Help, I'm Not Sure About This

Okay, long-story cut very short ...

A guy I met at school (Virgo -- I think he's Leo-Virgo Cusp)and became friends with decides to take a trip out west -- it was an internship program. He went for the expreience. He just left Monday actually ...

Well, I know this guy through another friend (he's a pisces)who is a very nice guy -- too nice at times really. Anyway, so he pays for the guys plane ticket so he can actually get out there to the internship site. However, I thought it was a bit strange when I was asking him about how he was going to pay for things, he would say, "Don't worry, I'll be fine." A close friend of mine did the same internship about two years ago and I decided to do it too but changed my mind -- so I know what it consist of.

So, about an hour ago, the Virgo calls my Pisces friend and says that he's stuck at the bus (—) station. The Virgo was kicked out of the program because he didn't pay any of the fees prior to getting accepted to the program.

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My Pisces friend came to me and told me that our Virgo friend is in trouble -- apparently he called him last night too -- and asked that I talk to him. The Virgo tells me that he wasn't aware of the financial end of the internship. I said that all the information comes with the packet you receive -- like I said, I know this because I applied for the same program and my friend actual took the internship.

I asked him to be honest and to tell whether or not he received the information in advance. After a while he admitted that he did receive it but he thought he could get by somehow and that he read all the information but not all of it.

So anyway, to needs help financially to get from at there and back to this city.

Basically, he asked for help but I just paid for bills and a few other things days ago and I know I don't have it. Like sorry, I spent my money because I didn't know something like this would come about.

My Pisces friend is thinking about helping him but he's not sure either but he looking at his credit cards and stuff to see what he can do but ....

Should we help him get be here or should we let his family take care of him —

Well, my Pisces friend just called the bus station to confirm that he is indeed there and stuck because he can't afford to get back here.

he has family. do not pay for him.

there are always consequences for our actions. he is just at a bus station, not in jail.

i mean why doesn't he have a credit card?

he is a grown up. not your responsibility.

See, here the thing ... that I just found about like an hour and 20 minutes ago. I was under the impression that he just turned 20 years old. In order to help him get back here, we need some of stuff we are not his family.

He's lied about his age the whole time I've known him -- which hasn't been that long but still -- he is 24 years old ... :O All this time we (well at least I thought was 19 when I first met him) and I thought he just turnen 20 this past August but no he just turned freaking 24 he'll be 25 which means he is a bit older than me ...

Thats not the point but he lied about his age the whole time -- usually people lie and say that they are older to work but younger—

I would have disagreed with you Leokittin if I didn't find out that bit of information.

He has also done unwise things before this but the Pisces friend bails him out alot. He's never really asked me to do anything but he has told me about what he has done and how the Pisces helps him out.

I don't know ... I don't want anything to happen to him but at the same time ... he kinda knows better in my opinion ... its just certain conversations we have had that has lead me to believe that he has his wits about him .... but some reason he just didn't use them this time and the other times.

wow talk about irresponsible behavior, well your friend is definitely taking a risk with helping, times are hard money is tight and the guy has shown irresponsibility for his actions, he went there knowing he hadn't crossed all his t's, lending him money without some kind of promissory note is not a good idea, unless he's willing to help without getting his money back from the guy I wouldn't do it. Has anyone suggested the guy contact his family to get him out of this mess.

how much money> and did pisces already pay for a plane ticket or did i read that wrong?

if you pay ...never expect to be repaid.

Oh no, the Pisces paid for the plane ticket so the Virgo can fly there -- he let this week Monday. He called yesterday from the bus station saying he needs more money to get back here. he only has alittle pocket money ... thats another thing, why would you go with only 65 dollars in your pocket? And the Pisces friend gave him that ....


Yes, I agree with you Leokitten, yes, whole heartly I do ... but I am a bit concerned because the dude is just ...

I don't know ...

Has anyone suggested the guy contact his family to get him out of this mess.

Okay, well he says he can't get through ... to his mom that is. He says he keeps calling but he can't get through ....

This is a messy situation at the moment. And the Pisces came here asking me for advice. Why didn't he call me last night? I'm like working right now and I'm just a bit nervous because I know he wants me to at least tell the Virgo that I will do something for him but I ... just don't know what I can do yet ...

well he's already shown he's a liar, any help given should be given with the after thought that it won't get paid back, I'm sure he's too embarrassed to speak with his family about it....

