it's the IN thing.

jesus christ!!

one of my fave astrologers is a taurus guy with cancer domininat in his chart, gemini rising:

http://www.astrologyzine.com/attract-men-aquarius.shtml

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

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so i look to that. And think, hmmm why the fear of commitment?? why LONG for someone who is not available?? you see what i mean? I notice it alot even here on this forum. can also be 11th house venus/moon or just dominant 11th house.

I have Aquarius on the cusp of the 11th, and Moon in Pisces also in the 11th.

Moon squares Neptune (ugh) but also trines Saturn-- soo

*shrugs*


I don't feel fickle as fuck. :/

virgo in venus?


that is in the fall you know.

and is very very CHOOSY with a partner.


you may NOT see yourself as fickle. But maybe others may see you as fickle since you haven't chosen a love partner or just easily let go of partners.

like maybe you find something about them you don't like. You are fed up with it! so others may see that as "fickle" you see??

i have no idea. you would know yourself by googling virgo in venus fall.

there are plenty of people that partner well with virgo venus.

but i do notice they need someone who makes them feel PROUD. Or maybe that's something else in the chart??

me:
Empty 11th house - The native more likely needs a few close friends rather than a fondness for group activites with lots of people.

Posted by PVandJellay

Posted by lisabethur8
how do you find yourself in past relationships, PVAF?

if it's too personal,don't have to answer.

But do you find yourself being too choosy? you find things about that person flawed?

(this might be your Virgo moon thought 😛
so that could be part of it as well)

All of the above. LOL. I have a tendency to over analyze as well. I can see if everything isn't gonna work out. Usually others assume it's me being non committal, but actually I'm just trying to be cautious.

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that could also be your water too. Earth is seen as being "cautious" and can be good at bullshit meter, and water is good at the FEELS, so you need a connection. Since you have air venus/mars, you need someone intellectual to get your juices going too. 😄 Oh and of course, your virgo parts.

Posted by DwellingOnMove
me:
Empty 11th house - The native more likely needs a few close friends rather than a fondness for group activites with lots of people.

you do have Saturn in Aquarius right?

that's in it's co-ruler, same with Saturn capricorn, and exalted in Libra.

that might mean something very significant.

🙂 i get you. A good man with lots of high emotional quotient (deep love) and very high intelligence. super duper plus. you can't beat that.

yes, I have Saturn in Aquarius.
(And Libra on the cusp of 11th house.)

Sun, Mercury and Venus in 11th and Aquarius MC

And my love one venus in Aquarius 😉

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Posted by lisabethur8

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Posted by lisabethur8
how do you find yourself in past relationships, PVAF?

if it's too personal,don't have to answer.

But do you find yourself being too choosy? you find things about that person flawed?

(this might be your Virgo moon thought 😛
so that could be part of it as well)

All of the above. LOL. I have a tendency to over analyze as well. I can see if everything isn't gonna work out. Usually others assume it's me being non committal, but actually I'm just trying to be cautious.

that could also be your water too. Earth is seen as being "cautious" and can be good at bullshit meter, and water is good at the FEELS, so you need a connection. Since you have air venus/mars, you need someone intellectual to get your juices going too. 😄 Oh and of course, your virgo parts.

Absolutely. 🙂 For me the emotional and mental connection are the most important thing.

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i get ya.

for me too. but emotional/financial/love security, lots of SECURITY for me too. But i want to also have a couple of hobbies to keep my mind/mental capacities SHARP. that's it. Everything else, love the security.

my husband TOO loves to keep his MIND SHARP. Love that part.

don't be dumb!! keep on reading and keep on keeping your MIND sharp.

Taurus Venus in 11th and Aries Merc in 11th also.

My best friend has sun, venus, mercury and jupiter in the eleventh house and he is in no way fickle.

Posted by FrostAndBite
Sun, Mercury, Venus and Pluto stellium in the 11th.

I'm totally not fickle. I don't often desire something that others have really either.

My main problems I attribute to 11th is my community. I always have a deep longing to be a part of a community, friend group, to 'fit in'. But I never can when I try. I always somehow, someway am left on the outside.

When I let go, and don't care to be a part of the group, people tend to flock towards me and want to bring me into the group. But if I give in and try to start belonging, I tend to lose myself and become unhappy or once again, I don't really fit in.

The only way I see it affecting me romantically is maybe my personality. I believe every human being to be highly valuable and completely interesting. So I often pursue friends and even acquaintances with the same focus as others do romance. Which often creates the idea of romantic interest in the other person. People aren't used to someone being genuinely interested in the complexities of your life and personality who don't want to fuck you. So I regularly have to moderate and reinforce boundaries with them.

i kind of get where you're coming from. Only having a singularity aquarius.
that's why i've learned over time to not get close to people in real life. People (especially of the opposite sex) tend to fall in love and although many are very intuitive and "Get" it that i'm not into you, many are still NOT, and want to desire you. You have to keep boundaries since most people don't out there. but i've learned that over the years, and thus why i love being a hermit as well and pursue my interests privately and passionately. I also don't desire what others have. i seem to get what i need and want anyway. Not greedy in that aspect, more content.

well that's how i've learned over time. Romantically, i keep that close to my heart. Thanks for the comments and insights.

i was just watching the last 2 epis of "How I met your mother"

jeez...

Robin..... is so aquarius venus, the kind that never commits fully, UNLESS she finds a "distant" lover.

yet gets men like Ted (cancer venus) who can't help himself (leo energy loves the opposite) and finds unrequited love from her. Omg.

he can't let go of her.....just what an aquarius venus NEEDS. someone who never gives up.

so hopeless. but omg...so heartbreaking.

our pisces uncle is an aquarius venus, and my mother in law is one,

distant love, but never ever give up. LET GO to love.... The IRONY.

dammnit.. *SOB*

i broke out in TEARS ::; waahhhh:::

it was soooooooo sad. the episodes make me so emotional.