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stay or back away? (scorp F 29, leo M 28)
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and he has to break things off with her that's why even if he meets a girl (not me) whom he likes, he doesn't make a move, afraid to offend the ex's feeling. i told him over and over again, he's not responsible for what the girl feels for him. there are just instances when the other person doens't feel or share the intensity of your feelings towards them.
i must admit, the longer we stay together, the more im impressed with him and the more im thinking how would it feel to be in a relationship with this guy? we sleep together everyday but nothing ever happens except for that first night i stayed in his place working on our project. (which is hard to believe since most guys can't keep their hands off me if they were given the same amount of together in one bed as often as the leo and i have) .
we sometimes kid around about seducing one another when in neutral ground like in the workplace or through text and e-mail but it never materialize when we're alone. we're like an old married couple who's been together for years when we're hanging at his house. im comfortable with what we have and won't make the first move unless im sure that he, somehow shares the same feeling s i have. we both have venus in virgo by the way and i wouldn't ask this question if idont feel intensely about it. (me wanting him so bad could be suffocating at times that i need to step back.)i started meeting other friends on weekends so i'll hava an excuse not to see him. is it ok to tell him how i feel or just go with the flow and let things unfold in their own time? i know it's clear he's emotionally unavailable (and im starting to go down the path the ex-aries girl has chosen) half of me wants to stay , pretend friendship is all im after when half of me wants to stop being a friend knowing i want him half of the time.
on a side note, i would also feel guilty if the ex knew the real deal between us or the amount of time we spend together. she's a nice and sweet girl who because of young age wanted too much too fast (can't really blame her after basking in the warmth of being near our leo)
honest opinion will be great and thanks in advance.
i must admit, the longer we stay together, the more im impressed with him and the more im thinking how would it feel to be in a relationship with this guy? we sleep together everyday but nothing ever happens except for that first night i stayed in his place working on our project. (which is hard to believe since most guys can't keep their hands off me if they were given the same amount of together in one bed as often as the leo and i have) .
we sometimes kid around about seducing one another when in neutral ground like in the workplace or through text and e-mail but it never materialize when we're alone. we're like an old married couple who's been together for years when we're hanging at his house. im comfortable with what we have and won't make the first move unless im sure that he, somehow shares the same feeling s i have. we both have venus in virgo by the way and i wouldn't ask this question if idont feel intensely about it. (me wanting him so bad could be suffocating at times that i need to step back.)i started meeting other friends on weekends so i'll hava an excuse not to see him. is it ok to tell him how i feel or just go with the flow and let things unfold in their own time? i know it's clear he's emotionally unavailable (and im starting to go down the path the ex-aries girl has chosen) half of me wants to stay , pretend friendship is all im after when half of me wants to stop being a friend knowing i want him half of the time.
on a side note, i would also feel guilty if the ex knew the real deal between us or the amount of time we spend together. she's a nice and sweet girl who because of young age wanted too much too fast (can't really blame her after basking in the warmth of being near our leo)
honest opinion will be great and thanks in advance.
sorry bout the very long post...don't know how to tell it without skipping on the important parts. *wink
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Posted by hiplove79
Leos can be very hard to figure out. Sometimes it appears we are attracted to people...when we are not. And sometimes it appears we are not attracted to people...when we are.
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thanks hiplove79
we do major flirting (thru text, chat and e-mail) and if flirting back is an indication that he likes me, then i got my answer. he even starts it most of the time but he keeps giving me mixed signals. it gets so frustrating when nothing happens when we're alone. you know how it feels when there's so much sexual tension between the two of you but you're both pretending it's not there? desire in his eyes is hard to miss but we're both holding back, probably afraid we won't be able to go back to the comfort of just being friends if we choose to cross that line again.
i don't have any qualms in turning the seduction mode on but it's so hard when it's towards someone you really like. i for one won't start flirting if we're alone coz im afraid he might back away or like you say act uncomfortable so im waiting for him to step up and make the first move and i have been waiting eversince...
there are days when im so sure he's into me but on other days i feel like my radar's broken.
Posted by hiplove79
May I ask why are you worried about hurting his ex feelings?
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i can see myself on the ex when i was younger. that time when you love without waiting for something in return, hanging, waiting for the other person to change their mind about you. believing your love alone would be enough for the both of you. i can sense that aura coming from the girl. she knows me and would like to meet me in person (which i keep putting off BTW) you know how scorpio's can be so focused at getting what they want, determined to control the situation so it goes our way? i learned not to manipulate things anymore (especially in relationships) and i hate to see this girl learn the lesson the hard way when it could be avoided. if you could see these two, they act like they're still in a relationship, but knowing the leo man's heart's not in it anymore breaks my heart a little. the aries ex subtly keeps pushing to get what she can (time, attention) from our leo guy not knowing it's pushing him farther away from him. can't really blame her for acting that way, after i've seen how it
is to be near him almost every single day. it's intoxicating...
that's exactly what im trying to do right now. whenever i feel like taking control and hurrying things up, i always come back to these leo threads, afraid i might do something i would regret later. writing about us also gave me the chance to look at it in a different perspective, instead of having a constant war with my mind. not knowing if he's feeling the same way is killing me. all my friends are convinced as long as he's not saying anything, there's no US. and we can't really be friends since we had sex that first night we were together. the two of us becoming friends came later. can i truly be a friend to him when i want him half of the time?
Posted by hiplove79
So I would proceed with caution.
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that's exactly what im trying to do right now. whenever i feel like taking control and hurrying things up, i always come back to these leo threads, afraid i might do something i would regret later. writing about us also gave me the chance to look at it in a different perspective, instead of having a constant war with my mind. not knowing if he's feeling the same way is killing me. all my friends are convinced as long as he's not saying anything, there's no US. and we can't really be friends since we had sex that first night we were together. the two of us becoming friends came later. can i truly be a friend to him when i want him half of the time?
"i must admit, the longer we stay together, the more im impressed with him and the more im thinking how would it feel to be in a relationship with this guy? we sleep together everyday but nothing ever happens except for that first night i stayed in his place working on our project. (which is hard to believe since most guys can't keep their hands off me if they were given the same amount of together in one bed as often as the leo and i have)"
That's how they all get caught, he slowly seduces a woman without her even realizing it, then she's thinking wow wonder what it would feel like to be with him, you aren't any different than the aries girl, she fell for it and you are falling for it too.
This guy is a seducer (quality pick up artist) for the record I'm not against PUA's but what I don't care for is how hurt the women are after she's been caught by his charm and attention and he of course says I don't want a commitment leaving her behind to sort out her own feelings (that's the sad part) and that's what will happen to you too if you don't leave this guy alone, he seduces women (like you) and he dumps them, be careful, leo males (not all of course) tend to have histrionic behavior and this guy ooozes histrionic seducer type behavior, it's all a game for him, I bet there is a trail of broken hearts behind him, the aries isn't the only one waiting, he actually got you waiting too but he's not done with you yet so he sticks around to ensure your REALLY in love before he dumps you for another, there are others lurking in the background waiting to be seduced, already seduced, broken hearted and holding on to hope he'll change his mind, YOU'LL BE NEXT IF YOU DON'T BACK UP AND SEE HIS GAME QUICKLY.
Just a warning, you are playing with fire, if you for one second think you are the exception, THINK AGAIN, he's done his game enough that he's an expert at seduction, that's why it feels so good to be with him, that's why he's WAITING to capture your heart because waiting is fun, then he's snagged you, your in love and he's not in love, he dumps you just like he dumped the aries girl, suddenly you're not relevant anymore, just remember PAST BEHAVIOR IS A PRECLUDE TO FUTURE BEHAVIOR, if he did it to her, he'll do it to you too.
I don't hate men like him but sometimes they just need a good kick in the ass and balls, these are lives they are playing with.
You don't have to turn on seduction mode, you are already being seduced and your most likely falling i
That's how they all get caught, he slowly seduces a woman without her even realizing it, then she's thinking wow wonder what it would feel like to be with him, you aren't any different than the aries girl, she fell for it and you are falling for it too.
This guy is a seducer (quality pick up artist) for the record I'm not against PUA's but what I don't care for is how hurt the women are after she's been caught by his charm and attention and he of course says I don't want a commitment leaving her behind to sort out her own feelings (that's the sad part) and that's what will happen to you too if you don't leave this guy alone, he seduces women (like you) and he dumps them, be careful, leo males (not all of course) tend to have histrionic behavior and this guy ooozes histrionic seducer type behavior, it's all a game for him, I bet there is a trail of broken hearts behind him, the aries isn't the only one waiting, he actually got you waiting too but he's not done with you yet so he sticks around to ensure your REALLY in love before he dumps you for another, there are others lurking in the background waiting to be seduced, already seduced, broken hearted and holding on to hope he'll change his mind, YOU'LL BE NEXT IF YOU DON'T BACK UP AND SEE HIS GAME QUICKLY.
Just a warning, you are playing with fire, if you for one second think you are the exception, THINK AGAIN, he's done his game enough that he's an expert at seduction, that's why it feels so good to be with him, that's why he's WAITING to capture your heart because waiting is fun, then he's snagged you, your in love and he's not in love, he dumps you just like he dumped the aries girl, suddenly you're not relevant anymore, just remember PAST BEHAVIOR IS A PRECLUDE TO FUTURE BEHAVIOR, if he did it to her, he'll do it to you too.
