Posted by seraph
It's actually between 2-3 miles out.
Posted by FUM
Why did you hide your post? I don't visit often unless I have issues to get resolved.
Please do tell... I never saw Leos that deep but I think they have another side which I am just finding out.
Or is it me who brings out 'hurts' of anybody?
Hurt, understand, heal. I think that is what I'm doing. My communication can suffer if I switch to verbal. So I'm curious to know of what makes a LEO think s/he smells a 'game'?
(Scorpio here)
Posted by FUM
Why did you hide your post? I don't visit often unless I have issues to get resolved.
Please do tell... I never saw Leos that deep but I think they have another side which I am just finding out.
Or is it me who brings out 'hurts' of anybody?
Hurt, understand, heal. I think that is what I'm doing. My communication can suffer if I switch to verbal. So I'm curious to know of what makes a LEO think s/he smells a 'game'?
(Scorpio here)
Posted by SunMoomLioness
Is it just me or do all Leos see game coming a mile away! It's like I got some sixth sense about it or something. I am amazed how so many people try to play game...and I'm dead on top of it before it even gets going good. Most of the time I won't say word... or even indicate that I know what's up...just let you think you're getting over on me and go along. See how far you'll take it. It quite entertaining. Just wondering if all Leos behave this way.
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
Why did you hide your post? I don't visit often unless I have issues to get resolved.
Please do tell... I never saw Leos that deep but I think they have another side which I am just finding out.
Or is it me who brings out 'hurts' of anybody?
Hurt, understand, heal. I think that is what I'm doing. My communication can suffer if I switch to verbal. So I'm curious to know of what makes a LEO think s/he smells a 'game'?
(Scorpio here)
Not smell it...see it from far off! I can only speak of myself here, as I'm trying to find out if other Leos do the same, but it seems to me that most people see Leos as reactionary...at least I tend to be, but I am also very much a thinker and a watcher of behavior and patterns- a quality missed by most which gives us the advantage. I tend to think of cancers, scorpios, etc, as having that sixth sense about them, but I also know I tend to know a LOT more of what is going on than I let on. Other signs may react to stuff, but I don't always feel the need to react even if its pissing me off. Sometimes I will let things slide a lot longer than most because I'm analyzing and gathering data and storing it for later retrieval to use. I may not know exactly what you are "planning", but I have a sense of what you are trying to "accomplish" while you're still in the planning stage of it! LOL. But tend not to use it to play game back necessarily as some might ( in actuality, I really hate game- prefer to be straight up and honest) but I will let game slide just for the sake of knowing EXACTLY who I am dealing with. This allows me to categorize you...can/should I trust them, how much I will let them in -if at all, etc. Personally, it also an entertainment thing for me (sometime I just get bored). I like seeing people think they got away with something knowing all the while secretly, I KNOW! Maybe a sense of power? I don't know.click to expand
Posted by TheLioness79Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
Why did you hide your post? I don't visit often unless I have issues to get resolved.
Please do tell... I never saw Leos that deep but I think they have another side which I am just finding out.
Or is it me who brings out 'hurts' of anybody?
Hurt, understand, heal. I think that is what I'm doing. My communication can suffer if I switch to verbal. So I'm curious to know of what makes a LEO think s/he smells a 'game'?
(Scorpio here)
Not smell it...see it from far off! I can only speak of myself here, as I'm trying to find out if other Leos do the same, but it seems to me that most people see Leos as reactionary...at least I tend to be, but I am also very much a thinker and a watcher of behavior and patterns- a quality missed by most which gives us the advantage. I tend to think of cancers, scorpios, etc, as having that sixth sense about them, but I also know I tend to know a LOT more of what is going on than I let on. Other signs may react to stuff, but I don't always feel the need to react even if its pissing me off. Sometimes I will let things slide a lot longer than most because I'm analyzing and gathering data and storing it for later retrieval to use. I may not know exactly what you are "planning", but I have a sense of what you are trying to "accomplish" while you're still in the planning stage of it! LOL. But tend not to use it to play game back necessarily as some might ( in actuality, I really hate game- prefer to be straight up and honest) but I will let game slide just for the sake of knowing EXACTLY who I am dealing with. This allows me to categorize you...can/should I trust them, how much I will let them in -if at all, etc. Personally, it also an entertainment thing for me (sometime I just get bored). I like seeing people think they got away with something knowing all the while secretly, I KNOW! Maybe a sense of power? I don't know.
