Cancer woman

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Hello. This is going to be a bit longer but bear with me. 🙂

There is a great cancer lady at work and we understand each other really good. We're both cancers, both in mid thirties and we are actually only four days apart regarding age.

We know each other about five moths and we started to spend more time chatting at work in the last two. She was asking a lot of personal questions about me and one day she started to touch me here and there. Not very often but enough to get me thinking.

When she went on a vacation she asked for my number so that she can text me for my birthday. In the last month we started talking more and more by text and in real life. She was always happy to spend time arround me, facing me with her body, coming closer to me ... All those flirting signs you can read.

There was also a lot of teasing both at texting and talking. Like she texted in mid conversation: are you trying to tell me I'm trying to get into your pants. I replied with perhaps I'm trying to get into your. She was like 😄 😄

Also we texted each other songs we like etc.

We have a lot of things in common (we like the same music, books, movies, series ...) and get on really great. She once texted me that she feels like we know each other for a very long time, not just a few months.

She was always very comfortable with me touching her. When she comes to ask me something work related I put my hand on her small of the back and hold it there. Or I put my hand on her elbow, or her waist. Or when I get past her (from behind) I just gently put both my hands on her waist and move on.

There was more things (like her being nervous - not in a bad way 🙂 when I was arround her) that I'm not going to write because it would be to long. 😄

Last week literally over night she changed completley. One evening as normal, next day at work she was like Hi and just went past me as nothing. She looked absent, sad, there was no sparks in her eyes even when talking with others. As a cancer I felt in an instant that something is wrong. At first she said it's nothing, that she just didn't sleep much. But later that evening after work she said I did nothing wrong but it is something that concers me in a way.

She asked if she got it right that I like her (I asked her out a few times before but always said we shouldn't as we work together or just didn't say anything). I said yes. Then she started talking something about that she finds herself circle arround me too much and that it's not good for her. Then the dreaded I can only offer friendship came. :/ Then she said if I know that she has two children. No I don't, but that doesn't bother me. When I asked her if she's seeing someone, she just said "it's complicated".

Next day at work she asked me how am I and then we just avoided each other most of the time. A day later I asked her how she is (she looked tired and still sad) and she said "confused". To be continued ...
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But after about three days I just decided that I'm not going to quit just like that. I wrote her two texts (she said she deleted our previous text conversation) saying that I do like her and I don't know what is going on in her life exactly but I'm willing to give her time to sort it out. I know she read that because I asked her to return a usb drive to me somewhere in the middle of text.

She brought it back together with a small gift. And she said that this isn't my birthday gift that she is promising it to me for the last month. 🙂

So now we are back at me touching her (small of the back, waist, knee, elbow, hands), her smilling, getting to me more and asking me stuff about work, facing me with her whole body, coming very close to me (when she could stay at the door while talking to me as the rest of the people do) and then touch me on my hand (below the soulder) and gently hiting me on my chest as I teased her about something, playing with her ring on her hand ...

Or making a sexual joke about jerking off, teasing me. She also said I'm cute when I'm pissed off with a smile on her face after I told her some story about something.

Yesterday her face was like glowing after she has seen me, when I went home. She teased me if I won't wait and check her cash register if everything is ok. She wished me to enjoy my (two week) vacation and to take some pictures ...

The only thing different is that she didn't text me for the last week. Before that she was always responding in an instant or in a few minutes. But I'm not texting her as I wrote to her that I'll give her time. I don't want to pressure her.

Now I might be completly wrong and is just really friendly, but I wouldn't be comfortable with someone touching me like that if I would see them just as friends and knew that they have feelings for me. I would keep a friendly distance. Not getting close to them etc.

I think she lives at her parents place so I don't think a father of her children is there. She also never ever ever mantioned any male when we talked. All other female coworkers at least mention their bf ... in one way or another. The only time she mentioned someone was once when she told me her ex came into the store and she didn't looked thrilled. That was it.

I feel that she figured out that she started to fall for me and that freaked her out or something. So she backed off and tried to push me away, even by saying that she has children. The tone of that said was like if now that I know it, I'll run away and never come back.

But something is pushing us together like a magnet, so she just can't stay away from me and me from her. I think she was really hurt before (as a cancer I know how we can love deeply and then get hurt even more) and freaked out by starting to have feelings for me. I think she just needs time and go slowly with all this. Just being careful not to trust to soon and get hurt again.

