help with cancer woman gf of 2 yrs

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I know she isnt opening up completely to me and it leaves me feing disatisfied with our relationship because she doesnt try to connect emotionally with me , i want that, she wants that too but then she would tell me anything that bothers her uses her fake smile every single day.. It makes me fucking mad cause i can sense she is holding back , why the fickk is she holding back from me , i never cheated or lie to her . she has lied to me i forgave...

The only days we would have a great satisfying talk is when id.beg her to open up and help our relatioship... I give her all my heart and she still osnt opening up to me, its been like this for a year im getting fuking tired of this shit, im loyal as fuk, why is she scared of me ? I lost my temper 4 days ago because of her hiding her probs from cause apparently she doesnt wanna annoy me even though i told her i.dont mind at all if the whole day we only talk about problems..... Her family relation is also shit and sort of abusive very controlling


When i get mad she will apologizes and opens up to me for a day and we really enjoy that day but the next day she is back to not telling me stuff..... Makes me mad this makes me feel like she isnt interested anymore and as soon.as.i.say its over u dont seem to like me anymore , she starts crying and begs me not to go , wtf is this ?

Im taurus sun
Scorpio asc.
Taurus moon

Shes cancer sun
Gemeini asc
Cancer moon

How do.i.make her open up ??
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Posted by NorthWest
Posted by sasukexx18
North west _— i really love her alot and will move mountains for her if i have to, i feel unappreciated un loved and not satisfied at all... When i would talk to her about this she would deny everything that makes.me.even more made cause the scorpio in can sense she is lying 😢 this is so fking sad she is ruining everything by herself



i understand what you're feeling, even though I don't love him...but i do care a lot.
It's frustrating when we don't know what they're thinking/feeling and they won't open up to us. It's exhausting when WE put in all the work while they do nothing. It all hurts too.
I took drastic steps to work on my issues not only for myself but for me and him because it affected our relationship, and he knows that. I've apologized. Explained. and his response to everything is 'ok' lol. It's like he doesn't want to talk about anything.

So maybe, if she's closing herself off, you just mirror her behavior. Stop chasing her perhaps. Or, for own wellbeing, end it and walk away even though it hurts a lot to do so.
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thanks man for replying...

i have tried everything i possibly could given my own conditions and have sacrificed alot of myself to make her happy... feels like it as all in vain ... i tried explaining to her with love , with hatred , with distance , with anger , with every possible way i could that she is the one who can make us or break us .... she would be all good for a day and then the next day back to not telling me shit ...

i almost broke up with her on my own birthday , and again explained to her all the problems in great depth.. she said she understands and give her a week to change ( i knew it was another lie )

1 week is gone , still nothing , i keep feeling betrayed by her .....

im going to school i have exam in 15 mins ... i would like some more advice here from fellow cancers
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Posted by VirgoDragirl
So you're double taurus and she double cancer. Scorpio as and gem asc. Yep, if you're frustrated, you're meant to be. Hang in there!

Stop being paranoid unless u have to.



that sounds awful

i just feel like she shouldnt have to hide stuff from me now as i have always tried to support her..

its almost been 2 years and she still doesnt completely trust me , sucks to know that
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Posted by Arielle83
You're too intense and prob demanding. You're telling her you want to know her "secrets/problems/etc" but she isn't ready to tell you and then you claim she's left YOU unsatisfied?

Sounds like maybe you don't trust her? Either way she doesn't have to tell you anything.



yes i am intense and demanding, i dont want her to reveal her secrets or anything to me, all i want is that when she is sad i want her to speak up aabout whats bothering her, she would just avoid contact or put on her fake smile, makes me feel something is missing between us, she would keep all the pain to herself even if it is related to me, she'll just cry silently , well then wtf is my use here ? if she doesnt see me as a shoulder she can rely on , wtf am trying for ? even after 2 years she isnt comfortable with me, why ? she never says whats in her mind, now i dont even know if she wants me anymore, if i give her space , she gets distant as well, now im starting to feel like fking it and go on with other girl that has been asking me to date her for sometime now...i swear as soon as i tell her i want to break up she will start crying , apologizing , telling me she will do better , she loves me more than anything blah blah bulllshat , her actions dont prove shit to me, what do i do ? exam went good
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Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Look pal, you need to remember that 2 people enter into a relationship to give to each other.

If you are doing all the giving, and she is doing all the taking, then you are in a no-win situation.

You cannot have a healthy relationship with a human being who selfishly takes without giving back.

