quiet gem...?

Can someone tell me more about my gem guy whose sun and rising are both gemini, moon in aries, venus in taurus, mars in libra?
(I have his whole birth chart if more info is needed)

Just curiosity, because I have been dating a gem for four months, and even though nothing has been said about being "exclusive", I can tell that his feelings for me have gotten much deeeper. Those feelings are definitely mutual, but being the aqua that I am, I have a tendency to keep myself somewhat detached. Yes, I would like to get more serious with him, but I figure when he's ready, he'll find the courage to speak up. Until then, I admittedly keep myself detached enough so that I won't get burned.

Just wondering if anyone could maybe shed some light on this quiet, cautious gem for me.

I just turned 32, he will be 30 in June. He has been hurt in the past, seems to be one of those who's hurt rather easily only doesn't let it show. On average, he is quite the chatterbox, and always tries to help others find the bright side of a dark situation. Very funny guy. Of course, he has his quiet moments too, but not that often.

I probably should have been specific on the "quiet" thing..the only way he keeps his lips completely sealed is when it comes to his real feelings for me. I've caught him two times now, both times we were locked in one of those "stares"...you know the kind. Both times, it was like he just almost said something, but backed out before his lips even started moving.

Hope that helps.

Here is his birth chart:

Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Gemini 23.59 (1st house)
Moon Aries 2.07 (11th house)
Mercury Gemini 6.42 (12th house)
Venus Taurus 18.08 (12th house)
Mars Libra 6.54 (5th house)
Jupiter Scorpio 0.40 R (6th house)
Saturn Libra 15.30 R (5th house)
Asc node Cancer 13.25
Neptune Sagittarius 25.43 R (7th house)
Pluto Libra 24.14 R
Lilith Sagittarius 29.22
Uranus Sagittarius 1.43 R (6th house)

Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Trine Jupiter 6.40 25
Sun Opposition Neptune 1.44 -194
Sun Trine Pluto 0.14 107
Sun Trine Midheaven 3.15 59
Moon Opposition Mars 4.46 -99
Moon Trine Uranus 0.24 114
Mercury Trine Mars 0.12 143
Mercury Opposition Uranus 4.59 -147
Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 1.32 406
Venus Square Midheaven 2.37 -59
Mars Conjunction Saturn 8.37 15
Mars Trine Ascendant 1.20 35
Jupiter Conjunction Pluto 6.26 86
Saturn Conjunction Pluto 8.43 33
Saturn Trine Ascendant 7.16 5
Saturn Trine Midheaven 5.14 18
Uranus Opposition Ascendant 6.31 -17
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.30 38
Pluto Trine Midheaven 3.29 6
1090 -516 574


House 1 in Gemini
House 2 in Cancer
House 3 in Cancer
House 4 in Leo
House 5 in Virgo
House 6 in Libra
House 7 in Sagittarius
House 8 in Capricorn
House 9 in Capricorn
House 10 in Aquarius
House 11 in Pisces
House 12 in Aries

From the time we met, he's called me every single day, except most Sundays. More often than not we're on the phone two, sometimes three hours. For the first two and a half months we'd get together every Saturday night and I'd spend all night with him because that's his only day off. The last, maybe 5 weeks or so, once or twice during the week, he'd call me either while he was at work or on his way home from work and ask if I wanted to go hang out at his place. So it's gotten to where we're together 2 or 3 nights out of the week, otherwise we're on the phone for a long time.

He mentioned to me pretty soon after we met that he hadn't had a real relationship in a few years, and that he tends to be very secretive about his feelings for people he cares about, be it friends, family, or anyone.

As an Aquarius, my intuition...or my "radar", lol...told me almost immediately that he's been hurt, not only in his last real "relationship", but in childhood as well, possibly from one or both parents. Not only that, but he's put up all kinds of walls up so he doesn't get his heart broken again, because when it breaks..it shatters.

I've known for a couple of months now that he's falling for me, and somewhat hard at that. (Again, that aqua radar is constantly running and rarely ever wrong lol) As I've mentioned before, those feelings are mutual..but in the proverbial mental battle for endurance between a gem and an aqua, lol..we're caught at a stand-off.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not wanting to rush him or anything like that; it's just my water-bearing, air-blown mind loves to analyze the butter out of almost everything. Ultimately I always end up thinking something like "I wonder who's gonna end up being the one to speak first" or "I would bring up the subject, but I'd hate to scare him by doing so and treetrunking everything up."