I don't hate men like him but sometimes they just need a good kick in the ass and balls, these are lives they are playing with.
You don't have to turn on seduction mode, you are already being seduced and your most likely falling i
You don't have to turn on seduction mode, you are already being seduced and your most likely falling in love through the process, I bet you think he's your perfect fit, everything just fits and melds right...Right? Yeah right, wake up
Have fun but don't be a fool like the aries girl, she's now sitting around alone with a broken heart miserable, you'll be next if you don't stop yourself from falling for his "seductive game techniques"
Be careful...I know his game inside and out, I've dated a few seducers many moons ago, I actually had a chance to shadow a popular pick up artist and learned so much through that process, basically they (PUA'S) all have the same modus operandi, same exact behavior with a few deviations but they all do the same pathological behavior/techniques and women end up feeling jilted or on hold, in love by themselves.
Better flip it on him or find a new man to play with, this guy isn't going to commit to anyone, that's not on his agenda and he said that himself.
Have fun but don't be a fool like the aries girl, she's now sitting around alone with a broken heart miserable, you'll be next if you don't stop yourself from falling for his "seductive game techniques"
Be careful...I know his game inside and out, I've dated a few seducers many moons ago, I actually had a chance to shadow a popular pick up artist and learned so much through that process, basically they (PUA'S) all have the same modus operandi, same exact behavior with a few deviations but they all do the same pathological behavior/techniques and women end up feeling jilted or on hold, in love by themselves.
Better flip it on him or find a new man to play with, this guy isn't going to commit to anyone, that's not on his agenda and he said that himself.
Sedcutive techniques that make women fall in love, it's his fault the Aries is in love, had he not led her on she would not be so in love with him. A few behaviors that can make a woman fall in love
Being the perfect gentlemen..."we were drinking while working and he was a perfect gentleman the whole evening"
Making a woman feel super comfortable, no awkward feelings, just complete ease and comfort.... "i was so at ease and comfortable that night" "there was no awkwardness even if that was the first time we've been together and alone at his house."
Excellent communication, communicating with him is like talking to a good girl friend, he just seems so in tune with him feminine side and can talk for hours (this is LEARNED BEHAVIOR)" communication was great, never felt that close even with my ex of 6 years (aries guy)."
"we slept cuddled on his bed and i awoke with kisses and we had sex in the wee hours of the morning." cuddling creates a very strong bond, opens up your nurturing maternal instincts and can sometimes be more important than sex for women, cuddling creates a strong emotional and hormonal bond that if done frequently, will instil love and calm into your relationship. hormone called Oxytocin, which is produced by touch, promotes a chemical bond between you and your partner and is dubbed the —love hormone.?? This chemical, which was previously only associated with childbirth to bond mother and baby, increases dramatically when we hug and hold hands. The wonder-hormone, Oxytocin, supposedly helps you face tough obstacles in your life. As well as instilling calm into your body, it also freezes the bodies —panic?? and —flight or fright?? reflex.
Which means you are hormonally BONDING with this man who is not your man, this can create deep emotional mental conflict for a woman. You are FORMING the same bond the Aries girl formed through him behaving this way.
Being the perfect gentlemen..."we were drinking while working and he was a perfect gentleman the whole evening"
Making a woman feel super comfortable, no awkward feelings, just complete ease and comfort.... "i was so at ease and comfortable that night" "there was no awkwardness even if that was the first time we've been together and alone at his house."
Excellent communication, communicating with him is like talking to a good girl friend, he just seems so in tune with him feminine side and can talk for hours (this is LEARNED BEHAVIOR)" communication was great, never felt that close even with my ex of 6 years (aries guy)."
"we slept cuddled on his bed and i awoke with kisses and we had sex in the wee hours of the morning." cuddling creates a very strong bond, opens up your nurturing maternal instincts and can sometimes be more important than sex for women, cuddling creates a strong emotional and hormonal bond that if done frequently, will instil love and calm into your relationship. hormone called Oxytocin, which is produced by touch, promotes a chemical bond between you and your partner and is dubbed the —love hormone.?? This chemical, which was previously only associated with childbirth to bond mother and baby, increases dramatically when we hug and hold hands. The wonder-hormone, Oxytocin, supposedly helps you face tough obstacles in your life. As well as instilling calm into your body, it also freezes the bodies —panic?? and —flight or fright?? reflex.
Which means you are hormonally BONDING with this man who is not your man, this can create deep emotional mental conflict for a woman. You are FORMING the same bond the Aries girl formed through him behaving this way.
"we've been inseperable after that, he always asks me to come to his place after work (we've got different shifts) and when it's his time to go to work, he allows me to stay on his place. we take meals together and we both check on each other . he usually tells me where he's going and who's he with even if im not asking. we even spend weekends together at his house. "
Another seductive technique, this all about seduction, pretending to be the doting boyfriend and which can and will instill the idea that he cares about you deeply and will take good care of you (up until he realizes you are in love then he'll dump you like he dumped the Aries), of course YOU ARE NOT HIS GIRLFRIEND so there is no reason for him to treat you this way unless he's seducing, if you were his girlfriend then of course he'd be treating you this way because your his girlfriend but notice he's DOING all of this for a woman he isn't in a relationship with, thus when he gets into a relationship all of this stops, literally all of this behavior ceases and he's done, he's dumping you for the next unsuspecting woman just like he dumped the Aries and found you, of course you think it's because the Aries was suffocating him and that's why he dumped her but the reality is...HE ENCOURAGED HER SUFFOCATING BEHAVIOR BECAUSE HE ONCE WAS RECIPROCATING THE SAME SUFFOCATING BEHAVIOR at one point in the relationship, once he realized she was in love it all STOPPED and how exactly is she supposed to turn off her feelings just like that well she can't, she can't just stop loving someone who used to love her back. He's treating you the same way.
" and when we're not together, we tie up the phone for hours. he calls and sends me e-mail if he's the one in the office and im left at his house or if im back at my place and vice versa. replies to my text messages seconds after i hit the send button"
Again just another seductive technique to create a strong bond, I bet it just feels so suffocating and good to have this man enevelop you the way he's doing, I bet you are hooked on it like crack, and that's all it's meant to do...GET YOU HOOKED and you'll be just like the Aries girl, FEIGNING once he pulls out, feigning for his love and attention, feigning for his text messages and emails, feigning for the cuddles and feigning for him to tell you where he is daily. It's all BS game to win adoring fans.
Another seductive technique, this all about seduction, pretending to be the doting boyfriend and which can and will instill the idea that he cares about you deeply and will take good care of you (up until he realizes you are in love then he'll dump you like he dumped the Aries), of course YOU ARE NOT HIS GIRLFRIEND so there is no reason for him to treat you this way unless he's seducing, if you were his girlfriend then of course he'd be treating you this way because your his girlfriend but notice he's DOING all of this for a woman he isn't in a relationship with, thus when he gets into a relationship all of this stops, literally all of this behavior ceases and he's done, he's dumping you for the next unsuspecting woman just like he dumped the Aries and found you, of course you think it's because the Aries was suffocating him and that's why he dumped her but the reality is...HE ENCOURAGED HER SUFFOCATING BEHAVIOR BECAUSE HE ONCE WAS RECIPROCATING THE SAME SUFFOCATING BEHAVIOR at one point in the relationship, once he realized she was in love it all STOPPED and how exactly is she supposed to turn off her feelings just like that well she can't, she can't just stop loving someone who used to love her back. He's treating you the same way.
" and when we're not together, we tie up the phone for hours. he calls and sends me e-mail if he's the one in the office and im left at his house or if im back at my place and vice versa. replies to my text messages seconds after i hit the send button"
Again just another seductive technique to create a strong bond, I bet it just feels so suffocating and good to have this man enevelop you the way he's doing, I bet you are hooked on it like crack, and that's all it's meant to do...GET YOU HOOKED and you'll be just like the Aries girl, FEIGNING once he pulls out, feigning for his love and attention, feigning for his text messages and emails, feigning for the cuddles and feigning for him to tell you where he is daily. It's all BS game to win adoring fans.
This would be different if he was doing all this with you and to you and you 2 were in a monogamous committed relationship, I would high 5 you and say you got you a winner but his guy is doing all this to women whom he has no real emotional ties to, he's not in a real relationship with you so what exactly IS HIS POINT, and that's what you should be asking yourself to get the real answer to all of this. You are not his friend, you are not anything to him so what's the big idea exactly to why he's doing everything he can to gain your trust, make you fall in love and bond with him and then (drum roll) dump you like he dumped the Aries girl and this is the killer part, you don't even know you are going to be dumped like the last girl b/c he's programming you to fall in love with him through all of these techniques which blinds you to the inevitable outcome, oh I guess you think he's going to take you on and be your boyfriend LOL, think again.
My suggestion, stop cuddling, stop going over to his house, get out now while you can still breathe, cut him off and if you can't cut him off then you know he's done something to you chemically that he had no business doing, you'll have to wean yourself off.
My suggestion, stop cuddling, stop going over to his house, get out now while you can still breathe, cut him off and if you can't cut him off then you know he's done something to you chemically that he had no business doing, you'll have to wean yourself off.
