Oops. I think I pushed my leo friend to far.. Will

he forgive? Ok wheres all my leo pals, leodiva etc.. Havent been on for a while, but needed a quick fix.
So I tell my leo firend that basically, our friendship has run its course and I need to move on. I said god puts people in our lives at certain times for certain reasons, and once the reason or goal they were there for is achieved, they then leave your life. Which if your a fellow sag or a astro buff, you know its true. So he gets all uptight, like Im blosing him off and ending the
friendship just like that. I told him it was for his own good. I care for him, but he's to overwhelmed with drama & issues right now, and can't give me the time or attention I need or our friendship needs. I love him and it hurts, but better I end it than he
does. Any way Im really just giving space to decide where his feelings are with me, and what he wants to do with them.
I do feel like I hurt him today, us sags and our tongue it aint a pretty picture. So does he forgive, or the anger stays and lingers on??

oh kris, 1st of all I am his friend, and thats why Im giving him space.. I feel me falling for him and vice versa, and it is complicating things, he has alot on his plate. The last thing he needs is to get caught up in a dilema trying to figure out with relationship to pursue with me.. Theres more to it, but you dont need to know that info. So pls dont tell me I dont care about him, prrr its a bit tricky we are close friends, both of us have admitted we care for each other beyond that, but he knows how he is and me, and fears it will ruin a real good friendship. So its in between now. Tx.

Tx prr, he kinda did he was furious this morning.. We usually commute together in the am, and he kinda said well he'll catch a later bus so this way I wont have to see him. He's said this before, but today he was really hurt. If I didnt believe he really valued our friendship, I learned he did today. Its just hard to be around him wanting him, teasing each other and he's holding back. My sag patience is so short, and lord i try but patience I just dont have. I just feel horrible, we'll see. I think he knows how I feel, maybe in time he'll forgive me. Tx as always for being there..

i agree with prring, completely.

he's hurt, and who wouldn't be? the whole not commuting with you, he figures hey, it's just giving her what she wants (and yeah, i'm sure there's a little bitterness behind it too.) with me, if someone says something like that, then i just give them what they want. and there's two things that happen. a.) they miss me to the point when they initiate contact again, and usually by then i'm cooled down and i will give them another chance but i have my guard up; or b.) we barely ever speak to each other again, cause i do have a strong will and no matter how much it hurts at first it always gets easier. very few people are irreplaceable. just being honest.

Hey Cheenah. Wow this is interesting. The closest people to me are Sadges so I understand you guys completely. But I do not think you guys understand us as much. Well, first to answer your question I do feel he is hurt. BTW I TOTALLY agree with wheelhomies analysis, I would respond in either of those ways also.

But anyhoo, I think you went about it the wrong way. For ME personally, just how much a person can endure of the madness of my life shows me just how much they really care about me. I think that is why kris said you dont love him. Don't be upset, that is just about us being fiercely loyal and if you love us you wouldnt walk away no matter WHAT is going on. Now what I think you shouldve done was couthfully tell him how you feel, but still be there, no matter what. Ofcourse you have to look out for yourself and in that case I would have just distanced myself some. Then you could have gotten the chance to see if within his madness he noticed and reached out for you not to pull away. We are fierce when we love whether it is friendship or a romantic relationship I really dont think it matters. For me, I would look at it like if you walked away from me just from THIS because your IMPATIENT their is no way I could take things to a higher level with you because you have no endurance/loyalty to me or rather, dedication to me. Marriage for instance (which i know is a drastic comparison to some, but not a leo btw we are just that intense lol) but marriage is thick and thin, good and bad there is no, walking away just because your impatient. So he must feel he doesnt mean anything to you. Leos dont just walk away unless we feel violated/pushed away/disrespected or something like that. When we love you we love you. And that means hanging in there through your crap good or bad. When it comes to that I feel we have the intensity of a scorpion.

I do not know how he will respond, but you have to see you addressed it like...." You have served your purpose in my life and the purpose is fulfilled time to move on" kinda like he was a space filler and any further contact would be just irrelevant or just meaningless. That is very hurtful to us I think. If I were you I would apologize and ask what you can do to help and express your love. That would help.

