capmen and emotional outbursts

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Not that I am taking Brans side (cos Bran and I have had our run-ins..lol) but I do agree to some extent..Capricorn/virgo both earth signs have a lot of similarities..The Caps I have come across do pay too much attention to detail, critical, traditional, condescending, snobbish and yeah very insecure deep down but that would never surface..only when he becomes sensitive does it show what they are truly feeling..But its wrong to generalise cos not all humans are the same..just cos they share the same star sign..
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I've noticed my cap doesn't like to deal w/drama, so if I have a problem or give him an emotional outburst, he usually calms me down and somehow makes it better. The only time I've ever got really emotional and cried in front of him was when he told me he had slept w/that other chick. Other than that I'm pretty calm, and am in control of myself. He doesn't like a pushover and really respects that I stand up for myself.
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Hey MyCap~ so what's the latest then? Talked to him since he got back? He is Blmton pd then? I told this new cap. about getting pulled over this weekend, twice it happened! I feel like I may have scared him off! It was so silly though- I got let go w/o even giving my license and registration yesterday; they said I "jumped" the light, and wanted to make sure I was "okay". And I have a spotless drivers records for the last 10 yrs. which I told this Cap. so hopefully he's not thinking I'm some weirdo!!
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All-I was holding back on making this comment but thought for a few minutes and then decided what the heck. Hang in there...this is a long posting but I hope you will find some value!
As my name would suggest I am a Capricorn woman and happen to agree 100% with the postings our male friend "branh" has made. These are very keen observations that may be painful for some of you to read but are to a large degree true all the same. I will raise my hand and admit that in the name of love I have done many of the things "branh" mentions (well except for yell, I don't yell when I get mad I just cry). But, I am a woman and the fact is I am emotional. As little girls we were allowed to be emotional, more so than little boys and this is something that we carry throughout our lives..live with it learn how to manage it. I have played games too thinking of course that we are the smarter sex and can make any man love us...of course we all know you cannot make someone love you or want to be with you... so why play, no one wins. And the comment that our male friend said that I think is the most important thing for all of us to think about relates to our creation of "fantasy" although I prefer not to call it "fantasy" but "modern day survival instincts". Deep in your heart or your head you must know it is true that as women when we meet a man we think about very different things vs. men. As women we are genetically, biologically, primally hard-wired by nature to look for a man who will be a good provider for our offspring. It's subliminal ladies but it's true even if you say you don't want children! This is not new it's how the human species procreates. So...modern day survial instincts have us meet a man and after a couple of dates the thought at some point does cross your mind..."what would our children look like", "will he be a good father", "could I wake up every morning with this man in my bed?". All part of our modern day survial...oh there are variations on this but the goal is the same, to determine if a man will be a good "provider". Men on the other hand are genetically, biologically, primally hard-wired by nature to ensure their genetic heritage is passed along, survial of the fittest! So...what does a man think when he first meets a woman? "How quickly can I have sex with this woman". Oh he may be thinking is there a future? but at least initially future only means "future sex". So herein lies the conflict when men and women are in the dating phase of a relationship. Women want monogamous long term relationships (these are after all the ones that help us provide for our children and continue the survial of our species) and we thus "fantasize" or deliberate our man in that role. Men on the other have a strong desire to continue their genetic line and thus fantasize about sex. Lust by the way is also primal and can be experienced by both partners at the same time and is the mutual attraction that brings us together in the first place. So then, if we understand why each of the sexes think differently what do we do— Well if I had that answer my friends I wouldn't be typing on this message board. But knowledge is key and in the end we are curious creatures and are all searching for answers. I have said it before I will say it again, I am not a doctor in medicine or love but I am a scientist and I promise, this one is in writing and the research goes back long before any of us were born! Understand and embrace the differences...we were after all meant to be with them and them with us!
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CapGirl: No, my intent was specifically not to offer any advice. I am offering my explanation as to why there is often conflict in the early stages of a relationship. If pressed for my advice I would say it would be that when in doubt or crisis try to UNDERSTAND it before you act. By the way, understanding really isn't getting a bunch of women to agree with you're gut reaction although I will admit to using this tactic in the past.

You can't explain love but sometimes, just sometimes it helps to understand why it exists to begin with and to understand that both men and women behave in ways that are often controlled by things other than our conscious mind. That's my point.
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so never show your weaker side even if he hurts your feelings. Just act like everything is ok...or if is not ok, calmly tell him what is bothering you and try to work things out?....and if he is a complete and utter ass, and when you break up, confidently slam the door and never speak to him again. All with an emotionless face.

mostly i was just wondering what kind women capmen prefer... lol..maybe i should start a new thread with that topic... unless its been done.

anyway, i appreciate everyone's comments. 🙂
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Hi Sagibot,

I am new here, however I am a Cappy female with nothing but Cappy men as friends family and my ex b/f!!