So you see...The Aries girl is not some kind of love sick loser who just can't let go no no no...She's his creation, all of the behavior he's demonstrated and displayed with you well he did the exact same behavior with her and to her and you'll be next, someone will be calling you love sick and can't let go.
thanks tiki, this is exactly what i need to hear. i wasn't too far gone yet and i know (felt) im probably not seeing the whole picture here that's why i finally decided to stop lurking and ask advise/opinion instead. can't help seeing myself exactly where the aries girl is farther down the road. i already tried backing away a few steps when i started reaching out to friends and spending time with them on my weekends off just so i'll have an excuse and say no when he invites me over. i've been single for a year and half, was trying to let go of an aries guy ive lived with for 5 years and i must say he's got perfect timing. you won't usually caught me unaware (me being a scorp) but this leo man turned on the charm and i got hooked. whew, that was longer than what i had posted and i really appreciate that you took the time to reply. when he starts messing with my head again (and my heart) i'll go back to what you wrote and try to see past the seduction. i mostly deal with capricorns and virgos (i get along great with earth and water signs). first time to encounter a leo and be smothered with the famous leo charm. when you think about it, i got burned by another fire sign before (ex-aries) lol, should have seen it coming. thanks for showing me the red flags i was clearly ignoring. (my gawd, i can already hear the whirring of a revenge plot starting somewhere in my subconcious) i've been losing sleep recently trying to put two and two together, something just doesn't add up right. im clearly hooked (was actually thinking, wishing he'd ask to be my boyfriend, LOL) i'd rather get cut trying to get off the hook than get hoodwinked again by a charmer. those were strong points and it hurts when truth smacks you right between the eye but brutal cold hard facts are the only way to snap me out of my trance. again tiki, thank you so much....
thanks tiki, this is exactly what i need to hear. i wasn't too far gone yet and i know (felt) im probably not seeing the whole picture here that's why i finally decided to stop lurking and ask advise/opinion instead. can't help seeing myself exactly where the aries girl is farther down the road. i already tried backing away a few steps when i started reaching out to friends and spending time with them on my weekends off just so i'll have an excuse and say no when he invites me over. i've been single for a year and half, was trying to let go of an aries guy ive lived with for 5 years and i must say he's got perfect timing. you won't usually caught me unaware (me being a scorp) but this leo man turned on the charm and i got hooked. whew, that was longer than what i had posted and i really appreciate that you took the time to reply. when he starts messing with my head again (and my heart) i'll go back to what you wrote and try to see past the seduction. i mostly deal with capricorns and virgos (i get along great with earth and water signs). first time to encounter a leo and be smothered with the famous leo charm. when you think about it, i got burned by another fire sign before (ex-aries) lol, should have seen it coming. thanks for showing me the red flags i was clearly ignoring. (my gawd, i can already hear the whirring of a revenge plot starting somewhere in my subconcious) i've been losing sleep recently trying to put two and two together, something just doesn't add up right. im clearly hooked (was actually thinking, wishing he'd ask to be my boyfriend, LOL) i'd rather get cut trying to get off the hook than get hoodwinked again by a charmer. those were strong points and it hurts when truth smacks you right between the eye but brutal cold hard facts are the only way to snap me out of my trance. again tiki, thank you so much....
Oh if you don't back up and back out slowly you'll be JUST LIKE HER. It's not fun being in love all by yourself, it's miserable and it's his fault, he misled her just like he's leading you on, he's giving you permission to fall in love by being super AVAILABLE AND CUDDLING when in reality he's unavailable, he himself said he's not read for commitment so why is he BEHAVING in a way that says the complete opposite? He's not being honest, he's saying I don't want commitment but everything he does says otherwise. Do you for one second believe that the you or the Aries girl would allow yourselves to fall in love if this guy wasn't doing all the things he's doing, probably not, if he said to you I don't want a relationship and his behavior MATCHED with what he said do you think you'd be falling in love with him? PROBABLY NOT. He's encouraging you and he encouraged the Aries to fall in love, he made you both feel safe, he's super available 99% of the time and he's not gesturing or positioning himself for sex, he appears completely confident and calm around you which gives a woman a false sense of comfort.
It's not fun unless you know from the start what's going on and can counter his behavior and challenge his behavior with some opposing energy but many many women are in such an emotional deficit that she feels she's hit the JACKPOT, only to find out she's been emotionally conned, the women who know nothing about these subtle control tactics well she's 100 steps behind and will end up feeling played or maybe jilted or toyed with and rejected or maybe feel all of the above, I feel for the poor Aries girl because she'll be stuck in love over him for a long time and he'll move on to a new target after he's done with you of course.
He has a behavior problem, he's a fraud but in his reality he's just having fun but these are real people, the women left behind are REAL HUMAN BEINGS and that's the issue I have with the men who play these kind of PUA games with women.
It's not fun unless you know from the start what's going on and can counter his behavior and challenge his behavior with some opposing energy but many many women are in such an emotional deficit that she feels she's hit the JACKPOT, only to find out she's been emotionally conned, the women who know nothing about these subtle control tactics well she's 100 steps behind and will end up feeling played or maybe jilted or toyed with and rejected or maybe feel all of the above, I feel for the poor Aries girl because she'll be stuck in love over him for a long time and he'll move on to a new target after he's done with you of course.
He has a behavior problem, he's a fraud but in his reality he's just having fun but these are real people, the women left behind are REAL HUMAN BEINGS and that's the issue I have with the men who play these kind of PUA games with women.
I wish I could tell you how to counter act his behavior, the most I can tell you is to back out slowly, start dating other men, stay busy, stay out of his home, stop cuddling, stop talking to him for hours, 5/10 minutes at the most, whatever you were doing in the past just stop it now while you have a chance to get out with your heart and soul and mind intact.
As it stands right now your brain is probably addicted to him, LOVE ADDICT these men turn women into addicts (love addicts) I bet you'll have withdrawals when you try to pull away if you haven't already and they can be very intense feelings, frustrating and confusing feelings as well...Why? Because of the oxytocin in the brain, you'll crash and you'll be just like the ex Aries, waiting for her prince to return. He's gone for her, he'll never go back to her, it'll never be the same and he'll do you the same way.
If you really pay attention and go back to the scene of the crime you can see what I'm saying bares some semblance of truth, that girl just didn't fall in love all on her own, he did something to help her get that way and he's doing it to you too and he'll do it to the next girl and the next until someone kicks him in the balls over it LOL j/k but he'll probably never stop until he gets bored and decides to do something different, LIKE BE NORMAL instead of being a PUA douchebag.
Google PUA you'll most likely notice techniques that sound and seem familiar, plenty of sites out there that teach men how to create this unbreakable bond with women, it works, I respect it and I try to hip women on to it, some listen, some don't and reject it, once the spell is cast well complete denial sets in and there isn't much I or anyone can say to help that person at that point, hopefully you'll take heed and ease your way out of it.
You don't have to stop seeing him but try to take CONTROL over your life by being a lot more independent from him, this will SAVE you once he realizes the jig is up and he's found out, he'll either lay on the pressure to pull you away from yourself and your life or he'll leave you alone (slowly fade out like he was never in your life) and pursue a new target.
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As it stands right now your brain is probably addicted to him, LOVE ADDICT these men turn women into addicts (love addicts) I bet you'll have withdrawals when you try to pull away if you haven't already and they can be very intense feelings, frustrating and confusing feelings as well...Why? Because of the oxytocin in the brain, you'll crash and you'll be just like the ex Aries, waiting for her prince to return. He's gone for her, he'll never go back to her, it'll never be the same and he'll do you the same way.
If you really pay attention and go back to the scene of the crime you can see what I'm saying bares some semblance of truth, that girl just didn't fall in love all on her own, he did something to help her get that way and he's doing it to you too and he'll do it to the next girl and the next until someone kicks him in the balls over it LOL j/k but he'll probably never stop until he gets bored and decides to do something different, LIKE BE NORMAL instead of being a PUA douchebag.
Google PUA you'll most likely notice techniques that sound and seem familiar, plenty of sites out there that teach men how to create this unbreakable bond with women, it works, I respect it and I try to hip women on to it, some listen, some don't and reject it, once the spell is cast well complete denial sets in and there isn't much I or anyone can say to help that person at that point, hopefully you'll take heed and ease your way out of it.
You don't have to stop seeing him but try to take CONTROL over your life by being a lot more independent from him, this will SAVE you once he realizes the jig is up and he's found out, he'll either lay on the pressure to pull you away from yourself and your life or he'll leave you alone (slowly fade out like he was never in your life) and pursue a new target.
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I hope I'm wrong...But if anything I say adds up, take heed.
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Google PUA you'll most likely notice techniques that sound and seem familiar, plenty of sites out there that teach men how to create this unbreakable bond with women, it works, I respect it and I try to hip women on to it, some listen, some don't and reject it, once the spell is cast well complete denial sets in and there isn't much I or anyone can say to help that person at that point, hopefully you'll take heed and ease your way out of it.
*googling PUA...
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You don't have to stop seeing him but try to take CONTROL over your life by being a lot more independent from him, this will SAVE you once he realizes the jig is up and he's found out, he'll either lay on the pressure to pull you away from yourself and your life or he'll leave you alone (slowly fade out like he was never in your life) and pursue a new target.
