My Leo cousin

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Hello Leos,

I have a little Leo cousin who's the apple of my eye. Me and my dad raised her since she was 2..up until she turned 7. Her parents were abroad to make a better life for her and only saw her once an year.

She lives now with them in Italy.

I come to you to ask for some advice. I keep in touch with her a lot on the computer and she's always sad. Her parents fight a lot and I think she misses her family here. She's really sensitive and she absorbs emotions like a sponge. I worry about her growing up in a conflicted atmosphere.

Another thing I noticed with her..she dreams things that come true and has very accurate vibes.

She dreamt her mother getting pregnant, having a boy and the delivery a week before she found at she was pregnant.

This freaks her parents out in a bad way..they think there's smthg wrong with her or that she's cursed.

How can I help her not feel all alone and that there's someone who believes a lot in her.
What can I tell her parents? I cannot discuss astrology with neither yet I think their whole attitude is damaging for her.

This is her chart:

Sun Leo 14.03
Moon Pisces 8.08
Mercury Leo 14.40
Venus Cancer 5.43
Mars Sagittarius 17.11
Jupiter Cancer 5.13
Saturn Gemini 12.42
Uranus Aquarius 23.13 R
Neptune Aquarius 7.13 R
Pluto Sagittarius 12.34 R
Lilith Aquarius 28.18
Asc node Cancer 5.41

Any ideas, observations, insight is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!
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Just my opinion, but I agree with you. I don't believe she feels safe and secure there at all- which is bad as both a child and as a Leo I think, because she's not getting the support and love she needs, and that may foster insecurity in herself. Not to mention she's got Cancer in two places- Venus, which tells us how a person approaches love? , and her Ascendant, which influences a person's personality? :S Idk, but Cancer is notoriously serious about family, which is why this could be even more stressful than normal.

If I were in your shoes, I would send her a photobook/scrapbook of her family where you're at and maybe a heartfelt written letter- a memento of some sort that she can easily hold on to (physically) remind her of the strength she needs to find when she's feeling down. On top of that, keep in touch anyway you can. Don't prod her parents too much- you can sort of hint that they need to invest more time with their child (i.e. when you talk to them ask them what was the last thing they did with their little girl, are they planning something fun for the family or maybe offhand comments like, "[Insert name] is such a precious child! A child like her deserves to be loved, even if my world was falling apart and I was miserable I would try to be the best parent parent to them.") Again, just suggestions- the goal is to subliminally tell them they need to step up in their parenting, without offending them- which it seems they are likely to do from the way you described them.

Hmm...your little cub has a Pisces moon. I read somewhere that Pisces is the most psychic of all the 12 zodiac signs, and her moon is in that position- meaning Pisces governs her emotional self. I think that would have some influence on those visions she's having.

*shrugs* Just my two cents. My words aren't the gospel, but my own thoughts.
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Posted by Leonyne


If I were in your shoes, I would send her a photobook/scrapbook of her family where you're at and maybe a heartfelt written letter- a memento of some sort that she can easily hold on to (physically) remind her of the strength she needs to find when she's feeling down. On top of that, keep in touch anyway you can. Don't prod her parents too much- you can sort of hint that they need to invest more time with their child (i.e. when you talk to them ask them what was the last thing they did with their little girl, are they planning something fun for the family or maybe offhand comments like, "[Insert name] is such a precious child! A child like her deserves to be loved, even if my world was falling apart and I was miserable I would try to be the best parent parent to them.") Again, just suggestions- the goal is to subliminally tell them they need to step up in their parenting, without offending them- which it seems they are likely to do from the way you described them.
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Yes, her father has a short fuse and her mother obeys him completely. It's really hard to talk to them. My dad tries to convince him to stop fighting in front of her at least, as he knows she's really sensitive.

With the new baby, all focus shifted on him, which is only natural, yet I think it makes her feel more lonely as it is.

I already scanned all our photos together and made a beautiful collage and sent it to her. I'll think of something tangible to send her as well.

They don't let her use the PC too much, so our communication is limited. Last time she was online she put her webcam on and started showing me her room and playing with her toys on the bed. I was pretending I was there with her and we were drawing different clothes (she's really talented with drawing).

I'm also concerned about her grades. She started school here, had a good grasp on studying and then she left and I think it's still hard for her with the language barrier. On top of that, both her parents didn't even go to highschool and are not encouraging her with her studies at all.

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Posted by Jynja
Do you have a child, Damnata?

Coming here to say that your cousin's parents (which makes me assume one of them is an aunt/uncle) are not caring for their child the best way they know how is rather "pretentious" of you.

