Leo girls, please give me some advise

Hi everyone,

Haven't came here for quite awhile. I have been in a bad situation in relationship/break up period with a Leo girl.



Me and her been on and off in relationship for 5 years since I met her in college. We did have good time. However, in the period of 5 years we broke up so many times. After few months of being together, she would completely change( such as not picking up call, not reply texts, rushing to hang up phone calls, lies to me to go hangout with guy friends etc....)

I have been waiting for her to come back as I treasure this relationship very well and also trying hard to re-build the trust between me and her. I also try to change myself to be a better person in which can attract her or at least she could recognize me.

Back to Feb 2015. That was the last time we went back together after I waited 2 years. She called me one night and asked if we could have a dinner. I said yes. So things starting very good. She gave me a lot of promises, she said she found out I am the best person to get married with, she wanted to get married with me. She said that we could have a bank account together in which as a funding account for buying a property for future marriage use, she also asked how long can we buy a property, I promised her 2 years and she agreed. She knowledge that I worried to lost her again. She admitted and promised she will not dumb me again. She promised she had changed to become more maturity in relationship. I have asked that did she with any guys, she said no. I trusted half because she left me too many times. After the dinner, I am not quite sure she was joking or not, she asked if we could go to a hotel (I guess everyone knows what does that mean )or not, I stared at her and I hesitant a bit. Why? and how come she would asked me that? To me, sex is important because I only have this with the one I truly love. She also mentioned she needed love. In my mind, is that the reason she called me? just for sex or being love?

Things went well until she went back to China on June 2015. She has contacted me almost every night when she was in China but it getting less and less after days by days. I did notice something from my Cancer sense, its a bad feeling, I felt that she will dumb me again, as everything she did to me was so similar whenever she wanted to dumb me. She came back to city, she did not call me on her arrival, not even after few days and she kept saying busy every time I called her or texted her.

Around Nov 2015, as usual, she broke up with me. I really didn't know the reason, I asked so many times she finally answered me. She has changed, she said she cannot wait for 2 years and gave me a lot of reasons to break up: parents do not like me, I do not have car and house, I do not have a good job, salary too low. And she said " I do not love you anymore". I asked does she likes anyone, she said no.

Dec 2015, that was a critical moment for me. I told her I need to transfer some money back to my banking account for immigration purpose. She knew that is important and she did help me. After that, we did not contact until Feb 2016. She called me and asked how am I doing, I said ok and had a short conversation.

The next day I texted her, no reply. After few more days, she replied and said " from the date you took back the money from the account, you already has no value in my heart." I said " you agreed to help me and I told her clearly the money will transfer back once everything is done. she did not reply. I was very upset after I heard " no value in my heart".

I know I need to stop texting her , I don't want her to hate me even she might feel that already. I know I cannot get rid of her and stop thinking about in future although I have tried. I told her I would go back to my home country, she said ok but cancel the bank account first as that was the last thing connected me and her. I replied " If our heart connected, bank account does not matter" and of coz, she did not reply.

I was waiting my flight in the airport, was hoping/ wishing she would text me at least to say good bye to me. I kept waiting and waiting, the flight gone but no texts no calls. At that moment, I knew that I love wrong, I thought at least we loved each others, a goodbye text wouldn't be a big deal. I believe she did not love me much. I went back home and cried really hard and kept asking myself what did I do wrong.

I tried to hide myself and not letting her know that I'm still in the city. I waited and hoped she would text me, she did not.

Fast forward to Feb 2017, I called her , I was wondering how has she been. She picked up and a short conversation asked me why would I called her. I did not put much emotions on this as I am not sure if she has a bf or not. Finally, she told me she has a bf which started a month ago but they have some issues or might break up soon. I was very depressed and asked what happened, she told me she felt a bit sicked of him, so I goes just a month, how come you tired to him so fast. She said she doesn't know and she also said he did not treat her well. She also admitted she was treated like how she treated me. She said that is karma. I told her if she does not happy, leave that guy. After that , she asked me why did I come back, I lied to her that I just came back from home country as I don't want her to know that I have been waiting for a year. She also asked what do I want. "I said nothing, I just wanted to ensure you are doing good." To be honest, what can I ask for, she a bf now and I cannot do something bad to them.

