Approaching Leo women

I find this to be strange.

It appears on the outside Leo women are all about themselves and doing their own thing.

To me it feels as though, sometimes, I am interrupting their personal endeavours to just talk to them.

Flattery works well, though beyond that I can't seem to get any solid discussion.

They are so into whatever they are doing they don't make the effort to contact you back.
I noticed once they are no longer actively met with a social circle or move to a new one, they make little to no effort to follow up and just leave those folks behind.

It seems to me they expect the man to make all the moves and will only entertain these moves at their whim.

Leo ladies, advice?

I have not known a Leo woman well enough to decode their thought patterns.

Sounds almost like you're waiting to be noticed.

Maybe if you pursue more aggressively, you will have better luck.

As far as having an actual discussion, flattery probably isn't the best way to go.

We like it, but go too far and you'll demean yourself.

Talk about something substantial-- you look like you're into politics, judging from your avatar; start there.

DUUUUDE

YOU'RE ALIVE!

Posted by Cajunspirit

Leo ladies, advice?

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If you talk like you type you don't have a snowballs chance in hell.

I don't even understand what "interrupting their personal endeavors mean" and I have a degree.

You are too young to be so serious. I hate to tell you not to be yourself, but please don't be yourself.

You wanna know what we like....FUN. Anything fun. To be honest you don't sound very fun.

Are you fun?

I'll tell you how my dad did it though: he played hard to get. Don't know what my mom was thinking..they were classmates in college but he was friendly and nice to everyone, while completely ignoring her. She already found him smart and good looking so it wasn't just a challenge for her. She persevered til they got together and then married.

Don't know if this works with Leo Women, only for my folks it did.

Posted by Damnata
DUUUUDE

YOU'RE ALIVE!

Indeed, though I don't recall anyone under this alias :o

Posted by Nala13


If you talk like you type you don't have a snowballs chance in hell.

I don't even understand what "interrupting their personal endeavors mean" and I have a degree.

You are too young to be so serious. I hate to tell you not to be yourself, but please don't be yourself.

You wanna know what we like....FUN. Anything fun. To be honest you don't sound very fun.

Are you fun?

Hahaha, fun is subjective to the parties involved is it not?
By most folks measure of the stick, I am most certainly not "fun".

Posted by Nell55

I am like that though. I have my goals and am always working on achieving them. I walk a road and more often than not others on the road are simply passing or being passed. I'm really more solitary than into being in social circles.I don't agree with the idea that lions are always with a huge entourage. Why should someone "follow-up" with something they are no longer interested in? We are fire, very active.
As for men making the first move...yeah. They should more. I can't speak for all leo women when it comes to this but I want a more dominant, confident man whose not going to imply his interest but be straight forward with it. Other than that, I'm not sure what you're really asking for.

Glad to see I am not that far off.
I want to get an idea of what the expectations are of a man in a general sense.

Posted by Montgomery
Sounds almost like you're waiting to be noticed.

Maybe if you pursue more aggressively, you will have better luck.

As far as having an actual discussion, flattery probably isn't the best way to go.

We like it, but go too far and you'll demean yourself.

Talk about something substantial-- you look like you're into politics, judging from your avatar; start there.

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Of this much I am aware, but those in my age group are not remotely interested in politics.
Aggressive pursuit, hmm, not my style .

You couldn't have recalled me..I was a lurker when you were posting. Weren't you with an Aries chick at some point?

Posted by Damnata
You couldn't have recalled me..I was a lurker when you were posting. Weren't you with an Aries chick at some point?

Yes, circa early 2011.

I dated a Sagittarius after that and after 2 years, she lied and betrayed me to be with a rich sweet talking Libra, haha.

My Leo best friend LOVES someone who's dominant and aggressive in pursuit. She bawks but secretly likes it. A sure way to know if your method is working is if she's playfully sarcastic or catty with you & gives you attention/intense-interesting conversations.

Walk away now. Why? Based on your description of you.

You are not fun.
You are not aggressive.
Your ex left you for a rich , sweet talking Libra. So would a Lioness.

May I suggest a Virgo, Capricorn or Taurus woman?

You are probably very nice but I do not think it would work. I consider myself a grounded/boring Leo women with my Venus, Merc and Mars all in Earth signs and even I would be bored to tears.