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don't worry tiki, i was on guard the whole time i was getting hooked. (hard to believe, i know) i've got defenses learned from past experiences that automatically kicks in when needed. maybe i miss the feeling of being part of a relationship that's why i let myself get drawn to him. feels like i'm under a spell, i'm aware of what i'm doing but i felt powerless to do something about it. i relish control, same as any leos, i guess, and though my heart whispers me to obey, the defenses i built around myself before meeting him knows i have to take control of my feelings and don't let my emotions run away with me. i admit i got scared. i was ready to throw caution to the wind and make him mine and it scared the hell out of me. emotions were running high and lines are getting blurred. ive been alone too long and i recognize the danger of letting myself fall for someone who's not on the same page as me. (reason i can't sleep most nights) the way i felt about him and the direction where our relationship (friendship whatever) is heading goes against everything ive learned. the last time i spent the night at his place ( 2 nights ) i stayed up all night busying myself with stuff online (while he sleeps) testing myself if i can resist him. i know it's a small step towards the right direction but i was able to manage it. and a week before that i was trying to exhaust my list of excuses not to come to his place, lol. my friends were pretty supportive but they knew i won't heed any advice unless im ready (lol scorpio's stubborn streak, they all knew it)and im thankful they trust me enough that they know i'll see through the deception sooner or later. ive been lurking on these leo boards for more than a month trying to find answers (or justify what we were doing) or what im getting myself into...
the sympathy i felt for the aries girl is one nagging doubt that stayed with me the whole time. at some point, i knew he led her to believe he was in love with her or they wouldn't be
If he hasn't asked you to be his girlfriend, if he hasn't even mentioned it then HOLD ONTO YOURSELF, meaning don't throw your feelings out on the table like a silly school girl, you're a grown woman, ACT like one by displaying SELF CONTROL, he expects you to throw caution to the wind like the Aries girl and lay all your feelings on the line, he'll then go into letting you down easy with tired "I don't want a commitment yet" line of course you already know this b/c he's said the exact same thing to the Aries girl, there is a 99.99% chance he'll feed you the same exact line.
He know you miss being a part of something solid, they are KEEN on picking this stuff up through all those HOURS AND HOURS of conversations you've had together, I'm sure you've told him a whole lot of sensitive information that can be used as ammunition some day if he needs to use it, he'll probably go into how pressured he feels or how suffocating you are at some point, DON'T BE SURPRISED, I'm just giving you a heads up so you can keep up.
" emotions were running high and lines are getting blurred."
Because he's ACTING like a boyfriend but he's not your boyfriend and there is no way around feeling confused because lines are getting blurred, there are no boundaries, he's behaving like a friend but displaying boyfriend like behavior, who wouldn't get confused by that...Is he a friend? Or is he a boyfriend? Which is it? I bet your not sure...Right? LOL and this is what tempts women to spill her guts, she hopes he feels the same only to get the "let's be friends" speech, then it's over, no more calls, they are far few in between, no more cuddle, NOTHING, it all just stops or slowly fades out.
I know Scorp's are stubborn but I also know you don't take well to being toyed with and revenge is on the menu LOL....I wish you best, it'll be interesting to see how things manifest between you 2 now that you've been hipped on to his tactics.
He know you miss being a part of something solid, they are KEEN on picking this stuff up through all those HOURS AND HOURS of conversations you've had together, I'm sure you've told him a whole lot of sensitive information that can be used as ammunition some day if he needs to use it, he'll probably go into how pressured he feels or how suffocating you are at some point, DON'T BE SURPRISED, I'm just giving you a heads up so you can keep up.
" emotions were running high and lines are getting blurred."
Because he's ACTING like a boyfriend but he's not your boyfriend and there is no way around feeling confused because lines are getting blurred, there are no boundaries, he's behaving like a friend but displaying boyfriend like behavior, who wouldn't get confused by that...Is he a friend? Or is he a boyfriend? Which is it? I bet your not sure...Right? LOL and this is what tempts women to spill her guts, she hopes he feels the same only to get the "let's be friends" speech, then it's over, no more calls, they are far few in between, no more cuddle, NOTHING, it all just stops or slowly fades out.
I know Scorp's are stubborn but I also know you don't take well to being toyed with and revenge is on the menu LOL....I wish you best, it'll be interesting to see how things manifest between you 2 now that you've been hipped on to his tactics.
I'm all for falling in love, 2 people falling in love together is one of the most magnificent human experiences but falling in love all by yourself sucks beyond words, it's no fun allowing one self to fall in love only to find out you're all by yourself, in love ALONE, he's off to bag another why she sits there miserable, alone and falling to pieces on a daily basis, I hope you take whatever you can from this and learn.
Of course I could be all wrong about this guy, he could just be the ultimate svengali gentlemen but odds are he's practicing something that puts women under his spell, she's ready to throw her whole body at his feet and contest her love for him and that is exactly what he wants...WHAT A HUGE EGO RUSH, I bet he feels like some kind of God! I wouldn't give him the chance to play with my head and heart like that, HELL NO! I'd slowly back out before I allow that.
The only way I can say he's on the real is if he offers you a real relationship and even then I would be cautious, that could be the last resort just so he can WIN...Oh and this is a sport for men like him, win win win, all the those broken hearts left behind.
I wonder whose the REAL him? Probably a very insecure little lion...
Of course I could be all wrong about this guy, he could just be the ultimate svengali gentlemen but odds are he's practicing something that puts women under his spell, she's ready to throw her whole body at his feet and contest her love for him and that is exactly what he wants...WHAT A HUGE EGO RUSH, I bet he feels like some kind of God! I wouldn't give him the chance to play with my head and heart like that, HELL NO! I'd slowly back out before I allow that.
The only way I can say he's on the real is if he offers you a real relationship and even then I would be cautious, that could be the last resort just so he can WIN...Oh and this is a sport for men like him, win win win, all the those broken hearts left behind.
I wonder whose the REAL him? Probably a very insecure little lion...
" i won't heed any advice unless im ready "
Be careful, your stubborn streak is about to lead you into a pit of misery...I know your under his spell because you're not doing anything to protect yourself, you see what he's doing and you feel helpless to do anything about it.
I don't know what else to tell you honestly...Stop spending the night at his place, stop doing things that create this confusion inside of yourself, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU NOT HIM and if you don't take heed and start taking responsibility for yourself then you'll go down the same beaten path as the Aries and you'll join heartbreakville with all the other broken heart'd women, he'll move on b/c he's not hurt or in love, if someone is busy doing things to MAKE YOU FALL IN LOVE then when does he have time to fall in love himself, the only one ending up in love is you all by yourself...Think about that
It's not too late for you, instead of finding reasons not to see him just say NO, I'll catch you next time, again this is about you and your emotional health but maybe you're too far gone and all you can do is just play this out to the end, I wish you luck, I hope you don't end up like the Aries girl but the likelihood that you will is imminent.
Have fun while it's fun and just prepare for the ending....It's coming and it sucks like hell, it hurts beyond belief.
Be careful, your stubborn streak is about to lead you into a pit of misery...I know your under his spell because you're not doing anything to protect yourself, you see what he's doing and you feel helpless to do anything about it.
I don't know what else to tell you honestly...Stop spending the night at his place, stop doing things that create this confusion inside of yourself, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU NOT HIM and if you don't take heed and start taking responsibility for yourself then you'll go down the same beaten path as the Aries and you'll join heartbreakville with all the other broken heart'd women, he'll move on b/c he's not hurt or in love, if someone is busy doing things to MAKE YOU FALL IN LOVE then when does he have time to fall in love himself, the only one ending up in love is you all by yourself...Think about that
It's not too late for you, instead of finding reasons not to see him just say NO, I'll catch you next time, again this is about you and your emotional health but maybe you're too far gone and all you can do is just play this out to the end, I wish you luck, I hope you don't end up like the Aries girl but the likelihood that you will is imminent.
Have fun while it's fun and just prepare for the ending....It's coming and it sucks like hell, it hurts beyond belief.
If you want the honest to god truth I'm a Leo first decan which is as Leo as a Leo can get. Leo females and males are different in a lot of ways because of societal stigmas and gender but in the core they are the same. I find it very intriguing that many scorps are posting their attraction to Leos because truth is, scorpios and Leos attract like magnets at first sites regardless if it's friendship-same gender, or relationship/friendships-opposite gender. They either end up loving each other like no other or hate each other with a passion. I sincerely believe that this is the one pair of signs that tells epic love stories regardless of the turn out because they are both passionate, dedicated and give each other what they need. Leo needs attention and Scorpio gives them that with their strong emotional drive. Scorpio needs to feel needed and Leo gives them that because Leo's ruler is the heart and endlessly gives their hearts to others, but most importantly Leo knows how to give others their personal space which Scorpio admires. Scorpio is possessive so sometimes they don't understand leo because Leo is not as emotional (is more independent and aloof) and sometimes gives too much personal space.
Getting into the mind of a leo:
1) In relationships Leos are often confused. If you get too carried away they may lose interest because they are secretly afraid of committing solely to one thing, hence independence, they like to spread out and commit to everyone equally. They are people pleasers.
2) Leos do not like being controlled. Beware Scorpio, this is where your bump heads. If you are smart (which most scorpios are definitely highly intelligent and perceptive) you'll try easing them into doing what you want sometimes by very subtle suggestion. I'm not talking about TAKING control. I'm actually mentioning this because sometime when Leos get too comfortable with people, Leos like to be in control ALL THE TIME, sometimes not knowing that they are being selfish and giving in to the other persons likes. This is done unintentionally and if you try to blatantly control them they will get offended because a) you are taking their independence away and b) they feel hurt that you have pointed out their unintentional selfishness.
