Virgo woman seeing Leo man

I'm a Virgo sun, Cancer moon, Pisces rising & libra Venus. He's a Leo sun, Leo moon, Capricorn rising, Venus in cancer. We've been seeing each other for about 5 months. He listens to me, gives me the best advice & is always there for me, always caring when I need it. This was enough being that I was going through a lot at the time. Lately I've been having petty arguments with him over him needing to do more for me & he has been unresponsive. But now I'm coming to myself and I know that I'm a giver & that's what I enjoy from my man or whomever I'm dealing with. I don't think it's very important to him or that I'm very important to him. I explained to him that there's no way you can care about someone & not care to do for them. Over time he tells me that he at one point cared about me but he doesn't think he does anymore. I appreciate the honesty, although feelings were slightly hurt because I got comfortable with him. And bc I hold onto people I've imagined one day being with him. So once he told me he doesn't think he cares about me anymore I hung up the phone. I don't know if this is sort of the end or if he just needs space from me.. I just wanna know if anyone thinks he'll come running back to me. I miss him but I won't reach out because he made his decision but I can't help but wonder is it really over?!

"He listens to me, gives me the best advice & is always there for me, always caring when I need it. This was enough being that I was going through a lot at the time."

So he listens to you, gives you the best advice and is always there for you, always caring when you need it........and all of the sudden you want more?

In the words of Gary Barlow "want what you got, then you'll always have enough". More consideration for HIS needs and less greed for yours, please.

Posted by FknNerd

Posted by RemixGeneralFishy
"He listens to me, gives me the best advice & is always there for me, always caring when I need it. This was enough being that I was going through a lot at the time."

So he listens to you, gives you the best advice and is always there for you, always caring when you need it........and all of the sudden you want more?

In the words of Gary Barlow "want what you got, then you'll always have enough". More consideration for HIS needs and less greed for yours, please.

I think you failed at reading it all.

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Didn't need to, I read how it started and alarm bells went off immediately.

Well he just recently reached out to me. lol, i don't think I wanna be as serious with him as it was trying to go. I'm all about seeing other people so responding to him isn't really my priority right now. although I do miss him i think he meant what he said. And he'll have to do a far bit of kissing up to me to get me back around.

*fair

Really want to know what these leo guys think from their side. The future / past posts about them.. this and that... feel sorry for me because... fuk, he did this, so he's a ****. Sick tired from this bs..no body is perfect nor am I. Life is a lesson and not a cartoon you ******* toons..

Well he hurt my feelings by that comment & I'm needy yeah but I know it's only bc I'm willing to do so much for him but I have to make sure he's worth it. Me being prideful is a defense mechanism but he was honestly a wonderful person to me & had a good influence on me & I just can't bear the thought of rekindling with someone who doesn't care about me. We talked tonight & i asked him if I get on his nerves or if he honestly doesn't care about me, he said I get on his nerves & he didn't wanna talk about. But other than that we had a nice hour long conversation. I appreciate him & I'll miss him a lot but I don't think there's any hope for us.

Posted by bubbythewhale1
What have you done for him lately?

I just feel like he should do for me first so that I'll have no doubts that he'll do for me. I'll never give first or simultaneously.

Posted by DivaCanLeo
i know you're type, someone gives you everything, yet you do nothing for them, then you accuse them of doing nothing for you. My Ex did that to me even though i was more then generous and he gave nothing to me, not even emotional security which i sought.

as a Leo moon i think he got your number and i think he knows what's up and good for him for eradicating your needy user azz out of his life.

good for him

You don't know me. I've been taken advantage of all my life because of my generous spirit by friends & family. Because of this one area that I'm very reluctant to give my all to is to my partners until proven worthy or proven to know how to reciprocate. But I'd give him the world if I knew he'd do the same for me.

@OP

I understand where you are coming from. I totally do. I've been there done that. Your situation actually reminds me of how I use to be. And I believe your wants are legitimate, if, he had been your boyfriend. But he's not.

Now reverse your situation. Imagine him demanding you to prove to him your love. But take your pride aside. And take yourself out of your own experiences and own head.

From an outsider perspective I can tell you what it sounds like.

It sounds like this. What he naturally gives is not good enough. Which means he's not worthy until he does more.

And to boot how he feels or thinks about it doesn't matter. It's only your needs and your experiences that matter more because he needs to prove himself first before he can get any more from you.

I understand that you've been hurt. I do. I really do. It makes you very hesitant to give more because you are afraid of getting hurt because you love so deeply. But honey those experiences are a part of life. Every one goes through hurt in their own ways. That's not to diminish your experiences but it's to emphasize that your experiences are not more important than anyone else's experiences.

You shouldn't go around treating people like those who have hurt you. Then it's no better than those who have hurt you and never change their selfish ways because they cannot see beyond their own needs. You can try but trust me (and this comes from very similar experiences) but you might get the love you think you deserve but you will never get to choose who you love demanding the way you do.

Take a good look at your feelings and actions and really question their validity. Pride my dear might protect you from everyone but that's as far as it will get you... distance from everyone and anyone. And when you find yourself alone you will eventually find you will have to tear down that huge wall and it is easier to build than tear down. This is not to berate or tear you down it's just advice coming from similar experiences.

Lastly,

Even if you can't understand why someone worthy of your love wouldn't put your needs first (which is a very entitled position) anyone will tell you why should they?

Have worth is not demanding it my dear. Demanding it is coming from a place of insecurity. Either they do or they don't and if they don't just move on.

P.S. Being an Aries who has dated MANY Leo's plus many Leo friends you CANNOT demand or force them to do anything. Even though they can be very nice and sweet don't take it that they are submissive. No, they are very headstrong and know themselves very well and what they want. This is coming from a stubborn person who is equally headstrong.

Good luck my dear xoxo

P.S.S Even if it's not what you meant this is how it comes off when you demand or expect someone to give a lot before you do. That's like asking for a very large loan with no credit history or proof that you can every pay it back.

PSSS lmao swear this is my last one. In my experience the only guys willing to cater to you like the way you ask you will never respect them. Trust me. I know.

Great responses in this thread.



As for entitled OP...



' Lately I've been having petty arguments with him over him needing to do more for me... '



Like what?

Posted by xtina
PSSS lmao swear this is my last one. In my experience the only guys willing to cater to you like the way you ask you will never respect them. Trust me. I know.

You were such a big help & so understanding!! Like thank you so much & you were literally spot on with everything. I'm hoping to take things slow with him now that I have a better understanding & see where everything goes or if it'll go anywhere at all.

As a Virgo, my best relationship was with a Leo. No man before or after him has ever measured up. He was dependable, giving and always tried to do the right thing. He spoiled me and respected me all the way to the end and after. In my opinion, the other signs don't measure up. Guess I'll go cry now. *sighs*