? WHY DO WE CAPRICORNS DISTROY OUR RELATIONSHIPS

We do this on an on going basis. I am sitting here now thinking about all the relationships I could have kept together with just a little effort on my part. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I had to go and fuck them up what are we afrid of?

I agree with loss of control. It seems like things get so tricky when deep feelings are involved, and almost difficult. Its as if it's not an enjoyable experience for many of us. Maybe it's easier to sabotage then consume yourself with what you can't control, or what it seems someone else has control of. When we focus on whatever, then we focus and are consumed by it. The blurriness of all things emotional makes the territory not all that appealing to explore imo.

Posted by james tate
We do this on an on going basis. I am sitting here now thinking about all the relationships I could have kept together with just a little effort on my part. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I had to go and fuck them up what are we afrid of?

Wish I knew what you were afraid of! The worst part for you I'd think is knowing that those of us who loved you once, and may always love you on some level, need to move on out of self-preservation. Even if we understand your fear and uncertainty...no one can stand still forever. And sometimes that's what it feels like with a cap.

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Posted by james tate
We do this on an on going basis. I am sitting here now thinking about all the relationships I could have kept together with just a little effort on my part. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I had to go and fuck them up what are we afrid of?

Wish I knew what you were afraid of! The worst part for you I'd think is knowing that those of us who loved you once, and may always love you on some level, need to move on out of self-preservation. Even if we understand your fear and uncertainty...no one can stand still forever. And sometimes that's what it feels like with a cap.

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I think this is true too. The thought of someone moving on, and...i hate to say this but, looking out for and doing whats best for themselves in the end, kind of put a halt on things. Guess its a trust thing.

Posted by ginger1
i dont think we are afraid we take awhile longer to open up more than others.We have to be certain that the other persons feels is genuine and not just mere infatuation

I agree

One of the first things to turn me off is it seams that after a bit of time they become to clinging to much dependent on me.
Perhaps its the type of women I am attracted to in the begianing then turn off.
Per haps for them its best the way it has turned out.
It also seems the only one I want is the one I can't have.
I do think this is a cap thing.

Posted by james tate
We do this on an on going basis. I am sitting here now thinking about all the relationships I could have kept together with just a little effort on my part. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I had to go and fuck them up what are we afrid of?

this is a good topic. i've destroyed mine in the past if i've been hurt and want to create a situation where i wouldnt go back to said person under any circumstance. burning bridges, if you will.

The relation ship you speak of elle,
Is an on Again off again relationship for sure.
It may play a big part of what is going on with other relationships I have had.
Her faimly is the big block there.
Her brother is the only one left alive but his influnce is big and pervents her from doing what she wants to do.
Also money if he wants he could leave her broke.
Her son is growing up under the brothers influnce also so he may end up being a factor some day.
It is what it is.

Posted by ellessque
he wants to knock her off the seat next to him and not so kindly ask her to leave.

this is not necessarily an exclusive cap thing.

this is specifically a......

cap sun
water moon
venus aqua

"thing"

Scorpio moon here.. and I Absolutely APPROVE this message!
I run for the HILLS when someone is WAAY too clingy, creeps me OUT and leads me to see a man as WEAK, and it has lead me to emasculate. A man CAN show his feelings and emotion, but in INCREMENTS, not FLOODING me to drown me. yuck. give me SPACE!!

Posted by ellessque
I've tagged this the "ricki syndrome" and there are a few of you here that know why. One day I shall write a book.

"I could have kept together with just a little effort on my part."

"It also seems the only one I want is the one I can't have."
Oh, yes you can and you know it.It just takes that little effort on your part.

If I could get a dollar for everytime I hear this..lol...Unless that person is MARRIED, there is no such thing as someone you can't have who probably already has feelings for you. Its just a question of IF you want them BAD enough.
...BTW, Who is "Ricki"??

Let go and face those feelings that pop up every once in awhile that tells you she's not worth it, because she is.
Communicate when she gets on your last nerve and you don't even want to look at her face because she bugs you so much, let her know you need space instead of pushing her away.

I agree. Good ol VERBALLY SPOKEN communication is all it really takes especially during those Very Critical "CAP moments". It sure helps things across the board and in the long run. Don't lose a good thing by foolishly pushing it away.

Posted by james tate
The relation ship you speak of elle,
Is an on Again off again relationship for sure.
It may play a big part of what is going on with other relationships I have had.
Her faimly is the big block there.
Her brother is the only one left alive but his influnce is big and pervents her from doing what she wants to do.
Also money if he wants he could leave her broke.
Her son is growing up under the brothers influnce also so he may end up being a factor some day.
It is what it is.