+1000 I am the same way. I really observe people and get a good feel for them. If they are trying to get over on me...it is like playing chess, I already have it played out.click to expand
Posted by FUM
... I never saw Leos that deep...
(Scorpio here)
Posted by seraphPosted by FUM
oh ..LOL
ok now re-reading subject line.
And Scorpios we can spot about 5 miles out.
That stinger puts out serious heat signature. 😉click to expand
Posted by TheLioness79
SML, I am pretty much the same way. I am pretty spot on with my instincts and observations. I also listen to my internal intuitive instincts about people. I am usually able to get a read on someone within the first 60 seconds of meeting them. I have been able to tell who that person is to the exact point many times before. So I knew what to expect from them. I have had weird reactions to a couple of people. My closest friend, when I first meet him, it was an immediate rush calmness come over me. Another person I meet literally made me sick to stomach. The positive or negative reactions to people are the people I get an instant read on. It is the neutral reactions that I have to evaluate and observe to figure that person out.
I agree too, with the observations of patterns and body language. I file and calculate. I too do not like playing games, I am to direct, doesn't mean I don't know the playbook. I will bait to test out a person to see their reaction on something, but I just sit back and watch and act like all is cool. It is fun at time true and also I hope I am wrong...usually not. But because I have given my trust and my all to so many people to have it violated, that also be why I am very cautious.
Posted by SunMoomLioness
Is it just me or do all Leos see game coming a mile away! It's like I got some sixth sense about it or something. I am amazed how so many people try to play game...and I'm dead on top of it before it even gets going good. Most of the time I won't say word... or even indicate that I know what's up...just let you think you're getting over on me and go along. See how far you'll take it. It quite entertaining. Just wondering if all Leos behave this way.
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by TheLioness79
I will bait to test out a person to see their reaction on something, but I just sit back and watch and act like all is cool. It is fun at time true and also I hope I am wrong...usually not. But because I have given my trust and my all to so many people to have it violated, that also be why I am very cautious.click to expand
The 'bait' can be quite grand. I've seen from my Leon friends of how they put out a big chunk. I would play with less, but your 'bait' is blindingly large. I have also seen the Leo taking it back in an instant, if they see faul play. It may take a while until convinced, because there is (I think) this underlying good faith at start-up. Whereas in my case, I proceed super cautious, to a point of overkill, making me look unapproachable.
Posted by FUM
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by TheLioness79
I will bait to test out a person to see their reaction on something, but I just sit back and watch and act like all is cool. It is fun at time true and also I hope I am wrong...usually not. But because I have given my trust and my all to so many people to have it violated, that also be why I am very cautious.
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
... I never saw Leos that deep...
(Scorpio here)
My mind is always replaying scenes, conversations, etc. comparing it to info already gathered from the universe! LOL.
Maybe that's the difference-
Scorpios have this elusive, but very accurate instinct such that they know things without needing to have all the information.
Where I feel my ability to accurate predict is based on patterns and a careful assimilation of previously gathered data from waaay back when the information seemed insignificant, but was stored away anyway and now can be called upon at a moment's notice when instinct suddenly puts me on high alert!
Basically, time is our friend!click to expand
Posted by FUMPosted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
... I never saw Leos that deep...
(Scorpio here)
My mind is always replaying scenes, conversations, etc. comparing it to info already gathered from the universe! LOL.
Maybe that's the difference-
Scorpios have this elusive, but very accurate instinct such that they know things without needing to have all the information.
Where I feel my ability to accurate predict is based on patterns and a careful assimilation of previously gathered data from waaay back when the information seemed insignificant, but was stored away anyway and now can be called upon at a moment's notice when instinct suddenly puts me on high alert!
Basically, time is our friend!
First I like to apologize when I wrote, not seeing Leos that deep. What I mean by 'deep' is the underlying darker side.
I'm so moved by reading your account on how you evaluate by patterns. What makes my heart move even further is the good will Leos come up with first. Very sweet.
I should stop reading these posts for a while or else I may get the temptation on contacting Mr. Leo.
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Posted by FUM
Chess
Is on the Mark!
He told me how he plays chess thinking 10 turns ahead. Was actually a champion at it for a while.
Comparing with cats, they watch you so closely that you think, they will repeat what you are doing.
I find this post so enlightening. Never saw my dear Lion friends in that light.
