Astrology mind...does it help or hinder?

I read it so much that I can almost visualise it completely when I discover what someones sign is. Every little gesture and response to their environment...almost like I am watching the sign itself rather than an individual and I wonder if this is screwing with my ability to meet people the way mother nature intended...

Any thoughts?

I firmly believe it is half and half. Half astro and half psychology. The "nature and nurture"... I suppose what unnerves me is that there almost is a way of predicting the outcome of a relationship...atleast I think there is with hopes of not living out self fulfilling prophecies. I don't want to say that it is stuck this way, but at the same time I can't help but want to know in order for self preservation, or if there is truly a structure to what we think is totally random or unpredictable. Though I think it is a trait of being a Cancer with an incredibly curious Gemini mind that I am fixated on such meaningless puzzle.

Well spoken.

I don't know how to feel about it, I think of it as a door way for some NLP sometimes. My focus in any conversation in the past when I began diving into this inquiry was just more of a way to always have smooth conversations and speak every individuals "language"; like pressing all the right buttons...but then I met someone and it was something I thought I always wanted...the signs were a great match for Sun, Moon and Rising...but the relationship was a disaster. Everything was knocked a bit off kilter in my observance and then I just began to pine for the past way of thinking...where I could not see what I now believe to see; also torn by thinking about the theory of self fulfilling prophecy. I had a great more appreciation for psychology afterwards and the nurture part.

I have been doing feild studies for years by finding out peoples signs somehow and then pressing the record button for gestures and actions during certain conversation. Small references in what I believed the person could be interested through the knowledge I had gained from my readings. I found that the similarities were strikingly accurate in the sense of interests I viewed and had read.

The sign is still quite hypnotizing with their eyes...grrr... xP

Interesting thread...

I'd be lying if I said that my knowledge of astrology & of how each sign is "supposed to act" hasn't affected my perspectives of how I see/understand certain people of different signs.

I completely get what you're trying to say. When I see a Cancer being emotional, it's almost like I'm identifying that person as a cancer vs. Jane Doe (who they really are). When I see Aquas being intellectual, I start expecting for them to think/act/behave like other "Typical Aquas" do too, even if the Aqua I'm talking to has NO other traits associated with Aquarians. Same with Scorps. When I see Scorps being vindictive, I laugh a little & say to myself, "Yep, that's the typical Scorpio"

Whereas before when I'd see a Libra giving in to others, I may not have been as understanding as I am now, now that I've researched Libras & understand a lot more how they tick.

So to an extent, studying astrology has actually HELPED me in understanding more thoroughly others vs. the other way around

I think it comes down to not allowing astrology to completely influence your perspective of someone. While someone may act like their sign, we must remember that there are always 100 other dimensions to that person's personality that astrology doesn't influence or can explain.

For some, once they research astrology, they see every human creature as a mere astrological sign. To others, they allow astrology to slightly influence them.

Posted by splitnconfused
Interesting CancerGemini..Am I sensing some skepticism coming from you? Looking at astrology as a possible doorway to understanding human behavior might be just the right thing to do..embracing it as an all-encompassing answer could however lead to some disappointment which is why giving nature and nurture an equal weight might ultimately be the answer.

From a practical and probably shallow point of view, I've noticed that I don't do too well in relationships with men and women who share my own sun sign (In my case: Leo and Virgo but more so Leo). What I believe happens is that I don't particularly enjoy seeing in them those characteristics I see in myself..the evil twin thing..On the other hand I've noticed that I don't do so well either with my opposite sign: Aquarius. Basically, I should avoid complementary and opposing signs, the 2 extremes.
I've noticed that I do best with air and earth signs, something about this mix of intellectual orientation and practicality..

Being an emotional sign like a Cancer, I feel life so much more than I simply intellectualize it. Stepping back from it and just analyzing what I feel is more of a task than anything else because my comfort zone is so incredibly influenced from the slightest environmental shift, macro or micro (sometimes the more subtle the more the echoing vibration sends messages through my nervous system.) I always wondered if there was a way I could "feed" off of someone the perfect blend of energies and have a sort of a mechanically flawless repore with my energies to where I could be me and not even worry (to a great extent) about much and things would just work out due to the chemistry. Now I am more than certain that this cannot be just by astrology due to the influence of psychological developement during up bringing. How it must be both, which makes the lottery numbers to guess that much abundant.


What I have stumbled on are the vibes that signs give off...which leads me to a very interesting attraction and desire template that my mind goes by. Not simply by looks, but by energy output. Examples: The sweet and steadfast comfort that a Taurus exudes. The raw and extremely intense and intoxicating feeling I get from the "open" glance of a Scorpio not enshrowded in there mist of strength and fearlessness. The carefree and witty energies exuded from a Libran, (though the abi

Posted by splitnconfused
Interesting CancerGemini..Am I sensing some skepticism coming from you? Looking at astrology as a possible doorway to understanding human behavior might be just the right thing to do..embracing it as an all-encompassing answer could however lead to some disappointment which is why giving nature and nurture an equal weight might ultimately be the answer.

