Do you believe in true love?

i am a cancer girl in love with a virgo man. my story is a bit complicated. i met him almost four years ago. we both live in two different states. he was the type of man people call a "gypsy".
what i mean by this, is that it took hime along time to settle in one place.
he now is leaving back home in boston where he has finally stayed put. It took me two years to see him, but i never gave up hope. i stating going to boston last year. the first time i saw him after two years was last new years. it was the happiest time for me.
anyway as soon as his feelings start happening, he runs. last august he hurt me really bad. i thought it was done, it was a difficult time for me, my whole world came down at me at one. of course once again,eight months later my phone rang, once again he stated he missed me etc. but this man is not ready to commit himself to me. this time i told him not to call me again unless he has to say what i need to hear. everyone says he'll call again, thats his pattern. the strange thing is
i want him to. i want the upper hand, i feel i deserve it. do you believe in fate and desting and what about the signs? i feel they are all around me, i feel that we are meant to be. being a cancer, i have no patience, i wanted everything yesterday. i love this man with all my heart, am i wasting my time, or is it possible that timing is everything, and when the time is right we will be together? please help me.

Alyse

Where are you from Alyse?

I am from NY, why?

i am a cancer girl in love with a virgo man. my story is a bit complicated. i met him almost four years ago. we both live in two different states. he was the type of man people call a "gypsy".
what i mean by this, is that it took hime along time to settle in one place.
he now is leaving back home in boston where he has finally stayed put. It took me two years to see him, but i never gave up hope. i stating going to boston last year. the first time i saw him after two years was last new years. it was the happiest time for me.
anyway as soon as his feelings start happening, he runs. last august he hurt me really bad. i thought it was done, it was a difficult time for me, my whole world came down at me at one. of course once again,eight months later my phone rang, once again he stated he missed me etc. but this man is not ready to commit himself to me. this time i told him not to call me again unless he has to say what i need to hear. everyone says he'll call again, thats his pattern. the strange thing is
i want him to. i want the upper hand, i feel i deserve it. do you believe in fate and desting and what about the signs? i feel they are all around me, i feel that we are meant to be. being a cancer, i have no patience, i wanted everything yesterday. i love this man with all my heart, am i wasting my time, or is it possible that timing is everything, and when the time is right we will be together? please help me.

Alyse

I'm in the SAME IDENTICAL BOAT, only he's a cappy!!! (It'll be 5 years soon for me dealing with him, but I know in my heart that we are meant to be)Virgos and Caps are exactly alike BTW. Hang in there if your brain is telling you one thing but your heart is saying something else. The heart never lies. Believe me it's a struggle that I HOPE will be worth it for us—

THANKS SO MUCH FOR REPLYING, THIS HAS BEEN THE HARDEST FEW YEARS OF MY LIFE. I TRY TO GO ON, AS MUCH AS I TELL MYSELF THAT AND EVERYONE ELSE, I GUESS I AM LYING. EVERYONE TELLS ME IF I DON'T LET GO OF MY BAGGAGE TRUE LOVE WON'T COME TO ME BECAUSE I WILL NEVER GIVE ANYONE THE CHANCE. BUT HOW DO I LET GO WHEN MY HEART KNOW HOW IN LOVE I AM WITH THIS PERSON. DOES SOMEONE WHO
HAS COMMITMENT FEAR EVER SETTLE?

whats btw?

I didn't write BTW but I think it means
by the way. Anyhow your question does a
man who's afraid of commitment every commit.
Yes when he's ready to-and not a minutue before.
He can't be forced into it but it doesn't sound like
that's what your doing. It just sounds like he has
feelings for you but they are on one end of the
scale and where's he at in life and what he
wants-are at the other end of that scale right now.
It hard to advise, but it depends on what you
want right now and if that's important enough to
wait until he's ready in 1 yr, 2.3.. If not do your
very best to move on, but to let him go first. It's
tough now doubt. If it's meant to be, you will both
be at the same place in your life at the same time.
If it's not you'll find that out too. good luck.

WHO ARE YOU, THANK YOU. YOU EXPLAIN THINGS VERY WELL. I SURE HOPE UR RIGHT.