I texted and called her next day and no replied. So I called her at night, I asked her "how bad is he treating you." she said its okay. I called her because I saw something from her WhatsApp ( I deleted for long time and just reinstalled coz I curious if she is using it or not. I saw a profile picture she was with a guy and a Greece flag behind .

So, I asked is that the guy, she said yes. I asked her once again " hm...When did you guys get together" she said" around May 2016. I said softly..."you said a month ago". I asked her did she travel to anywhere, she said no. I told her I saw that picture, she said" yeah, we went to Greece". I was very disappointed after hearing all the lies. I know I am not anything to her, but I do not understand why would she lie to a person who she loved before. I asked " is he better than me", She said " I cannot make any comparison but....your bed skill is better." I was SHOCKED, is sex that important?! I silenced a bit.

She asked me, why am I calling her and said if I keep calling or texting her, how would her bf think about. I told her, she changed a lot. When we were together, she never try to protect our relationship or put our picture as any social media profile. I told her " you seem love him very much otherwise you wont protect the relationship well. I said " if you could do that before, we probably wont break up so many times".

I told her, if he doesn't treat you well, come back to me. We can start all over again like a fresh start. She said " We cannot go back". I told her and tried to remind her our happiness moments and i have been waiting. She said she needed to solve the problem between he and she first. She told me not to call her and she will call me again. I said please don't lie to me, she said" yes yes yes, I will call you for sure."

Guys, I really lost about this. I cannot sure what will happen next. Will she get back to me? Will she call me and say they are getting married? Can I really forget what she has done with her bf? Will she lie to me again and dumb me again? Did she actually love me before? Or am I just the person she wanted to have fun with?

My biggest concern is her, I hope that guy will treat her well and give her happiness.....

Sorry about my bad English, the details story about me and her can be found in my profile posted topic.

Hope to get some feedbacks.

I do not want to be hurt again.

I am hoping that her current bf will teach her a lesson but at the same time I don't want to see that she is being mistreated even she doesn't love me anymore.

Another question: If she said we can no longer get back together then why did she say she will find me after things are solved? Is this just a simply rejection method for a Leo girl?

thanks for your answer !

Best Regards,

thank you for your answer again!

I will try harder to move on.

wow she sounds like a bitch to me, just dont talk to her. She is super materialistic and shes in the 30s? lord someone help her leo bratty ways. Go out and date someone else. whether the leo calls you back or not you shouldnt take her back. what is your sign?

Posted by MoonshineLeo
wow she sounds like a bitch to me, just dont talk to her. She is super materialistic and shes in the 30s? lord someone help her leo bratty ways. Go out and date someone else. whether the leo calls you back or not you shouldnt take her back. what is your sign?

She wasn't that materialism. I asked her does her current bf gives her house or car she said no , then I said why would you be with him then? She said she doesn't know.

Somehow, I feel that she truly love him, otherwise she wouldn't being so different in these 2 relationships. I could sense that she concern about this relationship way more than me and her past relationship.

I really cannot understand why would she still lie to me about when did they start and the trip thing. What's the point of lying? Maybe she doesn't care me at all.



Hmm...I am not quite sure the details of my sign.

Birthday: July 15, 1984

Could this be enough to roughly determine my sign?

Thank you for your advise!

Best regards,

Posted by samller

Posted by MoonshineLeo
wow she sounds like a bitch to me, just dont talk to her. She is super materialistic and shes in the 30s? lord someone help her leo bratty ways. Go out and date someone else. whether the leo calls you back or not you shouldnt take her back. what is your sign?

She want that materialism. I asked her does her current bf gives her house or car she said no , then I said why would you be with him then? She said she doesn't know.

Somehow, I feel that she truly love him, otherwise she wouldn't being so different in these 2 relationships. I could sense that she concern about this relationship way more than me and her past relationship.

I really cannot understand why would she still lie to me about when did they start and the trip thing. What's the point of lying? Maybe she doesn't care me at all.



Hmm...I am not quite sure the details of my sign.

Birthday: July 15, 1984

Could this be enough to roughly determine my sign?

Thank you for your advise!

Best regards,

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she lied because she did not want to hurt your feelings and also still wants your attention. Dont give it to her. Leos like a challenge and men that wont let us get away with some things. be strong. date someone else. You are a cancer

I think it's time to move on. It's sound like just a game to her and didn't respect a little bit of me and her relationship.

