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So I have been seeing this Capricorn man for a short time and he definitely perused me at first and eventually I gave in and I really like him, BUT his behavior is baffling.

He always sends a sweet "goodmorning" text, he calls me cute pet names already (less than a month in)..."babe", "sweetie", "gorgeous"...but he doesn't make a ton of effort to hear about my day or really get to know me much on a daily basis. When we see each other there is some really extreme chemistry and he will once in awhile ask me deeper questions...at lunch he asked me what I was looking for in a guy and then when I answered and reversed the question on him he quickly changed the subject.

He seems confident, has been single awhile, has his shit together from what I can tell, so I'm not sure if he is seeking reassurance from me, but he will randomly just not text or go missing from a text conversation and when I am sweet or compliment him is the only time he really says it back. I'm a Gemini so I like to chase, which usually doesn't go well for me because men also like to chase, but whenever I leave him be or am a little aloof in the conversation, it will go nowhere...he won't pick it up and take the lead, it's so frustrating. He is consistent in very small communication, but VERY slow in making plans, etc.

We have not slept together, I have been very communicative that I like him and like I said, that's the only time he will communicate how he feels back is when he is simply reciprocating what I am saying. Like....me: "mmm you are such a good kisser, wish I was still there" him: "I know, I didn't want you to leave"...yeah that's nice but I'm not getting anything like that out of him on his own.

The only time he really said anything like that, he was drunk (I should get him drunk more) and he told me he knew he felt something between us the first time we met.

So...how do I proceed here? I need/want more communication and attention. I don't really mind if that comes across as needy, I'm a very independent person, but I am well aware of what makes me happy emotionally and these little scraps aren't it. Maybe I am just too annoying for him? 😄
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Caps are really funny like that--they wont say i love you until you say it first they dont ever want to appear like they care more or feel more...they are on guard, self preservation mode always..sad way to operate in life but thats how they are..

if you say i love you to a cap to soon they question it if you don't say it they don't open up..lmaoo which one is it?
Credit Balblair for these words of wisdom!!!

this is why caps and i dont gel well personally in a relationship--i understand what you mean when you say their unemotional...on the surface they are but they feel very deeply and are very sensitive--you will never know that unless you show them your cards first..i have tons of caps around me...they have the same relationship issues

i could never be with a man whose that guarded as an adult..it doesnt make any sense..you love and will be loved...the end.

they say i do so much for xyz i dont know why thats not enough--i tell them people want to emotionally connect to you--for them thats way to vulnerable..

i personally feel like this is being emotionally immature and who wants to be with someone you have to pry open...also asking you how your doing? hows your day? how are you feeling? are common things people do in relationship..caps dont really operate like that- so you really have to ask yourself will this work

sex will always be good with a cap that is the one thing they do openly and willingly often--is that enough to sustain a relationship nope!

good luck.
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Well it's not work because he works evenings and I never bug him when he's at work (I'm annoying but no typically THAT annoying). And he does text me but unless I keep the conversation going with questions and flirting it's usually just him saying good morning which is sweet sure. As far as plans, that's been a pretty mutual thing, he asked me to lunch last Monday and it was nice and then we only hung Sunday because we ran into each other. On sat night he said I should come meet up with him and his friends and I agreed and he kept telling me he would keep me posted and let me know where they were going to end up but he never did, Sunday we had plans originally to watch football together but I was annoyed at him from Saturday night so I just made other plans and then we ended up running into each other anyway. I told him he should have just hung with his friends on Saturday and not tried to include me if he was gonna be so wishy washy (I'm straight forward) and he apologized and that was that we had a great time together and I charmed all of his friends into loving me. I guess there is a lack of words AND action which is my concern but I agree it is too soon to really judge. I have a Virgo moon I analyze myself into insomnia.
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Posted by faith $ golphin
--you will never know that unless you show them your cards first..
Hopefully I quoted you on this right...
Anyway luckily I have zero problems expressing my emotions clearly and concisely without all the fat. Just the meat. I tend not to scare men away while still being able to make sure they know I like them and admire them. Sometimes I'm full of shit, but even I'm not sure when those times are. My point is, I have totally laid my cards on the table for him while maintaining my integrity. I'm just annoyed I am having to do all the verbal work.