Is the kid fed?
Have they hit her or abused her in any way?
Is she in danger?
Do you need to call the cops?

If not, and the family are caring for their child without harm, then you have no right to question how they raise her. What makes you think you know better than they do? Because you learned or understand astrology?

Have they consulted you on the issue of their daughter's "vibes?"

Why, why, why, are you interfering in their way of directing their child? She's not yours, and your thoughts on raising a child are not guaranteed. Quit filling your cousin's head with hopes that are unwarranted and not your place to give. Let her parents do their duty as her parents without your countering them.

It's not right.



I get your point. I don't want to intervene with their parenting. It's not my right and I am probably overstepping my boundaries.

I am not filling her head with anything. That would not be right for me as a cousin.

To address your points:

She is fed
Her father does get drunk and hit her.
I don't think she is in danger, in the sense someone would need to call the cops.

However, on the topic of parenting. Leaving your child without your guidance for the first 7 years of her life is in no way good parenting. I think what it boils down to on my part..I don't want her to feel allienated to anyone.
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Posted by Jynja


What you are doing to the 7 year old could be more harm than good, because she's at a very impressionable age, feeding her thoughts that she might be alienated will only worsen any kind of bonding that her mother could be initiating with her daughter after not seeing her for 5 years.

There's also the fact that Leo children are impressionable and prone to fits and tantrums simply because their wishes are not forthcoming. Most have to be taught to be discipline and/or thoughtful to other people's plights. Perhaps, her parents' method will help her in the future - you don't know that. Stop suggesting loneliness and alienation to the girl and let the parents raise her.

This is a trivia for you: Did you know many Leos develop depression quickly in their lives from a lack of discipline and knowledge?



I really don't understand your emphasis about me "filling her head with thoughts". I don't discuss her parents with her, I only ask her about her daily activities and what is she up to. The only time I mention her parents is when I ask where they're going on vacation or how's her little brother.

The loneliness and alienation is based on my perception of her and it's not something I project unto her. If anything, despire my opinions on her parents or on their parenting (where I agreed I am probably overstepping my boundaries but I keep this to myself and only discuss it with my dad) I encouraged her to embrace them all the way.

All throughout raising her, whenever she asked about her parents and why they are not coming home, I did my best to explain to her they are working to provide a better future for her.

The discipline in her family is not mine to enforce, nor is the knowledge. It's their child and she should live with them and abide by their rules.

I just see her sad and I'm trying to get a grasp on what she's going through and how I can help her if she needs help.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by Jynja
Do you have a child, Damnata?

Coming here to say that your cousin's parents (which makes me assume one of them is an aunt/uncle) are not caring for their child the best way they know how is rather "pretentious" of you.

Is the kid fed?
Have they hit her or abused her in any way?
Is she in danger?
Do you need to call the cops?

If not, and the family are caring for their child without harm, then you have no right to question how they raise her. What makes you think you know better than they do? Because you learned or understand astrology?

Have they consulted you on the issue of their daughter's "vibes?"

Why, why, why, are you interfering in their way of directing their child? She's not yours, and your thoughts on raising a child are not guaranteed. Quit filling your cousin's head with hopes that are unwarranted and not your place to give. Let her parents do their duty as her parents without your countering them.

It's not right.



I get your point. I don't want to intervene with their parenting. It's not my right and I am probably overstepping my boundaries.

I am not filling her head with anything. That would not be right for me as a cousin.

To address your points:

She is fed
Her father does get drunk and hit her.
I don't think she is in danger, in the sense someone would need to call the cops.

However, on the topic of parenting. Leaving your child without your guidance for the first 7 years of her life is in no way good parenting. I think what it boils down to on my part..I don't want her to feel allienated to anyone.
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How do you expect her to feel happy in spite of that?

And she's 7!

Your parents are your world at that age and as long as that's going on, it's a dark one.
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She's 12 now..I read my replies again and I didn't mention it. She's been in Italy for 5 years.

I don't condone any type of violence but on the other hand Jynja made me think about my right to interfere.

I talked to my dad about it, his brother came to our country for a full month and he addressed this problem with him. My dad is trying to assess how often this happens..from what I heard he doesn't get drunk every night but it does happen and it isn't normal.

I'm trying to think about the extent of my involvement in this and what can and should be done. My attitude so far was keeping in contact with her and encouraging her with her studies...not like a mother figure but someone she could talk to if she feels lonely.

Thank you everyone for replying so far..you've given me a lot of things to ponder about.

