Ok hi this is my first post, I hope I can gain some insight. This guy is cancer Leo cusp. I met him online. We chatted every day the started texting and calling most days. During this 2 week period we were getting to know each other and talked about meeting. He told me that he was once seeing a girl who non stop called and text and he did not like this. Then after the last msg I sent he disappeared no contact; so I left him alone. After 3 weeks he messaged me out of the blue I was like oh hi stranger where u been kindA thing, but encouraged chat. He started calling and wanted to meet. The first night we both had plans so it was semi arrangements to meet for a drink quite late. He called me to say it was too late I was ok about this as it was fine no concrete plans. On sat he calls saying let's meet Sunday. 2 hrs before we are due to meet he calls and says he's busy he knows he is being a @);: can I meet him later in the week , I said not really it's short notice to cancel on me don't worry about it. Was miffed. He kept calling and calling eventually I pick up. He says sorry please let's meet as planned I said I feel like it's an effort for you now but after pleading we met. We had a good first date. We liked each other. We had a kiss and a cuddle in the pub. After that date he was on my case so we dated for a while each time getting better, I guess coz we dated every other day I got a little attached but never revealed my feelings. He held my hand, kissed and cuddled me in the street so romantic. He took me to nice restaurants.. When he stayed over for the first time it was nice. He called me as soon as he went out the door. Im me all day etc I thought wow he's seeing me as gf material. Anyway the last time he stayed over I cooked for him we cuddled on the sofa. Talked about our families and friends . He blew his friends off on a sat night to spend time with me. He said I told em I was seeing my b@tch tonight and went red. In London most guys say this in a jokey term so I didn't deem it offensive. So we were intimate he hung around the next day we parted. He text me to say he was home. 48 hours I barely heard from him. One msg I replied to and blanked. The following day nothing. I panicked and thought he's gone off me, his lack of contact was apparent. So out of frustration I sent a text saying he's distant with me I've barely heard from him and it doesn't feel great. I said I like warm as opposed to hot and cold and in a roundabout way said he's great but
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I don't wanna get hurt down the line. I asked him not to reply because I felt stupid and said to take care. 48 hours since no contact from him, and now I feel like a fool. I played it cool and non clingy and then sent this stupid text. I suppose deep down I thought he was gonna finish with me and panicked and or call his bluff. But it seems I've got what I wanted and he's gone. I'm so impatient but he's so hot and cold. I'm regretting my actions now I don't know what to do.
Aghh missed out the important bit. I said we should prob call it quits.

Honestly he appear flaky from the start, he inserted the whole I don't like it when a woman call and text to SET THE TONE/PACE of how he wanted it to be with you, he said that to discourage you from having access to him so then he went into trying to CONTROL you through his lack of RESPONDING. Men that are not ready for relationships behave this way, there are a few reasons for this Casanova behavior, he's married or in a long term relationship or possibly just dating multiple women and doesn't want all of you to have too much access to him so he'll discourage you from initiating contact.
I'm not surprised he hit it and ran away that' what players do, next time you may want to consider not giving a guy the time a day once he DISPLAY this kind of in and out behavior with you from the very start because you'll only end up walking away feeling used and rejected, you'll look up and you'll be the aggressor as in initiating contact whilst he's running away, don't really see how or where you messed up, sex makes a woman feel very open and vulnerable inside and it's natural for a woman to feel the way you feel so don't be so hard on yourself but may be reconsider giving your body to a man that you hardly know or RISK the hard emotions that follow when a man decides he doesn't want much more than that with you. The text was needy but he set YOU UP to be needy from the start and you just fell into the TRAP and gave him an easy OUT. He'll be back for sex but not for much more than that.
Oh and calling you a Bitch, well I understand it could be a joke and it could be what younger kids say and do to one another but it doesn't make it right...That's a huge NO NO, I don't care if it was in a joking way, it's showing you a lack of respect.
I'm not surprised he hit it and ran away that' what players do, next time you may want to consider not giving a guy the time a day once he DISPLAY this kind of in and out behavior with you from the very start because you'll only end up walking away feeling used and rejected, you'll look up and you'll be the aggressor as in initiating contact whilst he's running away, don't really see how or where you messed up, sex makes a woman feel very open and vulnerable inside and it's natural for a woman to feel the way you feel so don't be so hard on yourself but may be reconsider giving your body to a man that you hardly know or RISK the hard emotions that follow when a man decides he doesn't want much more than that with you. The text was needy but he set YOU UP to be needy from the start and you just fell into the TRAP and gave him an easy OUT. He'll be back for sex but not for much more than that.
Oh and calling you a Bitch, well I understand it could be a joke and it could be what younger kids say and do to one another but it doesn't make it right...That's a huge NO NO, I don't care if it was in a joking way, it's showing you a lack of respect.
Ok thanks for the response. I was probably duped but got caught up in it. Tonight I get a txt saying I love you. Wtf?? Is this normal behaviour?
Ive got that he was a player now he was good at it i can normally spot them.. I responded with what you on about? Of course completely ignored. Really—! Thats just shocking behaviour
Ive got that he was a player now he was good at it i can normally spot them.. I responded with what you on about? Of course completely ignored. Really—! Thats just shocking behaviour