My love language is clearly words of affirmation and that's why I'm giving him words of affirmation, because I'm projecting. I wish instead of introducing ourselves with our names we would tell the person our love language "hi, nice to meet you, I need words of affirmation, tell me I'm pretty" and he could be like "hi, I'm physical touch, give me a massage."
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Girl, when you figure him out, let me know! I still don't know what the cap man I'm interested in wants. Mixed signals like crazy...talkative, then silence. Likes me then seems annoyed. Wants a physical relationship, then wants to wait. They say it's not their way of playing games...but I ant figure out what else all of that could be!!! Good luck!
Haha good luck to you too. This is my second cap, the first one was way different. I had him figured out in two weeks and was over him in three (still friendly).
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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
Thank god I don't get more attached after sex, but that sounds awful regardless haha. Funny enough I told him last night I didn't like his inconsistency and he expressed that he was making effort and that he felt I turned cold so that's why he did. Clearly I have no idea how to deal with this man. Most men catch the signal like "hey she's not giving me loving attention anymore, let me give her some until she comes back"....not capricorn man. If you ice him out, he will ice you out right back twice as cold. This man clearly needs me to take the lead on communication and I don't know that I really want to commit to doing that if it's never going to get any better on his part. I want to be adored too damnit.
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There are many, many core differences in a cap and gem and this is just one of them.

You need to learn to read his actions and appreciate them for what they are. Caps are not comfortable communicating feelings with people and you need to accept this. If you keep pushing it, he will feel pressured and perhaps even resentful, so learn to be happy with what you get.

You've only been with him a short while. Caps take time to warm up to people and in order for them to open up, we must feel like we are in a safe place to do so. Gems tend to be inconsistent, which does not instill a place of safety. So, my advice to you is be consistent. Make sure your words match your actions.

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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
Thank god I don't get more attached after sex, but that sounds awful regardless haha. Funny enough I told him last night I didn't like his inconsistency and he expressed that he was making effort and that he felt I turned cold so that's why he did. Clearly I have no idea how to deal with this man. Most men catch the signal like "hey she's not giving me loving attention anymore, let me give her some until she comes back"....not capricorn man. If you ice him out, he will ice you out right back twice as cold. This man clearly needs me to take the lead on communication and I don't know that I really want to commit to doing that if it's never going to get any better on his part. I want to be adored too damnit.
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Those "signals" you talk about feel like games to a cap, which if he thinks you're playing games, then it will take him even longer to come around.

And in your first post, you stated that he only complements you when you complement him. So, if you only complement him in order to get him to complement you.....that's a game you're playing. It may not be on purpose, or even a conscious effort, but it's still a game and the more you complement him, it could come across as insincere.
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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
Thank god I don't get more attached after sex, but that sounds awful regardless haha. Funny enough I told him last night I didn't like his inconsistency and he expressed that he was making effort and that he felt I turned cold so that's why he did. Clearly I have no idea how to deal with this man. Most men catch the signal like "hey she's not giving me loving attention anymore, let me give her some until she comes back"....not capricorn man. If you ice him out, he will ice you out right back twice as cold. This man clearly needs me to take the lead on communication and I don't know that I really want to commit to doing that if it's never going to get any better on his part. I want to be adored too damnit.
Those "signals" you talk about feel like games to a cap, which if he thinks you're playing games, then it will take him even longer to come around.

And in your first post, you stated that he only complements you when you complement him. So, if you only complement him in order to get him to complement you.....that's a game you're playing. It may not be on purpose, or even a conscious effort, but it's still a game and the more you complement him, it could come across as insincere.
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Funny about consistency because he texted me yesterday finally and was like sorry I was MIA today, I know you like consistency so I was trying to give it to you I just got busy. It's true, for a gemini I HATE inconsistency and when peoples actions and words don't match. I will just continue being genuine to him and keeping clear consistent communication without going overboard. I could totally be subconsciously only complimenting him for his response although nothing I've said has been untrue, if it's too flowery I'm sure any man would question the sincerity. At this point I'm not sure this will go anywhere, I'm curious about the sex though so I'll stick it out.
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Caps focus more on action than words. You seem to be frustrated at his lack of words. What does his actions tell you?
It's a common problem among many women in general. They're too brainwashed to realise that actions speak louder than words and tacky sentiments.

Fools!

Geminis, being Geminis, are going to crave more verbal attention. But, the problem is, talk is cheap.