🙂
Posted by FUM
...Whereas in my case, I proceed super cautious, to a point of overkill, making me look unapproachable.
Posted by SunMoomLioness
OMG...same here! It's amazing how accurate that judgement call is. I think that's why some people have problems with us sometimes ...they don't like it that we've figured them out so quickly! Nice to know its a leo trait and not just me!
Posted by FUMPosted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
... I never saw Leos that deep...
(Scorpio here)
My mind is always replaying scenes, conversations, etc. comparing it to info already gathered from the universe! LOL.
Maybe that's the difference-
Scorpios have this elusive, but very accurate instinct such that they know things without needing to have all the information.
Where I feel my ability to accurate predict is based on patterns and a careful assimilation of previously gathered data from waaay back when the information seemed insignificant, but was stored away anyway and now can be called upon at a moment's notice when instinct suddenly puts me on high alert!
Basically, time is our friend!
First I like to apologize when I wrote, not seeing Leos that deep. What I mean by 'deep' is the underlying darker side.
I'm so moved by reading your account on how you evaluate by patterns. What makes my heart move even further is the good will Leos come up with first. Very sweet.
I should stop reading these posts for a while or else I may get the temptation on contacting Mr. Leo.
click to expand
Posted by FUM
This makes me think now.
First I wanted to say, I think Leos posses natural properties to games.. just for fun... nothing serious.
Posted by FUMPosted by FUMPosted by SunMoomLioness
The 'bait' can be quite grand. I've seen from my Leon friends of how they put out a big chunk. I would play with less, but your 'bait' is blindingly large. I have also seen the Leo taking it back in an instant, if they see faul play. It may take a while until convinced, because there is (I think) this underlying good faith at start-up. Whereas in my case, I proceed super cautious, to a point of overkill, making me look unapproachable.click to expand
Posted by TheLioness79
Those deep dark sides of us....we hold very very close. Those are our vulnerabilities. Unless you can gain our trust 100% , you may see it then...and may not. We do not like to show what can be used against us. We have a strong wall around it. Like SML said. She evaluates people to see what level to trust them and where to rank them. I call those my circles. My inner circle is very tight and right now only includes one person and even then it is a personal battle of push and pull to keep that person there. The other circles will see a degree of my in "dark side", it depends on how much I trust them and with what I trust them with.
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by TheLioness79
Those deep dark sides of us....we hold very very close. Those are our vulnerabilities. Unless you can gain our trust 100% , you may see it then...and may not. We do not like to show what can be used against us. We have a strong wall around it. Like SML said. She evaluates people to see what level to trust them and where to rank them. I call those my circles. My inner circle is very tight and right now only includes one person and even then it is a personal battle of push and pull to keep that person there. The other circles will see a degree of my in "dark side", it depends on how much I trust them and with what I trust them with.
L79, no you didn't use the word circle! That's EXACTLY how I categorize people! If you think of concentric circles (one circle inside another circle inside another, etc) the inner most circle would be a VERY VERY small # of people...whom I trust 100% ...the outer most circle are people I likely don't trust, but will tolerate. And those not in any circle pretty much don't exist- not worth my time or energy. Not necessarily an enemy, just "ruled" completely out.click to expand
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by TheLioness79
Those deep dark sides of us....we hold very very close. Those are our vulnerabilities. Unless you can gain our trust 100% , you may see it then...and may not. We do not like to show what can be used against us. We have a strong wall around it. Like SML said. She evaluates people to see what level to trust them and where to rank them. I call those my circles. My inner circle is very tight and right now only includes one person and even then it is a personal battle of push and pull to keep that person there. The other circles will see a degree of my in "dark side", it depends on how much I trust them and with what I trust them with.
L79, no you didn't use the word circle! That's EXACTLY how I categorize people! If you think of concentric circles (one circle inside another circle inside another, etc) the inner most circle would be a VERY VERY small # of people...whom I trust 100% ...the outer most circle are people I likely don't trust, but will tolerate. And those not in any circle pretty much don't exist- not worth my time or energy. Not necessarily an enemy, just "ruled" completely out.click to expand
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by FUM
...Whereas in my case, I proceed super cautious, to a point of overkill, making me look unapproachable.
