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i think caps are naturally prone to depression, in the way that depression is understood, being that they have quite a gloomy & pessimistic outlook, naturally. or realistic/cynical.

my cap friend had depression at a young age, now she's been diagnosed with bpd & bipolar. my two cap brothers have wicked senses of humour, but they are prone to bouts of being very depressed, deeper than your usual 'blues' or feeling down and out.

thought your question was interesting, would like to know if there's a link between mental disorders and zodiac signs. it's probably hard to call, given the different influences that make up a birth chart.
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Posted by splitnconfused
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i think caps are naturally prone to depression, in the way that depression is understood, being that they have quite a gloomy & pessimistic outlook, naturally. or realistic/cynical.



I agree with you. My mom's a cap and she's been popping pills for as long as I can remember. I don't think she's bipolar though but I know she suffers from serious anxiety. I often hear that saggies are prone to bipolar disorder. I also wonder if there's a link between mental disorders and zodiac signs..sometimes I feel like everyone I run into has some type of mental disorder or has had one at some point in their lives.
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stats over here in the uk say 1 in 3 people have a mental illness...more than the number of people with dandruff. i myself have bipolar. that's interesting about sags, my dad had bipolar too.

they're not even sure if it's genetic, a response to stress/trauma or a chemical imbalance in the brain. or all three. that to me suggests that humans are unpredictable...trying to define human behaviour with medical labels is a fool's game. i know quite a few people who are a couple degrees from the bipolar 'type' and they haven't been diagnosed, lol. not even close 😛
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*sigh* aquas and caps just do not get along. I have a bipolar aqua uncle and bipolar sag aunt. The caps I know suffer from depression.

Btw, I want to hear some examples of these crazy caps. Like what is your mom or the other cap women you know doing?

ellybd, I definitely live in my own world and I associate my lack of being in-touch with reality to my pisces lilith. Maybe it is more of a cap thing?! Who knows, but I see what you are saying as I can very well relate to dismissing facts. I'm actually a Cap that refuses to deal with facts and rely on my own perception and the way I see things/what I believe/what I feel.

My life is 10X slower and harder because I live in my world, and I find myself on a mission to understand it from my intuition and perception of it, and its more on a spiritual level, which again makes it hard for me to care about facts. On more than one occasion I've formed my own conclusion on something and I've run across my thoughts in various ways hinting that I'm on a path that may not be so far off. I'm just coming to it all at my own time.

I think some of us Cappies take a different approach to tackling life. Its a slower approach, maybe even crazier, but yeah, all I do is rely on myself and a higher power. Maybe its a bit different with the Caps you mention, but this is personally why I'm a bit out of touch with reality.
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I have my days i just need my space.
I have my days i think too much.
I have my days i feel too much.
I have my days where I just love too much.

I have the ability to live and let live.
I have the ability to change what doesn't work.
I have the ability to let go and move on quickly.
I go and go and do and do for others, and sometimes it becomes just too much.

Its not bi-polar to be loving and giving, yet (bitchy) and stand up for yourself when needed.

Caps are givers and doers to others. And yes we expect the same in return but rarely receive it.

We're the Mothers/Fathers of the zodiac and often misunderstood...
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Posted by capbaby
I have my days i just need my space.
I have my days i think too much.
I have my days i feel too much.
I have my days where I just love too much.

I have the ability to live and let live.
I have the ability to change what doesn't work.
I have the ability to let go and move on quickly.
I go and go and do and do for others, and sometimes it becomes just too much.

Its not bi-polar to be loving and giving, yet (bitchy) and stand up for yourself when needed.

Caps are givers and doers to others. And yes we expect the same in return but rarely receive it.