3) Leos are NOT PLAYERS. They simply seem like players because they like PLEASING PEOPLE. They will flirt because they feel bad, they will do nice gestures because they feel bad, they will be there for you because they feel bad. They
Getting into the mind of a leo:
1) In relationships Leos are often confused. If you get too carried away they may lose interest because they are secretly afraid of committing solely to one thing, hence independence, they like to spread out and commit to everyone equally. They are people pleasers.
2) Leos do not like being controlled. Beware Scorpio, this is where your bump heads. If you are smart (which most scorpios are definitely highly intelligent and perceptive) you'll try easing them into doing what you want sometimes by very subtle suggestion. I'm not talking about TAKING control. I'm actually mentioning this because sometime when Leos get too comfortable with people, Leos like to be in control ALL THE TIME, sometimes not knowing that they are being selfish and giving in to the other persons likes. This is done unintentionally and if you try to blatantly control them they will get offended because a) you are taking their independence away and b) they feel hurt that you have pointed out their unintentional selfishness.
3) Leos are NOT PLAYERS. They simply seem like players because they like PLEASING PEOPLE. They will flirt because they feel bad, they will do nice gestures because they feel bad, they will be there for you because they feel bad. They
They feel bad because they try to put themselves in the same position. They'd like to be treated like royalty so they treat others like loyalty. And when people are treated like royalty they mistakenly assume it's for a reason (i.e. the person likes me) when there is no reason. Leos just have huge hearts. One thing is that Leos do not tend to lie or give the impression that they are lying. They will not spend all their time with you if they aren't attracted. They will just be there for you when you need them, or to let you know that they are still there. They will go out of their way for anyone but out of request or personal moral obligation/proper manners-ettiquete. If they like you they will go out of their way for you without question and it will seem to be coming out of nowhere. (i.e. Think of a cat. A cat comes and goes and will seem to be there when you need them. But a loving cat will annoyingly be there all the time purring next to you for affection-even in times where there is no need.)
To make a long story short. I don't think he's playing you or using you. Why? because read any astrological text on Leos and they all basically mention the predictability of a Leo. When a leo doesn't like you it's hard to tell because they seem amazing, kind, generous, and attentive to anyone they meet. But when a leo doesn't like you there are many obvious cues that they don't.
Eventually they will make polite and reasonable excuses to not meet you. And if you ask?
Leo's don't tend to lie.
They'll tell you how they feel. Whether it's confused, whether they just want to be friends or they are interested in you.
When they like you they open up more. If you text..like you have...they will respond with a quickness. They will be right at your door at 10 in the evening even if they have work at 4 in the morning to see you. They will shower you with kisses and affection (Leos are LAZY AND THEY ARE GENERALLY NOT AFFECTIONATE WITH PEOPLE THEY DON'T LIKE and especially PEOPLE THEY "USE" They will not go the extra mile to even kiss you if they don't want to. It's all about what THEY want to do, or in other words-control.)
Between leo and scorpio? Honestly my experiences and from what I've seen.
If I leo doesn't like a scorpio. They won't even want to communicate with them and will vaguely do so out of common courtesy.
So there you have your answer.
But if you do like this guy, I suggest having a sincere talk about your feelings.
To make a long story short. I don't think he's playing you or using you. Why? because read any astrological text on Leos and they all basically mention the predictability of a Leo. When a leo doesn't like you it's hard to tell because they seem amazing, kind, generous, and attentive to anyone they meet. But when a leo doesn't like you there are many obvious cues that they don't.
Eventually they will make polite and reasonable excuses to not meet you. And if you ask?
Leo's don't tend to lie.
They'll tell you how they feel. Whether it's confused, whether they just want to be friends or they are interested in you.
When they like you they open up more. If you text..like you have...they will respond with a quickness. They will be right at your door at 10 in the evening even if they have work at 4 in the morning to see you. They will shower you with kisses and affection (Leos are LAZY AND THEY ARE GENERALLY NOT AFFECTIONATE WITH PEOPLE THEY DON'T LIKE and especially PEOPLE THEY "USE" They will not go the extra mile to even kiss you if they don't want to. It's all about what THEY want to do, or in other words-control.)
Between leo and scorpio? Honestly my experiences and from what I've seen.
If I leo doesn't like a scorpio. They won't even want to communicate with them and will vaguely do so out of common courtesy.
So there you have your answer.
But if you do like this guy, I suggest having a sincere talk about your feelings.
Scorpios can be very cautious and this may seem like the scorpio could be moving too slow for the leo. Leos lack patience. They don't like waiting around for people for too long. They have durability and loyalty so they'll wait around for a while but after that while is over (or they meet someone else) it's gone. You'll be left wondering what happened.
Unlike scorpios, Leos are not emotionally receptive. They need more than attention, they need words. Leos are oblivious to acts of love because they shower acts of love on everyone they meet. So they don't feel special that you cooked for him or that you spend your time with him, or that you made an initiative. For them it's different. It's different because you could do that for anyone. They need those words, "I like you" , "I'm interested in you" just as they need flattery, "you are amazing". If they don't get this. If you don't communicate then they will feel rejected, then disinterested, and then they will disappear.
I'm writing this (and I apologize it's long lol) because Scorpios seem to not understand this way of thinking. They think "hey I cooked a grand meal for you, of course I love you. Look at the lengths I would go to in order to please you." While Leo thinks "It's normal etiquette to cook and please your guests. Cooking for me is nice, and you're a great person. This makes me feel good. But these actions mean nothing in comparison to words. You haven't stated your interest in me. So there is no way I can reasonably and logically assume that you are remotely interested in my whatsoever."
Just talk to him. It seems scary for both signs because both signs are secretive. Scorpio is secretive with their inner feelings and may never honestly fully tell someone in depth how feel about them with the fear that they will scare the person away but truthfully Leo is just as secretive with their inner feelings because their pride makes them afraid of rejection. So they rather not divulge any information unless the person inquires.
However, once Scorpio and leo decide to openly communicate with each other they do so very well. They have in depth conversations that reveal a lot about each other and how they feel. Honestly there is a magic spark that makes these two completely honest with each other, laid back and comfortable. This spark allows them to communicate like they've known each other for years. So try it out!
Unlike scorpios, Leos are not emotionally receptive. They need more than attention, they need words. Leos are oblivious to acts of love because they shower acts of love on everyone they meet. So they don't feel special that you cooked for him or that you spend your time with him, or that you made an initiative. For them it's different. It's different because you could do that for anyone. They need those words, "I like you" , "I'm interested in you" just as they need flattery, "you are amazing". If they don't get this. If you don't communicate then they will feel rejected, then disinterested, and then they will disappear.
I'm writing this (and I apologize it's long lol) because Scorpios seem to not understand this way of thinking. They think "hey I cooked a grand meal for you, of course I love you. Look at the lengths I would go to in order to please you." While Leo thinks "It's normal etiquette to cook and please your guests. Cooking for me is nice, and you're a great person. This makes me feel good. But these actions mean nothing in comparison to words. You haven't stated your interest in me. So there is no way I can reasonably and logically assume that you are remotely interested in my whatsoever."
Just talk to him. It seems scary for both signs because both signs are secretive. Scorpio is secretive with their inner feelings and may never honestly fully tell someone in depth how feel about them with the fear that they will scare the person away but truthfully Leo is just as secretive with their inner feelings because their pride makes them afraid of rejection. So they rather not divulge any information unless the person inquires.
However, once Scorpio and leo decide to openly communicate with each other they do so very well. They have in depth conversations that reveal a lot about each other and how they feel. Honestly there is a magic spark that makes these two completely honest with each other, laid back and comfortable. This spark allows them to communicate like they've known each other for years. So try it out!
forgot something in 1) If you give them too much space, they will stray. They will feel neglected and abandoned.
Leo men are not like leo females when it comes to the matter of the heart, leo females are loyal to a T, she will have your back no matter what as long as he's loving her loyally, but the leo men well they are different, very different when it comes to the matters of the heart, he'll stray if someone better comes along without hesitation.....
I grew up with a Leo mom and Leo brother and he's FULL 100% Leo...Leo males do and will cheat just like any other sign, the females are more loyal than than the male leo's.
Immature Leo men will do the whole I want you thing until she's hooked in and fallen and then POOF he's gone or he's string her along until something better shows up but I will say that leo men give good good loving and not all are like the one described in my post about this particular guy, I see through his whole game but Leo men are not bad men IMO, they just burn out quickly if a woman doesn't pace herself and yes some leo men are quite the seducers, they love being loved and will say or do anything to get that loving feeling from his partner. They love to demonstrate love to the woman of his affection, in this particular case, this guy is full of it, he's misleading her just like he misled the Aries and I stand by my statement 100% .
I understand leo's quite well, lived with em all my life, dated one for a few years and I know what they are capable, if he's a mature Leo he won't feed you bullshit lines and dump you later but if he's an immature Leo he most certainly will feed you bullshit and dump you later. IMO Her's is the kind that feed you bullshit and then dump you later.
I'm not surprised the leo females are taking up for leo males, again leo females are LOYAL to a T, and they know it's a reflection upon them as well so they go to bat and that's why I love love love my leo females, strong, confident and will have your back but anyone that's not blind as a bat can see the game this dude is running.
I grew up with a Leo mom and Leo brother and he's FULL 100% Leo...Leo males do and will cheat just like any other sign, the females are more loyal than than the male leo's.