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Just wondering...has she NO mind or money of her own?? *shrugs*

Song for my fellow caps 🙂

Posted by pink786new
When I met my cap about a year ago he did something to ensure I was really hurt and wanted me to hate him, it was clear he wanted to destroy our relationship and never have any contact from me in his life again, he expected me to swear and insult him when he did this but to his amazement I did nothing but cry at which point he emotionally shut down and we ignored each other.

Fast forward 6 months and he contacted me, I asked him why he did what he did before and he admitted he wanted to burn the bridges and 'wanted me to hate him so much that I never talk to him again', but he was so shocked by my reaction and forgiveness that we worked things out, his aim to destroy us actually brought us together and to this day, even though I dont bring it up...he still apologises and says he never wants to hurt me.

Looking back at why he attempted to destroy it, I think he didn't believe how much i felt for him, he did not trust me and I think eventually I think he thought I would leave him. But I'm still here and the other day he said ''after everything I put you through you still never have had a bad word to say to me, I'm yours forever''.

Congrats, you've passed the Capricorn test 🙂 Its a cap thing. Not many would have the patience nor the sincerity to hold on but you did. I'm sure the capricorn meant what he said to you in the last sentence with all his heart but be wary thou, never take him for granted, us caps are kinda skeptical sometimes and a few test here and there might show up 😄

Ah ha. Don't worry, he'll never ever try to hurt you that badly again 🙂

The beauty of the cap skepticism is that he also applies it on himself too. We call this self reflection.

Sometime we do realize that we can be a little mean, we'll definitely try to make it up to you. Perhaps this is why a lot of women claims the ride with a Capricorn is an emotional roller coaster.

He won't really say sorry in your face, he prefers to do it with action, it can just be as simple as exploding at you one moment, then talking to you after in a calm voice. It is because he has reflected upon his own actions 😄

if you never experience infatuation, if you never expereince lust, how would you know how different LOVE feels?

Wow... I loved that. My recently disappeared Cap asked me if I've ever been in love and it was only the first time we've actually hung out and I thought wow he's really diving into this subject this early on. ...I said no, the ones from highschool can't possibly count and he said, sure it does and he told me about two different past gfs and how he felt with them. The earlier one from highshool he talked about how he would run to her and his feet would like it wasn't even touching the ground (young cap)..then in his next story, it was the kind of codependent relationship where they sucked the life out of you...then the other one was him rescuing a woman older than him going through divorce and how she let him go and he still had to work with her and how much it hurt to see her at work and she would just have her nose up like and not even look at him, sounded like that one stung a bit....

I remember thinking wow this guy is evaluating...he is searching for something....calculating...weighing in all the facts he knows thus far..

Posted by ginger1
i dont think we are afraid we take awhile longer to open up more than others.We have to be certain that the other persons feels is genuine and not just mere infatuation

Infatuation is deception: where the heart is at the helm and logic is substandard. Fucking waste of emotions... and effort. Money, too. A horrible feeling. And a horrible position it places you. It is the set of tunnels beneath your walls and the contagious disease within them. It is mutiny... and it is chaos.

Yet here I am - patient and oblivious - still waiting to feel what real love feels like. And with someone who deserves it. Without the contrived and baseless bullshit. Something pure... mutual... ensured.

"I don't think it's a human being thing at all. In previous times, humans were happy to eat and have a roof over their heads. Modern society has made us forget what's truly important and worthy in our lives. We live in a materialisic world where the grass is always greener...and we want more and more rather than cherishing what we have." -WoundedLeo, I'm loving your posts here- thought I would let you know that I share your sentiments with regard to modern society. I think modern society has made the majority of us superficial, vain, spoiled brats (to be blunt). We are so caught up in the search for something better, that we don't take the time to appreciate what we have. I think it's sad.

I do disagree with the thought that this "grass is greener" mentality is so largely attributed to cardinal signs. My chart is almost entirely cardinal (fire/earth, aries/cap) and I don't have this issue- but perhaps I am that aries/cap that has already been traumatically hurt in a way that makes me appreciate stable relationships...

I think "grass is greener" syndrome effects air signs and mutables heavily- moreso than it effects earth signs, in my experience.

