Saw LEO last night

We watched a movie but things got a little hot and heavy...I couldn't help it, those piercing blue eyes and smile.

We did not have sex, but I did s

We watched a movie but things got a little hot and heavy...I couldn't help it, those piercing blue eyes and smile.

We did not have sex, but I did see his member...was not big at all, maybe average to say the least. A little dissapointed as I am a size queen...so hoping and praying when the momment comes...its all good.

What makes up for it is his PASSION...wow....he is incredible...I have never felt so sexy in my life. The way he hold my hand while watching a movies, the sexy things he says to me as he looks at me ("You are so beautiful"..."You smell so good"). Unfortunately, he had to leave early last night.

I baked my mom some chocolate chip cookies (LEOS Favorite Food in the world) for moms day and made a double batch for him...do I get points for that one?

I am in LALA land with my Leo right now. Once again, he goes out of town from Wed-Monday...wow, I thought I traveled a lot...this is going to be tough.

haha sophie your funny

Well, I just had to mention the "member" issue because there was a post dedicated to that here.

Seriously though....there is so much more to him. He is sweet, kind, "real"...donates his time to charity events...he is funny which is a plus. So really want to do things right with him. Especially since he just out of a 4 yr. relationship in Feb.

He called me when he got home Sunday night (as we have serious flooding here and I was worried about him driving)...but I must have fallin alseep.

Yesterday was the first day he has not called me or TM's me and he is leaving for AZ tomorrow....so boo hoo...😢

HAHAHAHA!!! How does he know that? I'm the one who wants to wait to be intimate. :-)


Its strange because I am used to hearing from him every day. So now the games begin huh? Very interesting indeed.....

"The woman gets used to this attention and like a typical man, the guy will step away for a bit and the woman freaks out."

This is so true. I've had the same thing done to me but the guy isn't a Leo. He would call me constantly every day for a few months. I got used to it and then he pulled back to just reappear again. I have no idea what is going. I did talk to him on Friday night and asked him if there is something wrong which he said there was absolutely nothing wrong. It doesn't matter though as I go on with my life.

Hi Leowithcap...

It amazing how last week when I was busy as hell (had plans/dates every night)...he called me like clockwork every night and if I didn't answer phone, he would NOT leave a message.

Now I havn't heard from him all day yesterday nor today....like he dissappeared.

I felt bad I did not answer his call on Sunday night when he got home from my house, so I then TM'd him to make sure he was OK.

Now the balls in his court...and from what I remember he leaves for AZ tomorrow until Monday. Since he has only gone one day without calling me (thats when he was in Toronto Saturday night) I would assume I may get a phone call late tonight. Maybe not.

Oh well, let the games begin....I'm keeping myself busy this week as we have some major damage going on...

Mystical...
Such a typical scenario...huh?
Uggh...I guess we just keep busy and move on...
Seems to happen after a great night together...isnt that ironic?

Yes, I fully agree with you. It's really bizarre to say the least. The guy in my case called me no-stop for a few months. In the beginning it was very weird because I wasn't expecting to him from him every day. Then it became regular and unfortunately I got use to it. now he plays his hot and cold games with he'll call soon. I don't wait by the phone though. He's away at sea now so there can be something to it. Anyway, I go on with life.

LeoWithCapAndAnnoyed:

I'm very impressed with your memory. Yes, I'm still involved with the Virgo guy. Yes, it is a tough sign. He and I are friends but I have a feeling he wants more but he keeps his feelings hidden and I don't push him either.

Oh Mystical...Virgo? Oh Gosh...been down that road! I couldn't take it anymore.

Leowith...thats good information but maybe things just went a tad too far the other night and now he thinks differently? No sex but hot and heavy. The good news is he did leave the messgae Sunday night saying he had a "great time as usual" and he'll "talk to me tomorrow" (yesterday)....umm...no word.

Of course my analitical Scorpian nature is making me sift through every thing that happened that night.

LeowithCap has an unbeleivable memory! Thats why you are referred all the time on this board. Someone asked me the other day that I shoudl cosult with you and I said "She has already helped"

Another question I have...would a male Leo be intimidated by a girl who makes more money than him? Is it a pride thing? Although he kept saying "What a beautiful house you have" (he lives in a tiny apartment)...I could tell he was taken back a bit...I'm hoping thats not an issue....