Immature Leo men will do the whole I want you thing until she's hooked in and fallen and then POOF he's gone or he's string her along until something better shows up but I will say that leo men give good good loving and not all are like the one described in my post about this particular guy, I see through his whole game but Leo men are not bad men IMO, they just burn out quickly if a woman doesn't pace herself and yes some leo men are quite the seducers, they love being loved and will say or do anything to get that loving feeling from his partner. They love to demonstrate love to the woman of his affection, in this particular case, this guy is full of it, he's misleading her just like he misled the Aries and I stand by my statement 100% .
I understand leo's quite well, lived with em all my life, dated one for a few years and I know what they are capable, if he's a mature Leo he won't feed you bullshit lines and dump you later but if he's an immature Leo he most certainly will feed you bullshit and dump you later. IMO Her's is the kind that feed you bullshit and then dump you later.
I'm not surprised the leo females are taking up for leo males, again leo females are LOYAL to a T, and they know it's a reflection upon them as well so they go to bat and that's why I love love love my leo females, strong, confident and will have your back but anyone that's not blind as a bat can see the game this dude is running.
Oh just so you know he may very well have meant everything he said in that moment, the moment of NOW but that doesn't mean always, it doesn't mean he'll feel that way 10 weeks from now so he could have very well felt love for you FireDragon but if you fell for it too fast then it ENDS even faster and that's part of the reality of dating a Leo, they are not at all as malicious as other signs, quite lovable and can be quite genuine in that moment, NOW moment is what women tend to confuse with future, she believes he'll feel the same later down the line but unfortunately that's not always the case, once the newness wears off IF he's not mature enough to handle a real relationship he'll most likely MOVE ON like your leo did FireDragon.
Yeah I'm not really here to fight, the women know when they've been played or being played, I'm not here to put leo men down, quite love the sign but I do know when men are playing games and this particular leo is playing a game, there are leo men that don't do this kind of shit but there are leo men who do, she just happens to have one of them whose running game on her, she'll know when she gets the let's be friends text or something similar to it, it's coming.
Oh and go through the post and see the difference in loyalty. There is plenty to read, you'll notice a huge difference in loyalty between leo men and leo females, it speaks for itself, I don't have to debate it, the proof is here on all the post that's posted up, you'll notice a huge contrast in how they both approach relationships, same sign but difference in how they approach love, a true loyal leo male is not hard to find but you'll go through a few bad ones to get a good one and that really can be said for any sign of the zodiac.
FireDragon it seems this guy has some issues to sort out for himself, I need a few more details like how you both met, how long did you date, and when his ex came back on the scene did he specifically say it's over, I'm trying to put a timeline to it and also the whole text about you being on some adult website seems really immature on his part. Is he young? In his 20's early 30's, sounds like a maturity issue on his part.
I'm not bitter just realistic, I'm happily engaged, taken and there isn't much to be bitter about, I'm informed and know when I see game being played. Notice the defensiveness LMAO!! This is a social network not WWE Smackdown.
FireDragon it seems like he can only be true up until a certain point, he hits the emotional brick wall and then he's moving on. There are men that can be serial daters, they can only do so much and go so far and they fizzle out. The past precludes the future, if he's immature and has a string of ex's behind him then that says a lot about him and his ability to hold onto and maintain a longterm relationship (he can't) he can't/he won't do serious long term with anyone, I don't think you did anything to make this guy lose interest, he was going to lose interest no matter what was going on, his past dictates his future, he'll have to want to change on his own and if he's happy being single, immature and running through women then most likely he'll continue on with the same relationship habit. He's loyal up to a certain extent and then POOF he's gone.
Sometimes we know certain things about a man but we won't take heed, I'm sure if you had really looked at how he behaves with other relationships you wouldn't have fell so hard but we always our relationships will be different only to find out the same nonsense is being played out. It seem you were hesitant to take him on but went against your better judgement.
Sometimes we know certain things about a man but we won't take heed, I'm sure if you had really looked at how he behaves with other relationships you wouldn't have fell so hard but we always our relationships will be different only to find out the same nonsense is being played out. It seem you were hesitant to take him on but went against your better judgement.
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too lightweight, I'll reserve my energy
too lightweight, I'll reserve my energy
FireDragon he was very honest with you, seems like a good guy just in the middle of an old relationship and he's going to be loyal to his ex until the relationship resolves itself (completely over). Don't give up on him just yet, your lion may be coming back around soon, just remember to not settle for less, he'll respect you for not taking him on whilst still being involved with his ex girlfriend. The hold his ex has over him is strong but all that could change if the aggravation continues. 8 weeks to 6 months he'll be done, until then relax, go out and have fun and forget about it, he'll be back.
Nah I've fought with the best on here (Scorpio women) you're just annoying, no fun...
You're right FireDragon and that's why I'm not fighting, it's just annoying to fight over differing opinions, I'm not disagreeing with anyone here, one could easily IGNORE what I'm saying and move on.
FireDragon you have the right attitude but I don't really see indecisiveness being played out, he made a choice and he chose his ex but with that being said I can see why you feel played, he most likely was caught up in the moment and didn't really think about how his words and behavior would effect you long term, this could happen in any relationship between any 2 signs.
Unless I'm missing some parts of your story with him, he moved too quickly to end his last relationship before jumping into another one with you so although he could have been genuine, a lion with unresolved feelings won't let the past go until it's played itself out completely. IMO the timing was all wrong, he wasn't completely ready to start anything new with anyone but probably didn't want to be alone with his hurt feelings and was seeking solace, appreciation, seeking with you all the things he wasn't getting from his ex at the time.
FireDragon you have the right attitude but I don't really see indecisiveness being played out, he made a choice and he chose his ex but with that being said I can see why you feel played, he most likely was caught up in the moment and didn't really think about how his words and behavior would effect you long term, this could happen in any relationship between any 2 signs.
Unless I'm missing some parts of your story with him, he moved too quickly to end his last relationship before jumping into another one with you so although he could have been genuine, a lion with unresolved feelings won't let the past go until it's played itself out completely. IMO the timing was all wrong, he wasn't completely ready to start anything new with anyone but probably didn't want to be alone with his hurt feelings and was seeking solace, appreciation, seeking with you all the things he wasn't getting from his ex at the time.
LOL@getting under my skin
You wish...
Stop being a big baby loser and move on
or
continue to look like a loser by fighting with yourself lol
You wish...
Stop being a big baby loser and move on
or
continue to look like a loser by fighting with yourself lol
I guess you like being a loser...Carry on
Don't worry about freaking him out. Leos are direct and respect others who will also direct. When you ask him, don't flirt, but be serious. Just saying something like, "You know how we flirt and spend so much time together? Sometimes I can't help but wonder if you're serious about some of the things said." Something along those lines. Then watch his face and how he responds. If he does only see you as a friend, he will cease with the overly flirtatious jokes and comments. He'll start treating you more like a friend, instead of girlfriend. Out of respect and care for you.
^^ I agree with hiplove79 completely.
"I'm not surprised the leo females are taking up for leo males, again leo females are LOYAL to a T, and they know it's a reflection upon them as well so they go to bat and that's why I love love love my leo females, strong, confident and will have your back but anyone that's not blind as a bat can see the game this dude is running."
^^ Kind of disagree. He could be running a game, could not. In my opinion, I don't really think so. But all you have to do is basically ask. In matters of the heart, I do feel that Leo females and males are alike. A leo female will stray if someone better comes along without hesitation and she will go "poof" as well. However, this doesn't mean she's not loyal...just no longer interested. Leo's don't "stay for the hell of it", when they no longer feel they no longer respond. It's all about response/reaction. Like I said they may feel the need to be courteous and polite but all Leos, women or men, tend to disappear. And believe me there is a good reason why we do. Thanks for the love tiki, I appreciate it. But because of social stigmas the genders might seem different, in the core they are not.
^^ I agree with hiplove79 completely.
"I'm not surprised the leo females are taking up for leo males, again leo females are LOYAL to a T, and they know it's a reflection upon them as well so they go to bat and that's why I love love love my leo females, strong, confident and will have your back but anyone that's not blind as a bat can see the game this dude is running."
^^ Kind of disagree. He could be running a game, could not. In my opinion, I don't really think so. But all you have to do is basically ask. In matters of the heart, I do feel that Leo females and males are alike. A leo female will stray if someone better comes along without hesitation and she will go "poof" as well. However, this doesn't mean she's not loyal...just no longer interested. Leo's don't "stay for the hell of it", when they no longer feel they no longer respond. It's all about response/reaction. Like I said they may feel the need to be courteous and polite but all Leos, women or men, tend to disappear. And believe me there is a good reason why we do. Thanks for the love tiki, I appreciate it. But because of social stigmas the genders might seem different, in the core they are not.
"oh yeah, i am not ashamed to say that i completely fell for him. i would be ashamed to say that out loud in public mind you but not here. in my mind, i was even getting a little pickety fencey which really freaked me out. he didn't get no response..he got a response from me but i'm just not as vocal...actions are more important. i treetrunking ironed the guy's shirt!!! what more response could you want, lol!!"
^^ Fire Dragon Scorpio....and I rest my case. "I'm just not as vocal...actions are more important. I treetrunking ironed the guy's shirt!!! what more response could you want, lol!!" Leo's mind: "Why, you ironed my shirt? Quite nice. I'd do that for my ole' chaps too. Could this mean she likes me?... Naawwww."
