The Lady Scorpio
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Are you his/her Soul Mate? Top Six Clues.
Moving beyond planets and the Ascendant, there are some additional astrological clues for possible soul mate relationships. First, if one person's nodes are prominent in another person's chart, this is significant. Examples would be if the nodes of one person were square the nodes of the other person, if the nodes of one person were along the other person's Ascendant/Descendant, if the nodes of one person were conjunct/opposite/square the Sun or Moon of the other person.
Secondly, the Vertex is often used with synastry (chart comparison). If one person's Vertex makes a hard aspect to a planet or angle of the other person, this is a strong indicator of a karmic relationship, although not necessarily a soul mate one.
Thirdly, if the two persons have their angles square one another, this is a strong point of synastry. For instance, if one person's Ascendant/Descant is square the other person's Ascendant/Descendant, or if one person's Ascendant/Descendant is conjunct the other person's Midheaven/IC, then this is a strong karmic indicator, usually a Soul mate one of some kind.
Another indicator, one not commonly discussed, would be a similarity of pattern. In astrology, we talk about patterns that the planets make in a chart. Such patterns are called bowls, buckets, kites, yods, and so forth. If two persons have similar patterns and if those patterns have similar distinguishing marks, that could be a good indication of soul mate probability. For instance, for one soul mate couple that I know, both persons had a kite in their charts. Kites consist of a Grand Trine (three trines), and then an opposition to one corner of the trine which sextiles to the other two corners. The end result is a pattern that looks like a kite. Kites are not very common, and for two people to both have kites in a relationship made me sit up a bit straighter. Then I kept looking. Both of the Grand Trines were in Air signs, although the planets were not the same nor were the houses. Finally, both Kites had the same planet as the opposing planet. Thus, not only did the two people have the same pattern, but both patterns shared two strong distinguishing features.
Secondly, the Vertex is often used with synastry (chart comparison). If one person's Vertex makes a hard aspect to a planet or angle of the other person, this is a strong indicator of a karmic relationship, although not necessarily a soul mate one.
Thirdly, if the two persons have their angles square one another, this is a strong point of synastry. For instance, if one person's Ascendant/Descant is square the other person's Ascendant/Descendant, or if one person's Ascendant/Descendant is conjunct the other person's Midheaven/IC, then this is a strong karmic indicator, usually a Soul mate one of some kind.
Another indicator, one not commonly discussed, would be a similarity of pattern. In astrology, we talk about patterns that the planets make in a chart. Such patterns are called bowls, buckets, kites, yods, and so forth. If two persons have similar patterns and if those patterns have similar distinguishing marks, that could be a good indication of soul mate probability. For instance, for one soul mate couple that I know, both persons had a kite in their charts. Kites consist of a Grand Trine (three trines), and then an opposition to one corner of the trine which sextiles to the other two corners. The end result is a pattern that looks like a kite. Kites are not very common, and for two people to both have kites in a relationship made me sit up a bit straighter. Then I kept looking. Both of the Grand Trines were in Air signs, although the planets were not the same nor were the houses. Finally, both Kites had the same planet as the opposing planet. Thus, not only did the two people have the same pattern, but both patterns shared two strong distinguishing features.
Yet one more indicator might be that the Part of Marriage for one person falls upon a significant placement of another person's chart. The Part of Marriage is calculated by adding the Ascendant to the Descendant and then subtracting Venus. Some astrologers also use the Parts of Fascination and Karma when looking for Soul mate connections. The Part of Fascination is calculated by adding the Ascendant and Venus and then subtracting Uranus. The Part of Karma is calculated by Adding the Ascendant to Saturn and subtracting the Sun. (It helps to convert the signs to 360 degree equivalents when doing this sort of work or having your computer program calculate these parts for you.)
I'm writing all of this off the top of my head, not from prepared notes or a text, so I'm sure that I'm leaving out some significant soul mate indicators. However, this is enough for even an astrological novice to see that there is no one definitive marker of soul mates in astrological charts. If you and another person share several of these features between your charts, chances are that you are soul mates. However, remember that not even soul mate relationships exist happily ever after without a great deal of work and effort. Good luck, best wishes, and happy hunting.
copyright 1999, Nina Lee Braden
I'm writing all of this off the top of my head, not from prepared notes or a text, so I'm sure that I'm leaving out some significant soul mate indicators. However, this is enough for even an astrological novice to see that there is no one definitive marker of soul mates in astrological charts. If you and another person share several of these features between your charts, chances are that you are soul mates. However, remember that not even soul mate relationships exist happily ever after without a great deal of work and effort. Good luck, best wishes, and happy hunting.
copyright 1999, Nina Lee Braden
I am a Cap with a Scorp moon and Cap in Venus and Mercury and
he is a Scorp with Cap moon and Scorp in Venus and Mercury but we don't have many conjunctions, they are mostly out of orb.
he is a Scorp with Cap moon and Scorp in Venus and Mercury but we don't have many conjunctions, they are mostly out of orb.