Any player can tell a woman what they want to hear but, in the long-run, those words are nothing without something more substantial (i.e. actions) to back them up with.
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Agreed, but I'm no fool, and certainly not brainwashed into anything...I simply know what makes me feel comfortable and loved and for me it happens to be words. His actions haven't been enough for me to read either so I'll just be patient. He needs to schedule a date soon or I'll really start to lean toward him not being that interested, which is fine too.
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Then leave the man be. You won't get what you want from him if what you "NEED" is communication. It ain't gonna happen. No amount of pushing, whining, flirting, or suggesting will get him to change, and why should it?

Dating and getting to know people is all about accepting them as they are. If you want a project, learn to crochet and make yourself a sweater to get that nimble mind of yours something to focus on. You're asking too much and expecting too much from someone you DON'T EVEN KNOW!

Now, there may be some folks on here who don't believe Geminis and Capricorns can/should/would/could make a good couple in a romantic relationship.... And I would have to agree UNLESS each is willing to take on the traits of the other. Gem/Cap relations are awesome in my eyes because Caps have what we Gems crave (stability)... But it can only last if we in turn GIVE BACK to our Caps. Emulate his behavior and you'll be that much closer to him.

Listen to these folks (especially trucap because I'm biased and have a bit of a lady crush on her (lol), she's so fucking smart and KNOWS what she's talking about!) when they tell you ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. For a Cap, this is key knowledge. I'm a Gemini and I recently met a Capricorn guy at a new job I started. His eyes were the first thing I saw when I walked through the front door and I was immediately smitten like a damn kitten! I IMMEDIATELY began to chase, in that quirky and confident Gem way, just to let him know I was into him.... WRONG move! He shut down, became standoffish and quiet... Oops!

I came here (as I always do) and polished my knowledge of the Cap male by reading about others' mistakes so I wouldn't make them myself. I also pulled on the friendship I've had with a Cap lady that has lasted for nearly 14 years now. I have to thank the stars that I'm not a "normal" Gem, I have lots of water and earth placements that don't let me get too carried away. I harnessed my Scorpio and Virgo placements, started to LOVE MYSELF before anyone, and worked towards being a Whole Person (NOT looking for a "missing piece").

As I pulled back, this Cap guy immediately, and silently, stepped forward! I suddenly kept getting these loooooong intense looks from him. Like... Stupid long looks, not even glances. I've noticed that If I just come and stand by him and just BE, HE'D fill in that empty space with words. I would make sure to do the same thing, talk with my actions. I would take him things he may have left in an odd place to his desk, or to him personally (and then walk away, NOT waiting for praise) knowing he probably was checking me out as I moved on with my life. He'd do funny things like position himself behind me in a group to make sure my hands never tough a door when its opened. The less I depend on him, the more he wants me to. We tease each other and flirt in all good fun. He calls me his "bestie" now and I've only known him for 2 months. (to be continued)
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I KNOW that if I tried all the other tactics that I've used before while dating other men I wouldn't have gotten as close as I have to this Cap guy so soon. He's my buddy! I'm "safe" to him because I ask for nothing... So I get EVERYTHING! His hopes, dreams, likes, dislikes. Maaan, this guy will talk your ear off, IF you give him the silence (and TIME) to do so. So much so that when I do decide to speak he goes completely silent, locks, eyes with me, and hands on to my every word because him learning about me in how a PRIVILEGED and no longer an ANNOYANCE.

I think to think of Caps as old computers that need a bit too boot-up. What happens if you have an old computer and you try to start it but won't give it time to load (clicking puttons multiple times, etc.) it FREEZES and forces you to either WAIT INDEFINITELY or restart it... Caps DON"T have a restart button, suggah.

But, tis your life and you make of it as you wish. I say be patient (a word that isn't often understood by us Gems, and goodness knows I've learned a lot from him) because it IS key when it comes to learning about these Sea Goats. Again, it all goes back to learning from each other and letting him take the lead. In the meantime, do your own Gemmie thing! Have friends, go places, talk to people, read, and make yourself busy. The hours/days he's gone will fly by and he'll be back, rested and ready to be in your company again 😄
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
Thank god I don't get more attached after sex, but that sounds awful regardless haha. Funny enough I told him last night I didn't like his inconsistency and he expressed that he was making effort and that he felt I turned cold so that's why he did. Clearly I have no idea how to deal with this man. Most men catch the signal like "hey she's not giving me loving attention anymore, let me give her some until she comes back"....not capricorn man. If you ice him out, he will ice you out right back twice as cold. This man clearly needs me to take the lead on communication and I don't know that I really want to commit to doing that if it's never going to get any better on his part. I want to be adored too damnit.
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That's good to hear you don't get attached after sex. I still haven't figured it out yet on how to deal with my friend because my emotion get in the way!!! Let me know how to deal with him after you figure it out!
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I KNOW that if I tried all the other tactics that I've used before while dating other men I wouldn't have gotten as close as I have to this Cap guy so soon. He's my buddy! I'm "safe" to him because I ask for nothing... So I get EVERYTHING! His hopes, dreams, likes, dislikes. Maaan, this guy will talk your ear off, IF you give him the silence (and TIME) to do so. So much so that when I do decide to speak he goes completely silent, locks, eyes with me, and hands on to my every word because him learning about me in how a PRIVILEGED and no longer an ANNOYANCE.