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Posted by ARoarLikeThunder
After thinking on this, I see that the problem with lack of good father figures in the world is that the best cure is a good father figure. When one male is failing, you need another one to be like "wtf are you doing, man!?" Because his "do whatever the fuck he tells her" wife isn't gonna stop him.

This is quite tragic.



It's a vicious cycle most of the time. My grandfather is the same way so it was easy for my uncle to pick this up from him.

He does respect my father (he's 13 years older than him) so I'm hoping he will listen to him.
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I get what Jynja is saying.

I operate from the "it takes a village to raise a child mentality" though, in my own family if something is up with one of the children (there is 11 nieces/nephews) we aren't shy or backward about telling the parents what we think is wrong or addressing their parenting regarding an issue that may be happening - it doesn't always immediately go down well but in general we can all talk to each other about the child and talk about the situation and their may be arguments but never offense, or lasting offense, it is very very good to have people who know your child so well be there to turn to. However these are my brothers and sisters, not sure how I would feel about a cousin coming forward, I would hope that, on reflection of the situation, I would be grateful for their input and reflect on their thoughts.

I would also not, regardless of whatever my relationship with the child is, keep quiet if I knew there was physical abuse happening.

Having said all of that, children can be pretty manipulative, especially Venus in Cancer ones 🙂 My daughter has this placement as does my niece, give them the opening to complain about something and they will jump on it, encourage them to get even sadder about it and it's a stage for them. As I say to people my daughter just loves to be sad when presented with a willing ear 🙂 And she especially loves the "I miss such and such" scenarios, she even misses people and gets so sad about it, when she didn't know them in the first place, pretty hilarious to watch sometimes.

Keep on keeping in touch, encourage her and be there for her. Let her address any issues herself to you and don't be the one to bring anything up, it's a door opening to something that may not exist in the first place. If she brings up something herself without prompting then it is something that is troubling her enough to do it and you have to decide what to do with that information going forward, whether that's talking to the parents, your father or getting to the bottom of it with her - but remembering all along that they are her parents.
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it's the pisces moon honey. google it.
this is similar to neptune conjunct ascendant (which i have), making me extra sensitive to emotions around me, absorbing it even if i don't want to. sometimes when a friend who is in despair would talk to me, i would feel so tired afterwards because i have absorbed her vibes. and if i have a personal problem, it is so much more magnified and super hard for me to deal with (emotion wise).

i guess what you can do is to be a source of positivity around her. this would help her shake off or balance any negativity around her. since she's a leo, she would love fun and jokes too so this can be a starting point for you maybe via skype or phone calls or even better schedule a regular communication with her where she can unwind or talk with you. good luck 🙂
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There are several issues involved here from my perspective.

Chartwise, the Venus in Cancer makes this little girl substantially more sensitive than "average". Top that off with a Moon in Pisces, she's got very strong sense of intuition and sensitivity regarding those around her.

No matter what the details are in her home environment, it's really important for you to keep showering her with love, affection, and positive reinforcement. She no doubt needs it alot and will thrive on it. Encourage her to speak to you openly but you, on the other hand, should avoid speaking negatively about her parents no matter what your thoughts are. Focus on her and her emotions only. This is KEY.

I agree with alot of what claaarez88 says also about having fun with her via Skype and phone calls.

Obviously, if you really honestly feel that she's in any danger from her parents, then you should act accordingly by getting professionals involved, but I'd say start here and see how she seems in a couple of months.

Also, don't forget another very important issue that hasn't been raised yet from what I read in the above comments (I may have missed it). Namely, at 12 years of age, she's at the brink of womanhood and more than likely is feeling a lot of the normal female subconscious sadness that occurs with the loss of childhood.

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Posted by celticlioness
I get what Jynja is saying.

I operate from the "it takes a village to raise a child mentality" though, in my own family if something is up with one of the children (there is 11 nieces/nephews) we aren't shy or backward about telling the parents what we think is wrong or addressing their parenting regarding an issue that may be happening - it doesn't always immediately go down well but in general we can all talk to each other about the child and talk about the situation and their may be arguments but never offense, or lasting offense, it is very very good to have people who know your child so well be there to turn to. However these are my brothers and sisters, not sure how I would feel about a cousin coming forward, I would hope that, on reflection of the situation, I would be grateful for their input and reflect on their thoughts.

I would also not, regardless of whatever my relationship with the child is, keep quiet if I knew there was physical abuse happening.