"Not disagreeing at all. But to come in and act like an authority on a sun sign that you're not born with is ludicrous. I visit to the Scorp board all the time. Though I have many opinions and experiences with Scorps, as well as my moon in Scorpio, I don't go over there acting like I understand them more than they do. I know when to sit down, shut the treetrunk up and learn from those who ARE actual Scorpios. Somethings I will never understand or experience, because I am not a Scorpio. It's called respect and this chick has none.
Lack of respect was another stupid move to bring over to the Leo's board. But she "knows and understands" Leos all to well...."
^^hiplove79
I'm actually pretty insulted as well. The whole female Leos are soo different from male Leos because they are chained to their men kind of made my stomach upset. ::Cough:: Madonna ::cough:: ::cough:: Halle Berry ::cough:: ::cough:: Sandra Bullock ::cough:: ::cough:: Charlize Theron ::cough:: ::cough:: Jennifer Lopez ::cough:: All beautiful, independent, and yes pretty loyal women who "disappeared" (which include abrupt divorces) You're right we are loyal to a certain extent...meaning.....WE ARE IMPATIENT. We deal with crap but not too long...and crap includes neglect. You know why people may hate us? Or think we are players? We tend to be so polite in relationships that we don't pester you with how annoyed we really are until we think to ourselves...why live with all this stress? Then you think..oh wow..."poof" they're gone for no reason. Just because we are extra nice people does not mean that there was "no reason".
Listen I'm not saying that it's "your fault" but what I am saying if you love a Leo, you HAVE to communicate. GAMES DO NOT WORK.
^^ Fire Dragon Scorpio....and I rest my case. "I'm just not as vocal...actions are more important. I treetrunking ironed the guy's shirt!!! what more response could you want, lol!!" Leo's mind: "Why, you ironed my shirt? Quite nice. I'd do that for my ole' chaps too. Could this mean she likes me?... Naawwww."
"Not disagreeing at all. But to come in and act like an authority on a sun sign that you're not born with is ludicrous. I visit to the Scorp board all the time. Though I have many opinions and experiences with Scorps, as well as my moon in Scorpio, I don't go over there acting like I understand them more than they do. I know when to sit down, shut the treetrunk up and learn from those who ARE actual Scorpios. Somethings I will never understand or experience, because I am not a Scorpio. It's called respect and this chick has none.
Lack of respect was another stupid move to bring over to the Leo's board. But she "knows and understands" Leos all to well...."
^^hiplove79
I'm actually pretty insulted as well. The whole female Leos are soo different from male Leos because they are chained to their men kind of made my stomach upset. ::Cough:: Madonna ::cough:: ::cough:: Halle Berry ::cough:: ::cough:: Sandra Bullock ::cough:: ::cough:: Charlize Theron ::cough:: ::cough:: Jennifer Lopez ::cough:: All beautiful, independent, and yes pretty loyal women who "disappeared" (which include abrupt divorces) You're right we are loyal to a certain extent...meaning.....WE ARE IMPATIENT. We deal with crap but not too long...and crap includes neglect. You know why people may hate us? Or think we are players? We tend to be so polite in relationships that we don't pester you with how annoyed we really are until we think to ourselves...why live with all this stress? Then you think..oh wow..."poof" they're gone for no reason. Just because we are extra nice people does not mean that there was "no reason".
Listen I'm not saying that it's "your fault" but what I am saying if you love a Leo, you HAVE to communicate. GAMES DO NOT WORK.
"I guess you like being a loser...Carry on"
^^Tikki
Name calling is not nice.
^^Tikki
Name calling is not nice.
splitnconfused: Thanks hun 🙂
I never said leo women are CHAINED to there men....You choose to be insulted and you know the mere fact that you both are attacking me makes my post MORE VALID. If it wasn't true you wouldn't feel the need to defend what you feel through my observations and the being insulted means there is some truth because if it was false no one would feel insulted.
Try HELPING her without dragging me into it and attacking my observations but you can't do that without your attempts to invalidate what I say.
If I'm wrong then let me be wrong, why argue and get insulted by a WRONG person. You don't have to ARGUE NOR DEFEND YOUR TRUTH, if i'm wrong and you're right let it stand for itself.
She can surf through DXP and see the correlation for herself, I'm not pointing anything out that's new and that hasn't been complained about or discussed about through DXP.
People know the difference between game and no game, I wasn't saying anything that hadn't crossed her mind already, my observation is one of many and not once did I come in here and say everyone is wrong and I'm right, I gave her my observation through what she posted, she already had questions of her own, I just put some of the puzzle pieces together, in the end she'll be the one to decide how far she'll go with this and what she chooses to believe.
Let your truth stand on it's own, leaning in on me by attempting to make my words LESS relevant won't make your advice any more or less relevant, in the end shooting down my observations actually WORK in my favor, I appear MORE RELEVANT or why else would anyone have to counter what I've said.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong...She'll decide that for herself, stick to the topic at hand instead of trying to make me look wrong because that just comes across as petty and insecure, let what you know stand on it's own without using me as back up.
Try HELPING her without dragging me into it and attacking my observations but you can't do that without your attempts to invalidate what I say.
If I'm wrong then let me be wrong, why argue and get insulted by a WRONG person. You don't have to ARGUE NOR DEFEND YOUR TRUTH, if i'm wrong and you're right let it stand for itself.
She can surf through DXP and see the correlation for herself, I'm not pointing anything out that's new and that hasn't been complained about or discussed about through DXP.
People know the difference between game and no game, I wasn't saying anything that hadn't crossed her mind already, my observation is one of many and not once did I come in here and say everyone is wrong and I'm right, I gave her my observation through what she posted, she already had questions of her own, I just put some of the puzzle pieces together, in the end she'll be the one to decide how far she'll go with this and what she chooses to believe.
Let your truth stand on it's own, leaning in on me by attempting to make my words LESS relevant won't make your advice any more or less relevant, in the end shooting down my observations actually WORK in my favor, I appear MORE RELEVANT or why else would anyone have to counter what I've said.
If I'm wrong then I'm wrong...She'll decide that for herself, stick to the topic at hand instead of trying to make me look wrong because that just comes across as petty and insecure, let what you know stand on it's own without using me as back up.
Don't be embarrassed, it happens! What I've found to be very helpful when I was going through similar situations many moons ago is to find out what exactly was going in my life that I needed to escape from myself through a man, acute loneliness, depression, failed relationships with family or friends or even an ex boyfriend and how could I fill my own void instead of REACHING for a relationship because truly relationships can't really fix anything that's going on inside of a person. I hate to sound preachy but it really can help you SLOW DOWN and not jump so far ahead into a relationship that may not potentially work out long term.
I sense you saw the red flag signals FireDragon but chose to ignore them or dismiss them. He wasn't completely available when you met him which should have been enough for you to slow down but I wonder why you sort of allowed yourself to fall for him knowing he wasn't really available or did he make it appear he was available, little confused on that issue
He definitely seems to lack respect for his ex's son/condition and I know you really wouldn't want that kind of person around your kids, so instead of focusing so much on the good, start to counteract that by looking at his bad qualities and how those qualities most likely wouldn't add anything positive to you and your kids.
Sit down and make a list of his good qualities and then list his bad qualities and then step back and take a broader look at his character and his values and see if they match up, most likely you'll notice despite all the feel good feelings he fed you he most likely wouldn't be a good partner long term.
The hardest part will be taking your feelings OUT of it first and then making better more realistic judgments about him and his behavior. It's hard not to want to place high value on his niceness but try to stay grounded and look at things with a broader perspective.
Is he really a great guy or are you making him out to be a great guy due to your own needs and wants. I guess what I'm trying to say is sometimes love can blind us to reality of what and who a person really is, despite him treating you nice and catering to your every whim, what was it that you weren't looking at that could have saved you from all this heartache. Every woman has that one subtle moment that says STOP take off the rose colored glasses. Did you ever have that moment?
I sense you saw the red flag signals FireDragon but chose to ignore them or dismiss them. He wasn't completely available when you met him which should have been enough for you to slow down but I wonder why you sort of allowed yourself to fall for him knowing he wasn't really available or did he make it appear he was available, little confused on that issue
He definitely seems to lack respect for his ex's son/condition and I know you really wouldn't want that kind of person around your kids, so instead of focusing so much on the good, start to counteract that by looking at his bad qualities and how those qualities most likely wouldn't add anything positive to you and your kids.
Sit down and make a list of his good qualities and then list his bad qualities and then step back and take a broader look at his character and his values and see if they match up, most likely you'll notice despite all the feel good feelings he fed you he most likely wouldn't be a good partner long term.
The hardest part will be taking your feelings OUT of it first and then making better more realistic judgments about him and his behavior. It's hard not to want to place high value on his niceness but try to stay grounded and look at things with a broader perspective.
Is he really a great guy or are you making him out to be a great guy due to your own needs and wants. I guess what I'm trying to say is sometimes love can blind us to reality of what and who a person really is, despite him treating you nice and catering to your every whim, what was it that you weren't looking at that could have saved you from all this heartache. Every woman has that one subtle moment that says STOP take off the rose colored glasses. Did you ever have that moment?