I think to think of Caps as old computers that need a bit too boot-up. What happens if you have an old computer and you try to start it but won't give it time to load (clicking puttons multiple times, etc.) it FREEZES and forces you to either WAIT INDEFINITELY or restart it... Caps DON"T have a restart button, suggah.

But, tis your life and you make of it as you wish. I say be patient (a word that isn't often understood by us Gems, and goodness knows I've learned a lot from him) because it IS key when it comes to learning about these Sea Goats. Again, it all goes back to learning from each other and letting him take the lead. In the meantime, do your own Gemmie thing! Have friends, go places, talk to people, read, and make yourself busy. The hours/days he's gone will fly by and he'll be back, rested and ready to be in your company again 😄
That is wonderful advise...especially about emulating him. However, I tried that yesterday...I didn't text him as much and just let him be and he didn't like it! He told me at the end of the day that he felt I wasn't interested so he wasn't going to try if he felt I wasn't interested. I was like wtf it was the first day I haven't flirted with him via text and kept conversation going...I wasn't being cold or playing games I was simply letting him come to me when he wanted to so as not to make him feel pressure or that I was overly needy/impatient. Any advise on how exactly I should step back while also making sure he knows I like him? Seems like a fine line for him!

He texted yesterday around noon and just said he hoped I was having a good day and I simply replied "thank you it's good but busy, I hope yours is good too!" and he never responded and then later told me it's because it wasn't anything to respond to hahaha. Well in my mind I was being sweet and to the point so as not to bombard him, because normally I would have chatted on about my morning and how much coffee I had had and was bouncing off the walls, that I missed him, etc. So this time I was like I'll emulate his simple communication and it totally backfired.

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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
That is good to know. Thankfully I am pretty convicted in my opinions/beliefs. The only "negative" Gemini trait I truly have is starting projects and not being able to finish them. A true jack of all trades master of none. I am EXTREMELY irritated by the same things it sounds like you were irritated by about your Gemini such as changing your mind about things that were talked about together. That would piss me off. I could never date a Gemini for that reason. I think I relate much more to being a Virgo (my moon) as far as my relationships with other people, but with the lightheadedness of a Gemini in my general temperament. Still I find myself to be annoying as a romantic prospect which is when I'm like shit I'm such a Gemini.
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
I've read tons of threads that had you stellar advice in it and you've helped me realize so much!

I understand how horrible and selfish we Gems can be, I'm guilty of it too. We get so caught up in our sheer awesomeness that we don't usually think we have to change at all.. and yet we're willing to FORCE others to change for us. We're jerks. I read a few things you've posted mentioning your ex and all I could do is shake my head. If ONLY he molded to you and learned from you instead of being crazy inconsistent. I HATE inconsistency now, but I used to be horribly flaky as a child/teen. We Gems need to learn to get over ourselves so we can grow and mature. The world won't revolve around us forever and we fear that! So we hold on to our childish ways in hopes that the world will stop turning , just for us (selfish, much?), and we'll stay in our Happy Place forever. Many Gem men have Peter Pan Syndrome for this very reason. I've read that you're much happier with your Aqua anyway!

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And Pandola, I think you've got it figured out. Very good advice on how to handle a cap. 🙂
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That is wonderful advise...especially about emulating him. However, I tried that yesterday...I didn't text him as much and just let him be and he didn't like it! He told me at the end of the day that he felt I wasn't interested so he wasn't going to try if he felt I wasn't interested. I was like wtf it was the first day I haven't flirted with him via text and kept conversation going...I wasn't being cold or playing games I was simply letting him come to me when he wanted to so as not to make him feel pressure or that I was overly needy/impatient. Any advise on how exactly I should step back while also making sure he knows I like him? Seems like a fine line for him!