Or she's just remarkably friendly and I'm getting everything wrong.
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Before last week she also slaped me on my ass a few times as I went past her (with some item in her hand). I told her to do it in private next time and use her hand. Her response was: Thanks, duly noted. 😄"

Even as a cancer you can't just go from all that flirting and tension to completly nothing over night. Without any argument or doing anything wrong at all. 🙂

Yesterday she was asking me if I would accept a promotion to another store if I was offered one. And she didn't asked this the first time.

As I said, I feel she was hurt before and just wants to go at all this really slow. She probably just panicked when she figured out that she's starting to get feelings for me.

Or I might be completly wrong at this as men usually are when it comes to women. 😄 Time will tell.

I might text her some nice photo from my vacation in about a weeks time, just to see if she'll respond at all.
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@Scrumptious

There's no way I'm reading all that.

I'm just gonna have to wing it. Let's see...

@OP

Clearly, she's not that into you. You need to move on and pursue a woman who likes you back.


i wasn't expecting any of you to read it. I wanted to start the Cancer Women Initiative. A team of cancer ladies going around leaving sassy comments
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....And you think that you started that kind of team on your own?

What rock have you been hiding under?

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OK I read it all. OP you should ask her out and see where it goes.

In summary, OP is a crab who works with another crab, I think they are cashiers. They have known each other for 5 months total and have been flirting with each other for a couple months now. She is doing the typical wavering thing and he is analyzing.

take heed of the moral of this advice:

http://www.elle.com/horoscopes/love/a2281/cancer-compatibility/

We know of one Cancer-Cancer couple where the woman proposed to her fiancé—got down on bended knee when she had the flu!—because she got tired of waiting for him to pop the question. Turns out, he had a ring stashed in his sock drawer, but was scared she would say no. Oh brother. Crabs, grow a pair—don't let this happen to you.

and the moral is that two crabs wait around along time before they actually do anything. So do something, ask her out already.

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Posted by AnOdeToNoOne
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@Scrumptious

There's no way I'm reading all that.

I'm just gonna have to wing it. Let's see...

@OP

Clearly, she's not that into you. You need to move on and pursue a woman who likes you back.


i wasn't expecting any of you to read it. I wanted to start the Cancer Women Initiative. A team of cancer ladies going around leaving sassy comments
....And you think that you started that kind of team on your own?

What rock have you been hiding under?

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Stalin was on to something
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Posted by rabidtalker
OK I read it all. OP you should ask her out and see where it goes.

In summary, OP is a crab who works with another crab, I think they are cashiers. They have known each other for 5 months total and have been flirting with each other for a couple months now. She is doing the typical wavering thing and he is analyzing.

take heed of the moral of this advice:

http://www.elle.com/horoscopes/love/a2281/cancer-compatibility/

We know of one Cancer-Cancer couple where the woman proposed to her fiancé—got down on bended knee when she had the flu!—because she got tired of waiting for him to pop the question. Turns out, he had a ring stashed in his sock drawer, but was scared she would say no. Oh brother. Crabs, grow a pair—don't let this happen to you.

and the moral is that two crabs wait around along time before they actually do anything. So do something, ask her out already.

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I did asked her out. I think I wrote that above. 🙂 Multiple times (directly asked her out or hinted at seeing a movie together). Twice she said we aren't allowed (though there is no such rule inside a company or even in our society) and once she just smiled and said see you tomorrow. Then the dreaded I can only offer you friendship came and a few days later we were back at flirting (as described all above).

I sent her a text today (a pic from my vacation) to see if she would reply or not and look and behold, 15 minutes later a reply came with a winkey smiley at the end.

I'll see what time brings. Either she's a big friendly flirt or I just need to soften her a bit more to lower her walls a bit more. If life would be easy, it wouldn't have been life. 😛

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@Scrumptious

There's no way I'm reading all that.

I'm just gonna have to wing it. Let's see...

@OP

Clearly, she's not that into you. You need to move on and pursue a woman who likes you back.


i wasn't expecting any of you to read it. I wanted to start the Cancer Women Initiative. A team of cancer ladies going around leaving sassy comments
....And you think that you started that kind of team on your own?

What rock have you been hiding under?

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Fuck off, SuckioFish. Now swim away!