I'm not even sure what I'm asking...maybe the answer to how to end our so-called stand-off so that the subject is finally out in the open.....or if I should just keep my mouth shut, ride it out and have fun. Which I really don't mind doing..I'm just tired of thinking about it all the time and feeling like I'm putting together a 1,000 piece jigsaw puzzle only to find out the last treetrunking piece doesn't even go to this puzzle..lol.

Yeah, he is VERY talkative around me normally, lol..

Until he catches himself staring at me and thinking whatever it is he's thinking...then he gets extremely shy and just smiles a lot, and starts covering it up with off-the-wall twisted bullbutter...some of the funniest things I've ever heard.

his rising is gemini

Posted by thebiggcarlos

Posted by trolltrain
hell...im still like that sometime...lol

anyways, what is his rising? I come off very scorp like.

i find it pretty damn strange to believe he's a gemini rising gemini. gemini risers are not known to be quiet (like say a scorpio rising gemini like me). that's a scorpio rising trait, not gemini rising.

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Totally true...straight from Ripley's believe it or not, lol.

Just so there's no confusion with anyone, though, the ONLY way I'd dare refer to him as "quiet" or "shy" is those times he suddenly realizes somewhere in his mind all over again that his feelings for me run pretty deep. Normally he is literally the life of the party. Honestly, I think the quietness and shyness is only showing up because he's scared butterless to admit he's coming across the big four letter "L" word...like I said, he's one of those types that hurts easily in regards to matters of the heart, and hurts very deeply.

And when you consider that his venus is in taurus, from what I understand they are pretty reserved and cautious until they are absolutely sure of the person they're with.

What the hell...?

DeadRingerr and thebiggcarlos, I can understand how you might not be able to wrap your mind around the fact that he acts nothing like some of the aspects listed in his chart, but jumping out and calling me a phonie, telling me to wake up, and that I'm making shit up is completely uncalled for. The crack I made about Ripley's Believe it or Not was simply that...a crack. A fucking joke.
I get it, I rocked your little worlds on this board here with my information, but it's true and accurate. No, I don't expect you to believe it at all, but I'm pretty sure I can get by in life not giving two fucks about what anyone thinks, least of all a couple of jokers from a fucking message board I don't even know.
I am fully aware that astrology is real. I got that. Otherwise I wouldn't waste my time researching the shit. So he's acting like a scorpio rising. First of all, I had realized that when I met him four months ago. Second, the rising sign is how the world sees you. I mentioned at least TWICE he only gets quiet...SOMETIMES...and ONLY regarding him having such a problem saying ANYTHING regarding how he really feels about me...which would have to do with his fucking VENUS sign, which is Taurus. Take a damn minute to research it before you pick apart my posts without reading enough so that you UNDERSTAND what I've had to say TOO MANY fucking times. You know, the one thebiggcarlos posted the same damn thing twice about? Exactly! Why is it so damn hard for you two to understand??
Yes, his Sun, Rising, and Mercury are ALL in Gemini....I DON'T have a problem with that. He's got the communication thing down like a fucking pro...EXCEPT those few times, for example..he walked me to my car Monday morning, we made small talk for about 10 minutes while he hugged and kissed on me...twice during that time alone we got caught up in one of those 10 or 15 second stares, and both times he'd open his mouth and start to talk, but stop himself.
I'm tired of trying to make this easy for you jerkoffs to understand. Either chill the fuck out and maybe help me shed some light on why he's doing this, or simply disappear from my posts altogether.
Whatever.

Deadringer and thebigcarlos - seriously? Is there any need for the shit you've both posted?

You pair of miserable cunts. Fucking idiots.

Yeah, I kinda caught on that his computer messed up when I read it the first time around. Hooked on phonics worked for me too , you know.

Talking, I don't mind. It's blowing hot air straight out your ass that stinks up the place. If people have no time to be bothered, then "they" should use some self control and choose NOT to log on in the first place. I twisted nobody's arm.
As for my "long dissertation"...LOL, what else was I to do? You ever seen an Aqua sit on their thumbs patiently while others are busy dumping shit all over them? Me either.

In any case, I do have to say,...it's been fun, lol.