He texted yesterday around noon and just said he hoped I was having a good day and I simply replied "thank you it's good but busy, I hope yours is good too!" and he never responded and then later told me it's because it wasn't anything to respond to hahaha. Well in my mind I was being sweet and to the point so as not to bombard him, because normally I would have chatted on about my morning and how much coffee I had had and was bouncing off the walls, that I missed him, etc. So this time I was like I'll emulate his simple communication and it totally backfired.
Ouchie! Analyze the scenario and look at what you did... You suddenly became inconsistent LOL! Since you've started this "lets talk all day, every day, initiated by me!" thing, that's what he's going to expect. You pulled back (stopped the flow of energy to his ego) and he became defensive (because he's grown accustomed and dependent of your ego stroking to = you caring for him). Don't do this too much or you'll have a lazy Cappie who things he can do no wrong in your eyes. These folks are simple and uncomplicated creatures. The best way to deal with them is by being yourself but also adjusting that Self to vibrate at the same frequency he is.

This is what I mean when I said "emulate his behavior". We Gems can be vindictive ("OH! You're gonna shut me out? Kay, two can play at that game and I'mma play it harder than you for even putting me though this shit!"); I have a feeling you were coming from this place. Not a good thing. Game playing is for children and your Cap is looking for a Woman. My Cap dude called me a girl once and I shot him a deadly look, smirked, and said "Oh, but I'm a woman." I got that adorable, cheeky grin of his. I got RESPECT in that very instant it took for me to say those 5 words.

My advice would be to take a page out of his book. Text but keep it light and simple. If you've thought of something but you'll be seeing him soon (within the next 3 days) save it for then so y'all will have shit to talk about. If you do text him, keep it short. I agree with him, I wouldn't have responded to your text either. There was nothing left to say.
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I've read tons of threads that had you stellar advice in it and you've helped me realize so much!

I understand how horrible and selfish we Gems can be, I'm guilty of it too. We get so caught up in our sheer awesomeness that we don't usually think we have to change at all.. and yet we're willing to FORCE others to change for us. We're jerks. I read a few things you've posted mentioning your ex and all I could do is shake my head. If ONLY he molded to you and learned from you instead of being crazy inconsistent. I HATE inconsistency now, but I used to be horribly flaky as a child/teen. We Gems need to learn to get over ourselves so we can grow and mature. The world won't revolve around us forever and we fear that! So we hold on to our childish ways in hopes that the world will stop turning , just for us (selfish, much?), and we'll stay in our Happy Place forever. Many Gem men have Peter Pan Syndrome for this very reason. I've read that you're much happier with your Aqua anyway!

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It is SO true...I completely need to remind myself constantly to get over myself. I'm a very devout meditator and I'm a bit of a loner so it has allowed me to do a lot of reflecting, but it does NOT come natural for me (and probably you either) to be humble and allow myself to accept critisism or even accept that I'm not God's gift to life haha. I am constantly expecting others to change when I myself am not....at least we are aware of it, that's the first (and a huge) step toward becoming better and more well-rounded. It hasn't come easy to me! I'm 30 and just now becoming more in tune with myself enough to see my flaws and have the willingness to change. That's why this Capricorn is a little significant...he's the first guy where I'm like NO I'm gonna stick this out and learn something.

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Ouchie! Analyze the scenario and look at what you did... You suddenly became inconsistent LOL! Since you've started this "lets talk all day, every day, initiated by me!" thing, that's what he's going to expect. You pulled back (stopped the flow of energy to his ego) and he became defensive (because he's grown accustomed and dependent of your ego stroking to = you caring for him). Don't do this too much or you'll have a lazy Cappie who things he can do no wrong in your eyes. These folks are simple and uncomplicated creatures. The best way to deal with them is by being yourself but also adjusting that Self to vibrate at the same frequency he is.

This is what I mean when I said "emulate his behavior". We Gems can be vindictive ("OH! You're gonna shut me out? Kay, two can play at that game


I truly don't want to play games and haven't meant to...in my eyes I was more just trying to make him feel comfortable while not overwhelming him, but yes I was completely stroking his ego and he sure as shit didn't like it when I stopped. I just need to set myself in the same pace or "frequency" as you said as him. This is so fresh, it could go either way. I just wanted to actually try to adjust rather than assume it's just not a match and move on like I normally do.
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I truly don't want to play games and haven't meant to...in my eyes I was more just trying to make him feel comfortable while not overwhelming him, but yes I was completely stroking his ego and he sure as shit didn't like it when I stopped. I just need to set myself in the same pace or "frequency" as you said as him. This is so fresh, it could go either way. I just wanted to actually try to adjust rather than assume it's just not a match and move on like I normally do.
THAT.