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I did asked her out. I think I wrote that above. 🙂 Multiple times (directly asked her out or hinted at seeing a movie together). Twice she said we aren't allowed (though there is no such rule inside a company or even in our society) and once she just smiled and said see you tomorrow. Then the dreaded I can only offer you friendship came and a few days later we were back at flirting (as described all above).

I sent her a text today (a pic from my vacation) to see if she would reply or not and look and behold, 15 minutes later a reply came with a winkey smiley at the end.

I'll see what time brings. Either she's a big friendly flirt or I just need to soften her a bit more to lower her walls a bit more. If life would be easy, it wouldn't have been life. 😛


Oh my bad, my reading comprehension on low sleep late at night is bad... I dont know, I would probably give up at this point, her policy and all. I'm curious to know what the others think but either way please keep us posted no matter what you decide to do

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Some update 🙂

I finished my two week vacation two weeks ago and we weren't in much contact during that time (a few texts here and there). Now we are back at work and things are like this ...

She still doesn't go away when I touch her and I do touch her almost everytime we speak. She touches me back from time to time but not much. I think she tries to look professional so that other people and boss wouldn't start to think there is something going on. Even when we do talk, she is working on something and just says to walk arround with her so that it wouldn't look like we're just standing and talking.

She doesn't reply to my texts (yeah I know, not good) but then she mentions the content of the text next day at work while we talk. I was explaining to her arround who she needs to watch her back at work, I texted her later in the day that I forgot to warn her about one more woman (I meant her and she knew it) and teased her how crazy that woman is (not in an insulting way) and she didn't text me back, but said the next day at work with a smile on her face that she knows that terrible woman and that she's indeed crazy. 🙂

Last week she gave me, when we were alone, a birthday present (almost two months late as she mentioned a few times before that I'll get one but can't find it - it wan't on stock until now) ... A moon stone necklace. She told me to call her if I won't understand. I did call her next day and she explained about the stone, what it is about and that she also carries them with her.

We did talk on the phone a few times in the last two weeks (about some work stuff, some work related stuff that hurt both of us, and other non work related things, how old her children are, etc.... She talked about her parents, her grandmother, sibling, her children ... But never ever mentioned a husband, buyfriend, ex ... Never mentioned any guy in any way.

When her mother asked her who she's talking to, she refered to me by my name (I'm talking to "insert my name"). So I suppose she mentioned me to her mother before, that she would know about me. She didn't say something like "I'm talking to a friend / a coworker / it's just something about work / a collegue ....

In the last two weeks she told me a few times that she trusts me. That there are just two people (me, and some female coworker) at work that she trully trusts. That what we talk about must stay between us, that she trusts me and if things would get out, she would knew I talked about it to other people.

So I think that she is slow to let people close and trust them, and that she's starting to let me get closer to her. I still think that she was really hurt before and is now very careful who to let close.

I also requested to transfer me to another location at work - personal decision because of work enviroment (nothing to do with me and her), so we might not work together for too long anymore. Then we might start to get to know each other outside of work environment. Or just drift apart. 🙂
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Well honestly, I have no idea where I am with this lady. 🙂

In one way she never calls me or responds to my texts (well she did call me and texted me this week, because she needed something work related), which is well ... bad.

Then on the other hand at work (we work together ... read more background in my opening posts) she tells me that she misses our talks. A few months ago we had lots of non work related stuff (TV shows we like, books, stuff from our lives ...), lately we talk more or less just about work related stuff.

She told me a few weeks ago that she trusts me (one of two people at work that she does, as she said. The other is some woman.).

Last week I have noticed that she has touched me a few times ... She wasn't doing that before. But never had problems with me touching her. Like for example I was talking with a customer in the middle of the store with plenty of space arround me ... She came from behind, lightly touched me on one side of my back and moved to the other side. You know like when you play a prank on someone touching him on one shoulder, the person turns and there is noone there. 🙂 I did that and she was waiting on my other side smilling wanting to ask me something. She could very well come to me with a question from anywhere with no need to touch me or even come very close to me.

Or when I placed my hand on her waist while standing infront of her, she backed away and said "you really want to get me into trouble" ... But it was in the middle of the store where anyone could see us.

Or I made a joke on her a few weeks ago, she laughed really hard and then left. Came back to me a few minutes later and told me that I'm totaly fucked up crazy (some special work in my language that can't really translate correctly). I said to her that I'll take that as a compliment and she responded that it's the biggest possible compliment I could get from her.

