Green Goats?

Are male Capricorns typically jealous and/or possessive in relationships, or toward the female object of their desire? Through personal experience, I have seen what I *think* was jealousy, but since Capricorns are almost as good as us Scorpios at hiding their feelings, I can't be sure. Any input at all is appreciated; thanks for your help! : )

Hi Phoenix! Aries here...🙂

Your situation with your cappy "friend" sure does sound a lot like mine. I do believe that they do get very jealous as I have seen this before. It is from their insecurity of themselves. My friend doesn't believe in himself which I cannot understand but, so be it.
They do keep their feelings inside because they are afraid of being hurt/rejected. You said in one of your other posts that you will not change for his comfort. Good for YOU! That type of thing never does anyone any good anyway. Us girls just have to be who we are and hopefully, with these cap men, they will learn to "follow their heart" instead of using their mind...doing what they "think" is "right" all the time. I feel that they are missing out on a lot of life's experiences by withdrawing and not taking risks. Ya know, there really is no such thing as FEAR....it only exists in our minds (false evidence appearing real).

Phoenix, I feel ya on this cappy relationship thing...Look how smart they make us?

Best wishes to you too!

Hey there, dear Aries friend! : )

Phoenix here. Thank you so much for sharing your situation with me; at least now I know I'm not alone in this weird & frustrating, what-the-hell-are-Capricorns-all-about thing! I *love* what you said there about FEAR--very creative and very true! And I couldn't agree more that they are missing out on what could be some really cool experiences due to the whole melancholic/never reveal emotion to others thing. Don't get me wrong; I'm not bitter or anything toward the Goats, in fact I think that they can be the coolest--when they want to be or allow themselves to be. But I agree with you, we need to not fall into the trap of being who they would obviously rather us be, just for the sake of not rocking the boat or freaking them out with our passion! Sometimes I feel more like a Fire sign than the Water sign I supposedly am--which is a compliment!

Well anyway, have no fear dear Aries: we'll get through this craziness together!! : )

phoenix_rising

Hey, phoenix here again...forgot to mention something to you, Aries friend, that is slightly off-topic but interesting to note, nonetheless: I always find that I get along really well with Aries females (not as well with Aries males)--I've had lots of good girl friends born under Aries. Have you had this same experience with lady Scorpios? Just curious! : )

phoenix_rising

Hi Phoenix!

You are so cool! I am so glad that we met on these boards. Nice to know that there is someone out there who can understand what I am going through with my cappy friend. 🙂 Thank you!

I have some very good friends, male and female who are scorpios...I find that we stimulate each other using our minds. Scorps are very giving, generous and loving people. They are risks takers and this is why the aries and scopios get along,..actually, I seem to get along with everyone. Even the cappy man. I just let him go and do his thing...if I hear from him, great. If not, oh well...his loss, his problem. I have two cappy male friends and it is funny how they are so much alike. Maybe "friends" is just enough for me with them.

I hope you are doing well and I am glad that we have had the opportunity to connect on these boards. Have a great day, Phoenix Oh by the way...Phoenix is where my dad lives. Sedona is one of my very favorite places on planet earth!

Hi again, my Aries pal! : )

Thank you so much for your compliments about Scorpios, that was very nice to hear! And I know you are being honest, as I've never experienced anything less than honesty from the Arians. And I can see what you mean about you getting along with everyone; you seem like an easy person to like!

About your philosophy on the Cappy men ("I just let him go and do his thing...if I hear from him, great. If not, oh well...his loss, his problem. Maybe "friends" is just enough for me with them")--I think that is the most encouraging thing I've heard for weeks now. You know, I'm getting to that point I think, also, where it's like, "Is this confusion worth it?". And you're right; if the Capricorn can't acknowledge what we have to offer *them*, rather than just US being in awe of what *they* have to offer us that's deep under the surface, then it's perhaps better to indeed just be friends.

Now, I am a Scorpion, so it's really hard for me to let go in this way, but if I can't "crack" him soon, I may not have a choice. He wants a no-strings-attatched affair; I want to hold a nobler place in his life (and if I'm to be bluntly honest, I think I deserve it!). So, we'll see--I think you are more evolved with your Capricorn(s) than I am with mine, or maybe you're better able than I am to detach emotionally for your own good. Boy, I hope I get there soon!