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Posted by Montgomery
Sounds almost like you're waiting to be noticed.

Maybe if you pursue more aggressively, you will have better luck.

As far as having an actual discussion, flattery probably isn't the best way to go.

We like it, but go too far and you'll demean yourself.

Talk about something substantial-- you look like you're into politics, judging from your avatar; start there.

Of this much I am aware, but those in my age group are not remotely interested in politics.
Aggressive pursuit, hmm, not my style .

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You can't be persistent?

Have you even asked her out on a date?

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by Damnata
You couldn't have recalled me..I was a lurker when you were posting. Weren't you with an Aries chick at some point?

Yes, circa early 2011.

I dated a Sagittarius after that and after 2 years, she lied and betrayed me to be with a rich sweet talking Libra, haha.

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Again with a Sag? You don't learn do you?😄

Posted by trashedbliss
My Leo best friend LOVES someone who's dominant and aggressive in pursuit. She bawks but secretly likes it. A sure way to know if your method is working is if she's playfully sarcastic or catty with you & gives you attention/intense-interesting conversations.

That's confounding. It does seem like you have to aggressively demand the attention.

Posted by KittyKnitter
Ok, to get to this lionness's heart, know who you are, what you can give and what you want and need from me. don't analyze me, that will get you nowhere. ask me anything you want and let me decide what i share with you. leo is a masculine sign, i am not going to fall at your feet or swoon no matter how sexy or charming you think you are. i like a guy to be honest, straightfoward, confident, bold, and challenging. he has to be respectful, listen to what i say, value my opinion, share my skeptical sense of humor, and stimulate me to think about things in a different way, as well as keeping me guessing sometimes in a playful not manipulative way because if i sense i am being played, i will walk. if he shows that he genuinely appreciates me with compliments that are based on me specifically and on the truth, then i see that he really does respect me and is working to get to know me. then i will let him in on my terms, which is as an equal. i am a do-er as well as a thinker and proud of it. i have a lot going on in my life. when someone is important to me i make time for them but i will not be smothered. i will not be bossed and i will not be harnessed either.

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Thank you very much for this detailed description, lots of useful nuances.
My observation though is that you really have to exert yourself, put your self out there to get back a reaction. To me I would summate it as forcing yourself on them, but I am just a quiet little Virgo, so perhaps my views are more conservative.

The few that have spoken to me on a personal level, I really enjoyed the straightforwardness and honesty. Then there is one who seems to believe everyone has to agree with her view of life and will lash out if you try to express otherwise.

I just wonder at what point does the reciprocation begin?
After he has repeatedly and boldly asserted himself into your life and you decide he's worth your time?

Posted by Nala13
Walk away now. Why? Based on your description of you.

You are not fun.
You are not aggressive.
Your ex left you for a rich , sweet talking Libra. So would a Lioness.

May I suggest a Virgo, Capricorn or Taurus woman?

You are probably very nice but I do not think it would work. I consider myself a grounded/boring Leo women with my Venus, Merc and Mars all in Earth signs and even I would be bored to tears.

Some enormous assumptions going on in this post.
I am not pursuing one. I am simply trying to fill some gaps I have on approaching Leo women. I don't imagine any of them would find me interesting and with a more reactive approach to relationships and life, in some respects, I definitely don't see one realistically willing to get close to me.

Nell and kittknitter, helped me understand the thinking. Which is what I am after. For this I am indebted to them.

Posted by Montgomery

You can't be persistent?

Have you even asked her out on a date?

I can be very persistent but I need motivation.
I have already been blandly told they are not interested in me romantically, couple that with a "if you don't talk to me, I will forget you" modus operandi and you're just left flat aren'tcha?

Posted by Damnata

Again with a Sag? You don't learn do you?😄

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Attraction is what it is. But you can't change who people are.
Hypocrites, liars and narcissists will be themselves no matter how much you sacrifice, compromise and break your rules for them.

I don't consider that a man has to force himself on me or exert a lot of energy to get my attention, but I think if he is consistent with showing his interest I'll definitely take notice. It's not the force of his pursuit but the steadiness of it that turns my head.

I think it's understandable that no one really wants to feel like they're putting themselves out there without a net, and this can definitely be said for myself as a Leo female as well. And as I'm straightforward and direct, I've certainly been burned by overstretching myself towards someone that wasn't as interested as I was.