We're the Mothers/Fathers of the zodiac and often misunderstood...

amen...but most importantly by us bein in these modes like we do ah we could get a check for bipolar disorder, really i was told that i am a character and i could go be an actress because i am always playin a role, (told by a virgo ) which is really crazy to me because im like really really you gone be a discion maker on me(get the fuck outta here )
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Posted by nimbue
thought your question was interesting, would like to know if there's a link between mental disorders and zodiac signs. it's probably hard to call, given the different influences that make up a birth chart.



thx for the input. n i read somewhere that majority of people in mental institutions r air signs & that pisces n other water signs r prone to alcoholism n r often admitted into rehab. idk if it's true but thought it was interesting too. it sounds like it could b true!
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Posted by splitnconfused

I agree with you. My mom's a cap and she's been popping pills for as long as I can remember. I don't think she's bipolar though but I know she suffers from serious anxiety. I often hear that saggies are prone to bipolar disorder. I also wonder if there's a link between mental disorders and zodiac signs..sometimes I feel like everyone I run into has some type of mental disorder or has had one at some point in their lives.



heeey my mom pops pills too lol. wonder if that's a serious connection or jst a coincidence lol
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Posted by KittyKnitter
depression and bipolar happens in every sign. chemical imbalances can be treated. there shouldn't be a stigma attached to it but there is. there is a genetic predisposition. we all have extremes at one time or another and sometimes we need help coping. it's only human to have highs and lows. if you think of it as crazy, then it's healthier to be crazy than sane, who can be completely sane in a world like ours?who would want to?



all i heard was "blah-blah-blah. blah-blah-blah-blah." lol
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Posted by ellybd
I just posted about this on a thread on this board a few weeks ago lol. I had rough data from my work where I put down illness related by sign.

Caps that come in tend to have high levels of non-schizophrenic psychosis denotation. That meaning that they are absorbed in their own reality that doesn't coincide with real life. They don't really know how to relate to cope with stress in life and they can't see what's in front of them clearly. You can try to speak to them with facts but they will absolutely refute it using their own emotions and cold fact. It's rather strange. It's like their emotional perception of life becomes their reality, but in a COMPLETELY non-emotional sort of way.

Not to say this is all caps, of course not. Some of our best therapists at the hospital are actually Caps.



that was interesting. thx
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Posted by lnana04
*sigh* aquas and caps just do not get along. I have a bipolar aqua uncle and bipolar sag aunt. The caps I know suffer from depression.

Btw, I want to hear some examples of these crazy caps. Like what is your mom or the other cap women you know doing?

ellybd, I definitely live in my own world and I associate my lack of being in-touch with reality to my pisces lilith. Maybe it is more of a cap thing?! Who knows, but I see what you are saying as I can very well relate to dismissing facts. I'm actually a Cap that refuses to deal with facts and rely on my own perception and the way I see things/what I believe/what I feel.

My life is 10X slower and harder because I live in my world, and I find myself on a mission to understand it from my intuition and perception of it, and its more on a spiritual level, which again makes it hard for me to care about facts. On more than one occasion I've formed my own conclusion on something and I've run across my thoughts in various ways hinting that I'm on a path that may not be so far off. I'm just coming to it all at my own time.

I think some of us Cappies take a different approach to tackling life. Its a slower approach, maybe even crazier, but yeah, all I do is rely on myself and a higher power. Maybe its a bit different with the Caps you mention, but this is personally why I'm a bit out of touch with reality.



i agree caps & aquas def don't get along. in my experience (n front wut i've read in astro reports), caps like to dominate, give orders, and r traditional; aquas r rebellious, hate rules, and r unorthodox. complete opposites! i actually wud like to refrain from sharing my mom's crazy antics in depth. it's kind of personal but is basically just a LONG, laundry list of crazy sh*t she's done that wasn't justified @ all. she can jst b physically, verbally, and mentally out of her mind and will lash out on someone when it isn't their fault @ all. kind of like a bully. but a deranged one lol.