Thank you Leokitten and Tiki,

I'm trying to figure out what to do ... I just spoke to my Pisces friend and well ...

This is crazy lol, I'm at work damn it lol

I think you should go and help him. Feed his bad habits. That's what friends are for.

hahaha, that was sarcasm ...

"its just certain conversations we have had that has lead me to believe that he has his wits about him .... but some reason he just didn't use them this time and the other times"


That's ^^^^^ highly doubtful. A Virgo is a perfectionist, ALL of his I's will be dotted, and T's crossed before he makes any decision in his life. Look at all the talk we do on the Virgo board, Cappy, you know full well that a Virgo is the most cautious beast on this planet.

This is sketchy .... seriously .. a Virgo just would NOT do what he did.



In any event, the damage is done, and cannot be reversed ... you are at a crossroad now, and I would tell you to help your friend. If not for your new Virgo friend, then at least do it for your dear Pisces friend, who is likely worried as hell about him.

For whatever reason he finds himself in dire straights, is irrelevant when someone is in trouble, much like a hungry or homeless person .... the right thing is to aid.


However, I'd fucking kill his ass when he gets home ... string him up by the balls and make damn sure he knows that he fucked up, and this behaviour will not be tolerated in the future.

Hi P-Angel,

His birth is Aug. 24th ... that makes him a Virgo by astro means lol -- well on the Leo cusp anyway ...


Actually, you know I have a cousin born on the same day ... and he's a bit irresponsible too now that I think about it. HAHAHA! I totally forgot about that cousin of mine because he and I do not talk often and we don't get along that well.

That's ^^^^^ highly doubtful. A Virgo is a perfectionist, ALL of his I's will be dotted, and T's crossed before he makes any decision in his life. Look at all the talk we do on the Virgo board, Cappy, you know full well that a Virgo is the most cautious beast on this planet.

Yes I do know ... thats part of my problem with him too ... maybe I shouldn't really think from an astro point of view but just based on some things he has done before this, I'm like "dude"?

My Pisces friend is older than both the Virgo and I but he's the sweetest guy and he and I are very cool with each other. That virgo trusts me with alot and he tells me quite a bit, which is strange because I would think he's tell the Pisces more stuff. haha, than I have the Pisces telling me stuff about him -- so it didn't take too long for me to put things together.

For whatever reason he finds himself in dire straights, is irrelevant when someone is in trouble, much like a hungry or homeless person .... the right thing is to aid.

Damn it all to hell, you sound like my Pisces friend right now lol ...

... oh dear .... why————————?

Who cares its just money. And it could have been you, it could have been anyone. If you have the money to give than give. Notice how the Pisces friend had no problem helping out.

Who cares its just money. And it could have been you, it could have been anyone. If you have the money to give than give. Notice how the Pisces friend had no problem helping out.

No Klover, he's still just talking about it but he ran into a problem ...

I have a problem too ....


I'm going to just pretend that I hear nothing for the next few hours so I can figure out something here ... yes, that I will. Nope, I want to hear nothing for either one of them right now. I will turn my cell phone off, I can think with all of this at the moment ...

No, but giving when you can has no stipulation. If he is an irresponsible liar than thats his problem. Your problem is to be the best person you can be. So if you become aware of a situation and you CAN help, then rise above being selfish and help. Its really very simple. It would be foolish to give someone your last dime, but if you have ten dimes to spare it doesnt matter who is the recipient. Its all about the deed because in the end, only kindness matters.

he is not dying. he is at a bus station. why> because he was irresponsible. he can start walking.

I felt he was fine at the bus station too ... until he told my Pisces friend that they kicked him out last night but he could go back inside in the morning.

I really see your point Leokitten. See, the thing is, I did other things with my money so I am a bit strapped at the moment. My Pisces friend has a $ 1000 limit on his credit card and almost to that point and ....

screw this, I'm turning off my cell ...

wow there are way too many doormats on dxp, women love liars I don't understand it LMAO!!! Love bleeding hearts, I don't get it...

oh gosh, cappysweetie do what you feel is right for you, your not going to get your money back PERIOD, so whatever you decide to do should be out of the kindness of your heart, if you give to him, make sure you will not miss the money and you will not resent giving to him but in all honesty this isn't his first time needing help, he sounds like he's a drama king user but again if your okay with helping even outside of what you know about him then do what feels right for you.