Posted by samller
I think it's time to move on. It's sound like just a game to her and didn't respect a little bit of me and her relationship.

she is so dumb for not being with you, you sound like you did alot for her. Im sorry.

Hmm.. I can't say that she is dumb for not being with me. I do understand when a person changed , things changed.

It's her right to choose, whether being good or bad. I just hope she is doing well and being treated well.

Anyways, thanks for all responses!

I miss her a lot 😢

It's another week but she hasn't contacted me yet. I am so lost now😢

Lol coming from a practical Taurus, brah you got played big time. she uses you for money and doesn't give you sex and you are still deeply in love with her lol

I know... I know she care her current bf a lot. I meant what else i can do other than waiting. I am temping to blocked her phone number as well. If I blocked her, I killed my wish too. But at the same time, I broke my promise to her.... I promised her 4 years ago, I won't let her alone any time of future.

I also heard many people say cancer and leo are quite hard to have a happy ending due to two extreme personalities.

Posted by samller
I know... I know she care her current bf a lot. I meant what else i can do other than waiting. I am temping to blocked her phone number as well. If I blocked her, I killed my wish too. But at the same time, I broke my promise to her.... I promised her 4 years ago, I won't let her alone any time of future.

I also heard many people say cancer and leo are quite hard to have a happy ending due to two extreme personalities.

Alright time to set the astrology aside on this one. I'm going to give you some tough love, one man to another.

Did she have feelings for you in the beginning? Yes. Does she now? No. How can you tell? You must always watch a woman's actions because her actions will speak louder than her words. Your ex has lost affection for you. She does not FEEL like keeping her word with you. As a man you must understand that a woman's feelings are very important too. So let's break it down.

First your relationship of 5 years was already fairly unsteady. I'll ouch on this later, but for now understand that the foundation of your relationship is already a weak one. This girl has memories of you that aren't entirely positive already. This wasn't the main problem because she did eventually come back to you after 2 years apart.

So why did she come back after two years? Well she said she realized that she was in love with you. That's a lovely sentiment, but not the entire truth. YES she did feel love for you again, but only after 2 YEARS of not being around you with no real communication. In those 2 years she was able to forget the negative aspects of your shaky 5 year relationship and decided to come back with a new mindset.

(Side Note: Be cautious of anyone who is willing to leave you and come back. Yes it is a nice feeling to get that person back, but depending on how things ended, an ex returning isn't always a good thing. Exes ALWAYS return if you were good to them. Sometimes this means that they couldn't find better than you because NO ONE else wanted them. Them returning is practically an insult. What they are saying is, "I am so terrible that no one else wanted me, but I know that YOU will take me back..." Instead when an ex returns, we all usually hear, "I made a mistake and you're the only one for me in this universe"). Please realize the difference in these two statements.

Now I'm led to believe that due to your interaction after the 2 year break up, she realized that you were a trustworthy person. What concerns me is how quickly she wanted to make plans for a life with you. It sounds like she didn't truly come back because she loved you, but because she could USE you. Your intuition even tipped you off to her motives when you said:

"After the dinner, I am not quite sure she was joking or not, she asked if we could go to a hotel (I guess everyone knows what does that mean )or not, I stared at her and I hesitant a bit. Why? and how come she would asked me that? To me, sex is important because I only have this with the one I truly love. She also mentioned she needed love. In my mind, is that the reason she called me? just for sex or being love?"

Something inside you KNEW this interaction was odd, but you were so happy to have her back that you didn't really listen to your doubt. So then you two were "seemingly" fine until June 2015, which is when she went back to China. At this point everything fell apart.

(Also know that long distance relationships are hard, but out of everyone I've known, Leos can make them work. I don't know too many Leos who haven't been in a long distance relationship at least once. So her being in China wasn't the real issue).

I'm sure you felt like everything was good before she left, but her actions from June and on make me think she had her own doubts about the relationship. You also stated that you FELT like she was going to dump you. That let's me know that you were probably talking to her everyday as a way to keep her with you. You could feel her slipping away. You now may be wondering why she didn't tell you that she was falling out of love with you. Why was her attraction for you dropping? She probably didn't know herself (or at least how to put it into words). It's also possible that she may have been using you for emotional support and stability. In reality I think she originally has some feelings for you, which is why she kept coming back.