Having said all of that, children can be pretty manipulative, especially Venus in Cancer ones 🙂 My daughter has this placement as does my niece, give them the opening to complain about something and they will jump on it, encourage them to get even sadder about it and it's a stage for them. As I say to people my daughter just loves to be sad when presented with a willing ear 🙂 And she especially loves the "I miss such and such" scenarios, she even misses people and gets so sad about it, when she didn't know them in the first place, pretty hilarious to watch sometimes.

Keep on keeping in touch, encourage her and be there for her. Let her address any issues herself to you and don't be the one to bring anything up, it's a door opening to something that may not exist in the first place. If she brings up something herself without prompting then it is something that is troubling her enough to do it and you have to decide what to do with that information going forward, whether that's talking to the parents, your father or getting to the bottom of it with her - but remembering all along that they are her parents.



Thank you for your input! 🙂

I'm just looking for ways to keep the connection with her and mainly chat about school and her friends there.
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Posted by claaarez88
it's the pisces moon honey. google it.
this is similar to neptune conjunct ascendant (which i have), making me extra sensitive to emotions around me, absorbing it even if i don't want to. sometimes when a friend who is in despair would talk to me, i would feel so tired afterwards because i have absorbed her vibes. and if i have a personal problem, it is so much more magnified and super hard for me to deal with (emotion wise).

i guess what you can do is to be a source of positivity around her. this would help her shake off or balance any negativity around her. since she's a leo, she would love fun and jokes too so this can be a starting point for you maybe via skype or phone calls or even better schedule a regular communication with her where she can unwind or talk with you. good luck 🙂



I have a lot of friends with Pisces moons..they are very artistically inclined and in tune with vibes. One of my Aries friends can literally walk into a room and get drained of energy if she senses people are not feeling ok.

We joke a lot, she's extremely funny and into sports. Last time she came to mu country she wrote on a piece of paper:

"DAMNATA I MISS YOU AND I LOVE YOU

SO

SO

SO

SO

MUCH."

I adore her
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Posted by SpiceNSugar
There are several issues involved here from my perspective.

Chartwise, the Venus in Cancer makes this little girl substantially more sensitive than "average". Top that off with a Moon in Pisces, she's got very strong sense of intuition and sensitivity regarding those around her.

No matter what the details are in her home environment, it's really important for you to keep showering her with love, affection, and positive reinforcement. She no doubt needs it alot and will thrive on it. Encourage her to speak to you openly but you, on the other hand, should avoid speaking negatively about her parents no matter what your thoughts are. Focus on her and her emotions only. This is KEY.

I agree with alot of what claaarez88 says also about having fun with her via Skype and phone calls.

Obviously, if you really honestly feel that she's in any danger from her parents, then you should act accordingly by getting professionals involved, but I'd say start here and see how she seems in a couple of months.

Also, don't forget another very important issue that hasn't been raised yet from what I read in the above comments (I may have missed it). Namely, at 12 years of age, she's at the brink of womanhood and more than likely is feeling a lot of the normal female subconscious sadness that occurs with the loss of childhood.



I tried to avoid conversation about her parents as much as possible.

You bring out a good point about her transition to womanhood. I keep forgetting time goes by so fast...she's still 7 in my eyes. I will be shocked when she will start dating 🙂)

The reason I brought up her chart is her vibes. Her parents contacted my dad because they are concerned with her...they want her to see a shrink. They are very religious people and they're afraid she's not normal for seeing all those things. My dad is into astrology also but he cannot bring this up because they wouldn't understand it.

I usually ask her what's she dreaming about because I don't want her to feel misunderstood or a freak because she's different.
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it's the pisces moon honey. google it.
this is similar to neptune conjunct ascendant (which i have), making me extra sensitive to emotions around me, absorbing it even if i don't want to. sometimes when a friend who is in despair would talk to me, i would feel so tired afterwards because i have absorbed her vibes. and if i have a personal problem, it is so much more magnified and super hard for me to deal with (emotion wise).

i guess what you can do is to be a source of positivity around her. this would help her shake off or balance any negativity around her. since she's a leo, she would love fun and jokes too so this can be a starting point for you maybe via skype or phone calls or even better schedule a regular communication with her where she can unwind or talk with you. good luck 🙂



I have a lot of friends with Pisces moons..they are very artistically inclined and in tune with vibes. One of my Aries friends can literally walk into a room and get drained of energy if she senses people are not feeling ok.

We joke a lot, she's extremely funny and into sports. Last time she came to mu country she wrote on a piece of paper:

"DAMNATA I MISS YOU AND I LOVE YOU

SO

SO

SO

SO

MUCH."

I adore her
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aww how sweet 🙂