Thanks again for all your help & support; you are awesome! : )

phoenix_rising

P.S.: That rocks about your Dad! But now I have to be a total idiot and ask you, where is Sedona? I suck, I know!! : )

Have a great day!

phoenix_rising

Dear Phoenix_rising...

I love reading your posts...🙂 Sedona is hmmmm where in Arizona? Not sure exactly but about 2 hrs. from Phoenix. I just get in a car (usually someone else is driving and I stare at the beautiful scenery) Half the time in my life I don't know where I am going, I just somehow get there!

Humans are very interesting to me. While on this planet, I spent part of my life struggling, always wanting, needing, never feeling that I was good enough. Through the many experiences that were given to me (not by my choice at all!) I learned. I learned to let go of results...I learned that whatever came my way was meant to and that I was learning something from it. I learned that I would give my best in any situation and then let go and see what happens never expecting anything. I must say, what a relief it is to surrender to life. Life has become effortless. There are so many wonderful miracles everyday. I learned that I cannot CONTROL any situation or anyone. Everything is what it is.

People are brought into our life to teach us something about life and about ourselves. All of these are gifts to us. I stop and I think about how grateful I am to just be alive and to breathe the air and to drink the water and to "feel" life. The other alternative is to have transfered from this planet to parts unknown which will happen sometime. So, enjoy now and all the people that we meet and wake up to more surprises each day. 🙂

Hey scopio, you were a surprise to me! See? isn't life grand?

Hey Aries friend,

You are so wise, seriously--you say the neatest & most inspirational things. I think it rocks that you "don't know where you're going, but somehow just get there". I don't know if you were being metaphorical there, but I am going to respond as if you were, okay? LOL : )Anyway, that is one of those qualities I don't have. I spend too much time wondering/stressing over HOW I'm going to get "there"--and I don't even know where "there" is just yet--and not enough time enjoying the uncertainty and spontaneity of the JOURNEY. And just so you know, your post which I totally loved, has come at the best time, which I truly mean in all seriousness. My cousin who was my age thereabouts (I'm 20; she was 21) has committed suicide, and today has been very surreal, and extremely depressing, and just about every other emotion it's possible for a human being to have. So not knowing what else to do but the "normal" things I would have done before, I get on here hoping that nobody's said anything mean in response to one of my posts, and I find your words (unknowingly to you) which speak to me in the right way at the right time. You know, if you go around in your everyday life bringing such positivity (without idealism) in such a pure way and with such eloquence, as I'm sure you do, then I'll bet you that you've made a deeply positive and uplifting impression on more people than you think.

You, my friend, are going to be rewarded for using your time here on this Earth--I don't know how and I don't know by whom or what, but I promise you that somebody's watching and will return this goodness back to you three-fold.

I would say more but I am quite sleepy, exhausted, and drained emotionally, so I will be back here later. Her service is going to be in a couple of days and her immediate family as well as mine are going to be here (meaning where I live in Oregon) for the next few days (some of them permanently such as her mother, brother and sister), and so if on the off chance that I don't post for a few days, that's why...just a lot of stress and stuff in the personal arena. But I will be back!! : )

phoenix_rising

Dear Phoenix,

I am so very sorry about what happened with your cousin. I bet you are going through every emotion possible. I am here for you, (not physically so you can see me) but thoughtwise and heartwise. Life gave you another journey to experience, what that you had no control over, one that I am sure you did not desire to experience at this time nor anytime. However, this is a part of life as well and your strength and love will help others going through their pain. Feel all of it. I cannot imagine why someone would choose to commit suicide but then again, I cannot understand why someone would choose to rob a bank. She must have really been struggling and that I can understand. I am so sorry. This is going to change a lot of peoples lives and they too will feel so much.

My thoughts and prayers are with you, your friends and your family.

Thank you again, for the wonderful compliments that you have shared with me. Your words mean so much, thank you.
Ditto back at cha!

With love,
Aries friend.....

Dear Heather,

I am so sorry to hear about your cousin. I posted about your Rising sign on the Scorpio board earlier...

I don't come to the Cappy page often...although I am Cap Rising...

My heart goes out to you and to your family and all who are affected by this...

Star

Aries friend--

Your post was very sweet; thank you so much for being there for me! : ) Even if not physically. And I appreciate the condolences; this is definitely a very hard time. I won't be dwelling on talking about what's happened, but I will say that I agree with you about death & tradgedy being an unavoidable part of life. It is in our lives for many, many different reasons I think. One of them being that (I don't remember where I heard this) if we never experience grief and pain, how would we ever know the joy of happiness? How would we measure it? You can only take the good with the bad, because to distinguish between the two we need to know the depths and heights of each.