Posted by sugariesPosted by capgirl69
I am a Cap with a Scorp moon and Cap in Venus and Mercury and
he is a Scorp with Cap moon and Scorp in Venus and Mercury but we don't have many conjunctions, they are mostly out of orb.
That's so cool. Do you have mars/venus aspects? I can't see your pic.click to expand
No, we don't. He has Mars in Aqua and I have Mars in Sagittarius.
here is what the pic shows:
Capgirl69 Aspect Mr.Scorp Orb/Value
Sun Sextile Sun 0.51 378
Sun Sextile Midheaven 1.28 26
Moon Sextile Neptune 1.40 51
Mercury Sextile Mercury 1.58 81
Mars Sextile Mars 1.15 66
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1.43 102
Jupiter Trine Sun 0.07 135
Jupiter Trine Venus 2.29 66
Jupiter Conjunction Jupiter 1.14 117
Jupiter Conjunction Midheaven 0.30 54
Saturn Trine Sun 1.07 103
Saturn Trine Venus 3.43 47
Saturn Trine Jupiter 2.28 51
Saturn Trine Midheaven 1.44 26
Uranus Sextile Neptune 1.47 31
Neptune Square Jupiter 2.22 -65
Neptune Conjunction Saturn 1.36 84
Pluto Sextile Saturn 0.15 53
Pluto Square Ascendant 2.37 -56
1471 -121 1350
Posted by BalmyTigressPosted by capgirl69
We have these:
Where did you get that, because all I get from astro.com is the chart and I can't read it. I'd rather have everything in written form.click to expand
Cafe astrology. You do your birthchart, then scroll to the very bottom of the screen. it says "Add a second person-compatibility."
I can not see your picture either capgirl 😢
Wow, what synastry.
How does it feel, is there a specific chemistry/connection/understanding?
It is good to share more trines and sextiles than conjunctions, considering the latter is a hard aspect, it is overall much more harmonious though it raises a question...is it too peaceful at times, to the point of no distinction to keep one interested or that is the continual effort and work you both have to put in?
Wow, what synastry.
How does it feel, is there a specific chemistry/connection/understanding?
It is good to share more trines and sextiles than conjunctions, considering the latter is a hard aspect, it is overall much more harmonious though it raises a question...is it too peaceful at times, to the point of no distinction to keep one interested or that is the continual effort and work you both have to put in?
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
I can not see your picture either capgirl 😢
Wow, what synastry.
How does it feel, is there a specific chemistry/connection/understanding?
It is good to share more trines and sextiles than conjunctions, considering the latter is a hard aspect, it is overall much more harmonious though it raises a question...is it too peaceful at times, to the point of no distinction to keep one interested or that is the continual effort and work you both have to put in?
Well, it is very easy. Too easy for the Scorp, I think, seemed too good to be true, so he was looking for a fight for awhile. But now we have had a little more angst with him moving in, not sure if he likes it though. lol. Because he was like, "For all this time we never fought, then I move in, and you fight with me."
It is never boring though. We both are the type to get up and go and do different things, so I am never bored.
I feel like I have known him all my life, and I have felt that way since the minute I met him. I am strongly attracted to him, we have great chemistry, fell in love with him the second date.
Scorp72 Aspect Mr Bull Orb/Value
Sun Opposition Sun 0.14 -466
Sun Trine Mars 2.02 119
Moon Trine Mercury 1.00 168
Moon Sextile Jupiter 1.53 64
Moon Sextile Neptune 0.07 85
Mercury Opposition Mercury 0.09 105
Mercury Trine Jupiter 0.44 97
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 1.02 119
Venus Opposition Jupiter 3.32 -54
Venus Square Saturn 1.21 -113
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1.16 107
Jupiter Square Pluto 0.23 -93
Neptune Opposition Moon 3.17 -52
Pluto Trine Moon 2.26 56
Pluto Square Venus 1.01 -95
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 3.12 54
974 -873 101
Explain—
Sun Opposition Sun 0.14 -466
Sun Trine Mars 2.02 119
Moon Trine Mercury 1.00 168
Moon Sextile Jupiter 1.53 64
Moon Sextile Neptune 0.07 85
Mercury Opposition Mercury 0.09 105
Mercury Trine Jupiter 0.44 97
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 1.02 119
Venus Opposition Jupiter 3.32 -54
Venus Square Saturn 1.21 -113
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1.16 107
Jupiter Square Pluto 0.23 -93
Neptune Opposition Moon 3.17 -52
Pluto Trine Moon 2.26 56
Pluto Square Venus 1.01 -95
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 3.12 54
974 -873 101
Explain—
Posted by capgirl69Posted by TheLadyScorpio
I can not see your picture either capgirl 😢
Wow, what synastry.
How does it feel, is there a specific chemistry/connection/understanding?
It is good to share more trines and sextiles than conjunctions, considering the latter is a hard aspect, it is overall much more harmonious though it raises a question...is it too peaceful at times, to the point of no distinction to keep one interested or that is the continual effort and work you both have to put in?