From a practical and probably shallow point of view, I've noticed that I don't do too well in relationships with men and women who share my own sun sign (In my case: Leo and Virgo but more so Leo). What I believe happens is that I don't particularly enjoy seeing in them those characteristics I see in myself..the evil twin thing..On the other hand I've noticed that I don't do so well either with my opposite sign: Aquarius. Basically, I should avoid complementary and opposing signs, the 2 extremes.
I've noticed that I do best with air and earth signs, something about this mix of intellectual orientation and practicality..

Being an emotional sign like a Cancer, I feel life so much more than I simply intellectualize it. Stepping back from it and just analyzing what I feel is more of a task than anything else because my comfort zone is so incredibly influenced from the slightest environmental shift, macro or micro (sometimes the more subtle the more the echoing vibration sends messages through my nervous system.) I always wondered if there was a way I could "feed" off of someone the perfect blend of energies and have a sort of a mechanically flawless repore with my energies to where I could be me and not even worry (to a great extent) about much and things would just work out due to the chemistry. Now I am more than certain that this cannot be just by astrology due to the influence of psychological developement during up bringing. How it must be both, which makes the lottery numbers to guess that much abundant.


What I have stumbled on are the vibes that signs give off...which leads me to a very interesting attraction and desire template that my mind goes by. Not simply by looks, but by energy output. Examples: The sweet and steadfast comfort that a Taurus exudes. The raw and extremely intense and intoxicating feeling I get from the "open" glance of a Scorpio not enshrowded in there mist of strength and fearlessness. The carefree and witty energies exuded from a Libran, (though the abi

the ability to dettach so easily mid stride in an emotional setting will always leave me reeling).

I learned so that I could be not just choosey about my chemistry, but almost exact...which I only find the deeper I go the greater the puzzle becomes. I want to sink my feelers into someone and absorb the energies I crave, but not have to worry about the bad. How much I project my share of "the problem" for myself in these relationships I also wonder, but my intuition is pretty dead on and I trust my emotions greatly...they are so accurate, when not jumbled and overwhelmed by emotional turmoil.

If I am going to feel so much, why not try to feel what I want to feel...exactly what I want...

Splitnconfused...yeah. This is my conundrum.

It would seem that my intentions and desires contradict each other a bit. How I long for something that could quite possibly be impossible simply because I am asking to "have my cake and eat it too". It is simply being such a sensitive person. Too feel so much is hard to deal with, I suppose because I am naturally so empathetic and sympathetic...leading me to want good energies for all and myself.

I don't envy you...but I do desire your ability to logically take control of your emotions. I seem to be caught up in the idea that there is a way to control the world around me to feel how I want to feel in the center. I suppose this seems a bit egocentric...

Posted by CancerGemini
I read it so much that I can almost visualise it completely when I discover what someones sign is. Every little gesture and response to their environment...almost like I am watching the sign itself rather than an individual and I wonder if this is screwing with my ability to meet people the way mother nature intended...

Any thoughts?

helps greatly

you need to use it as a preliminary

then you test your hypothesis

its all about probability and tendency

it will hinder you if you assume and dont test what characteristics are valid

I think you need to learn more about astrology because it's not that "people are their signs". Astrology isn't a reason why someone is someway so much as an explanation for why someone might do something.

people are so much more than sun sign.

There's 8 other planets that also play a role in who you are as well the the nodes of the moon. there's also asteroids that can take affect in a chart if they have a heavy aspect to personal planets or are prominently placed in a chart.

then there are house placements which is equally important.

where your planets fall in those houses and how they interact with rulers is another thing as well.

then there are aspects in a natal chart that can severely change how a person would be perceived or act. a person with saturn conjunct the ascendant would be responsible almost to a fault, maybe a little somber and on the serious side. a person who has sun opposition to saturn would come off as pushy and have a problem with authority figures, or someone trying to "boss" them around.

the big dosey would be transits - these can take place over several years or just a few months and they can be life altering or "just another day".

this is just in regards to one person and themselves - things get more complicated when you are looking at synastry between friends, couples, family members or coworkers.

Posted by CancerGemini
I read it so much that I can almost visualise it completely when I discover what someones sign is. Every little gesture and response to their environment...almost like I am watching the sign itself rather than an individual and I wonder if this is screwing with my ability to meet people the way mother nature intended...

Any thoughts?

I usually give myself one month to get to know a person before I ask their sign. Else it's gunna be cheating; taking the easy way out. When I find myself exasperated with someone, and I find out their chart dileneations, then I heave a sigh of relief because I finally can let go and understand why, and then learn to appreciate them.

The danger is when people use it for manipulation of others. Personally, I am passive and don't use others for personal gain, so they are protected. I meet very strange people because the more stuff are unlocked, the more you see.

Once you have an a $ trology mind, you don't actually go back to being normal..
.. pandora's box 🙂

i wouldn't think it hinders, cuz ultimately knowledge is power, and you are right on the half and half thing, their sign can describe how they feel about something, but how they choose to react or handle it is based on the individual so it could go both ways. personally, i wouldn't worry about it. as long as you stay smart about it it should be fine.