n e way, by reading ur comment about how u "refuse to deal w/ facts" makes sense to me. im all about facts and knowledge n one of the major things my mom & i argue about r things based on facts. she makes decisions that aren't supported by facts or common sense which is mind-boggling to me b/c it doesn't make sense! no offense, but i feel like 1 similar thing about aquas & caps is they act like know-it-alls. however, t
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*cough* in case n e one wud like to rebuttle the above comment, other astrology reports support that theory lol:

"Capricorns are typically too busy trying to accomplish their goals that they often miss out on the truth of the matter. They avoid all and any ways of foolish thinking. An Aquarius is typically doing what they want. A lot of times the Aquarius does seems foolish to Capricorn, but there are often original and genius and that's what Capricorn needs to remember. The Capricorn is very critical of the Aquarius. They disregard the theories of an Aquarius as foolish delusion dreams. In all actuality everything the Aquarius does is based on fact. Aquarius actually wins the brains in this duo. The Capricorn is just better mannered."
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Posted by leilaxxlovez
Wow..this is really interesting...

my sister and friend suffer from depression, both virgos....and another close friend of mine is bipolar...also a virgo...
I did notice that we (caps) have this tendency to create a bubble around us, and whatever does'nt fit in, gets chucked out and ignored...
may be Im like that?? Idk...but yeah...



maybe an earth sign thing then? hmmm...
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Posted by capbaby
I have my days i just need my space.
I have my days i think too much.
I have my days i feel too much.
I have my days where I just love too much.

I have the ability to live and let live.
I have the ability to change what doesn't work.
I have the ability to let go and move on quickly.
I go and go and do and do for others, and sometimes it becomes just too much.

Its not bi-polar to be loving and giving, yet (bitchy) and stand up for yourself when needed.

Caps are givers and doers to others. And yes we expect the same in return but rarely receive it.

We're the Mothers/Fathers of the zodiac and often misunderstood...



i don't disagree w/ u. caps ARE good providers. i admire their ambition and drive to accomplish their goals.... but that's it 🙂 lol
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*cough* in case n e one wud like to rebuttle the above comment, other astrology reports support that theory lol:

"Capricorns are typically too busy trying to accomplish their goals that they often miss out on the truth of the matter. They avoid all and any ways of foolish thinking. An Aquarius is typically doing what they want. A lot of times the Aquarius does seems foolish to Capricorn, but there are often original and genius and that's what Capricorn needs to remember. The Capricorn is very critical of the Aquarius. They disregard the theories of an Aquarius as foolish delusion dreams. In all actuality everything the Aquarius does is based on fact. Aquarius actually wins the brains in this duo. The Capricorn is just better mannered."



An Aqua must have written that.

My Aquarius mother is quick on her feet, a very fast thinker, but I wouldn't say she makes the best decisions, at-least not financially. You know, that's what I think it is! I think her decisions with money are mind-boggling to me, while you the Aqua think your Capricorn mother decisions with everything else is weird?

My mother just broke up with a Capricorn that drove her crazy, and it was only a 2-3 month relationship lol, but she knows one thing, she can call on ALL of her Capricorn friends if she need financial help, and it's not that she really needs it cause she has money in other places, THANK goodness, but if I had the talent she had to make money I'd be a multi-millionaire. That's where we start to look at Aquas crazy, when it comes to money.


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Posted by lnana04
An Aqua must have written that.

My Aquarius mother is quick on her feet, a very fast thinker, but I wouldn't say she makes the best decisions, at-least not financially. You know, that's what I think it is! I think her decisions with money are mind-boggling to me, while you the Aqua think your Capricorn mother decisions with everything else is weird?

My mother just broke up with a Capricorn that drove her crazy, and it was only a 2-3 month relationship lol, but she knows one thing, she can call on ALL of her Capricorn friends if she need financial help, and it's not that she really needs it cause she has money in other places, THANK goodness, but if I had the talent she had to make money I'd be a multi-millionaire. That's where we start to look at Aquas crazy, when it comes to money.