Mystical...
Sounds to me since he is overseas that may be an issue why he hasnt called.
Also, the typical flight sydrome of the Virgo. Come on Strong than dissappear...once you forget about htem, they call u all over and the cycle continues. You are doing the right hting going on w/ your life...are you dating other guys?

Sophie68,

He isn't overseas at all. I live in Europe but I'm an American. He's on the coast of the country where I live. Yes, I've grown used to the flight syndrome with the calling and then not hearing from him for a while. What I do to him then is if I haven't heard from him in a while, I surprise him and call him when he least expects it and he doesn't have any idea of what to say. A friend told me that Virgos have to plan what they are going to talk about. It's like they have to have manus ready before they call. I've noticed this because when he calls me he knows exactly what he's going to say (certain things he says it seems like he wants to get a reaction out of me like how popular he is among girls, I never react though). Therefore I go on with my life. No, I'm not dating anyone now. I have so much going on since I'm a fulltime college student and work parttime on the side.

LeoWithCapAndAnnoyed:
"I've seen the passive approach work best on the Virgo man. Hmmm..."

Could you explain?

I'm very independent and took it as it came. I actually acted most of the time nonchalent because I didn't want to act over eager when he called. If I'm going to be honest I loved it when he called because he has such a voice. A voice I could listen to for hours. Now when I hear from him I don't act as nonchalent.

Do you have knowledge regarding Virgos? I'm basically clueless as he's my first Virgo encounter.

LeoWithCapAndAnnoyed:
"It's crazy how much of a ladies man the Virgo male tends to be."

I know what you mean. He told me two weeks ago how popular he is. Then when I talked to him last Friday he wasn't popular at all. Maybe when he told me he was so popular two weeks ago it had to do with he was drunk. I have no idea. He tries to get reactions at of me though which I don't give him.

Mystical...
Go over to the Virgo board...so much insight about Leos...your seem slike a typical one. I hardly ever called my ex-Virgo...he called only for a booty call and was seeing other woman. When I confronted him, I never saw him again. They are true players and takes a long time to bag a Virgo. I say let him call and wonder what your up to by sending into VM. This is a man who was living with a woman who had 2 children. Being an ex-step-parent myself, I know how tough that can be and is very impressive to take on that kind of resposibility. I admire that.

LeowithCap~ This man is a 39 year old successful, well respected man...I think very mature. He'll be 40 in July. He hasn't said a thing about this issue (and I don;t flaunt anything) but I could tell he was a) impressed b) motified.

OR...its because things got hot and heavy, things happened (NO SEX) and now he sees me differently. I was hoping this was not goign to happen...ugh...romantic music and wine..bad mix

That last sentence re: "This is a man who was living with a woman who had 2 children. Being an ex-step-parent myself, I know how tough that can be and is very impressive to take on that kind of resposibility. I admire that."

should have been below to my response to Leowithcap...

Sophie68
"I say let him call and wonder what your up to by sending into VM."

What is a VM? Could you explain?

I'm not a Leo if you might think that at all. In fact I'm an Aquarian and very curious about everything. Yes, I do let him wonder what is going on about me but I don't want him to completely "forget" about me either. Therefore if it goes too long I don't understand what he's doing. I'm not even sure of his agenda either. The situation is very complicated due to the circumstances.

LWCAA:
Thank you very much for your enlightning examples. I've learnt a lot getting to know this Virgo guy. I'm not the same person at all. I've been emotionally drained and on a roller coaster like none other. Been sad and mad and every emotion possible. Now this past weekend I finally found peace within myself to let it all go and see what happens. I shouldn't have gotten so caught up with him in the first place. Now I'm letting the chips fall where they fall. I have no idea what is going to happen. He has a lot of issues to deal with. I am the one who can straighten him out but he has to realize that first.

Hi Leowith...
I sent you an email...

Mystical...you have to really play hrd to get with guy and also come right out and ask him what the issue is. I found out that Virgos are honest when asked a direct question. My Virgo drained the life out of me....exhausting! But thanks to Virgo, he introduced me to an old friend who then introduced me to current Leo...so I guess I can thank him. Don;t be so easy to speak to him...dont be available to him...he expects that now.

VM=Voicemail

Sophie68,

You are absolutely right that Virgo guy expects to speak to me whenever he feels like it. I will have to be harder to reach that's for sure. There are going to be some changes I can tell you. I just have to catch him off guard first so he doesn't know what is going on.