Or when we talk in the middle of the store, she is always tidying something while we talk (so that we don't just stand there and do nothing if boss would come by) and then she says "come with me" and takes me to another part of the store to continue the talk.

She never mentions any guys (she could just casualy mention her boyfriend, husband ... if she wanted to be just friendly and have me back off), doesn't want to hook me up with any woman but is avoiding any response when I playfuly mention going out in some sort. She mentioned friendship only once (enough I know) - read in my opening posts, when we were on phone a month ago, she mention me to her mother just by my name (as if her mother knew who she's talking about), not by "a friend", "a colegue", "a coworker" or something.

I don't know ... On one side it looks like she's just friendly and on the other hand she's not behaving as just friendly (at least in my view, which can me a bit partial). Might she be interested but doesn't want to act on it as we work together?
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If you asked her about her relationship and she said it's complicated.... my guess is that there's another guy in the picture and she still has a lot of feelings for him. It's too difficult to just move onto the next guy. But that's exactly what she needs. Just continue to be there for me, show her tons of affection, buy her little gifts, and give it time. She will realize how much she likes you and slowly forget about the other guy.

I'm a cancer btw
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The fact is I don't have a clue wether she does like me or is she just really friendly. She did say a few months ago (you can read about that in my opening posts) that she can only offer friendship ... Though she never ever repeated that since then in any shape or form (not refering to me a a friend, colegue, buddy ...).

But I would never behave, like she behaves arround me, arround someone I knew likes me as more than a friend. I would never let that woman too close, I would not let her touch me, I would probably try to avoid her as much as possible and I would most certanly not tell such woman that I miss our talks. But that's just me.



Also she's very nervous at work that someone might see us ... For example ... I showed her some optical illusion that required closed door and lights turned off in an office and she panicked what would other coworkes think about it, when they went home and see the closed door with us inside.

A few weeks ago I came to her in the middle of the store to talk about something and placed my hand on her waist and she moved back saying "you will really get me into trouble".

I gave her a gift for her promotion and she opened it right there and then hugged me - for the first and only time so far. It wasn't like a quick one second friendly hug and I wasn't looking or excpecting one. She kissed me on the cheek and hugged me for I don't know ... ten seconds at least. At the end she nervously looked arround if anyone saw us.

And I'm clueless again. 😄 If she looked at me as only a friend, I don't think she would get nervous about such things as she would look at it through "friends eyes". She has no problem hugging some other male coworker (they are just friends and coworkers, nothing more) in public infront of other coworkers. When it comes to me, she was worried someone might see us.

I don't know ... 🙂 Life is complicated. 😄
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So in the last days she started to touch me here and there ... A punch on my upper arm while teasing her, a light touch on my upper arm when talking with me. There were some sexual playful teasing. She was confortable with me having my hand on her kneee while squating next to her seating on a chair. Or describing what she was wearing when she went to some social gathering.

Yesterday it was my last day at work for one week (I'm having a week off) and we won't see each other for a week. So I asked her out on dinner and her response was "I must not". She said she likes being arround me (or something like that) but she must not go out with me.

Not that she doesn't like me like that, not that we're just friends, not that it's not you it's me ... Just that she must not. Like she's not allowed in some way.

And at the end of work day, after all that above, she said to send (text) some nice picture if I'll go somewhere on a trip during my vacation.

I don't get it. I think she acts like she does like me, but then she says (not for the first time) she mustn't go out with me.

So later in the evening yesterday I sent her a text saying that I could understand if she didn't want to go out with me, because she doesn't like me like that. But I can't understand this "I must not" and I want to talk about it. I said that if she is in a relationship, I would appreciate if she would casualy mentioned this sometime, so I wouldn't be making an idiot out of myself in the past months. But if she just has some doubts or is scared of something, then I think we are at 35 old enough to work it out. I also said that it's very apparent we like each other and have so much stuff in common that sometimes I think I'm looking at my mirror image and asked for how long are going to continue dancing around each other like two crabs that we are.

I don't expect her reply as she doesn't reply to my texts lately, but I think she'll say something sooner or later when we see each other at work again after my week off.