Well, it is very easy. Too easy for the Scorp, I think, seemed too good to be true, so he was looking for a fight for awhile. But now we have had a little more angst with him moving in, not sure if he likes it though. lol. Because he was like, "For all this time we never fought, then I move in, and you fight with me."
It is never boring though. We both are the type to get up and go and do different things, so I am never bored.
I feel like I have known him all my life, and I have felt that way since the minute I met him. I am strongly attracted to him, we have great chemistry, fell in love with him the second date.click to expand
Ohh, so much to respond to and write, will be back...would love to do a little analysis, that is if you capgirl, wouldn't mind?
🙂
Posted by Scorpio72
Scorp72 Aspect Mr Bull Orb/Value
Sun Opposition Sun 0.14 -466
Sun Trine Mars 2.02 119
Moon Trine Mercury 1.00 168
Moon Sextile Jupiter 1.53 64
Moon Sextile Neptune 0.07 85
Mercury Opposition Mercury 0.09 105
Mercury Trine Jupiter 0.44 97
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 1.02 119
Venus Opposition Jupiter 3.32 -54
Venus Square Saturn 1.21 -113
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1.16 107
Jupiter Square Pluto 0.23 -93
Neptune Opposition Moon 3.17 -52
Pluto Trine Moon 2.26 56
Pluto Square Venus 1.01 -95
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 3.12 54
974 -873 101
Explain—
I don't know much about aspects, but there is something with the score at the end. We had a thread about it that sneaky created, not sure if he is still here or if that thread is still around.
Your final score is 101. I think it is degrees minus the squares or something. That is not the worst number I have seen, some people did them and wound up in the negative numbers.
you have a few squares and oppositions, and those are challenging aspects though I don't know what your specific ones mean.
My ex-Gem and I got a 450 when I did it, and it was a very tumultuous relationship. These are the squares/oppositions we had. Very difficult. Lasted 13 years. We still are friends, as much as we can be, more for our kid's sake.
-70 Opposition Mercury - Neptune
Negative aspect: This relationship can only bring illusions, and therefore also disappointments will follow. These two people can never understand each other and if they insist on living together, it will be with lies and deception.
-67 Opposition Venus - Mars
Negative aspect: A love that is particularly based on physical understanding, a passionate love with all its negative sides: possessiveness, jealousy, aggressiveness. Such a union is unlikely to last, but if it does, there are a lot of hurt feelings and stormy confrontations. The sexual attraction is especially strong at the beginning, but disagreements often have a major impact on the sex life. They end up on opposite ends of the couch frequently.
-121 Square Venus - Jupiter
Negative aspect: A life together that can be very challenging at times on an intellectual level. Intellectual misunderstandings, diametrically opposed tastes, different ideas
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by capgirl69Posted by TheLadyScorpio
I can not see your picture either capgirl 😢
Wow, what synastry.
How does it feel, is there a specific chemistry/connection/understanding?
It is good to share more trines and sextiles than conjunctions, considering the latter is a hard aspect, it is overall much more harmonious though it raises a question...is it too peaceful at times, to the point of no distinction to keep one interested or that is the continual effort and work you both have to put in?
Well, it is very easy. Too easy for the Scorp, I think, seemed too good to be true, so he was looking for a fight for awhile. But now we have had a little more angst with him moving in, not sure if he likes it though. lol. Because he was like, "For all this time we never fought, then I move in, and you fight with me."
It is never boring though. We both are the type to get up and go and do different things, so I am never bored.
I feel like I have known him all my life, and I have felt that way since the minute I met him. I am strongly attracted to him, we have great chemistry, fell in love with him the second date.
Ohh, so much to respond to and write, will be back...would love to do a little analysis, that is if you capgirl, wouldn't mind?
🙂click to expand
Do it! I'm excited to hear what you have to say.
OOOOO, can I have a little analsys too?? Pretty please— 🙂
Capgirl, thank you for your interpretation. 🙂
Capgirl, thank you for your interpretation. 🙂
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Close contacts between one person's Sun and another person's Ascendant are also strong indicators of Soul mate possibilities. Conjunctions are strongest with squares and oppositions also strong.
Contacts between one person's Mars and another person's Venus are also very important in romantic and/or sexual relationships. (These would not be as significant in non-romantic or non-sexual soul mates, often called soul brothers or soul sisters.)
Sun/Mars and Sun/Venus contacts, and Venus/Venus contacts and Moon/Moon contacts and Sun/Sun contacts can also be important, although possibly not as strong as the previously mentioned contacts. Again, the hard aspects of conjunction, square, and opposition seem to carry more weight than trines and sextiles.
Sometimes Sun/Neptune contacts are indicators of soul mate relationships although many astrologers don't seem to say much about this one when discussing soul mates. At the very least, Sun/Neptune contacts indicate a feeling of merging into each other, which can be quite exhilarating. Often it is hard to tell where one person ends and the other person begins. The two people frequently have a strong psychic connection as well as a other types of connections.