Lol i kno right? i wouldn't be surprised if it was haha. funny cuz my story's opposite from urs. my mom always borrows money from me which is weird b/c she has lots in many diff venues. n i ws in relationship w/ a cap who told me i drove HIM crazy lol. but generally, i agree w/ the money thing tho. i think we jst hav a diff take on it that's all. its true aquas have the potential and talent to become mega rich -- but the reason y we don't is b/c it's not our main priority or concern in life. i can c y caps can find that crazy b/c that's wut THEY'RE all about -- but its just an opposite trait that's all. my ex begged me incessantly to join his business b/c i was good @ talking up all the customers. but i always refused cuz i jst wasnt into it.

i give props to caps for handling ther business tho b/c u guys ARE good @ making money. it's just not what we're all about that's all. money's important for personal means and comfort, but i could care less about trying to become famous or a multimillionaire. call it crazy bt that's y we ARE crazy n weird lol
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Sigh. I can't really list all of them so I'll stick to the lighter stuff -- she just guilts/shames everyone for everything, including for stuff she's made up (i.e. "not calling her back"...even though she's given me less than a day). She's convinced it's too dangerous to travel anywhere you can't get to by car (LOL), despite the fact that she refuses to drive anywhere, and so has steadfastly foiled our family's every chance to travel during the holidays. She is so frugal it's positively unsanitary -- she won't throw out disposable utensils and plates (yes, she does wash them) or even things like rice once the rodents have got to it (she tries to wash that too). She thinks underwear is an acceptable hand-me-down. The list goes on.
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Sigh. I can't really list all of them so I'll stick to the lighter stuff -- she just guilts/shames everyone for everything, including for stuff she's made up (i.e. "not calling her back"...even though she's given me less than a day). She's convinced it's too dangerous to travel anywhere you can't get to by car (LOL), despite the fact that she refuses to drive anywhere, and so has steadfastly foiled our family's every chance to travel during the holidays. She is so frugal it's positively unsanitary -- she won't throw out disposable utensils and plates (yes, she does wash them) or even things like rice once the rodents have got to it (she tries to wash that too). She thinks underwear is an acceptable hand-me-down. The list goes on.



Oh, wow! That's crazy to even read lol, but she reminds me of my aunt that we use to live with when we were younger so it brings back memories. My aunt was like that in a sense that she never threw anything away. She'd cook food then freeze it for like a year and cook it again whenever. She'd also buy my sister and I hand-me-down underwear smh lol. Your mom reminds me of her. Is your family large?
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She'd cook food then freeze it for like a year and cook it again whenever.



She does that too. She hates cooking, so her logic is to cook approx. a two years' supply t(hat nobody will enjoy having to finish), freeze it, and then be done cooking for two years. It's insane. I have a huge family. She has 11 brothers and sisters!
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Omg LoL. The size of the family is probably why she's as frugal as she is I'm thinking. That's crazy though, not a diss, but in a funny way. Brings back so many memories of my aunt. My aunt was also a hoarder looking back.
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Actually, all the Caps are know are the sanest, most stable people I've ever met. They make me feel like I just really need to get my shit together badly.



i agree w/ how they can make u feel like u need to get things 2gether. bcuz they do inspire me to be more goal-oriented like themselves. and i have adapted a lot responsibility traits b/c of them. but i think having them as a parental figure or a love interest is way way more different than having them as a friend. just like w/ n e other sign. ppl r always going to b diff w/ the diff kind of roles they play in ur life. i think having a cap "friend" is proly better than having them as a love interest or parent, but that's just my opinion 🙂
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My aunt was like that in a sense that she never threw anything away. She'd cook food then freeze it for like a year and cook it again whenever.
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That's my mom too (among her less severe psycho habits). Again, they're chronic hoarders and hate to throw things away. And she has no sense of food preservation. I read before that caps r slobs. My mom def is =P
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She'd cook food then freeze it for like a year and cook it again whenever.