Of course, that doesn't answer all those questions that we all have about why she did it, and how a person could do this to their family. I'm sure everyone who's ever experienced something similar asks those questions. The whole thing is still so surreal, I can't get the image (I wasn't there but you know how the mind works) out of my head; unfortunately her stepfather and her mom and my other cousin (her sister) were all at home when it happened, they all heard the gunshot and fo some reason in a haze, the stepfather actually went into the room which was a mistake.

They are all going to need some help. I was not especially close to my cousin Danyelle, I only saw her around once a year. But I liked her. I could tell that she was a very sensitive person beneath all the punk clothes and hair! lol. You would think that becuase I wasn't "close" to her, I wouldn't be as affected by what she did, as I am. And you know, it's not like a "normal" death, it was unnatural, and she was so young. Which makes the whole grieving process a lot different I think, from a "normal" death. Harder to accept and impossible to understand, even though I want to. She had previously been on serious drugs like Meth and Ecstacy because apparently she was into that whole "clubbing" life style . I guess that is a cool thing in the bigger cities in Florida, which is where she lived. The thing we don't know yet is whether she was on drugs at the time of the suicide. According to her sister (my other cousin) Briawna, Danyelle had been "angry" about something for two days prior to her death. Nobody knows what she was angry about. I am doing alright, considering. It comes in waves...I will be absolutely fine and go about my business most of the day, and then the strangest things will set off the emotions. I have pictures of her when she was a baby with her mother, that kind of thing. Today I had to pick out a few poems to put together for her Mom and family to have and to be read at the funeral. We all aren't really talking about it--although I talk to my mom a lot about it. I wasn't able to go over to my grandma's house today (they all flew over from Florida so they can bury her here) because I knew with her mom arriving and sister and stepfather, that it would probably be more than I could handle; I didn't want to make it worse for them with my emotions unexpectedly coming to the surface. My mom spent all day over there with them however. She said it was best that I not go, that it was pretty bad. So that helped me at least know it was okay for me not to go. I am going tomorrow though.

Wow this post is getting long and depressing, I'd better go. Thank you again, for being so comforting : ) It really does help; these boards are the one thing I have right now that takes my mind off of things to the extent that I want them to.

Goodnight for now : )
Love,
Heather (aka phoenix)

Star, thank you so much, that is very kind of you to say that. I have to go now and try to sleep, but I will be checking for your post over there probably tomorrow night. I actually need to do this right now, this whole astrology boards thing, it actually provides a nice distraction.

until next time,
phoenix

Hi Phoenix_rising! I just thought of something, what about that "rising" in your name? You are "rising" in life through your experiences.

Death, a whole new subject that is not spoken much about. I do feel that this brings on many fears. Once we understand death, we then really begin to live. Death is a part of living. No one knows how long/short we will be graced upon this earth. It is so important for each one of us to see life as the gift it truly is. Life has so much to offer us, it teaches us, it helps us grow, it allows us to feel and most of all to experience all of who we are. Without life, we would not be here. I'm not sure that it is all that important how we leave the planet but that we will be leaving in some way maybe unknown to us, some leave in a planned way. Life gives us the ability to make choices that we feel are right for us. We usually do not think of others when we are creating our life choices as they fit only to us. You may never know why your cousin decided to do what she did. What you have now are the memories of life that you created with her, this is what remains in our hearts, the creation of our life while on earth. The gift here is that you were blessed by her life and she by yours, you connected with her. This is how we all are, we may meet someone for a brief moment, make that connection in the split second of time and then,...it is gone forever, like water through our fingers. We need to enjoy all our moments with whom ever we are with as we are not guarenteed another moment with them. Even with what you are going through with all of your family members, enjoy the feelings you are sharing, you are connecting....her death brought many people together to experience another facet of living. In her dying she is teaching those left to live. Peace be with you.

Your Aries Friend 🙂

I too have a Cappie friend who wants a no-strings affair. I too think I deserve better. I was insulted because although I know we are both ultimately looking for true love, I had him pegged as a possibility when we first met while he had immediately written me off without really getting to know me. If you do have the affair make the most of it and know when to move on so you can find someone who can give you what you deserve.