Work it girl...these Virgos are tough tough tough....too much for me to handle. Mine was so unpredictable and aloof. Would go for weeks not calling, etc. Enough was enough.

On my Leo end...absolutely no word from him. Very strange...

Ohh...scratch that...

its 8:00 am here and Leo just text message me "The cookies were a big hit"...I just replied "good!" I guess he brought the cookies to the office and decides to thank me now on TM after no word for 2 days? Hmmmm

WTF?

Yeah, men are very strange. Must be he suddenly remembered he hadn't called you and figured the best way was to send you a TM to butter you up regarding the cookies. He doesn't what you to think he's forgotten you.

Virgos are really tough. Never had a Virgo before so it's a real challenge. I'm going to have to work it out that's true. The problem right now is he and I are friends although for some strange reason he has grown on me that I like him. He likes me also in his own strange way but he keeps his feelings well hidden and I don't push him either.

sophie,

Two days isn't so bad. You two just started dating, right? Looks like he found an excuse to call you (cookies)

We did just started dating, non stop calls and TM's for a week and a half, then for 2 days nothing.

I replied to his TM again this morning saying

"Arent U going to AZ today? Have fun! Its beautiful there"

Leo Replied "Thanks, I don't think it will rain like it has here"

OK...thats it for replies....I am not going to reply anymore to TM's. He can call me if he wants to talk. He's gone till Monday and I'll let him wonder....

Sounds like a good plan to let him wonder. I have to stay strong in my own situation. Things have to change I can tell you. Like when Virgo has called me and I'm not available I have sent him a text message saying I saw he called. 9 times out of 10 he'd call me back within a few minutes. Now when he calls I don't send him a text, I just call him and ask him to call me back which he does. It's so surreal to say the least. I never call guys ever but this situation is different. Last time I talked to Virgo was Friday night and he was tired since he's at sea. Have no idea when I'm going to hear from him again and so be it. I go on with my life.

Mystical,
Yes, the ignoring will begin.

Well, I think you ought to turn things around with Virgo. DO NOT call him when you see he has called. DO NOT send ANY texts. DO NOT initiate anything...let some time go by.

Do the COMPLETE ignore for a bit and when he finally asks say you have bee "very busy"

Sophie68,

Yes, I'm going to be doing that. It will be hard though. He and I are good friends and I don't want him to think I've turned my back on him at all. He's a very insecure Virgo. He doesn't have many close friends at all. Maybe it has to do with him being picky. I don't know. I've read Virgos don't make many close friends at all. Here in Norway where I live, today is independence day. Yesterday, I sent him a text message wishing him a happy independence day (like friends do). He never responded at all which I found very rude. It doesn't matter he is at sea or what, I still feel he should respond.

I guess to be with a Virgo man, it seems that you have to deal with all their crap until they're ready to settle down.

Amen to that!

They do it all on their own time.

They also seem to respect a woman who can take them or leave them. When they sense you can leave them, they want to take you. When you want them, they want to leave you.

Tough sign. Tough balance.

Yeah, I'm experiencing that. I've let it all go though because he has issues to deal with on his own time not mine.

Well, then I am happy I am an independant busy woman. Although I do become attached to those I like, my life is very busy. I am glad I responded to LEO's emial in an aloof manner and then didn't respond to his reply.

THATS why LEO called me every night when I was out...hmmm.....I see that coming once again...

Sophie68,

Sorry to read you haven't heard from Leo guy yet. It's still morning so he could be calling you during the day since he was coming home again today, Monday. You never know. If it makes you feel better I haven't heard from Virgo guy either because he's at sea. He told me he wouldn't let it go too long before I heard from him. It's going on a little while now though. It's okay. I just hope he isn't ignoring me.

Hi Mystical...
Yes, this waiting sux the big one. I just dont know if I should answer if he does call. I'm sure he will text message (GOD I hate that!) me first.

I hope you hear from your Virgo. You will. I am hoping u hear from him today and hopefully I'll hear today as well. Keep me posted.

Funny, I saw my ex-Virgo (MAJOR PLAYER) last night...I completely ignored him...god he makes me sick.

*Shark attack continues

"Whoaaa!!!+% ^% +% Whoaa!!!"

*Poeople in shock and panic

"Whoaaa!!^% +% Whoaaa!!"

*Leo people run in fear

Huh?