Which is unfortunate, because scorps deep love is so moving and atleast for me, the fact that they can read me so well makes me feel safe and secure! The ones I know are so wise and I personally love how differently they think than me-it's such a challenge -and I love those! _—
Scorps use to scare me to death! LOL...because I've been stung by them a few times. 😢
They really know how to cut to the bone (not saying I didn't deserve it a time or two _— )...I've learned to give them the proper respect (those stings taught me that!! Lol).
...on a serious note though... all that caution is really robbing others of experiencing something beautiful, real, and deep! Just saying. _—click to expand
Posted by FUM
Leo said to me, he trusts me most. He would even let me handle finances of his business.
Getting to where we have been has not been easy. It took us years. It's flattering when trusted this much. He used to trust my advice, but finances?
Posted by SexyScorpion
My experience with my leo boyfriend.. He has tested me, played all kind of games but I stood my ground. Interesting thing he plays all these games thinking I don't get or understand...
Posted by SexyScorpion
I don't let him see how much hurt its causing me.
Posted by SexyScorpion
Also he asks questions to know my weakness and he has used it to punish me. I know he is punishing me and I let him do it.
Posted by SexyScorpion
One thing I resent is tit for tat....
Posted by SexyScorpion
I believe in this theory and that's the reason I didnt budge when my guy was testing me.
Posted by SexyScorpion
I feel leos are very protective of their heart ...but what they portray is very different.
Posted by SexyScorpion
He is holding it so tight...He tries to confuse me at times because how well I read him.
Posted by SexyScorpionPosted by FUM
SexyScorpion --
...I do smell a sense of game play
He said, "Too bad, we both are losing out on being best friends. Good luck!
He does play games ( I don't know if it's games or to see if i care enough...click to expand
Posted by SexyScorpionPosted by SunMoomLionessPosted by SexyScorpion
I don't let him see how much hurt its causing me.
May i suggest to tell him how he's hurting you. But in such a way he wants to listen and not attack. I know for myself, if I'm attack, I simply attack back. I display more patience though if I'm really really in love with the person...but from time to time I will attack if I feel I have been more than fair and patient and that you're just simply taking advantage. My ex Cancer bf learned how to get me to feel bad about my behavior but only if I had really been bad. If you let us get away with something, usually we will "self" correct the behavior because we're also always evaluating ourselves, but not always...and that's when the significant other SHOULD definitely speak up. If I think I can walk all over someone, truth is I lose respect for that person. It's a fine line...try to control me and I will roar...let me control you and don't stand up to me and I'm likely to leave you.
I am careful at times to say my heart to him as I am not the most diplomatic and articulate person in the world when it comes to expressing emotions and it always seems like i am attacking him...he retaliates by being mean..I have shown him little bit that its hurting me and I have decided to back off now. So really don't know how to approach him....I remember Seraph suggesting me the same thing in one of my threads...
Thanks..All this has been very helpful...🙂click to expand
Posted by SunMoomLionessPosted by SexyScorpionPosted by FUM
SexyScorpion --
...I do smell a sense of game play
He said, "Too bad, we both are losing out on being best friends. Good luck!
He does play games ( I don't know if it's games or to see if i care enough...
I've thrown in the towel several times in relationships out of sheer frustration. For me, sometimes bye isn't really bye, its more like I give up for now.
One thing I've learned about myself is that if I am really done with a relationship, there's not much drama around it because I'm in a resolute and taking care if business state of mind. If I'm being a drama queen, I'm not really ready to give you up, but only frustrated. If I'm quiet or my communication changes such that I don't have much to say ( as you can see that's saying a lot from these texts LOL)...leaving for good is on the horizon.
That whole best friend bit seems to be saying...i still want us to be together, but sense you don't care I'll try to act like I don't care either...and it also seems to me he's trying to tug on something deeper he's figured out about you because it not just friends but "best" friends...
For example, in past failed attempts to break up with my cancer bf, I would say..."well I really hate that it's not going to work out because we could have had something really great, real, honest, open, lasting...like, forever you know? "Forever." But if it's not gonna work out its not gonna work out..."
What is that about?
I know his past gfs were not faithful and hurt him deeply and he feels like he always lose people he loves. So I'm trying to tug on that area in his heart that he longs for the most...a lasting, committed, honest, open relationship...which he has with me! So I'm announcing you're letting what you've always wanted walk right out the door...and...btw...I don't want to leave, but what can I do? A bit manipulative I know, but it's really a last ditch effort on my part because I don't want it to end but I also want to get the response I want from him which is...I need you too!click to expand
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