Any comments on Moon/Saturn square?

I've already heard you feel abandonment with it and that you can be the melancholy type (which I say I am).
Well I certainly do not want to be depressed/melancholic anymore.
But what other aspects about this placement?
(I also notice a lot of actors have this placement: Marilyn Monroe, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, Leonardo DiCaprio, etc.)


Thoughts/experiences?

Also realized not only does my moon (Leo) square my Saturn, but it squares the man I just broke up with's Saturn (Scorpio).
And I heard that a hard to deal with aspect in a relationship.
(Along with Man Venus square her Mars, which in our case it did as well. Lol)

Posted by Jahlia
You're an emotional prisoner of past experience and often experience irrational fears due to forgotten events. You're often melancholy, unhappy, depressed, moody, insecure, very selfish and lacking in emotional vitality. Others may avoid you due to your bleak view of life. You may have a mother complex or some other inhibition instilled in you in your early childhood. You tend to isolate yourself, creating a self-perpetuating cycle of "poor me" and "I'm so lonely" and you may develop a martyr or inferiority complex. You must learn to handle your frustration, discontent and depression by forcing yourself to face each new day with faith and optimism. You have difficulty dealing with women and (men particularly) are awkward and shy in front of the opposite sex. You tend to be your own worst enemy and, because you must work harder than others to prove yourself, you lack self-confidence. Your marriage partner is usually much older than you and you have few children. Women have difficulties with their mothers and lack a maternal instinct or are over-possessive of their children. Men are too feminine and become petty and tyrannical to compensate.

Thank God there are other aspects in the chart to work with. 🙂

@Skye-- this is a brutal description, imo, and it may be that it is just a lesser aspect among others that could have been exaggerated by the fact that your significant other had it, as well.


But it was still nice of Jahlia to post. 😉

Where/what is your moon placement?

^My moon is in Leo.

And it's not that HE has the square in his chart, it's that MY moon squares HIS Saturn, just like it squares MY OWN Saturn.

What I want to learn is that does one typically struggle VERY HARD all of their lives to be happy? Such a fate makes me want to go crazy because it's true I have not been close to my mother when I was young, I had been a lonely and depressed child, and very true that I am my biggest critic and lack maternal instinct sometimes (but not mostly, because when people are sick or have health problems, I always have something to say.)

This is depressing as hell. Add to it, my Mars in Pisces. Which both Marilyn Monroe and Heath Ledger had. Which both basically died tragically. I won't lie, I HAVE been curious about suicide, but more so within the last 4 years and I know it has to do with the dumb notion that it's too late to be happy, that my unhappy childhood already shut me out of the opportunity to be a naturally normal functioning adult. (I'm in my late 20s). And part of the unhappy childhood is the reason why it's hard and almost unrealistic to just somehow all of the sudden view things optimistically.

I just want to see the face/character of people who have this aspect and how they deal with this aspect to still achieve their goals. I do NOT want to battle self-doubt and depression ALL my life AND every time I want to accomplish something! Ugh. Since I am on a path to betterment, I want to feel at peace with that, not constantly unsettled. And I want things to WORK FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE with the assistance of positive thinking/real affirmations.

How do some of you deal with this cursed aspect—

I have this aspect too...and I think the description hits the nail on the head (most of it not all)...at least for me. Plus I have a Leo moon as well :/

Wow there's a lot of actors/dramatic people with this aspect.
Just realized Phyllis Hyman (singer) had this aspect too....
And those of you who know about her, know how she ended up. )':


From Astrology3d

"Moon Square or opposite Saturn: There is a lack of emotional flexibility or optimism. depression. Judgmental attitudes may block abilities to respond to others in an appropriate way. Life is just hard." Well that sure wasn't sugar-coating anything. lol. I am all these except judgemental; I am so nonjudgmental I get annoyed with myself sometimes, haha.

Man, there's gotta be a separate blog or something on just this aspect. I am intrigued.