Posted by KittyKnitter
Cancer Leo cusps can be as sneaky as anyone else. He loves you? First he has to like you and be good at showing it. Anyone can use the word love as a magic word to get what they want. if he wants to have a place in your life, let him earn it.
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For players, casanova's, emotional seducers and pathologically disordered men it's very normal because that's how they all behave, they'll throw whatever out there in hope you'll own it and believe in it.
Don't trust anyone that throw the word "love" around so freely but hardly know who you are, he's most likely confusing love with lust.
He's proven he's not in love with you by the way he's chosen to treat you and he called you a bitch which is another indication he doesn't respect you enough to love you, IMO he's throwing the love word around to keep the sex flowing freely.
I don't know how great your self esteem is but I hope you have enough good self esteem/sense to not believe what he's saying and move on, if you don't have great self esteem then you'll most likely convince yourself he's being honest and stick around way longer than you have to basically contributing to your confusion and pain.

Tiki —
Obviously i dont believe for a second he means it, and i do have Self esteem but i was tricked. Its highly unlikely ill speak to him again i guess i just want to know why hes say something so random and be so deceitful using such a word. I thought these guys were sweet and kind not liked hurting others which it seems here no?
Obviously i dont believe for a second he means it, and i do have Self esteem but i was tricked. Its highly unlikely ill speak to him again i guess i just want to know why hes say something so random and be so deceitful using such a word. I thought these guys were sweet and kind not liked hurting others which it seems here no?

I understand Londonlady, it happens, I think most of us have experienced what you've experienced on some level but honestly it doesn't matter why he's saying such random things, men like him are deeply insecure and need validation to soothe themselves from the insecure feelings they carry around and the only way they feel they can get it is by duping women into falling in love, giving a man your heart and soul is the ULTIMATE FORM OF VALIDATION, he gets to feel great about himself which builds up his lack of self worth and the sex keeps flowing freely and all the while you are building up all these feelings and imagining your life with him he's just doing what it takes to FEED his own ego/sense of self woth. There are men out there that don't behave this way be it if he's a cancer or not, don't let one guy spoil it for all the great guys you may soon encounter.

Hi VG—
I love your avatar virgodreamz...I can relate lol
I love your avatar virgodreamz...I can relate lol
Cheers guys.. Ah well. At least I'll keep my guard up. He wasn't great in bed anyway was a bit disappointing and he always had a weird taste in his mouth bit grim..all the affection and romance was just a ploy I just thought he was in to me. His loss. I did think perhaps a mate picked up his phone and sent that as a joke on him tbh. Any advice if he comes back? Will he try?
Cheers guys.. Ah well. At least I'll keep my guard up. He wasn't great in bed anyway was a bit disappointing and he always had a weird taste in his mouth bit grim..all the affection and romance was just a ploy I just thought he was in to me. His loss. I did think perhaps a mate picked up his phone and sent that as a joke on him tbh. Any advice if he comes back? Will he try?