Ohhh! I feel that with my virgo ex - I am a cancer. We had such an incredible connection (spiritual) I would say. We broke up 7 months ago because he can't committ now in his life. He wants to be single and roam. This has just about devastated me. I have NEVER felt the amount of love for anyone like I did him. We had a messy breakup - I had to let him go, and he didn't want to lose me, so there was alot of tension and accusations - not pretty. I miss him tremendously, but I was in a lose, lose situation. I've dated others in the meantime, but it's not the same - not even close. Sometimes I wonder how he is and what he feels. We loved each other so, so much! Any advice?

YOURS IS PRETTY HARD, YOU HAD THAT
"RELATIONSHIP" WITH HIM, I NEVER DID.
YOU LIVE IN THE SAME STATE. I WISH I HAD THE ANSWERS FOR EVERYONE, I DO.
I AM IN THERAPY FOR EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE RIGHT NOW. SOMETIMES I WISH I WASN'T A "CANCER" BEING SO EMOTIONAL AND SO SENSITVE IS DIFFICULT, DON'T U THINK. SOMETIMES I WISH I WAS A STRINGER PERSON. I GUESS MY ANSWER TO
YOU, YOU ALREADY ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,
YOUR ANSWER IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. IF IT IS MEANT TO BE FOR US THEN TIMING IS EVERYTHING, BUT REMEMBER AT THAT TIME IF THIS IS PRESENTED TO US, HOW DO WE REALLY KNOW WE WOULD ACCEPT IT. AS HARD AS THIS IS FOR ME IT TOOK ALOT FOR ME TO TELL HIM NOT TO CALL UNLESS HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT I WANT. WHEN IS YOUR BIRTHDAY?

My birthday is July 8. Sometimes I hate being so emotional and sensitive, because emotions run deep and we hurt to the core!
I know he has moved on - he sent me a "farewell" letter about 3 months ago wishing me the best and all that good stuff. I didn't respond because for what reason - to torture myself some more?
I need to move on - yes - and find someone who is on the same page as myself.

THAT'S FUNNY, MINE IS JULY 11TH, I SENT HIM A FINALLY LETTER AND ASKED NOT TO RESPOND AND OF COURSE HE DID AND SAID THE SAME THING. THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO GET THE LAST SAY.

Ha ha!!! They do, don't they - mine did, and I always use to tease him about that - getting the last word -I let him - go ahead!
So, now what for you? Is it really done and over for you guys?

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OVER REALLY MEAN. EVERYTIME I PUT IT IN MY HEAD ITS COMPLETELY FINISHED, BOOM HE CALLS AGAIN. HE WILL WAIT A COUPLE OF MONTHS SO THEN HE THINKS I FORGET AND NEVER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING. HE CAN'T SHOW HIS FEELINGS AT ALL, HE RUNS FROM THEM. I DON'T KNOW EVERYONE THINKS HE'LL CALL AGAIN. BUT I TOLD HIM THE LAST TIME, IT'S WILL BE MY WAY OR NO WAY
BECAUSE I CAN'T HANDLE THIS EMOTIONALLY ANY LONGER. THE PROBLEM IS HE KNEW I WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR HIM. MAYBE NOW THAT HE KNOWS I AM NOT, MAYBE A BRICK WILL FALL ON HIS HEAD AND WAKE HIME UP. I HOPE, THATS ALL I CAN DO. WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN, I AM IN NEW YORK.

Me too,m I am in New york also. The last email I received was in February - the "farewell" letter. I live in the city, and so does he. We haven't crossed paths yet, but he did mention that he hopes they do becuase he looks forward to seeing how my life has been going. I was always there for him too, always, in every which way, and then boom! Cancers are very good people, but very strong also! What do you make of this one?