Why don't you ram your head into the wall? Might me a more constructive use of your time than to stay in this one-sided relationship.



yeah ... i have been thinking about this now... shes just soo weak emotionally...i thought i was tough but then i met a cancer woman .
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Posted by Arielle83
Tell her you value trust in a relationship, and that if she can't trust you with her feelings you see no point. You want to move forward and you can't do that if she refuses to open up. You value the relationship but you want an open line of communication on both sides.

Do this without demanding to know her issues. There may have been something traumatic she went through and she can't process it therefore she can't share it. Just come across calm and sweet. Don't get angry.



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Didn't read a word of this post but this is what I pm someone thought it could help

Yea first time back like that with a cancer you need to do it in a group around a social event that's alive with people. Cancers can't resist fun so they'll be nice and then because she's nice I know you'll feel good pacified so you'll be nice too. But don't think if you have a good time you don't need to have the talk. It's worse then one on one if you do that because then she'll resent you for not forcing the talk and squashing beef because she will think you tried to outsmart her and pull the wool over her eyes by coming back around and not apologizing or talking about what you and her had to resolve she would think you tried to sneak back in your life. Then she will feel vulnerable and tell herself that she will never let you "win" again and she would be very resisting and veryyyy stubborn and you might never see her sweet side ever again in life. You need to have the talk first then fun. If you don't do it this way she will lose trust in you and she won't respect you much because she will see that you turned out to be not strong enough to face her headon and not strong enough to be a close friend or lover in their life. Cancers want warriors in their corner when it comes to deep friendship and love. They can't stand weak people. If you think I'm lyin then watch how open a cancer get when you take them headon. They open up and say what they mean and mean what they say. But they set you up in their trap to see if your strong enough then they watch your behavior and take score. They can't see it as a trap because they don't see it that way they see it as I'm "feeling" him out. They don't realize that their ability to get in people's mind like no other or tap into people's emotions makes some people uncomfortable because it makes people feel vulnerable and touched for the dirt time times. People don't know how to take that so it comes off as this cancer is testing me or this cancer is playing games or this cancer is psychotic. If you take her headon and don't hold back and stay bold she will probably give you that baby doll puppy dog look then smile then say what she says and mean what she means. You won't be confused about her anymore because she will be upfront and 100% her because she'll know you're strong enough to take it without breaking down. If you breakdown that makes her feel guilty and feel like she's doing a bad job of loving everyone. That's the same reaso
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That's the same reason why a cancer that you thought was silent and soooo sweet can silently approach you then beat the shit out of you once you hit them first. You get it? You get two really different sides of a cancer depending on your approach.

Adding to that

But you still have to be like them and sweet as pie and be able to switch back and forth between sweet and forceful alpha but you have to do it without getting emotional with it. Cancer wants someone with this kinda balance. Cancers are fiesty and they go to war for humanity and want to know you can't fight and love equally as hard.
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K I just read your thread. Are you really bf and gf cuz I dot see a cancer acting like this after a commitment was made. Yea somebody said it she don't trust you. She doesn't trust you and she's blown because you don't really know her so sounds like she's withdrawing or maybe losing passion. If you don't keep up the passion and consistency with a Anvers you will lose it and they will dig in the sand and disappear till their totally covered up. But demanding and controlling is the worst thing for a cancer. They are changing people with moods they like to change between emotions and keep switching with positivity. They are like butterfly's that like to fly here and there am have fun and peace. Controlling and demanding is too negative for them. Negative is good for them sometimes but strong character negative not weak ass controlling forceful negative. Like being strong in the mind and standing up for yourself and speaking out is a negative "rebellious" but is a strong negative. Controlling someone because you can't control your emotions is a weak negative. She is withdrawing from you because your weak negative energy drains her and it's overbearing. When crabs are overwhelmed they shutdown and if you can't see this part about how they work they will get sad and mopy and will detach from you until they finally fall out of love. She probably is moping because she thinks she has to get rid of you because you can't get over yourself and stop being controlling and hard. Show her your soft side and stay consistent with it until she can trust you. She doesn't trust you because she can't trust that your emotions are stable enough to really tango with her.
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That's what I mean by what I said. Talking like that to a cancer will get you dismissed. You might think you're sending one message but really your sending another message that turns them off real hard. Try a cap or a Taurus or maybe a Aries.

You said--why do I have to work all the time? These young cancers are dumb as fuck and worth nothing.