Once the damage is done, why look for forgiveness ? Face the music now.

BTW, it may be an astrology stuff but Leos do have BIG hearts. So big that sometimes it gets scary thinking what will happen if I cross the limit.

Cheenah, you're like the crook who wants to get caught.

PROVERBS - ANSWER IS DEF. (NO)

I thank u all for your voices, even though some were a lil off. But I accept your opinion, though it may not make sense or add up to me. For the most part, I got the drift of the message. We did speak today, but I tried to stay quiet and he wondered why.
Yeah, and I don't want to totally abandon him, but sometimes I would like just to have fun times with him, and stop hearing the doom and glooms of life. Sags are optomistic and upbeat, so too much woe is me, gets on my nerves to tell you the truth. At some point, Im like ok wheres the drinks and strippers, or i need to dance. Yeah is not easy, I have my woes to but damn at least he has me to try to keep his spirit ups, keep him laughing & smiling etc.. If nothing else he should appreciate that, and know that sometimes I need a break from the constant repeating of his problems, thats all.

"GA, why do you think scary? leos are typically not vengeful."

pL, the kind of patient behavior which the Leos exhibit with me ( I have absolutely no idea why )makes me very uncomfortable. One of my best buddy is a Leo and honestly I used to bully him a lot and sometimes it bordered on being despotic. But I guess it was always beneath his dignity to respond with the same token.

My boss is a Leo whoz one of the finest human beings Ive ever come across. These days though , I make it a point to not to get carried away by his warmth and snub almost every overture of his. ( reasons are purely professsional and in the personal sphere, we truly gel ).

Now, I have experienced ( mine strictly ) that Leos don't lose their composure easily and display grace even in anger ( sometimes regality can become a yoke, though ). I find this disturbing as it doesn't allow me an opportunity to generate and observe a legible reaction and discover tell-tale signs out of one's behavior ( I can't read hints easily ). Am sure even this brand of stoicism comes with a shelf-life but can't really determine the Leo flash-point, which in my opininon, is ominous.

My grudges against Leos - being slightly egalitarian in my views, I have lesser faith in monarchy. And I have seen my Leo friends manipulating and ruling over men who can't defend Or choose to keep their interests sub-servient. Perhaps, in my eyes itz unethical, and a Leo would always believe from inside that he/she has this right to exercise royalty in return of the magnanimity shown. I am absolutely fine with this pragmatic arrangement since I have actually seen that people are delighted and comfortably assured in the company of a Leo.

Well I think today was the final cut, we met up again on our commute. I stayed quiet, then he nudges me cause Im not paying him attention. Damn if i do or i dont.. what the f... Any way he starts on the usual badgering of problems with his home life, etc.. So i just mentioned wow, u complain u have a mate who doesnt do things with you etc, here I offer you to do so many things as we are good friends, and you turn me down. Oh boy next he stated it seems we are clashing alot lately, maybe we need a break of commuting together, oh i did say well maybe if he felt happier in his life, he would be a better friend.. that sent sparks.. i only meant it in the sense, he'll go out and do things etc.. he siad he appreciates all i ve done to try to keep his spirits up etc, and knows i care but i dont understand his position, and i dont appreciate the bits of friendship he gives me..
so of course i tell him to stop putting words in my mouth, that no matter what i say he twists it , and he did agree im usually a happy person, and he knows with his mood swings he doesnt feel its right to then change my mood to a bad one like his, yeah yeah he'll still call me. I simply dont care now, we both agreed it has nuthin to do about the sex as w never went there. it was about me spending time with someone i care about and enjoy, and trying to be there to brighten his life. He doesnt want that, so it is what is. I see no point in him calling me if and when he does, and I will most likey not answer or return the call.
Its just sad even another commuter who jokes with us saw me in tears, and said you are so great together having a ball.
She believes he will be back, and that if anything she saw he liked me more than a friend. Right now, im gonna have loads of cocktails and forget him.. And this time its sag decision, once we cut you off for real we cant and wont look back, right sags..
Men, men, men.. then they wonder why women change their life style s...

cheenah your not acting like a friend, friends don't behave this way, I question your intent. Friends are their no matter what and accept that person no matter what, you have some manipulating undertones going on, their no reason not to be friends with a guy that is living his life the way he chooses to live it, your supposed to be a support system even when he deosn't give you time, no disrespect but if you minded your own business and had a full life it wouldn't matter much about his moods or his personal situations, you would simply be his friend and be their for him.