LoL, nobody twisted my arm. I willingly took the time to tell you off. The real funny part is the fact that you keep coming back for more. But then so do I, to "put myself out there". lol.

Yes, I am having too much fun, and yes, I-like any other Aqua-have to have the last word, lol.

Your turn.

You tell me...😉

Actually, I'm headed to McDonalds...all this bitching back and forth now I'm fuckin starving, lol.

i know i'm going to state the obvious here but please bare with me... our moon is how we feel and our venus is how we love. mercury is how we communicate. it all plays a part in this together. including our sun and our rising. which the chart you posted says that his asc node is indeed a water sign - cancer. your right, his emotions do run deep. and with the gem placements he will hide his feelings for fear of getting hurt (been burned before), for fear of non-reciprocation (sp?), or for fear of rejection. i have a lot of water placements in my chart but i don't come out with my feelings with/about my aqua bf cuz of my gem placements. and my aqua already knows... the gem/cancer parts of me knows he knows and it's so refreshing not to have to say it all the time. if i hesitate to say anything about my feelings, it's cuz i am scared of how he will take it. we've been together for almost a year now and we've only uttered the "L" word twice. we just know cuz we show it in everything we do for one another. when he feels comfortable enough, he'll say it. i really do hope this helps. 🙂

Well the ascendent node is karmic and it's about the lessons you need to learn in this life. It has little to do with how one acts in relationships. Aspects of the node between charts may have some merit but I don't think this is the issue here. His venus will make him slow to act in relationships and he really, really, REALLY needs to be sure but if the Aqua gets distant on him in intimate moments then he'll keep it in. Yeah, even with all that Gemini and especially Aries moon which wants to blurt out "Who farted?" in an elevator. When it comes to love, you Gems are a live wire, highly sensitive and it ain't easy to get to your chewy, sweet center.

He needs a clue from her but she keeps looking for him to do all the work and that's the problem. My first real boyfriend was a Gem and we had that kind of thing but I let him know how much I treasured his friendship and was receptive to him. I didn't get distant or pushed, just was there and let him know in different ways how I cared. You'll have to do your part Aqua, relationships are two sided.
Gemini is a mutuable sign and needs give and take. Get off your fixed platform and give him some honey. It's worth it, because he's got a lot to give.

misslissa--thank you very much for looking past all the BS on this post and actually helping me. I was hoping for someone like yours and Mistery's very helpful responses when I started this post. Others wanted to make it difficult just for the sake of being smartasses, so I gave up on the idea of actual "help and advice" from my post and played their game.

Mistery--thanks for the advice. I'm the first to admit I can, subconsciously, become distant or pull back. Having heard it from someone with Gem experience, though, hopefully I'll be able to catch myself from now on.

Again, thanks to you both. As for the rest of you....Yikes. A little tact from the very beginning would be much more helpful to anyone posting looking for help. You saw my ugly side rather quickly because as you have to admit, the name calling etc. came from you two first.

All I asked for was a different point of view for my situation. I didn't ask to be bashed and torn down. Now that I've finally gotten some great advice from misslissa and Mistery, I won't be coming back until Hell freezes over.

thank you Mistery for the clairification. i learned something new today already! and i just woke up! 🙂 that's a new personal record for me. lol! aquagirl80 - it's no worries. i know how difficult i can be in ANY kind of relationship. so, i know how others would need some clairity sometimes. wishing good luck to you both. 🙂

Posted by oldskoolflavor

Is that French *it's mumbly*? And wow, EEE, you knew the lyrics? That's hawt! I could only make out a few words. Ah, 3 years of high school French classes is wasted yet again! Along with Algebra...

@Misslissa,

The nodes are interesting. The northern is supposed to be about what you should learn now. The southern node (the opposite of the northern) is about possible past lives/relationships so some people take the southern node more into consideration if you have that overwhelming familiar and immediate connection with someone.

ninh--Thank you very much! Very helpful information indeed 🙂

Hello Aquagirl80,

I'm a Gemini rising w/Aries moon. Usually, I'm pretty talkative, however, when I'm around someone I'm falling for and interested in, I hang back and I get all mushy and less chatty. My chart is mostly fire so, I'm not the MOST chatty, but I love a good conversation. I seem to thinkn that he's pretty into you and just processing his feelings. Hope this helps and good luck!