She does that too. She hates cooking, so her logic is to cook approx. a two years' supply t(hat nobody will enjoy having to finish), freeze it, and then be done cooking for two years. It's insane. I have a huge family. She has 11 brothers and sisters!
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Lol im cracking up. How ironic how much alike these women r! My mom hates to cook and always instructs my sister to cook, BUT wen she does cook it's always horrible. i hate her cooking and she always insists its good yet she never tastes it b/c "i dont have to, i know it tastes good". smh n the freezing thing is just weird. i never eat her cooking lol
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Carpicorn is realist. And reason why we are prone to depression is because not everyone understands our responsibilities for order, mundane and spiritual mastery in completion. and the planetary ruler Saturn is strict to see this happen.
heavy tasks.

to us life on earth is not a feast thats why often we are the party pooper.

cry first and laugh later.



I get depressed too. I have alot of capricorn in me(earth) but at the same time, aqua is also ruled by saturn. I've read too that many astrologers niche aquas in two or few arenas: there's aquas who are traditionalists, just like capricorns and call them the saturn aquas, but still aquas. then there's the loopy doopy uranian aquas. Either way, i think they both go into depressive moods. Probably why cappys get the bad rap for depression is that, (even i understand it) the realities of life is pretty harsh. Difference is that caps need security so badly, to be "poor" is the greatest fear. You dont'have to be super rich but to have all the material accomodations in life and feel secure is something that a capricorn will fight to the death for. Similar with saturnian aquas. Interestingly enough i have several capricorn uncles and the only one who has a very happy marriage is considered the 'poorest' one in the family in terms of status. but his life is rich in terms of family and a good wife. It's as if you can't have it all. The ones that were chasing the mountaintops had horrible marriages.It's like the universe cannot and will not allow for an individual to have it all. And if the universe does, it will allow you to suffer in other ways: family and friends' death, never good enough in certain skills, and always competing. it's endless.

take care of your momma, aqua girl. have some empathy for her depressive moods.
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that was insightful n helped me understand a lot thx. it's hard sometimes b/c we naturally clash bt i'll try to bare w/ it
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Posted by 1urbanicblue
after my last post, it got me to thinking. That depression does happen to EVERY sign.

my sisters get depressed and they're fire signs, and the men in my family get depressed and they're not all caps.

depression hits everyone. no matter what.



i agree, but i do feel more than others. like i would think water signs are the most susceptible b/c they're so sensitive. air signs i feel are more emotionless (not necessarily a good think neither). that's just wut i think...
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Posted by Satrio
Some signs are prone to melancholy... but if you really talk about depression, influences in a social society contributes much more to that, especially where the material forces are strong. ofcourse also alcohol or drugs.
its silly to blame stress or depression on a zodiac sign.



i agree that society and certain circumstances influences depression. but i like to think that some signs b/c of ther personality traits are more likely to fall into it more than others. i could b wrong but just wut i think...
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Posted by 1urbanicblue
i need to rephrase that above:

I'm tired and it's late. My husband and I spent the evening with family and friends going out to dinner and then to a play. I'm up right now but i'm gonna fall down and knock myself out next to my sleeping man soon.
but what i want to express in my last post, was that it's so easy to pinpoint the blame on a chart, on a placement, and then get caught up in the bias of it. i've seen it happen over and over again. like a pattern and i'm also guilty of it too from my post here talking about capricorns - and i've seen cappys post it at their board too, saying it's because they have to face reality. it is true. but isn't it also true that all of us feel the same way but those who choose to ignore realities usually either do many of the following: take drugs, become an alcoholic, ect. the list goes on, so we ignore the world by drowning ourselves in the darkness. and alot of that is usually because of being in a dark environment. a very violent, or disturbing environment will feed that. a positive kind person will get eaten up in that dark world, even if it's in the place of your parents - if they are abusers, or verbally abusive. or if you see them constantly fighting each other. children grow up to see that and become disturbed and take pills, or ask doctors to give them meds for prozac or other. being a horrible environment will eat up any positive energy quickly. like a black hole.i'm too tired but i had an analogy but maybe when i'm clear i'll think of it and i doubt anyone will get what i mean cause i'm just blabbering. lol