Its all about the deed because in the end, only kindness matters.


ugh ... I feel bad ... yeah, I preach this alot don't I ... kindness.

doormat....What is wrong with these women? LMAO

My stance is to help if you can. If not, dont sweat it. But getting wraped up in the fact that this person is an irresponsible liar has nothing to do with the basic principle of doing a good deed when possible.

he's not a charity case, he's a college educated grown man that chooses to be irresponsible, that tells sketchy lies, he clearly is smart but maybe too cunning for his own good because he KNOW that if he hits bottom he can whine and pout and beg his way into what he needs

He has a family, someone can contact his family for him via email or phone and get the dude some assistance, his family most likely isn't helping because he's wasted there money so much that he has no option but to beg a friend that clearly has a soft spot for him...

I'm sure he hasn't contacted his family as of yet, he wants to see if you guys will help him out first, he would much rather get your help than have to call his family and hear this long speech about the money that has been already spent and the money he already owes everyone d:

All good deeds are rewarded no doubt....

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"First, if she didn't have anything to help him with, she wouldn't have posted this board. Second, a doormat is someone who knows is wasting oneself on something one shouldn't. I dont see anything wrong with this."

Cappysweetie is very intelligent, she will figure things out for herself, she has stated she doesn't have the money, go back and read her post and yeah rocking sorry but you have those doormat qualities along with a few others here, you have done things and clearly didn't get anything return that is why I said doormat but this isn't about you....

Cappy has all the info she needs about the guy to make a sound decision

this guy seems like bad news, I wouldn't help him if I were you cappy.

if you do want to help follow sagigoats checklist.

I just don't think it's up to you Cappy, to judge whether he is responsible or not ... his life is his life, your job, if you are his friend, is to be one.

It's no different than when you came on here a while back, upset becausse your mother said you had to come back home because you were being irresponsible with yourself.

That ^^^^ offended you. And it should have, because it's not up to your parents to make this decision for you, or to judge whether you are being responsible enough IN THIER EYES as to what you do in your life. Just as .... it's not up to you to make a decision/judgement call whether this man is responsible enough IN YOUR EYES.


When a friend is need, or a mate, or a family member, or anyone to whom you would consider worthy of you .. if they are in need, then to care about a person means you don't judge them .. and help them.

That's what people are suppose to do for each other if care is present.


However, that was this morning .. so certainly, you have done whatever it is that you decided to do, and I hope your decision was to help this man .... beit, get up off of your own bucks, call his parents, find several other friends of his and pool money together .. whatever it took to help him.


Karma ..... one day, you are going to be in need, and who knows, it may be because you did something stupid. We all do stupid things sometimes, but, that doesn't mean we should be forsaken when in need.

^^^ lol ! yea Cappie, tell him what GB said...

you gotta do what leaves you in an ok position CS... if you help him out, will you be in need then? who do you go to? In this case, you have a lot more to consider because money loaned out to a friends/acquaintance, etc, is considered charity - don't expect it back as many people here have repeated...

But if you ask me and no one did, 😛 this does NOT sound anything like an internship programme I've heard of... don't they help you tie the lose ends? they know you live out of town, send ticket, starting packs, give accomodation, etc? plus he's virgo/leo?! sounds very very strange... what's his reason for not calling the family?

He must be using the Pisces genorisity and lying.

Sounds like a Freeloader to me.

*UPDATE*

Okay, so last time I was on, I didn't know what to do concerning whether or not to help this Leo-Virgo guy get back to here from out west. Basically, Dogsbody is right, the guy is a freeloader and he works on the feelings of others to get what he needs. haha, he doesn't know how to earn a living really which is sad because he will be 25 soon ... although he has others under the impression that he's 19.

So, in other words, the Picses friend helped him out and I chose not to help. This may sound mean but at the time I didn't have the money anyway. Plus, I didn't really want to do it ... in all honesty. I felt as if he was being irresponsible to left this state without doing what was necessary concerning the program he was in.

