Friend dilemma for birthday celebration

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Hello everyone and thanks in advance for your responses. I am a March 17th Pisces that is planning a birthday get together at a local pub/restaurant we all hang out at. I have just started hanging around a group of wonderful single ladies that I used to hang out with years ago and have become friends with some new ones in the group.
The problem I have is there is a major feud between the Pisces and the Libra in the group that stems back way before my time with them. I get along with both women soooo well and we totally click but they do not hang out with one another at ALL! I am close to both of them now and want to invite both to my celebration but the Libra has left or not come to some get togethers that she knows the Pisces will be at or is coming to.
Little background: We are all grown women in our 30's and I think this is a bit ridiculous and childish. The Pisces is willing to come to events where the Libra will be and just not interact with her personally. She doesn't want the friendship any longer b/c she thinks the Libra is a drama queen and used to exclude her on purpose from many doings in the past but she doesn't want to cause division in the group.
The Libra is unwilling to do this though. One of our other mutual friends who is a Cancer gave me advice b/c she was having to deal with the same thing and got fed up with feeling like she was excluding one or the other and invited them both to a get together last night and the Libra left when she knew the Pisces was almost there.
I don't like to hurt anyone's feelings and this is MY birthday and I want them both to be there. The Cancer told me I should just call the Libra to at least give her a heads up before I send out the Evite to let her know I am inviting both and that I really want her to be there. I am afraid she will not come and I am friends with a lot of her family as well that I am also inviting. I love both of these women dearly and get along with each of them so well.
What to do...what to do?
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Take the cancer's advice.

My beloved little virgo friend's was best friends with a Pisces girl I couldn't stand. I avoided situations where we were forced together, preferring to get together one on one. I would usually show up for a little bit, hour or so, then leave them to it. It suits me just fine. I am sure the libra will be very happy to get together with you another time to celebrate your birthday or make a brief appearance.

Not sure why you would want to force them together when they really don't like each other. You know? But do follow the cancer's advice and invite her but give her the head's up. It would really hurt if you didn't invite her at all, since she hasn't really done anything wrong. She really just can't tolerate the other woman's presence for whatever reason.

In my case, the Pisces is the most selfish, stupid, shallow, self-absorbed, competitive person I have ever met. Her stupidity enrages me. I simply do not tolerate fools well and she pushes my button big time. Luckily, her true colours are beginning to show and she has lost a lot of her friends (which is very sad) but she has made herself very unwelcome in our circle through her own doing. She has even lost my little virgo friend who is very sad but she was treated so poorly she can't let this girl back in. They were friends for 10+ years. I have no doubt she will make friends whom share her values. These things usually balance out. All of this applies to your situation. Eventually there will be a shift and one of them will leave the group completely or be forced out.

Sorry you feel in the middle of it but the Libra probably has really good reasons for withdrawing. I think it took 1-3 years for people to throw in the towel on the Pisces girl in my group. (except the little virgo who is just seeing the light now.)

It will all work out. It always does. Transitions are just a bit bumpy.
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"Not sure why you would want to force them together when they really don't like each other. You know? But do follow the cancer's advice and invite her but give her the head's up. It would really hurt if you didn't invite her at all, since she hasn't really done anything wrong. She really just can't tolerate the other woman's presence for whatever reason."

I am not trying to force them together. That's my whole dilemma. I am great friends with both and I am planning on inviting them both but that IS the dilemma. Neither one of them have done anything wrong. I am just trying to wrap my brain around her not coming to important events in other friends lives b/c of the other woman who doesn't even talk bad about her behind her back and won't even talk or sit near her at the celebration. There are going to be a lot of people there and it's at a public venue so they really wouldn't have to interact with one another.
I nor the Pisces I am friends with are like what you described the Pisces you had problems with. I am so sorry you had such a bad experience with one like that and do hope that it doesn't bias you towards new Pisces that may come across your path b/c Pisces can be wonderful and selfless friends.
Thank you for your response. It will somehow work out like you said. :-)
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Oh no. Not at all. That Pisces is one of a kind, a real piece of work. lol! I actually have a very sweet acquaintance who shares your birthday. 🙂

I don't always love big group outings and if I know I have to deal with someone whom I don't like, it may put me off. Plus, I am usually a very busy person so I am not always available.

Just invite them both. She will either come or she won't. It is really her problem not yours especially since you are inviting both. You could always just ask her why she always avoids situations where they both will be. She may not be able to answer you at the time, but in a week or two she may phone you out of the blue with an answer. 🙂
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Oh no. Not at all. That Pisces is one of a kind, a real piece of work. lol! I actually have a very sweet acquaintance who shares your birthday. 🙂

I don't always love big group outings and if I know I have to deal with someone whom I don't like, it may put me off. Plus, I am usually a very busy person so I am not always available.

Just invite them both. She will either come or she won't. It is really her problem not yours especially since you are inviting both. You could always just ask her why she always avoids situations where they both will be. She may not be able to answer you at the time, but in a week or two she may phone you out of the blue with an answer. 🙂



Thank you for your input little_sparrow. I really appreciate it. I will just call her first before I send it out to give her a heads up and invite them both. I do understand how hard it can be to be somewhere where there is someone you don't like. I just know that they won't have to interact b/c of the size of the get together and the understanding that the Pisces will NOT do anything to instigate or make her uncomfortable but it is still a difficult situation for both of them as well. I won't be offended or hurt if either one of them don't come b/c I do know that it's not because of me but it's their issue. I just wish they could both be there and I just wish I wasn't having to feel like I have to "choose" between them. I am just not the type of person that wants to hurt other people's feelings and that is why I am having a hard time with this but I must be true to myself and invite both b/c I cannot hurt either one of them on purpose by not inviting both of them.
I am glad you don't harbor bad feelings against all Pisces b/c of the "bad" fish...lol. Have a nice weekend! :-)

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libra will likely be willing to behave herself if you warn her ahead of time and let her know that you really want to have them both there since they are both your friends and that her being there would mean a lot to you.

libras like to make others happy. if she really hates this woman, she probably wouldn't do it generally, but for your birthday she probably would. just make sure that you try to spend a decent chunk of time with her, or at least don't spend more with the pisces. otherwise, she'll end up feeling hurt and unappreciated...because the only reason libras like to make others happy is to feel appreciated.
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libra will likely be willing to behave herself if you warn her ahead of time and let her know that you really want to have them both there since they are both your friends and that her being there would mean a lot to you.

libras like to make others happy. if she really hates this woman, she probably wouldn't do it generally, but for your birthday she probably would. just make sure that you try to spend a decent chunk of time with her, or at least don't spend more with the pisces. otherwise, she'll end up feeling hurt and unappreciated...because the only reason libras like to make others happy is to feel appreciated.



Thank you cv! I did write her a nice email and expressed how much I wanted her to be there and gave her a heads up that the Pisces would be there and she was very nice about it and said "Of course I wouldn't miss your birthday". I will definitely heed your advice though about the time spent with each and the appreciation. I really love these two women and they are great fun to be with so I don't want to jeopardize either friendship! 😄