Regardless in November she dumped you again. This time she gave you the reason, but you probably didn't understand it entirely. She blamed the break up on her parents, the fact that you don't have a job/car, the fact that you live at home, etc. What she REALLY meant was, "My feelings for you have dropped because I don't feel as if you are an internally strong man with a purpose or drive in his life to be successful. A man needs to have purpose and drive outside of his desire for a woman to truly be happy and motivated. That is what we women find attractive in a man. A man without purpose/drive is clingy, weak, and doesn't make us feel secure in his presence. As a result I am no longer attracted to you." Please understand that women may FEEL this, but won't say it outright.

As soon as she dumped you, you should have let her go (the same way you did the first time you two broke up for 2 years). This time though you kept chasing her. You continued to call and text her endlessly, even when she didn't respond. You were so wrapped in your emotions for her, probably because you promised to build a life together, that you weren't thinking clearly. Women want, even NEED, a guy who can think CLEARLY. By constantly pursuing her after your break up you effectively killed any desire she had left for you.

Also know that we Leos tend to keep the promises we make to our loved ones, so in December she helped you out by putting money into your bank account. Then you two went silent for two months. Then guess what? Since you weren't pursuing her, the feeling of attraction she had for you started to come back. As a result she called you. I repeat, SHE called you. Now this didn't mean she was ready to jump back into a relationship with you, she just wanted to see how you were doing. You were on her mind. The best place for any man to be is on a woman's mind.

Then what happened? You started texting and calling her again. You became needy, clingy, you creeped her out. You basically became a stalker instead of a strong, confident man in her eyes. So she started saying hurtful things to you like, "You have no value in my heart". At this point she was trying to let you down as best as she could. While that statement may have been hurtful, it was the only way she felt that she could say to get her point across. Generally speaking women will not say things that will hurt a man's feelings unless they feel forced to do so. Since you were constantly chasing her, she decided to be blunt.

I think her feelings did come back for you a little in February, but you promptly smothered them when you started calling and texting her incessantly. In her mind, you had not grown or changed, so she was validated in dumping you in November. That's when you finally lost her completely.

So a year later later YOU reached back out to her. This was a mistake on your part because she wasn't ready to speak with you. Remember SHE dumped you. So it's HER responsibility to reach back out to you like she had already done in the past. This time however you decided not to wait for her to initiate contact. That's when you learned that she had a boyfriend who she started dating in May 2016. That also lets you know why she hadn't contacted you for a while. She was in a relationship with someone else.

At this point you REALLY should have left her alone. Since you kept trying to talk to her, she decided that being honest with you was no longer working. Instead she lied to you and said that she would call you. She never planned to call you. She just wanted to get off of the phone.

So to answer your questions. Did she love you before? Probably, she kept coming back when you gave her space in the past. Will she come back? It's possible, but extremely unlikely. At this point you have lowered her attraction for you to the point that you may have driven her away. Even if she breaks up with her boyfriend, she may never come back to you. Will she lie to you again? Maybe, but that also depends on if she contacts you again. Remember, she lied to you to spare your feelings and because she stopped loving you.

So what should you do now? Leave her alone like you've done in the past. Move on with your life. I know that's easier said than done, but it's important for you to do this. Can you get her back, and if so how? Remember when I said a man needs to have purpose and drive for a woman to be attracted to him. That's what you need to focus on now. You need to go out there and work on yourself. Get a job, save up some money, acquire a hobby or two, get physically fit, make some new friends, and stop focusing on this particular woman. In fact find a new woman or women to date. Your ex has moved on, it's time you did too.

The ONLY reason you feel this bad is because you have yet to move on to new opportunities. Do not let this one person rob you of life's many treasures. I believe that everyone here can empathize with your situation and we have all felt significant heartache. Anyone will tell you that the best thing to do is to pick yourself back up and find better opportunities for yourself. When you do this, you may find that there will be so many women who are interested in you that you simple won't have time to feel bad anymore.

I strongly urge you focus on your own emotional and physical health. Start going for a run, join a gym, go hiking, whatever you can do to better yourself.