LOL, the guy had the nerve to want the Pisces to pay for a plane ticket. I spoke to the Pisces and told him that he would be an idiot to do such a thing. Put his ass on a bus! Which he did 😉 The pisces paid for the 1st plane ticket :O So thats the only time I became demanding -- he would have been a fool to have bought another plane ticket. WTF! So he came back here on a bus 🙂

Since his return, I don't know if the Leo-Virgo is working on paying him back or what but I will say that I'm glad this thats all over lol.

I don't like to see people get used and thats basically what that Leo-Virgo is about. He hasn't spoken to me much since his return ... because he knows I see right through his bull-shit. My goodness, if that man was a woman, he would fit the bill of a gold-digger LOL

I just don't think it's up to you Cappy, to judge whether he is responsible or not ... his life is his life, your job, if you are his friend, is to be one.

It's no different than when you came on here a while back, upset becausse your mother said you had to come back home because you were being irresponsible with yourself.

That ^^^^ offended you. And it should have, because it's not up to your parents to make this decision for you, or to judge whether you are being responsible enough IN THIER EYES as to what you do in your life. Just as .... it's not up to you to make a decision/judgement call whether this man is responsible enough IN YOUR EYES.

hahaha, oh no, I agree with you P-Angel BUT (theres always a BUT you see 😉) whether or not the word 'irresponsible' offends me or anyone else, its an opinion of someone. Regardless to whether or not, I like being called that or not doesn't matter because its that person's opinion of you at the time unfortunately. You don't always have to have that 'irresponsible' label on you, but if the shoe fits at that moment, than it is what it is and that even goes for me ^_^.

My opinion of this guy is much worse now than it was when I first created this thread actually. LOL, really it is, more things came to the surface about him and I'm like "Are you kidding me —?" Yeah, I'm glad that I was broke that week lol, no pressure 😉

this guy seems like bad news, I wouldn't help him if I were you cappy.

if you do want to help follow sagigoats checklist.


Don't worry Luna, I didn't ^_^. I recently found out how much money he owes that Pisces. My goodness, that soooooo could not be me. That guy would have so many bumps on his head from pouncing on him LOL. Its not the issue of money, its all about respect -- you know what I mean? You don't respect those you take advantage of and that would piss me off.

But if you ask me and no one did, this does NOT sound anything like an internship programme I've heard of... don't they help you tie the lose ends? they know you live out of town, send ticket, starting packs, give accomodation, etc? plus he's virgo/leo?! sounds very very strange... what's his reason for not calling the family?

LOL @ Zena 😄 Exactly my point 😉 😉 😉 You know, when I spoke to him, he said he couldn't contact his mother nor could he contact his grandmother -- which was strange to say the least --- maybe they didn't know he was going out of town —?? *shrugs*


Actually, where he screwed up was the fact that: he thoought he could tie those lose ends when he got there. Also, he thought he could get more money out of the Pisces. You by saying, "Oh, I didn't know I needed $ 700.00 for room and board" What the hell, yes he did. I know he did because we BOTH looked at the information online. It was right there in his face. But he said that he would be "okay, don't worry about me". Yeah right, he knew actually what he was doing. The Pisces gave him some extra money to last for about a week down there but it wasn't enough. He tried to get more money but he didn't succeed. So he knew on his way over there that he was in trouble.

Hi Cybernikes!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😄!!!!!

They are made for each other. That Virgo and Pisces.

Xun!!! Buddy 😄!!! How are you ^_^.


LOL @ your comment.

The pisces is just a nice guy, I know how nice he is so I don't like it when people take advantage of him. However, he is an adult and I can only say so much. But I wasn't about to left him buy another plane ticket for the boy, nope that son-of-a-gun went by bus.

see if it was a pisces or aries that pulled that crap, I would say, yea heads in the cloud, didn't read fine prints and stuff... but a leo-virgo? phsss, it was premeditated!!! those 2 signs combined know details details details ...
he probably went to lay a chick he met online 😛 under the disguise of internship... hehehe - my sick mind activated again!

This may sound mean but at the time I didn't have the money anyway.
phss it sounds sensible to me... someone will always be the giver if you don't try to balance

he probably went to lay a chick he met online under the disguise of internship... hehehe - my sick mind activated again!

YOU HAVE A POINT! If thats the case ... OMG, what an ass!!!!!!!!!