I hope I didn't pushed her too hard and will back off, but sometimes enough is enough and there needs to be some sort of push and kick in the ass to move.
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To be honest I'm not even sure there is an ex ... Or current ... Or whatever. I just know that any woman in a relatioship (doesn't matter whether I was interested in her or just friendly/colegue) sooner rather than latter mentioned her guy in one way or another. Not this one.

How hard can it be to just come out and say something like "Look, you're cool, but I don't want to go out with you because I don't like you like that. I have a bf or whatever and I'm happy and that's it."

No, you avoid like plague saying or explaining anything to me, you never mention any bf, husband ... , you tell me you trust me, you tell me you miss the talks we had, you tell me about your mother, sister, brother, uncle, yourself ... And then drop the "I must not go out with you". Just say I don't like you that way and start acting in a way that will support that claim and be done with it. 🙂

She knows very well that I like her a lot and never did anything about that like back away when I would come close to her and touch her, avoid talking to me (she even came to me during work and said that we don't talk that much anymore and that she misses that) ...

Why do we damn Crabs always move sideways, avoid everything, never risk it and just do what we like or want to do? 😄
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Oh well ... After one week I've got a response to my text mentioned in my previous post.

It's friendzone as it looks like. 😢 She only offers friendship and friendship relationship and that's why she said she mustn't go out with me.

Though I still don't know if she just doesn't like me like that or is there something else behind, because I don't think she was behaving just like a friend.



Well I have my answer, even if I don't know the back story. So now I'll just have to raise my crab wall up again and let her stay behind it, because I have to look at her every day at work and I wouldn't have been fair to myself if I accepted only friendship. She would get everything she wants and me not so much. I'll ignore her text just as she did mine for a while now.

So no more touching from me, no more gifts and certanly no more private talks about what we like etc. She said before that she misses talking to me and she's not getting that from me anymore. I don't want to be mean to her or anything (I like her too much for that) but I need to protect myself.

And just when you think you really met your soulmate with the way we clicked with eachother. I have never before met a woman that had so much in common with me ... It was almost like looking at my mirror image in some sense. Ah well ... story of my life. 🙂
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Oh well ... After one week I've got a response to my text mentioned in my previous post.

It's friendzone as it looks like. 😢 She only offers friendship and friendship relationship and that's why she said she mustn't go out with me.

Though I still don't know if she just doesn't like me like that or is there something else behind, because I don't think she was behaving just like a friend.



Well I have my answer, even if I don't know the back story. So now I'll just have to raise my crab wall up again and let her stay behind it, because I have to look at her every day at work and I wouldn't have been fair to myself if I accepted only friendship. She would get everything she wants and me not so much. I'll ignore her text just as she did mine for a while now.

So no more touching from me, no more gifts and certanly no more private talks about what we like etc. She said before that she misses talking to me and she's not getting that from me anymore. I don't want to be mean to her or anything (I like her too much for that) but I need to protect myself.

And just when you think you really met your soulmate with the way we clicked with eachother. I have never before met a woman that had so much in common with me ... It was almost like looking at my mirror image in some sense. Ah well ... story of my life. 🙂
don't give up on her ...op

they say that once you date the same sign your ready to face all the flaws you have in yourself ...whats your moon sign whats her moon sign?>

also ..I would just be honest with her ...have you told her that your interested in her romantically?
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Oh well ... After one week I've got a response to my text mentioned in my previous post.

It's friendzone as it looks like. 😢 She only offers friendship and friendship relationship and that's why she said she mustn't go out with me.

Though I still don't know if she just doesn't like me like that or is there something else behind, because I don't think she was behaving just like a friend.



Well I have my answer, even if I don't know the back story. So now I'll just have to raise my crab wall up again and let her stay behind it, because I have to look at her every day at work and I wouldn't have been fair to myself if I accepted only friendship. She would get everything she wants and me not so much. I'll ignore her text just as she did mine for a while now.

So no more touching from me, no more gifts and certanly no more private talks about what we like etc. She said before that she misses talking to me and she's not getting that from me anymore. I don't want to be mean to her or anything (I like her too much for that) but I need to protect myself.

And just when you think you really met your soulmate with the way we clicked with eachother. I have never before met a woman that had so much in common with me ... It was almost like looking at my mirror image in some sense. Ah well ... story of my life. 🙂
don't give up on her ...op

they say that once you date the same sign your ready to face all the flaws you have in yourself ...whats your moon sign whats her moon sign?>

also ..I would just be honest with her ...have you told her that your interested in her romantically?
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I think my moon sign is Virgo and hers might be cancer. I'm not sure about her exact hour of birth, but she is only four days older than me. We were both born in the same year, four days apart.