Cap men do not mind a woman expressing her emotions, he will appreciate and value your honesty and courage to do so. There is a trick to this though. 1)You can not try to talk about feelings that will move the relationship too fast for him - you will make him run. 2)You can not get emotional, meaning no crying or fits of rage or drama - he will view this as a lack of control and Cap men do not like people who cannot display control of their emotions.

So, your answer is YES... Cappy men do not like a very emotional woman and they cannot stand a weak woman... but you can express yourself without them thinking that you are emotional and/or weak!

Hope this helps!
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Branh~ you are a certified idiot. Caprionna just said basically what you're saying- as did WTML, which is to state your mind and feelings without an emotional display or pressing the guy for a commitment or reciprocation of feelings. Helloooo... can you read and comprehend what you've read?? Dude, I wish you'd just scurry back to Virgo-land bc. you're of no real contribution here, except to bash and criticize.... Yeah, with an occasional valuable tidbit, here and there, but for the most part... we don't need ya!
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i don't think cap men look for emotional women, but i do think that they very well appreciate it when they understand what it means to be emotional. it really does depend on the person. i can sorta say that they don't wanna be seen as emotional because they like to have a serious outlook. however, they are comfortable with your concerns as well, because it lets them know that you care, too. they're pretty reasonable with everything.
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Okay, well, now Brahn has once again flipped over to giving sound advice. (It helps when the advice leaves out directly attacking women and people on this board.) I have agreed that it's not about Capricorn men- if guys are disappearing and going into their caves, or whatnot, they could be not interested, commitment-phobic, or stringing you, or busy but I buy that less so. What baffles us, Branh, and has created this "Cap. male phenomenon" is that these guys won't just get lost for good and end it, say they're not interested, etc. They keep coming back around, just when you've moved on and think it's done. And there's not even sex being offered, so it's not about a booty call. From what I've read, which is alot of stuff outside the astrology realm, that is what has been classified as a man who fears commitment- even the most basic forms of commitment.


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thank you Branh, that was very enlightening, truly...I suppose many of us(women I mean) always have the idea of the fear men have but you wrote it very well. I think speaking for myself then what is so frustrating is these same men who are so afraid of getting their hearts stomped on truly miss out as many of us when we truly love someone instead of it dying and drying up grows into something almost profound. and then there are the men you described, (and I've known so many) who have the "grass could be greener" attitude, although you compared it to buying a book, even the men who do commit ie; get married, still walk around with that attitude, hence the reason why at least personally, i have many many married men who would love to get together with me, because " their wives and they have drifted apart" most likely they just want some variety, being the player types. They not only want the "best book" they want a variety of books. I guess in some sense we really might have to trace it back to the caveman mentality of sowing oats while the women tend the hearth.
but all that said, even understanding the mind-set still makes it extremely difficult for some of us women who really are good loving people who end up getting frustrated, disgusted and eventually, hopeless as to finding a good man
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APW, this one time i was just thinking about men and women and cheating. It made me feel hopeless and sad. It happens to both sexes.. there is always going to be some one "better" or different or more appealing whatever around the corner... and i was thinking of how long term married couples deal with that. In my experience with men i have felt nieve and stupid and young. I felt like a lamb surrounded by wolves. And in a larger scale have pictured all women as lambs.. as tender meat that is there for the mens taking... like they want a herd if they could. I dont want to be a lamb. How does a woman build confidence and become strong and wise yet still hold on to some innosence and her femininity?

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I know, it IS sad isn't it? I know so many people, men and women who are not at all happy in their marriages, relationships whatever. What started out as "till death do us part" ends in "there's someone better out there for me" I think sometimes it simply comes down to unreal expectations, no one is ever "perfect" for anyone and no one person can possibly fulfill ALL our emotional needs. i think that is why my ideal relationship truly is two people who are individuals and independent with their own lives, friends, likes dislikes and such who form a partnership somewhere in the middle. I myself have never wanted to be joined at the hip with anyone. I think though that is where trust and respect comes in and is so vital to a healthy relationship. if a person can trust that the other person is being true so to speak to them, it won't matter that they have outside interests friends and times apart. It's when mistrust enters the relationship that one becomes clingy, needy and desperate. One theory I have regarding long lasting healthy relationships is that the two people need to from time to time fall in love all over again. and I'm not speaking of the hearts and flowers things, it can be as simple as looking across the room and noticing the other person doing something mundane such as taking out the garbage and they smile at you and you realize, "wow I really love this person" I have experienced this, unfortunately for various reasons it/they/we did not "live happily ever after" but this is my hope and dream. and so many times I wish to give up entirely thinking that it's an impossible dream, but to quote that old rolling stones song, lose your dreams and you may lose your mind.