They hear-I'm having a temper tantrum because you won't give me what I want and love me when I want it. I don't get the attention I want and now I want to make you feel like shot and hurt you so I can feel better. Why do I have to put work into you when all you do is avoid me and cry like a little bitch. All I want is a challenge I want to break you but I don't want to understand you.

What they think-why won't this man ever get it. I will not give him shit till he learns how to respect me and see me as who I am and stop insulting me. I won't allow a power hungry man make my life miserable. Why should I give in? He treats me like shit and refuses to understand me.

If you say this-cancer woman I think you are the best gift given to me and you made me want to be loving and know more about what love is. Can you teach me more? It hurts me when you distance yourself from me and it makes me so angry with you that I want to insult you and curse you the hell out. I hate myself for loving you but I also wish you could be open to me and love me as much as I know you love me inside. I'm sorry if I hurt you but I don't know what to do with you because you change too much and you distance yourself from me. How can I make us better? And let me tell you how you can make us better.

They hear--this man is really in love with me and I do have a influence on him to the poit he's even vocal about every feeling he has and it's true. Damn! I piss him off that bad? Damn! I gotta do better. He wants me to teach him? Challenge excepted. Now I know for sure he's into me so now I will give him the world. I never want to hurt him anymore and I'll do whatever I have to do.

And if you change from the said part of this one they will think you were just talking just to he talking and will close up again. Cancers are like that once you've ducked up that's why you have to do all the work. Or did you duck up? Too many cancer stories.

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I already tried that.

She would be all good for 1 day then from the next its back to disappearing

Makes me feel like shit doing that begging crap for her and she still goes off doing whatever she wants , disappears, doesnt try to contact me, makes up excuses as to y she couldnt. She didnt contact me at all today, i.srsly dont feel like contacting her tomorrow at all, i know she will be back tomorrow ... I think in going flat out ignore her , tired of her shit ... Gonna wrap this up, didnt want to end this..., Any last tips ?
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She comes, used to ask her everything ok ? Busy yesterday ? She would say she was busy at home or school work , i was fine with that didnt mind at all ... It never happened in the start she would always make time for me and i would as well.. I still do ... Now every week she will come 3 or 4 days out of 7 , on weekeneds she dont show up like today .. Shes in home i know, doesnt go out.. She started avoiding me every week like this and ill always get the same reply busy at home or with school work... What kind of school work doesnt allow her to.come and.say gn ? She used to say gm and gn everyday but now not so much ... I ask her if somethings wrong she can tell me , denies it ... then it got worse she comes for about 10-15 mins then says she gtg.. Kept happening for a longg time ... I told her id like to have long deep meaningful talk with her instead of 10 or 15 mins of school talk everyday ( only thing she talks about now is her school stuff )

If i ask nicely i get her excuses .. And get avoided
If i get angry i start getting avoided after 1 day..

Heres what happens

When she finally comes out i am obviously hurt and feel ignored by her, i go along and try to keep my emotions to myself and act like nothing happened cause what if she was geniunely busy with school ? This way she talks about random stuff and nothing about us

Doing that didnt help me getting close to her

she wants me to treat her like a princess after she disappears on me, i cant do that

In these whole 2 years i didnt contact her just once like she does cause i had no way to contact her that day, she went mad saying stuff like i dont love her , i wont accept this treatment blah blah and that shes leaving me.. I have to treat her like a princess to keep it going and as soon as i confront her about her disappearing act she either doesnt wanna talk or tells me not to repeat same thing again and again that is saying that i want to have deep emotionally connecting talks with her ..

Its like she hurts me on purpose and wants me to keep treating her like shes the one

If i do anyone of the things she does to me either purposely or not she cant handle 10 mins of that while i have been handling it for a year

Im srsly very turned off by her behaviour i dont even feel like talking to her anymore cause i know its going to be for 10-15 mins then she will say she gtg... I tell her i love her at least 4-5 times a day.. i just dont feel like talking to her tomorrow at all , id
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I treat her nicely as always.But this stuff she does makes me mad being distant and all, hiding her feelings from me even when i properly ask her, still doesnt tell me, so after having enough of it i get mad like the bull i am. she will be good to me after that and the next day im nothing but nice to her and thats when she goes back to her acts.

When i treat her nicely she backs off, when i ignore her she chases me , when i want to break up she cant stop fighting for me, wtf is this ?
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Posted by Arielle83
Maybe it's cuz she's 17. You sound serious like you're looking for a wife. Why lock it down so early and for 2 years is so damn long for that age.

Maybe she isn't ready or at the same level as you.