Yeah sure he'll come back, why wouldn't he come back, especially if your home, heart, bed and sex is still flowing freely, he won't be there when you want/need him to be but he'll keep the door jarred open for when it's convenient for him.
Aghh so question is do i tell him to get lost or ignore him completely when he tries to use me again ugg

Take responsibility for yourself. What is in your best interest? Own it as in be very honest with yourself about the situation such as if your okay with being fwb. What was your original intention for dating in the first place? Then decide for yourself what's the best thing you can do for yourself.
Depending on your age and what you want right now you may or may not decide to stay.
Depending on your age and what you want right now you may or may not decide to stay.
No not ok with it. Im 32 hes 28. I dont want that at all. Part of me wants to win and play my own game but the rational side says blank him and move on
No not ok with it. Im 32 hes 28. I dont want that at all. Part of me wants to win and play my own game but the rational side says blank him and move on

Oh you won't win and I'm not saying that to challenge you into trying, you'll only contribute to your own hurt and disappointment, find someone who really is interested in being with you and isn't flaking on you left and right, he couldn't do what he did and is doing unless you allowed him too so maybe you should take some accountability into your own behavior and figure out how to avoid these kind of men, there was a "RED FLAG" you didn't listen to from the moment he "disappeared" on you and returned 3 weeks later and that was your que to EXIT and forget about him. So in the future when a man disappear on you don't hesitate to move on or at the least put him on the back burner and not make him a priority in your life until he can demonstrate he's not a in and out flake.
Yeah i asked him where he went Said he was Busy and why didnt i contact him ? Shoulda ran! Now i think of things clearer there were other reds. He dropped in to the convo that his sisters mate fancies him but shes got fake boobs and too skinny not his type. At first i thought he was being open but now i think he was trying to make me jealous. He hogged the remote control i thought nothing but now i think he was a bit too comfortable in my house for a 2nd visit. He always Said make sure the house is gleaming for me, i found this a joke but now i see it as controlling. Dodged a bullet !
Yeah i asked him where he went Said he was Busy and why didnt i contact him ? Shoulda ran! Now i think of things clearer there were other reds. He dropped in to the convo that his sisters mate fancies him but shes got fake boobs and too skinny not his type. At first i thought he was being open but now i think he was trying to make me jealous. He hogged the remote control i thought nothing but now i think he was a bit too comfortable in my house for a 2nd visit. He always Said make sure the house is gleaming for me, i found this a joke but now i see it as controlling. Dodged a bullet !

"Yeah i asked him where he went Said he was Busy and why didnt i contact him ? Shoulda ran!"
Correct
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Oh Londonlady I empathize completely! Cancers have to be the most confusing zodiac sign there is. Hot and cold, in and out, indecisive, back and forth, up and down.
I'm gonna agree with tiki and Moon Man here. If you can handle fwb then by all means knock yourself out, but if he is crappy in bed then move on sister!
I'd blow him off and go find a man that actually WANTS to hear from you, doesn't degrade you and respects your space as YOUR space. If you choose to stick it out then I hope you don't get queasy on the rollercoaster because that's pretty much what you are in for. Don't worry about playing it cool and not telling him how you felt, that just gives him more power to mess with you. I'd just blow him off and go find a man that wants to be with you and lets you know from the start!
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I'm gonna agree with tiki and Moon Man here. If you can handle fwb then by all means knock yourself out, but if he is crappy in bed then move on sister!
I'd blow him off and go find a man that actually WANTS to hear from you, doesn't degrade you and respects your space as YOUR space. If you choose to stick it out then I hope you don't get queasy on the rollercoaster because that's pretty much what you are in for. Don't worry about playing it cool and not telling him how you felt, that just gives him more power to mess with you. I'd just blow him off and go find a man that wants to be with you and lets you know from the start!
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Thanks for your responses. I seem clearer now and feel positive today. Just not worth my time anymore. Let him do it to someone else least I'm out and can't get hurt anymore.
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