Yes I did told her. First time a few months ago and she knew it all along. There was much talking, teasing and texting (like her texting me "Are you trying to tell me I'm trying to get into your pants? 🙂" -My reply: Perhaps I'm trying to get into yours 😉. And she replied "You dirty little ... 😄").

And then one day she just stopped replying, told me she can only offer friendship, asking me if I know that she has two kids, saying she's confused, that this isn't good for her ... It was like she figured that it's getting to serious and that she's starting to fall for me and backed off.

Even after that I still always had the feeling that she's behaving more than just friendly. She was never uncomfortable with me touch her (small of the back, elbow, knee ...), told me that she misses talking to me (when we weren't talking that much about personal non work related stuff for a while), telling me that I'm one of few poeple at work that she trusts ... She never ever mentioned any male that she's with or dating or anything. The only time I asked her if she's seeing anyonem she said "it's complicated".

Up until now she wasn't behaving like someone would behave (at least I would) arround someone you know has feelings for you, but you don't have the same feelings for him/her. But that could just be me seeing things that aren't there.



Her reply today was: "What I meant with that "I must not go out with you" is that I only offer friendship and since you want more than that it's not ok to accept your invitation. It's true that we get along very well and it means a lot to me that we have a good, friendly, relationship. I hope you understand."

So it's time to give up if you ask me. This battle (as much as I don't like that) is lost as it looks to me.
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Oh well ... After one week I've got a response to my text mentioned in my previous post.

It's friendzone as it looks like. 😢 She only offers friendship and friendship relationship and that's why she said she mustn't go out with me.

Though I still don't know if she just doesn't like me like that or is there something else behind, because I don't think she was behaving just like a friend.



Well I have my answer, even if I don't know the back story. So now I'll just have to raise my crab wall up again and let her stay behind it, because I have to look at her every day at work and I wouldn't have been fair to myself if I accepted only friendship. She would get everything she wants and me not so much. I'll ignore her text just as she did mine for a while now.

So no more touching from me, no more gifts and certanly no more private talks about what we like etc. She said before that she misses talking to me and she's not getting that from me anymore. I don't want to be mean to her or anything (I like her too much for that) but I need to protect myself.

And just when you think you really met your soulmate with the way we clicked with eachother. I have never before met a woman that had so much in common with me ... It was almost like looking at my mirror image in some sense. Ah well ... story of my life. 🙂
don't give up on her ...op

they say that once you date the same sign your ready to face all the flaws you have in yourself ...whats your moon sign whats her moon sign?>

also ..I would just be honest with her ...have you told her that your interested in her romantically?
I think my moon sign is Virgo and hers might be cancer. I'm not sure about her exact hour of birth, but she is only four days older than me. We were both born in the same year, four days apart.

Yes I did told her. First time a few months ago and she knew it all along. There was much talking, teasing and texting (like her texting me "Are you trying to tell me I'm trying to get into your pants? 🙂" -My reply: Perhaps I'm trying to get into yours 😉. And she replied "You dirty little ... 😄").

And then one day she just stopped replying, told me she can only offer friendship, asking me if I know that she has two kids, saying she's confused, that this isn't good for her ... It was like she figured that it's getting to serious and that she's starting to fall for me and backed off.

Even after that I still always had the feeling that she's behaving more than just friendly. She was never uncomfortable with me touch her (small of the back, elbow, knee ...), told me that she misses talking to me (when we weren't talking that much about personal non work related stuff for a while) ... She never ever mentioned any male that she's with or dating or anything. The only time I asked her if she's seeing anyonem she said "it's complicated".

Up until now she wasn't behaving like someone would behave (at least I would) arround someone you know has feelings for you, but you don't have the same feelings for him/her. But that could just be me seeing things that aren't there.



Her reply today was: "What I meant with that "I must not go out with you" is that I only offer friendship and since you want more than that it's not ok to accept your invitation. It's true that we get along very well and it means a lot to me that we have a good, friendly, relationship. I hope you understand."