Yeah i also feel that. Maybe She just has alot of growing up to do. Its also true that when she used to be good she was really good and its was really comfy and nice for both of us until she started doing all this.

In any kind of relationship i try to always give it my all thats y i have 4 great best buddies _??_

I would like to give it my all before moving on so later i dont regret nit trying hard enough.

Btw she was the first one to admit she loves me and wants to marry me in the future. and she was the one to talk about kids and other stuff as well

I'd like to hear starchilds reply before i take action.
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I think I got it. Think she was really into you then something mad her pull back and be insecure from that point on. She did feel safe with you at one point but sounds like she started to slowly feel disconnected with you for some reason until she finished thinking about distancing her self and then started actually distancing herself. That's the thing about cancers.thats the problem. They don't know how to tell someone that they are hurting them. It makes them feel too shellless and vulnerable. They hate having to ask people for help and they hate needing the help even more. They love to help everybody but they feel like they should be the strength that everybody looks to. That's why they feel like you should come to them because you're the one they're healing so you should come to the healer when you need it and you should be able to ask for what you want. They are oddly contradicting like this! LOL I just figured this out myself! Just right now. But if you learn to come at them in a way that makes you look like you're the healer asking to be healed they will think that you finally see them for who they are and won't feel ashame to ask for what they want and need without feeling vulnerable an awkward because they know they are sharing their secrets with someone who won't abuse their secrets or use them against the cancer. They know no matter what, you both can see eye to eye ad whatever you go through in life good or bad you can always see eye to eye. That make them trust you and that is what will make you trust them more and be more confident in the relationship. Don't be harsh. Say what you want to say but see eye to eye and be on the same page it sound like she was just a really shy person who loved you but that pushed away from you because you didn't see eye to eye in that level
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Thanks for ur detailed reply makes sense.

So u r saying i need to become a helpless little girl and let her be the man ? Fuk that

I never ask anyone for help even if ill be dying i wont ask. she should stop this bullshit healing shit cause she is in no position to heal anyone, might as well heal herself cant even do that... Sorry but dont wanna be a pussy begging her for shit. fuck this beta phaggot shit u have no pride. i dont want her to trust me anymore, ill ask her clearly m if she wants me then take me of not then gtfo
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I used to be like that doing all kind of beta shit, she probably felt in control of me that time so everything was great... I cringe whenever i remember how much of a bitch i was , sorry cant do that shit no more, she wont ever have me by thr balls ever again, guess she doesnt like that lol ... Okayyy so it all makes sense now , i went from throwing myself at her to not giving a single fuk in these 2 years. thats what changed
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Did you see her fickle side then react off it or did you see her fickle side then ask her if she felt fickle and what you see and why she is being unpredictable? This is the same shit I used to do to my friend and it drove her to the point of kicking me in the face. She would get so fucking pissed off and I would get these huge explosions in my face for what I then saw as her just trippin and being bipolar and rude. But when she shut me out in the cold with no way back in on all levels--I tried love hate violence silence blunt alpha rude behavior NOTHING WORKED. Until I thought things out from all levels and googled this site to learn more about crabs. I couldn't believe that I was the chump who actually believed in astrology and lived by it. But one thing I learned from feminine crab women is you gotta treat these delicate flowers like ladies when you admire their beauty. I know when something is rare and unique and intriguing on all levels is exciting and makes you want to be the only lucky one in the works that has it so you forget that she is a delicate flower that needs love and attention and care and you grab it up with too much excitement and intense emotions that you crumble it and pull it out of it's source of life right down to the roots. Then the beautiful flower dies right in your hands and turns brown then black and ugly but you're still stuck with your hand out wondering if you can somehow revive that once beautiful flower maybe go back in time and remember to be gentle and less intense but still powerful and loving. My cancer woman taught me how to write like this. I am actually crying and I NEVER cry over women for anything. Damn I love that woman.
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Sorry I got off track. So she is hot and cold because you are coming off as hot and cold to her too and she is just as fed up and confused as you are because you are coming off the same way she is coming off but you don't realize it. When you are trying all your tactics of love hate aloof distance silence blunt force that is coming to her as confusion not knowing what he want or need this is a unstable person that is a unpredictable person who has no control of their emotions and who can't be understood. I didn't realize this until I learned how to approach her gentleness but still be forceful and powerful with her. Now that I do that I have her full openness and honesty and I don't feel shame when I call or text her and she doesn't run away from me. Our relationship is as real ever.
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