This relationship is indeed "fresh" so stop looking so far in the future and placing your hopes and dreams on him. He's just a Human Dude like many of the Human Dudes that are walking around out there. He's special in his own right but he ain't that special. Everyone deserves to be loved in the way they WANT to be loved. If his behavior annoys you NOW and you aren't even in a committed and exclusive relationship with him then why wait until you are and then have an emotional history? Do yourself, and him, a favor and end it if you aren't able to sit back and let him do the work. If you do decide to stay, be that lovely mutable (flexible) sign you are and adjust yourself to him. It's MUCH easier for us to change ourselves than it is form them to ^^
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You can handle it now because you never had sex with him but when he get your but in bed and rock you to sleep with good sex, you will be driving yourself crazy. What happens after you have the best sex of your life and he pulls back on you. What happens when he start acting cold and distant for no apparent reason at all? How are you gonna react? If you can handle that then maybe he for you. I can't handle that!!! My friend been a jerk like this for 7 years and its mind boggling. Its a lot of work with these men.
Thank god I don't get more attached after sex, but that sounds awful regardless haha. Funny enough I told him last night I didn't like his inconsistency and he expressed that he was making effort and that he felt I turned cold so that's why he did. Clearly I have no idea how to deal with this man. Most men catch the signal like "hey she's not giving me loving attention anymore, let me give her some until she comes back"....not capricorn man. If you ice him out, he will ice you out right back twice as cold. This man clearly needs me to take the lead on communication and I don't know that I really want to commit to doing that if it's never going to get any better on his part. I want to be adored too damnit.
That's good to hear you don't get attached after sex. I still haven't figured it out yet on how to deal with my friend because my emotion get in the way!!! Let me know how to deal with him after you figure it out!
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Ok so update....

My Capricorn has done a TOTAL 180. After I just plainly told him I like consistency and to feel like the person I'm spending my time with is just as excited about me as I am about them (and not just reciprocating my excitement)...he has been SO AMAZING. We have only been hanging out for a month and last night he joked I should be his girlfriend already and I said "we can't do that this early" and he's like "I know...I'm kidding, but you will be my girlfriend eventually anyway, I've never liked anyone this much this fast." I mean sure it's still the butterflies stage, but once I was open and honest and not pushy with him, everything changed.
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Ok so update....

My Capricorn has done a TOTAL 180. After I just plainly told him I like consistency and to feel like the person I'm spending my time with is just as excited about me as I am about them (and not just reciprocating my excitement)...he has been SO AMAZING. We have only been hanging out for a month and last night he joked I should be his girlfriend already and I said "we can't do that this early" and he's like "I know...I'm kidding, but you will be my girlfriend eventually anyway, I've never liked anyone this much this fast." I mean sure it's still the butterflies stage, but once I was open and honest and not pushy with him, everything changed.
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See!

Amazing things happen when you step outside your own reality and try to approach someone from their own personal view 😄

You stopped chasing, calmed your lovely Gem mind, made a decision (AND stuck to it!), opened yourself (honestly), and pulled back to allow him to step up! He even did so with words, just like you wanted (see, he was listening)!

Good Luck 😄
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
gosh truecap, just reading that is horrible. i can't stand the inconsistensies with beliefs, actions ect.

you have alot of PATIENCE and endurance to stand that. I can't even be around someone like that in friendship/platonic. I'd get a headache and go cray.

someone should give you a MEDAL. the endurance and patience of a double cap. with Scorpio venus /rising, no less.

I feel honestly after learning alot of astrology in the past several years that a gemini/cap can work if the cap has gemini in personal planets, or is gem dominant. or the gemini has dominant cap energy in personal planets. I see that consistently, that dominant gemini with dominant gemini no matter the sun sign.

or they are sag dominant (their opposite) the way Elvis Presley (sag rising) with libra venus and a 3rd house moon married a Gemini sun/Scorpio moon Priscilla Presley.