What do you really want from him?

I dunno about anyone else but even if I'm having feelings for a person, friendship would be much more important than my own emotional need to be more, if he's my friend thats what he will be until we both decide otherwise, until then his life is hands off, meaning what goes on in his life is his business be it I agree with whats happening in his life or not. Why be so fixed on a guy that has issues? He needs support not another problem, if he was emotionally clear and available, I'm sure he would love to be more but I think leo's revere friendship above all else, he needs a friend not another tumultous love affair.

some of you kill me with yr replies, now its i dont have a life, and im not minding my business. Im not interviewing hi, he's the one drilling his personal problems in my ear, like i dont have some of my own. Come on, i dont dwell on my problems with him, he never comes up for air to let me get a word in, even if i wanted to discuss my own. I am a friend, a good one at that and I dont need to rely on yr opinion thank god for that, because you disagree. If anything im the one with the life, and as a caring friend i was trying to make him part of it and enjoy some good people and times amongst his misery.
I have no undertones,, hidden agendas or any other CIA operation going on. Excuse me as I laugh, how far its blown out of the arena i find funny. The minding my buisness, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. I will def. have a good haha and toast on that one tonight. Gee!

Well proverbs, that is too cute.. I have a strategy now. WOW! By the way, I'm faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from being weak in bed. I like yr concept though, its refreshing compared to some..

no cheenah we aren't blowing it out proportion, go back and read what you wrote, your saying one thing but your tone sounds beyond just friendship and if he's your friend and just your friend, then stop giving the guy all this emotional drama, be his friend, accept him for who he's choosing to be right now, he should be able to sulk, be moody, be whatever he needs to be and as a friend you would be right their to assist and listen...thats what friends do, if him talking in your ear about his problems bothers you then you have the responsibility to tell him to stop it, cutting him off isn't what friends do to people they call friend, you seem like you have FEELINGS more than jus friendship towards this man or their would be no reason for you cut the relationship. If it's just friendship then stand by him as a friend and stop all the drama with cutting him, stand strong and be his friend.

sounds like your a manipulator cheenah, I tend to agree with proverbs, your gaming and it's not going your way so your bailing out.

tikki read msg of 1:21 today..

LOL@LK

tell it like it "TI" is

Well miss kitten wrong, if theres anything emotional its that our friendship is deep but because of his unhappiness at home it limits him to want to enjoy life.
Im glad ur girl tikki applauded u, I would expect nothing less. At the end of the day I know what my situation is and your taunt comments are mere entertainment.
I conclude and thank those who gave honest and tactful advice without being insulting and judgemental, when they truly dont know or see the whole picture.
I know you take a chance when you post something your going to get real people who care,and give feelings from the soul. Then you have the others who just are miserable, woke up on the wrong side of LIFE.. and have nothing positive to say, or at least if you disagree, do it like a lady not like a _________.
We are tobe honest with our statements and opinions, but do so with some class.
Cause then \you end up lookin like the _____. We are here to chat and help each other out nasty comments and remarks, don't get get the job done.
But like I sais some folks just our sour, no matter how much sugar you pour on them. With that I say "Happy Saturday & God bless!

Oh proverbs you make me laugh, your too nice & funny..It's been a blast, gotta run Im to busy chasing other peoples men as per kittykat, so I can't chat you can always pm me, you can disagree with me anytime, at least your friendly and clever while doing it.

Oh cheenah LK and I hardly agree on anything lol! "My Girl" could hardly describe her and I....listen, sorry for beating you up, only you know what's best for you, I made an observation, I didn't mean any harm..good luck on whatever you choose to do with your leo friend.