i hear wut ur saying, but jst to clarify, im not hating or trying to call out caps and generalize that they're all depressive-prone (not yet anyway lol). it just happened to be a common trait ive observed, and wanting to know more about the sign, wanted to know if it happened to b a trait that caps do indeed possess. idk if that's true yet, but so far based on people's responses, i do understand the reasons y caps CAN become depressed. still researching lol
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Posted by ElusiveSoul
I am not so certain if my input is going to answer the question, nevertheless, I have come across a statistic published back in 2006 stating that 70% of inmates who are sociopaths/psychopaths were ether saggies or caps !!!!

Joke of the day was that pisces and scorps were as equally guilty of it, just smarter not to get caught. If by any chance scorp was close to get caught, they would rather choose to commit suicide,....hmmmm interesting !



Lol! That IS interesting. Hmmm.. lol
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Posted by aquarius21
does anyone know any caps that r bipolar or suffer from depression? i hav a cap mom who's seriously crazy, n ive been noticing it recently w/ other cap women n wanted to know if this might b a common zodiac trait or if its just a personal thing...


lol xD

Actually I remember my Cap friend saying she was on meds...you would never guess though! She's super outgoing, can start a convo with anyone with little effort, completely uninhibited and so popular, you'd never guess!!
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Posted by ElusiveSoul
Tho I'm still trying to wrap my head around that statement, narcissism, way I understand is not so much arrogance per se, but a manipulation and control of others in order to get a satisfactory feedback specially from the opposite sex (eg. love/adoration) without actually having genuine care in return. Narcissist would go to the extend of depriving their partners of physical attention untill their emotional needs are being met. It stems from deep seeded insecurities and only his/her feelings are that matter (well most of the time anyway). They constantly need reassurance and thus needing a partner whilst having a wondering eye 😉..... and list goes on
What I have come up with in my research, this fits the bill perfectly ! Just sayin
Hey, trust me I'm not bashing caps at all, as previously stated, pisces seem to have dependency/addiction issues....that's why caps and pisces are perfect yet toxic for each other. Not to mention that both seem to be living in their own twisted realities... 😛
And above all, by no means am I trying to put all signs/people in the same category.



To have a real genuine care takes a very long time, hence the slow pace. Really, all of what you've written sounds good, but there's more to the story. I don't even know all of it, but part of it is...there are billions of people on this earth, what makes you different? When Cap males get to analyzing someone they are trying to figure them out, see if you can stand alone and also stand out in some way. Despite the different personality types, or how people dress up their "uniqueness," the core is the same, and it makes people easy to categorize, which is boring. That's why women get put in boxes and categories by these men, and what started out as constant contact dwindles. He figures that your either going to say this, or say something you think he wants to hear. They figure out patterns easily, just as people figure out our patterns easily. I think they/we search for something a bit different from the norm. It's only manipulation/control if you let it become that, and if you do then there's the box you'll fit into, which is someone that's easy to manipulate. It may be entertaining for some Caps to a certain extent, but many don't seem to like having that control over their partners in the long-run. That's where the wandering eye probably comes from. They don't want anyone fighti
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They don't want anyone fighting against them for control either. All a Capricorn wants is someone that can be themselves and stand their ground always. They stand their ground, always, so to lean on someone as firm in their beliefs, views, and true to themselves is what they look for. At-least that's what I think.

It may seem like narcissism, because it is until those feelings develop. What the other person does in admiring them probably has nothing to do with them in their minds. It's almost as people expect that just because they feel something those feelings are suppose to be reciprocated. It doesn't work like that.
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