Also in real life, my cancer gf has a Gemini mother and a Cap father. Indeed you can see the big difference where he is DEFINITELY the patriarchial father figure, dominant figure in the family, but her Gemini mother is a good woman and she follows him, as you can clearly see that she does what he says. Plus, she's also very serious. (i'm pretty sure she has very serious placements too)


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That is wonderful advise...especially about emulating him. However, I tried that yesterday...I didn't text him as much and just let him be and he didn't like it! He told me at the end of the day that he felt I wasn't interested so he wasn't going to try if he felt I wasn't interested. I was like wtf it was the first day I haven't flirted with him via text and kept conversation going...I wasn't being cold or playing games I was simply letting him come to me when he wanted to so as not to make him feel pressure or that I was overly needy/impatient. Any advise on how exactly I should step back while also making sure he knows I like him? Seems like a fine line for him!

He texted yesterday around noon and just said he hoped I was having a good day and I simply replied "thank you it's good but busy, I hope yours is good too!" and he never responded and then later told me it's because it wasn't anything to respond to hahaha. Well in my mind I was being sweet and to the point so as not to bombard him, because normally I would have chatted on about my morning and how much coffee I had had and was bouncing off the walls, that I missed him, etc. So this time I was like I'll emulate his simple communication and it totally backfired.

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Ouchie! Analyze the scenario and look at what you did... You suddenly became inconsistent LOL! Since you've started this "lets talk all day, every day, initiated by me!" thing, that's what he's going to expect. You pulled back (stopped the flow of energy to his ego) and he became defensive (because he's grown accustomed and dependent of your ego stroking to = you caring for him). Don't do this too much or you'll have a lazy Cappie who things he can do no wrong in your eyes. These folks are simple and uncomplicated creatures. The best way to deal with them is by being yourself but also adjusting that Self to vibrate at the same frequency he is.

This is what I mean when I said "emulate his behavior". We Gems can be vindictive ("OH! You're gonna shut me out? Kay, two can play at that game and I'mma play it harder than you for even putting me though this shit!"); I have a feeling you were coming from this place. Not a good thing. Game playing is for children and your Cap is looking for a Woman. My Cap dude called me a girl once and I shot him a deadly look, smirked, and said "Oh, but I'm a woman." I got that adorable, cheeky grin of his. I got RESPECT in that very instant it took for me to say those 5 words.

My advice would be to take a page out of his book. Text but keep it light and simple. If you've thought of something but you'll be seeing him soon (within the next 3 days) save it for then so y'all will have shit to talk about. If y
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like i'm gonna get you back huh huh? you are gonna get it!! that's very scorpionic and secretive and gets you back to make you pay since you got hurt. So if you are hurt, you're gonna lash out emotionally. i'm very very aware of scorpionic energy even the dark shadow side.

some scorpionic energy usually doens't do that though, it might be because they are more evolved, as they hurt themselves than hurting others. so they sting themselves than the others. It could be because of your gemini,which wants to EXPRESS the pain, since it's air and air wants to express it so couple that with Scorpio and it goes cray, dark side.

just my guess.
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
gosh truecap, just reading that is horrible. i can't stand the inconsistensies with beliefs, actions ect.

you have alot of PATIENCE and endurance to stand that. I can't even be around someone like that in friendship/platonic. I'd get a headache and go cray.

someone should give you a MEDAL. the endurance and patience of a double cap. with Scorpio venus /rising, no less.

I feel honestly after learning alot of astrology in the past several years that a gemini/cap can work if the cap has gemini in personal planets, or is gem dominant. or the gemini has dominant cap energy in personal planets. I see that consistently, that dominant gemini with dominant gemini no matter the sun sign.

or they are sag dominant (their opposite) the way Elvis Presley (sag rising) with libra venus and a 3rd house moon married a Gemini sun/Scorpio moon Priscilla Presley.

Also in real life, my cancer gf has a Gemini mother and a Cap father. Indeed you can see the big difference where he is DEFINITELY the patriarchial father figure, dominant figure in the family, but her Gemini mother is a good woman and she follows him, as you can clearly see that she does what he says. Plus, she's also very serious. (i'm pretty sure she has very serious placements too)


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I'm not very good with the planet placements and knowing if its compatible, but just curious if I would be a "dominant" Gemini...I'm pretty sure I probably am, but do my planets also say that?