IMAGINE WE KNOW EACH OTHER HOW FUNNY WOULD THAT BE. YOURS IS A WORSE SITUATION, BECAUSE YOU CAN RUN INTO HIM
ANYTIME, DAME!!!!!!OF COURSE HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW YOUR DOING, THE BEST THING FOR YOU IS TO NEVER EVER LET HIM THINK HE HAS WEAKENED YOU. PLAY THE GAME, UNFORTUANETLY WE HAVE TO, RENT THE
MOVIE "TWO GAME PLAY AT THAT GAME" GREAT GIRL FLICK. YOU WILL LIKE IT, TRUST ME. WE CAN NEVER SHOW THEM WE WANT THEM THAT BAD. ANYWAY, I LIVE IN BKLYN, USED TO WORK IN THE CITY GOT FIRED LAST MARCH, NEED TO GET BACK THERE, ITS HARD, I WAS IN THE GARMENT CENTER, REALLY MORE ACCESSORIES. AND U?
BY THE WAY I AM 32 YRS OLD.

Why does he care how I am doing? Why? Is that just lip service? Actually I live and work in the city - 40 years old and gay. He has NO idea about how I have feeling or dying - I haven't spoke to him at all. Over the last 7 months, he has sent me 3 emails and has made 2 phone calls - and I haven't responded to any of it. He lied and cheated.
I have remaided incredibly strong -
Does your virgo show emotions?

COOL I AM SPEAKING W/A MALE. MY VIRGO SHOWS NO EMOTIONS WHAT SO EVER, HE RUNS FROM IT. OF COURSE HE WOULD LIKE TO RUN INTO YOU, THAT'S ANOTHER EXCUSE, THEY ACT STRIONG BUT WITHIN....WEAK VERY WEAK, I AM LEAVING FO RTH EVENING, BUT CAN CONTINUE TMR. BE STRONG, ALL US CANCERS MUST STICK TOGETHER, THERES SOMEONE SPECIAL FOR ALL OF US. YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

..Hope to talk again tommorow. I had a feeling my "x" was also. He lost a really, really good and loyal guy. I hope he's happy! Have a good night!

You 2 have absolutely no idea. You probably met these people on the net. Am I right? If you want a virgo, don't make them feel too wanted, cos they will run. And the heart does lie. It lies to your head. And your head lies to your heart. What I'm saying, is, they are the same thing.

I hope I have confused you.

NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT? NO I DIDN'T MEET ON THE NET. IT SEEMS QUITE CLEAR THAT YOU ARE ANGRY ABOUT SOMETHING. IT'S NICE TO KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO CONFUSE PEOPLE, THATS NICE. WHY YOU SO BITTER. QUITE HONESTLY I DO FOLLOW MY HEART, AND YOUR HEART KNOWS.

JUST ONE MORE THING, WHO HURT YOU SO BAD?

oh boy - this is all sounding way too familiar - All I know is that I never want to relive that again with anyone.
It was way too painful! Who hurt me so bad -is that what you are asking?

we two have no idea about what? Speak up!!!

YES, YOU'RE HURTING BAD, IF YOU WEREN'T YOU WOULDN'T GET THAT ANGRY AT PEOPLE WHO ARE STATING HOW THEY FEEL, YOU MUST BE A CANCER, JUST REMEMBER WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE, NOT AGAINST YOU. WHAT'S YOUR STORY. MAYBE THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER. SHARE, I AM HERE TO LISTEN.

HI IT'S ME AGAIN FROM YESTERDAY, NOW I AM GOING TO GET CONFUSED AS SOMEONE ELSE HAS JOINED US.

it's me it's me - the gay cancer man I've been chatting with you yesterday. I'm not the other person - I had the virgo boyfriend who dumped me.

WHO'S THIS ANGRY PERSON SPEAKING WITH US? THAT WASN'T SO NICE!

just remember I am 166.77 ok? I really don't know what that person is talking about - My heart doesn't lie - that's for sure! Maybe the virgo's heart does - and his head - who knows?

I don't know - really. So, virgo's are weak or just cheaters or liars and users? I had a bad night last night.