WOW@the ex's, hilarious! But I have to admit my ex leo had all his ex girlfriends around as well, he would step on toes and rotate them out, he was still INVOLVED emotionally and most likely intimately as well (I can semi prove that he was) I didn't really understand his behavior at the time but as the years have passed I realize he was lost, part of him needed all that attention because he was deeply insecure and he loved loved loved to self sabotage relationships b/c he was addicted to drama and addicted to women/people. Overall good experience with him was not bad, was interesting, but he had a bad attitude when he needed a fix from multiple women to elevate his self esteem and if I challenged him (bad temper) as well, he was a womanizer but not the worst kind of womanizer, he used women to feel better about himself.
Your lion is not "available" for a real loving one on one connection, he's still tied to his old emotional playground with these women and as long as they FEED his ego by giving him attention, fighting over him, he'll most likely put them first until someone he absolutely have to have comes into his life. It's not that he can't get rid of the ex's it's just that he hasn't found the kind of replacement he deeply desires to let them go, leo men certainly can move on from ex's but he has to feel like what he's replacing his ex's with is worth it. I'm not saying this to make you feel unloved or feel bad inside, you'd have to prove your love and loyalty for him to consider letting them all go and even then he'll still be interacting with them after his proven his loyalty to you. Ex's are a hard habit to break but not impossible if you filled the void these ex's supply. I wouldn't recommend you do that much hoop jumping but hey it all depends on how much you want him.
So now you revealed a few more con's, he a diabetic, he's an alcoholic, he keeps his ex's as supply to feel loved and, he loves drama *catty* behavior, he accused you of being on an adult website, his super ego paraded you around family/friends which was a bit embarrassing for you, he talked negative about his ex's son, he sent you the it was "fun" text basically dumping your for the ex. Can you think of any more con's? The con's are winning (right now) lol
The Pro's he catered to your every whim....Can you think of any other pro's
Your lion is not "available" for a real loving one on one connection, he's still tied to his old emotional playground with these women and as long as they FEED his ego by giving him attention, fighting over him, he'll most likely put them first until someone he absolutely have to have comes into his life. It's not that he can't get rid of the ex's it's just that he hasn't found the kind of replacement he deeply desires to let them go, leo men certainly can move on from ex's but he has to feel like what he's replacing his ex's with is worth it. I'm not saying this to make you feel unloved or feel bad inside, you'd have to prove your love and loyalty for him to consider letting them all go and even then he'll still be interacting with them after his proven his loyalty to you. Ex's are a hard habit to break but not impossible if you filled the void these ex's supply. I wouldn't recommend you do that much hoop jumping but hey it all depends on how much you want him.
So now you revealed a few more con's, he a diabetic, he's an alcoholic, he keeps his ex's as supply to feel loved and, he loves drama *catty* behavior, he accused you of being on an adult website, his super ego paraded you around family/friends which was a bit embarrassing for you, he talked negative about his ex's son, he sent you the it was "fun" text basically dumping your for the ex. Can you think of any more con's? The con's are winning (right now) lol
The Pro's he catered to your every whim....Can you think of any other pro's
Also instead of being insulted about the adult website accusation...Did you ever ask him why he was cruising online via an adult website? There is no I just happened to stumble on this site excuse he can use, like all other sites/social networks/dating sites, you have to actually log onto the site to see women whom advertise themselves, so he was looking for something, a casual hook up, or maybe he was curious I dunno but that's another con IMO or at the least a questionable question mark.
Going back reading what you wrote...Your read flag moment from what you've revealed was when you had to delete yourself from his Facebook page due to his ex's, that was a sure sign he wasn't available and to get out before you completely fell in love with the guy, sometimes it really is the subtle small sometimes big dynamics that's going on in the background that give us a heads up that something isn't right and to stop falling and look at things more objectively rather than emotionally.
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Oh hush, you haven't read anything I've said...You little insecure tyrant.
If I'm wrong and you're right then be right and let me be wrong, you are fighting with a STRANGER lol. You do realize that?
you don't have to use up all your e-energy going at me like your in love with me, quick clinging onto me silly codependent e-girl.
Letting a complete stranger run your feelings, you come off as a complete insecure low self esteem little girl who has to fight fight fight for her stance because she doesn't BELIEVE IN HERSELF or her trust her own observations.
I haven't defended myself because I don't have to, my observations can stand on it's own legs and if I'm wrong, well I'm wrong. What's my wrongness have to do with you? Absolutely NOTHING, it's not the end of the world, well least not for me it isn't but you well you act like you are about to crumble into tiny small pieces, your world is falling apart because of my observations...WOW get a life LOL
Continue on behaving like a mean kitty cat bitter loser
If I'm wrong and you're right then be right and let me be wrong, you are fighting with a STRANGER lol. You do realize that?
you don't have to use up all your e-energy going at me like your in love with me, quick clinging onto me silly codependent e-girl.
Letting a complete stranger run your feelings, you come off as a complete insecure low self esteem little girl who has to fight fight fight for her stance because she doesn't BELIEVE IN HERSELF or her trust her own observations.
I haven't defended myself because I don't have to, my observations can stand on it's own legs and if I'm wrong, well I'm wrong. What's my wrongness have to do with you? Absolutely NOTHING, it's not the end of the world, well least not for me it isn't but you well you act like you are about to crumble into tiny small pieces, your world is falling apart because of my observations...WOW get a life LOL
Continue on behaving like a mean kitty cat bitter loser
"i didn't have to remove him as a friend on facebook. i did it cos i didn't want to be a spectator."
Sit back and really think on this, I want you to realize FOR YOURSELF that if he was available you wouldn't have had to be exposed to his ex's at all, you wouldn't have felt the need to remove yourself if he was available to you. I guess I'm asking you to be very honest with yourself instead of being in "excuse making" mode, look at things from a new angle and not from the angle of I want to be with him so bad that I'll deny my real feelings about the situation. How did that make you feel getting the "it's fun" text? How did it make you feel having to be a spectator among his ex girlfriends fighting over him? Be honest with yourself, I'm sure it was a very disappointing hurtful event, it's important not to devalue your feelings in order to stay in this "holding onto him space" so when he does come around you'll be more grounded emotionally and not feel so clouded with heavy feelings from the past.
If you like him despite all his flaws, you've run them all down, looked at everything from every angle then go to him and see if you can make it work or wait for him to make the next move then go for it but make sure you KNOW without a doubt you can be with him and all his stuff (ALL OF IT not just some of it), it won't be easy but if that's what you want then don't make apologies or excuse for what you want.
LOL@Super hot but yeah I agree with your friend, you really have to stay grounded and focus more on maintaining your own routines, friendships and, hobbies etc it's good to stick with your own life habits until you know without a doubt the person is in it for the long haul as to not get so caught up over the other person, he's a leo so he'll bounce back soon, they don't stay down wallowing in sadness for very long.
Sit back and really think on this, I want you to realize FOR YOURSELF that if he was available you wouldn't have had to be exposed to his ex's at all, you wouldn't have felt the need to remove yourself if he was available to you. I guess I'm asking you to be very honest with yourself instead of being in "excuse making" mode, look at things from a new angle and not from the angle of I want to be with him so bad that I'll deny my real feelings about the situation. How did that make you feel getting the "it's fun" text? How did it make you feel having to be a spectator among his ex girlfriends fighting over him? Be honest with yourself, I'm sure it was a very disappointing hurtful event, it's important not to devalue your feelings in order to stay in this "holding onto him space" so when he does come around you'll be more grounded emotionally and not feel so clouded with heavy feelings from the past.
If you like him despite all his flaws, you've run them all down, looked at everything from every angle then go to him and see if you can make it work or wait for him to make the next move then go for it but make sure you KNOW without a doubt you can be with him and all his stuff (ALL OF IT not just some of it), it won't be easy but if that's what you want then don't make apologies or excuse for what you want.
LOL@Super hot but yeah I agree with your friend, you really have to stay grounded and focus more on maintaining your own routines, friendships and, hobbies etc it's good to stick with your own life habits until you know without a doubt the person is in it for the long haul as to not get so caught up over the other person, he's a leo so he'll bounce back soon, they don't stay down wallowing in sadness for very long.
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we were drinking while working and he was a perfect gentleman the whole evening. i was so at ease and comfortable that night (which is a rare thing for a scorp who didn't know a person that long) there was no awkwardness even if that was the first time we've been together and alone at his house. communication was great, never felt that close even with my ex of 6 years (aries guy). we slept cuddled on his bed and i awoke with kisses and we had sex in the wee hours of the morning.
we've been inseperable after that, he always asks me to come to his place after work (we've got different shifts) and when it's his time to go to work, he allows me to stay on his place. we take meals together and we both check on each other . he usually tells me where he's going and who's he with even if im not asking. we even spend weekends together at his house. and when we're not together, we tie up the phone for hours. he calls and sends me e-mail if he's the one in the office and im left at his house or if im back at my place and vice versa. replies to my text messages seconds after i hit the send button. he never said he liked me so i thought we were slowly getting into the friend zone (which is okay with me).
now, here's the glitch, knowing how leos stay friends with their exes, he had a relationship with a (clingy aries ) girl for a month, he got suffocated, said he's not ready for a commitment and wanted out and he broke up with her 2 months before we met each other. he made it clear that he doesn't know when he'll be ready again and if his ex meets someone else, he's cool with it. i must admit i admire the girls's patience which is not the norm for aries people because she stayed in the background and "is" still waiting for the time he gets ready to pick up where they left off. leo guy feels guilty that his ex fell inlove with her