Sun- me Gemini him Capricorn
Moon- me Virgo him Aquarius
Mars- me Gemini him Pisces
Mercury- me Taurus him Sag
Venus- me Aries him Aquarius
Jupiter- me Aquarius him Capricorn
Neptune- me Capricorn him Capricorn
Uranus- me Sag him Sag
Saturn- me Scorpio him Scorpio
Pluto- me Scorpio him Scorpio
Ascendant- me Libra him Aries
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
gosh truecap, just reading that is horrible. i can't stand the inconsistensies with beliefs, actions ect.

you have alot of PATIENCE and endurance to stand that. I can't even be around someone like that in friendship/platonic. I'd get a headache and go cray.

someone should give you a MEDAL. the endurance and patience of a double cap. with Scorpio venus /rising, no less.

I feel honestly after learning alot of astrology in the past several years that a gemini/cap can work if the cap has gemini in personal planets, or is gem dominant. or the gemini has dominant cap energy in personal planets. I see that consistently, that dominant gemini with dominant gemini no matter the sun sign.

or they are sag dominant (their opposite) the way Elvis Presley (sag rising) with libra venus and a 3rd house moon married a Gemini sun/Scorpio moon Priscilla Presley.

Also in real life, my cancer gf has a Gemini mother and a Cap father. Indeed you can see the big difference where he is DEFINITELY the patriarchial father figure, dominant figure in the family, but her Gemini mother is a good woman and she follows him, as you can clearly see that she does what he says. Plus, she's also very serious. (i'm pretty sure she has very serious placements too)


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Truthfully, though, I really didn't want to be a divorce statistic, but that relationship was not good. There are times when divorce is the best solution for everyone involved.

The relationship with the Aqua is easy compared to that one with the gem...and you know the reputation aqua men have. lol!

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it would also be houses so, try going to some sites that offer finding your dominants.

https://anupturnedsoul.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/what-planet-dominates-you/

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrological_elements_fire_air_earth_water.php

i dont know if cafeastrology offers that though, but you can google cafeastrology too. You can get busy with this and enjoy!!
No idea exactly how this reads but for me it says Venus is dominant...and dominant planet is Scorpio. For him it says Saturn is dominant and dominant planet is Capricorn.
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Awww....shucks...thanks Pandola.

I used to be married to a gemini. I gave him the stability he needed, but he was so inconsistent with his beliefs, his actions, his words, his spending, etc. His opinion on something we decided together changed from day to day to day - he literally drove me to antidepressants. However, he did give me laughter and fun and a lighter side of life that I craved, but I just didn't give him the constant attention he craved. Sure, there are things we miss about each other, but the negatives outweighed the positives. Needless to say, we had more problems than not. Our marriage lasted 18 years, though I think we're both much happier now that we're no longer together.
gosh truecap, just reading that is horrible. i can't stand the inconsistensies with beliefs, actions ect.

you have alot of PATIENCE and endurance to stand that. I can't even be around someone like that in friendship/platonic. I'd get a headache and go cray.

someone should give you a MEDAL. the endurance and patience of a double cap. with Scorpio venus /rising, no less.

I feel honestly after learning alot of astrology in the past several years that a gemini/cap can work if the cap has gemini in personal planets, or is gem dominant. or the gemini has dominant cap energy in personal planets. I see that consistently, that dominant gemini with dominant gemini no matter the sun sign.

or they are sag dominant (their opposite) the way Elvis Presley (sag rising) with libra venus and a 3rd house moon married a Gemini sun/Scorpio moon Priscilla Presley.

Also in real life, my cancer gf has a Gemini mother and a Cap father. Indeed you can see the big difference where he is DEFINITELY the patriarchial father figure, dominant figure in the family, but her Gemini mother is a good woman and she follows him, as you can clearly see that she does what he says. Plus, she's also very serious. (i'm pretty sure she has very serious placements too)

Truthfully, though, I really didn't want to be a divorce statistic, but that relationship was not good. There are times when divorce is the best solution for everyone involved.

The relationship with the Aqua is easy compared to that one with the gem...and you know the reputation aqua men have. lol!

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lol oh yes, esp with pisces and vigo in their chart. 😆

well at least he's also got some cap in him.
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hm that sounds more like Scorpio placements, the vindictive side, (but the shadow side of Scorpio energy and you have Scorpio moon) so your vindictive side is more scorpionic of the dark side.
I have Virgo moon not Scorp.
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i was quoting Pandora's, and saw she had Scorpio moon, and quoting her vindictive side.
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