So it's time to give up if you ask me. This battle (as much as I don't like that) is lost as it looks to me.
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oh no... 😢 op I'm sorry ...I hope she will come around one day ..but if she doesn't, don't wait for her ...start dating again ...I hope the best for you
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Crab35
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Well it is what it is. She might have been just really friendly from the start and I've read the signs completly wrong. Or there are other issues that I don't know.

But if I don't romanticaly like someone and I do know that she does like me like that, I would not let her very close to me. I would be uncomfortable with her touching me everytime. I would not be telling her that I trust her, that I miss talking to her ... I would not be asking her if I have her respect. And so on.

I won't see her until Tuesday back at work, so I have a few days to ignore her text just as she is ignoring my texts since that change of her attitude (literaly over night).

And then I will politely decline her friendship offer. I have enough friends and I would never look at her just as a friend. With me you get the complete package, take it or leave it. You can't just pick some things you like and leave the rest behind. So there will only be a polite (I like her too much to become a jerk to her) coworker relationship - no more personal talks, no more work advices on who and what to beware, no more touching her (this will be very hard for me 🙂) ... She'll get the same treatment that the rest of women there get. But I most definetly don't need just another friend. You figured out that you want more? Great, you know where my door is and knock on it. Want only friendship? Thanks, but no thanks. I will always look at you with different eyes that just friendly.

I won't be like some poor dog who is all happy to be just friends with her in hope of something more. I'm a cancer and I'm very very good at building walls arround my heart. I took a risk and served my heart on a plate. The next time (if there ever will be ofcourse) it's up to her.
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Hi again 🙂 Still about the same cancer woman as before if anyone remembers.

Lately we're still very close with each other. Telling each other about work stuff things (we have some mobbing and egoistic female boss who is making working enviroment poisoned for most of the people) so that we can protect each others back. We're both supervisors to the same team and we both report to the same boss (mentioned above). She's new to this position and is under much stress and pressure. She was attached to me before and is still very much ... And I try and protech her as much as I can.

She's also starting to share some things about her family (mother, sister, brother) and she tells me things about her children from time to time (like ... she lost her tooth yesterday ... and then we are at a tooth fairy cartoon we both watched as kids). She said she's very protective about her family and doesn't talk to people about her private life, so I guess this is a good thing for me.

I few weeks ago we had some a bit more playful and sexual teasing and I playfully slapped her ass (never done that before) with my hand and walked away with a smile. She wasn't angry and she said she'll get me for that. Later that evening when we walked up the stairs alone, she slapped me back on my ass with her hand (also first time she used her hand).

Since then whenever I stand next to her and put my hand on small of her back, I put it just a bit lower ... Just about where her ass starts and she never complained about it.

When we were teasing each other and I teased her about something that she could go on her knees she was a bit shocked as there was a coworker there. Later she came to me and asked me if I really want that everyone at work will start talking that we are flirting? And also said that it's ok to talk like this when we are alone, but not in public infront of other coworkers.
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Continuing the previous post ...

I gave her a personilized tshirt with a printed inspirational message just for her and the next day at work when I met her, she just came to me and hugged me really tight for 5 seconds or perhaps more. We just stood there hugged and she didn't care if anyone sees us. She told me she cried when she opened the present (there was also a hand written message for her from me) and when I asked her if she liked it she said yes and that she'll start crying again if she'll talk about it now.

This present was because she had tough few months at work and the fact that I'm leaving in one month to go working in another store in our company (per my request) - As I just can't stand and work with my current egomaniac mobbing boss. I was also degraded from my supervisory possition (not enough ass kissing my new boss for the last three months) and she is now also my supervisor for a month I'm still here.

Latter yesterday she hugged me again in a group meeting when she told to the rest of the people that I'm leaving soon and that I'm no longer their supervisor. She is looking at me for the last few days, when it was official that I'm leaving, with those sad puppy eyes and I can see it's really hard for her.

So when we were alone latter yesterday and she was really down, standing next to me, I just put my hand arround her shoulders and she just turned towards me and put her head on my chest. I just hold her tight and I just stroke her hair/head while I hold her.
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Continuing the previous post ...

When she was sitting on a chair and I was in a squat next to her, she relaxed, leaned back, crossed her legs and turned towards me. While we were talking I left my hand on her knee and I was holding her calf and just very slightly fondled her there. When someone was aproaching the office, we both just moved back like we're just talking.