So now I tend to mirror the interest and actions of others, at least early on in getting to know someone. If I'm interested in someone and see that they're regularly initiating contact, then I feel comfortable doing the same. If they respond back to my messages/calls promptly then I will extend that courtesy as well.

The key thing for myself is the initial attraction (not in a strictly romantic/sexual sense). If I click with someone I will be responsive to their interest, and if they are making the time to contact me I will make the time for them barring any major obstacles. But if I don't feel like we click, it's unlikely that I will reciprocate their efforts regardless of how strong or mild their advances.

Being an all or nothing sort of person comes with its own complications, and so I safeguard my time/energy/emotion for the people who I not only have some kind of spark/connection with, but also those who are steady in displaying their interest. For better or worse, people tend to know if I want to pursue a connection with them or not based on whether I'm around or not. I don't believe in playing games or leading people on so if I don't feel a spark or interest on my end, I won't do someone the disservice of being around and encouraging one-sided feelings.

Posted by UntamedLeo
I don't consider that a man has to force himself on me or exert a lot of energy to get my attention, but I think if he is consistent with showing his interest I'll definitely take notice. It's not the force of his pursuit but the steadiness of it that turns my head.

I think it's understandable that no one really wants to feel like they're putting themselves out there without a net, and this can definitely be said for myself as a Leo female as well. And as I'm straightforward and direct, I've certainly been burned by overstretching myself towards someone that wasn't as interested as I was.

So now I tend to mirror the interest and actions of others, at least early on in getting to know someone. If I'm interested in someone and see that they're regularly initiating contact, then I feel comfortable doing the same. If they respond back to my messages/calls promptly then I will extend that courtesy as well.

The key thing for myself is the initial attraction (not in a strictly romantic/sexual sense). If I click with someone I will be responsive to their interest, and if they are making the time to contact me I will make the time for them barring any major obstacles. But if I don't feel like we click, it's unlikely that I will reciprocate their efforts regardless of how strong or mild their advances.

Being an all or nothing sort of person comes with its own complications, and so I safeguard my time/energy/emotion for the people who I not only have some kind of spark/connection with, but also those who are steady in displaying their interest. For better or worse, people tend to know if I want to pursue a connection with them or not based on whether I'm around or not. I don't believe in playing games or leading people on so if I don't feel a spark or interest on my end, I won't do someone the disservice of being around and encouraging one-sided feelings.

I can totally respect this. This is what I expect of most folks in fact.

Posted by CluelessCancer

He's a Virgo he'll never get it. When I used to google "Virgos" his name would come up-and he's the stereotypical unevolved type, has the perfect response for any issues.

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So quick to caste judgement, won't you buy me a drink first? lol

Excellent insight there jynja.

Care to elaborate a little more on this "faltering" ?

Posted by Cajunspirit
I have already been blandly told they are not interested in me romantically, couple that with a "if you don't talk to me, I will forget you" modus operandi and you're just left flat aren'tcha?

Of course.

And still, you want her-- but you expect her to generate the motivation.

Is this correct? o.O

Posted by Jynja

On my side, it seems that a lot of Virgo men don't like being in a spotlight, it makes them all nervous and stuff. Yet, Leo women tend to be human spotlights (though most of us are not crazy about it, people tend to notice us wherever we go).

Virgo gets uncomfortable in that light, and starts to worry about it.

Hmm, I imagine it more being how you respond to the spotlight. The little Virgo likes to feel needed and I think Leos being headstrong and basking or responding assertively in the spotlight independent of the Virgo might be what makes us feel inadequate.

In another vein, they falter when the woman they've been pursuing finally responds to them. Some Virgo men seem to worry about how to act now that she's paying attention. Or, they worry that they are not acting as they should.

It's quite endearing, actually.

That sounds about right, going from the chase to caught is a transition.
I personally, approach every individual differently. I like to make sure I know before hand their likes, dislikes and how they want to be treated. It's a feeling out process that takes months.

Posted by Montgomery

Of course.

And still, you want her-- but you expect her to generate the motivation.

Is this correct? o.O

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Nope, nothing in common.
The one I do fancy lives pretty far away and has her own fan club lol