Sophie68,

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do think I'll hear from the Virgo guy one day. He's told me he always comes back which I have never understood that logic. Maybe it's a Virgo thing to suddenly creep up just when you least expect it.

You should absolutely take Leo's call when he calls you. He more than likely sends you a text first just to see if you are available and then will more than likely call you. Never refuse his call. You don't know if he's a good catch (although you have said he is) if you don't talk with him. I dislike the waiting but I refuse to do a thing. I've done my part with trying to stay in contact with Virgo guy. He's at sea so he's very busy. The last time I talked to him he was so tired but he wanted to talk with me which was positive.

Yeah, I would also ignore that Virgo guy in your case. He was very immature.

Mystical...
Totally a Virgo thing...been there...done that. If it was more than just physical (like me and my EX-Virgo was) then he will be back.

With my Leo....I just don't know if its typical for a guy to call every day the first week then almost none the second. I'm not good at this dating thing...well, at least with a guy I like which has been a long time. Granted, he was away on business, how hard is it to TM since he does it so often anyways? We'll see what happens...

Virgos like hard to get woman....so do not intitiate anymore contact....let him come to you....

Sophie68,

Yeah, I've seen Virgos like hard to get woman. I was like that for months and then I wanted to be fair. Then something happened along the way to which things changed.

You know the Virgo guy in my case called me every day for 2 months and then he suddenly backed off which I didn't understand as we hadn't even argued. I found out a few weeks ago I annoy him because I'm too positive. What? Since when is being positive a bad thing. Then I didn't hear from him for a week. All of sudden he called me at 1 AM to tell me how popular he is with girls to which I told him was great for him. He wanted a reaction from me which he didn't get. Then he told me he'd call me when he had time which is something he has never said before. My mind started wondering why did he say that. Therefore I made a friendly call a week later to check up on him. Oh, he wasn't popular he tells me. He told me he doesn't have a chance with anyone. Little does he know a month ago I would have told him he had a chance with me. Now I haven't heard from him since he told me he'd take contact when he could. I asked him not to let it go too long before he contacted me which he promised he wouldn't. Now in Virgo language I wonder what is "not too long". Anyway, I'm not doing a thing.

Typical Virgo behavio. Comeon full force then put the braked on for no reason. First...he is so damn insecure (Most Virgos are) that he needs you to stroke him...and he didn't get that from you. Virgos are also looking for "perfection" so maybe your happiness was an issue for him because Virgo men tend to be always looking for negative crap....glass is always half empty.

Once again, his insecurities...he called you at one to get his ego stroked and it didn't work.

"Not too long" in Virgo language is " Maybe next month or 6 months or never" heard that one before and never heard from the guy since.

Good luck girl...Virgos are tough

Oh DY....you are SUCH the EXCEPTION HUNNY!!!!

Love you! How is your Scorp girl by the way?

So let me correct myself.....young or immature Virgos tend to be the way I state above...in my own experience and IMHO

Doesn't look promising at all this situation.
" Maybe next month or 6 months or never". I would hope I do hear from him again but with the whole situation has been an experience I've never had before and totally surreal.

Yeah, he is insecure with himself. Therefore I try to show him nothing is as black as he thinks it is. This is also why I have tried my best to show him I am not disappearing and that he can trust me as he has trust issues since other girls have hurt him in the past. I want to show him I'm not like them. I've never met anyone like him before who doubts themselves as much as he does. He tells me he'll never fall in love, get married etc. I personally think he's going through a rough patch in his life right now and he has to deal with it on his own. I just want him to know I'm there for him but it's very difficult.

Boy, I've realized Virgos are tough. It's good though because I've learned a whole lot and that is really positive. This Virgo guy has even told me he isn't the typical Virgo. Everything I've read about Virgos he fits his star sign so well it's scary.

I think you need ot let him go for now...I'm sure he will be back in due time. But being there for ahim at a drop of a dime (when he calls, etc) to try and build his trust is not building trust, its making it "easy for him".

Go out and enjoy yourself...put Virgo on the back burner for while....you deserve better :-)

Yeah, I totally agree with you. This is why I have given up on the whole situation. It's crazy. Being an Aquarian we set friendship very highly and dislike seeing friends in pain. Therefore I have tried to do my best but I do have a limit. My limit has reached the top now.

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!
YOU SERIOUS DY—
SOOOOOO happy for you!!!!
I knew it! Hugs and kisses!!! yeah!!!!!!