She also mentioned just in a sentence a few weeks ago that some guy was cheating her all over the place. Never said anything else about it and I didn't asked her more. I'm guessing it could be the father of her children as she never ever in 9 months we know each other mention anyone. Not a father of her kids or any other guy (beside her brother). Never. Ever.

So I guess she was really hurt before and as a cancer (same as me) now has a hard time trusting people and letting them close. Long time ago she once told me that one thing she can never forgive is cheating on her.

I think she was refusing my invitations to go out with me before and telling me she can offer friendship because we are working together and tried to be as profesional on the outside as possible ... People would start talking at work if we would go any deeper. And because she might be slow with letting someone close.

So my plan now is this, since we won't be working together at the same store again in a months time ... I plan to write her a hand written letter and give it to her the last day we'll be working together. And in a letter I intend to tell her how I really feel about her, what I want, how I see her ... And then just let her read, think about it and decide what to do. I don't want to loose her from my life. We won't work daily together anymore, but in this way we could start seeing each other outside of work and go on some proper dates. If she's interested. Otherwise it's just a nice way to say goodbye to her.
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If anyone still cares about this ... 🙂 At least read the last three posts above this one for latest updates.

This December we worked together for the last few days (I was off work a lot) and now I'm transfered per my request to another store in a different town.

So I wrote her a long, I could say a love letter of some sorts, hand written letter in the beggining of December and gave it to her when I knew we will only work together for a day or two at the very end of December. In that letter I told her how I see her, how I feel about her, what I thought about her when we started to work together 10 months ago (she asked me about this a few times before), what I want ...

She never said anything about the letter. Not a word. But she did call me a week latter when I was off work on a holiday to check how am I doing. We had some contact (some texts, a few calls) during those 20 days in December I was off work.

We've met with a few coworkers (her included) and went out to town one evening as a sort of my farewell. We talked about some private stuff as we walked a few meters behind the rest of them ... She told me some story from her past, talked about some new TV series we both like ... As we were walking with hands in our pockets (it was really cold - winter here) I just placed my hand around her elbow and into my pocked (hands "hugged" at our elbows like olympic rings are) and we just walked like that together.

I called her at the end of December to tell her I'm coming to work that day (a day earlier than I was told a few weeks ago ... boss had different requests now). She sounded very happy that she'll see me again.

She did looke very happy. I continued touching her when we were together (lower back, very light touches on her ass, hands ...) and she also touched me here and there when she came to me or when we talked.

On our last day working together I gave her a gift and another letter where I told her that I stand by what I said in my first letter. And that there won't be any more calls, texts, letters ... from me. I told her how I feel and now it's up to her. My "doors" are open, she has my number and she knows how to reach me as I don't want to loose her from my life. And that if we don't see each other again, I wish her all the best in her life etc.

We wished each other for new year, kissed each other three times on our cheeks and hugged very close for well ... over 5 seconds. She said that this isn't a goodbye (as I won't die quite soon), but just a see you.

The next day she messaged me, made a funny comment about my gift (about what it was) and said "I love it. THANKS".

So now this is it. She knew how I feel about her and was still very comfortable with me touching her and flirting. I would feel akward and tried to keed a bit of distance if someone would confess something like that to me and I would have no feeling beside friendship towards her. But she never behaved like that ... now or in the past months.

And now she knows everything. Has my letters that probably made her cry, since my Tshirt gift about a month ago made her cry. And I left the ball on her court. I can't be just a friend to her and now that we won't see each other everyday at work will be easier for me, if she decides not to contact me again.

I don't know it writing her and telling her about my feelings and everything was a good thing or not, but I would never forgive myself if I would be quiet and not tell her. Now I can go on with my life and if she contacts me again in the next days, weeks ... Great. If she doesn't ... well, I'll just have to get over it. Time heals.

I'll just give her space and time and maybe she'll miss me enough to be willing to let me closer to her. And if she has a boyfriend (she does have two kids) that she never in 10 months mentioned to me by a single word, then so be it. In that case, I told her in a letter, it would be much easier for both of us if she would have mentioned this in some way sometime during those 10 months. Never ever mentioned any man in her life. Ever.

So this is the end of my story with a cancer woman. I'll continue with my life, work ... and see if she contacts me in the near future. If there will be a development, I'll write about it. If not, then this is it. Thanks for bearing with me.