Did I hear Qua-si-mo-do speak or was it just a dead ringer?
Taking the time to read what has ben an effert to help the old retarded washed up James Tate. Has led me to think people who try to get to me are putting out work that is like is like water off a ducks back. If it was ment to get to me
best you spend your time reading the post of people like woundedbird and the rat. Then you begian to understand even they could not get to me.
As for Elle I am still hurt that she came all the way to England to see M but did not let me know where she was. I think she thought I would try to bone her. She was right.
To all the rest thinks for the input.
One last thought I never worry about getting old I am one day closer to death everyday.

Im like that too WL. No matter what, I consider myself extremely blessed. There's always a story that will be worse than mine so its very hard to not always feel lucky, and thankful, and blessed.

On the flipside, I dont believe in the grass being greener anywhere. There's a lot that you dont see, that goes into what you see, and I hardly believe the work is worth it, however, none of this stops the desire to "move." I think there can be issues with sitting still and being content with just about anything. Doesnt mean theres no appreciation, just may mean your dealing with someone who has an insatiable hunger/appetite for all things. At the end of day, its easy to find contentment and peace, but its not the end of the day.

? WHY DO WE CAPRICORNS DISTROY OUR RELATIONSHIPS

Because you are selfish assholes, that's why.

Any other questions?

yes how have you been sister of woundedbird?

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Posted by lnana04
Im like that too WL. No matter what, I consider myself extremely blessed. There's always a story that will be worse than mine so its very hard to not always feel lucky, and thankful, and blessed.

On the flipside, I dont believe in the grass being greener anywhere. There's a lot that you dont see, that goes into what you see, and I hardly believe the work is worth it, however, none of this stops the desire to "move." I think there can be issues with sitting still and being content with just about anything. Doesnt mean theres no appreciation, just may mean your dealing with someone who has an insatiable hunger/appetite for all things. At the end of day, its easy to find contentment and peace, but its not the end of the day.

See....here's where I get frustrated and feel misunderstood by y'all Caps. I never said sit around and twiddle your thumbs waiting for life to bring good things to you. I'm saying simply be happy for the things you have. Reaching for the stars does NOT have to be mutually exclusive to being thakful for what one has. OK I'll shut up now....



I guess you read over the part where I said I agree with you and why lol! You are not misunderstood at all. I completely got your point the first time, and to clear up any confusion, I wasnt trying to say you said or implied anything that wasnt in your post. I was just trying to give a little more insight on what goes on beyond the appreciation for the things I personally do have. My post wasnt meant to take personally at all, it was just a continuation of my thoughts etc etc

Elle do not fuck the ringer even if she wants you fuck me.
I offered to hook up with them in Paris but m and Elle were just a little to busy
Was sdhe planing a threesome I don't know.
Perhaps I will get to her neck o the woods next time I come to the states.
However her boy toy may be bigger than I am.

I just think its because we are afraid to get hurt...

we don't wana get accustomed to having someone there, so that when they are not there we really won't care that much. We wana keep a distance so that when they hurt us we can just walk away. We are afraid of trusting because immediately that gives the other person some power over us, either to disappoint us or surprise us.

We would rather be alone, feel secure and not get out of our comfort zone rather than open up, feel so imbalanced and powerless, and tread on unpredictable ground.

We wana be stable. calm and rational. And when you get emotionally attached to someone, we have a hard time trusting that person, there's a form of resentment towards that person the minute they make us feel insecure,

we see the world as it being full of people that wana hurt others...and that it takes a lifetime before u meet a person who does not wana hurt us.

Posted by leilaxxlovez
I just think its because we are afraid to get hurt...

we don't wana get accustomed to having someone there, so that when they are not there we really won't care that much. We wana keep a distance so that when they hurt us we can just walk away. We are afraid of trusting because immediately that gives the other person some power over us, either to disappoint us or surprise us.

We would rather be alone, feel secure and not get out of our comfort zone rather than open up, feel so imbalanced and powerless, and tread on unpredictable ground.

We wana be stable. calm and rational. And when you get emotionally attached to someone, we have a hard time trusting that person, there's a form of resentment towards that person the minute they make us feel insecure,

we see the world as it being full of people that wana hurt others...and that it takes a lifetime before u meet a person who does not wana hurt us.

So what's the trick here dear cappies to get you to let people get close rather than you just having to be alone? Is it just proving loyalty/ not going away over long periods of time? Is this where/why the 'caps take a loooong time to decide' statement comes from?

This is getting out of hand.
Got a bunch of pervs
ask a simple question and they go wild.

Because anything less than perfect is not worth working on ESPECIALLY in the beginning stages.

Sry...if we just started talking, I DO NOT CARE, best be on your best behavior, cuz I am.