And just to add, it's sad to me because of what it represents; Moon represents a mother to me and Saturn a father. And just like in my real life, they DID NOT get along either. It neverrrrr worked out. And even though I really believe in my heart marriages where people are soul mates, I already have a bleak outlook on marriages in general, so trying to understand how to just cope with it is not realistic to me. Just something I've been thinking about.

Not sure. According to astrotheme, 40.1% water, then evenly split between Earth & Fire.

Each time we get rejected, it hurts. It hurts much deeper than the situation objectively calls for (usually), it hurts much deeper than what the other person is actually saying, and the fact that it hurts so deeply and sometimes even unconsciously so, is because something within ourselves is touched, and that something within is our own disapproval of ourselves within. With Saturn, we will NEVER find acceptance from anybody outside of ourselves, simply, because there is a part in us that does not believe it whatever the other person says. The Moon is a very needy part within ourselves, and may find itself unnourished continuously, all the time, and may feel itself guilty. All kinds of patterns might have arisen in this lifetime stemming from a sense of guilt (in fact, the guilt is from the commitment we made to ourselves at the end of that past life), so a person with Moon/Saturn might find itself continuously in situations where it takes responsibility for other persons (mothering others, in fact, mothering our own mother even), feeling undeserving of any attention him/herself, and only deserving attention and love when it would take up this responsibility. Such a person might in fact get many messages that he or she is loved, or it might find rejection time upon time again, no matter how hard he/she tries. In both cases, it doesn't matter, the need for approval will not be fulfilled. For the simple reason that this is not Saturn's function in the birthchart. Saturn will never operate as approval from external authorities, it IS SATURN's FUNCTION to make us turn within, to become our own inner authority, and to learn to approve ourselves. Yet, ultimately this may be even more difficult.

Link: http://www.astrologie.ws/satmoon.htm

Saturn Aspecting the Moon: Can give a mother who is efficient, but a little distant emotionally. This is especially true of the stress aspects. As is always the case with Saturn, the good effect of these aspects is to make you work hard and prepare for the worst, which, you are sure, is just around the corner. Lighten up already! Keep repeating to yourself over and over again: "It's IMPRACTICAL to be miserable".

Link: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/aspectsaturn.htm<BR>
Master of defense. Gaining mastery over emotional responses. Learning how to make your own happiness. Learning how to make your own joy. Learning how to emotionally fulfill yourself. Learning how to take care of yourself. Learning how to meet your own needs. Learning how to cope with depression. The amount you felt your father cared. An emotional father. Fluctuating feelings about responsibility. Fluctuating feelings about structure and authority. Fluctuating feelings about discipline and hard work. Feeling okay with hard work. A sensitive authority figure. A sensitive father. A defensive stance. Lack of joy. Emotional repression. Feeling okay with rules and regulations that support emotional response and expression. Comfortable not showing emotion. Happy in a position of authority. Disciplined habits. Disciplined activities bring happiness. Surmounting obstacles brings happiness. Achievement brings happiness. Having an intuitive sense of time.

Link: http://astrofix.net/2010/06/21/moonsaturn-aspects-brainstorm/#.VAlSwcVdWn8

As a child, the Moon/Saturn person felt that love and acceptance from their parents was based on achievement (Saturn). The family??s social position might have been tied to the child??s actions. Perhaps the mother lived out her desire for status through the Moon/Saturn person. This is an adult burden for a child to carry. It lead to the certainty that love had to be earned. At the same time, they feel that they will never be good enough to earn it.
For the Moon/Saturn person, the pattern of stoically holding back then overwhelming a partner with their needs can be broken. Their task is to develop their own emotional resources and become their own parent. Saturn??s protection has (ironically) prevented them from developing a thick skin. Only by taking risks and consistently exposing themselves to intimacy will they be able to develop true maturity. This will mean opening up to someone and not shutting down the moment things go awry.

Link: http://sasstrology.com/2012/04/the-crab-in-the-iron-shell-hard-aspects-between-the-natal-moon-and-saturn.html<BR>

Posted by Hotbeefy
Do you guys also have eating disorder?

Does stuffing your face with whatever tastes good, regardless of how healthy it is for you count?