MY HEART DOESN'T LIE EITHER, THAT'S FOR SURE.......IF IT DID I WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER THIS ALONG TIME AGO. I DO BELIEVE IN FOLLOWING YOUR HEART. I MIGHT HAVE NOT FULLY GOTTEN WHAT I WANT YET, BUT IF I NEVER FOLLOWED MY HEART OF WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM AGAIN EITHER. AND FOR THE THIRD PERSON READING THIS, I NEVER, AGAIN NEVER WAS PYSCHO WITH THIS VIRGO MAN, I KNEW I WOULD NEVER GET HIM THE WAY I WANT. NOW HE CAN'T HAVE ME AT ALL, BELIEVE ME HE'LL CALL AGAIN BECAUSE NOW HE DOESN'T HAVE ME WHERE HE THOUGHT HE DID.

Are they somewhat manipulative? I know mine was - he's not capable of truly loving - he's just short term. I have a feeling mine knows he "lost" me, and therefore sent me that farewell letter for himself. It was nothing to do with me. In my heart however, I know he really probably does care, more than he thought he could. He screwed it all up!
Oh well ---- next!

i am sorry for your story, i truly am, mine i know is capable of loving, he is so afraid of it, it shows in everything that he has done. is last relationship was about six years ago, no one since, steady. the last girl hurt him terribly that now he just runs from what he truly knows is real, and thats me. maybe thats why i hold on, i read right thru him and he knows it.

I would have never hurt him - I know he trusted me implicitly - I told him constantly that I loved him, and always backed it up with my actions. He lied, cheated behind my back - and when I cut the relationship - he was very upset. Now, in some twisted way, he portrays himself as the victim. Even after the break, he told me he loved and missed me tremendously, meanwhile, out in bars trying to get laid. This was hard!

everyone always tries to make themselves the victim, of course, mine doesn't want to take blame either, the ones like that know they are 100% wrong, believe me they do. it just makes it easier for them. my virgo and I were never "boyfrien/girlfriend, so i can't say there was cheating, i honestly believe that wouldn't be my problem w/him. he's just living his life. hopefully after our last conversation, maybe now it will bother him.

I think I need therapy sometimes - trying to decipher it all out. We were definitley a couple (at one point). So, that's it - he's guilty and knows it?
I'm very proud of myself for being strong and courageous demanding more respect for myself! I wonder sometimes how he could have moved on so quickly.
He is selfish however....

you know i do that to myself also. why do we always think they aren't feeling any pain as well, i believe they do.
don't feel bad, i always think like that also, i say it to my friends all the time. if he was thinking about me and missing me he would . THEY DO.

I know he must have at one point. Maybe not so much anymore. He's probably off and running with a new boy, he probably thinks I am too. It's all so exhausting- but what choices do we have?

My relationship with him was at a "spiritual" level - I can't explain the connection. Maybe it was one sided - my side - but I believe he must have felt it too. He just took it for granted and thought I would always be there no matter what - but guess what?
I want better!

i unterstand, honest, i can't stand the drama anymore, i am exhausted as well.

I GUESS THE TWO OF US WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE, SO THERE IS SOMETHING GOOD OUT THERE FOR US.

I throw it out to the universe! Let go and let God! I'm trying to do that. It's sometimes hard with a very broken heart!

I DO UNDERSTAND, BELIEVE ME I WANT TO NOT THINK ABOUT IT ANY MORE, IT'S TAKING UP ALL MY ENERGY. I NEED A MIRACLE, I DO.

Ok ... miracle? What kind?

the fairy tale miracle, i want so bad for him to call and say he's made the mistake, come to boston and live with me. he's done it, but never seriously, thats what was bad, even the last time we spoke, a month ago. how funny is that

I know - initially, I wanted mine to do the same thing - but not now. We are really done and over, although he does hope our paths cross - whether he is sincere or not, well, I don't know - and I know my life must go on. I would never go back with him, he's not a person that is going to change too easily. It's just so, so hard.

i am sorry, i truly am.

thanks - I know.

why dont you people get a life instead of contemplating having one?

Maybe your ex's weren't as crazy as you two, got bored or the sex, and decided to find people who were normal and not so into astrology?

Bitter? No. Helpful? Yes. Cheeky? Maybe.

Good luck, and I hope if I come here in 3 months this topic hasn't reached 10, 927 pages of utter, utter stupidity.

Thank you.