Greta Thunberg has Saturn in Gemini

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Saturn in Gemini? A marriage of karmik and PR? fated PR? bad in PR and needs lessons in PR?

what do you think?

---------- from her chart:

karmik: Sun, Moon and Mercury in Cap.

karmik & PR-media-com: NN in Gemini

karmik & PR-media-com: Saturn in Gemini

karmik & future-change-technology-associations : NNGem Trine AquaNeptune.

remember: Cap, NN, Saturn, 10th house relate to karmik themes.

25-27th of September: we have Venus square the South Node in Capricorn. With the transient Saturn in Capricorn and at the same degree as the South Node. So her speech might have been toooooo much of karmik (seven times?). The Universe chose her and the day—?
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She's just a puppet in my opinion and a bad one at it.

Her grandpa is/was an actor, as well as her father. That alone makes me ring a bell. Her acting is pretty bad though which is what is weird to me.

Isn't that a manifestation of Saturn in Gemini? Also I read she'd said she has Asperger. Which could be either the same or an additional.
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She's just a puppet in my opinion and a bad one at it.

Her grandpa is/was an actor, as well as her father. That alone makes me ring a bell. Her acting is pretty bad though which is what is weird to me.

Isn't that a manifestation of Saturn in Gemini? Also I read she'd said she has Asperger. Which could be either the same or an additional.
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Yes, if you want to stick to astrology. Cap women in particular have a stronger psychic/emotional connection to their fathers than others since they're ruled by Saturn (the father). I don't know her house placements but the fact she has Sun and Moon (public) in Cap and Saturn in Gem, could indicate her identity (sun) and public persona (moon) are both defined by what her actor father (Saturn) communicates to her (Gemini). My bet is she will only be able to free herself from her dad's influence after her first Saturn Return.
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

yes, this one is true.

I had once noticed that Luther, the Reformer, had planets in Cap and Scorp. But today astrotheme shows only Scorpio. Maybe my memory is just weak. maybe they just corrected or incorrected the date.
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

She wrote something saying she isn’t a puppet and her parents aren’t involved and she’s on the autism spectrum.

What’s the truth then?
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Don't know "the truth", like I said before it's just my opinion. I think her dad is being paid big money by rich and powerful climate loonies to use her as a puppet.

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Nah, she just hits most of the checkmarks for a good story and lucked out with her topic, a general media interest and enough conflict about this issue.

And so much conviction it makes her angry. Weird to me that people see that and think she’s a puppet.
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Anger or too serious? or playing too serious?

"Gemini Saturn is very serious, .... Nervous strain can be a problem if they don't learn to let go of tension. They don't like to chitchat, and they dislike superficiality."

From https://www.alwaysastrology.com/saturn-in-gemini.html
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

She wrote something saying she isn’t a puppet and her parents aren’t involved and she’s on the autism spectrum.

What’s the truth then?

Don't know "the truth", like I said before it's just my opinion. I think her dad is being paid big money by rich and powerful climate loonies to use her as a puppet.
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You're way too paranoid. Both her mother and father are actors/celebs. Also it's clear she's an old person trapped in a young body. You can't fake that.

She's an aspie and as aspies go, it's all tunnel vision; environment just happens to be her passion.

I'm not saying her parents aren't environment loons and sparked fear into their aspie child when she was younger, but they definitely didn't "put her up to it". That's all her in her aspie glory.
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Saturn in Gemini

- cool and rational in the face of adversity. ... excellent powers of reasoning ....

- difficulty at first in learning situations, but once a lesson is learned, they never forget.

- may have difficulties early in life with communication.

- good head for business. ... talent for cutting through to the hard facts.

- very serious

- very organized ... very nitpicky about details on projects.

- stable.

- tend to feel isolated.

- must learn to keep a positive attitude and have faith in themselves.

- Nervous strain can be a problem if they don't learn to let go of tension.

- don't like to chitchat, ... dislike superficiality.

- relate best to logical thinking and ideas.

- weak point is the lungs. The throat may also be afflicted as the center of speech.

- need to learn that challenges mean opportunity.

- Negative thinking is one challenge faced

- difficulty relating to family, both mentally and physically.

Source: https://www.alwaysastrology.com/saturn-in-gemini.html
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

She wrote something saying she isn’t a puppet and her parents aren’t involved and she’s on the autism spectrum.

What’s the truth then?

Don't know "the truth", like I said before it's just my opinion. I think her dad is being paid big money by rich and powerful climate loonies to use her as a puppet.

You're way too paranoid. Both her mother and father are actors/celebs. Also it's clear she's an old person trapped in a young body. You can't fake that.

She's an aspie and as aspies go, it's all tunnel vision; environment just happens to be her passion.

I'm not saying her parents aren't environment loons and sparked fear into their aspie child when she was younger, but they definitely didn't "put her up to it". That's all her in her aspie glory.
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Sure you could have made your point without attacking me?

You have as much proof to back up what you are claiming as I do, so if you call me paranoid, I might as well call you gullible and naive for buying into the quintessential sob story that is this girl.

Did you know the reason people believe her story is the same reason people go to the movies?
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Nah, she just hits most of the checkmarks for a good story and lucked out with her topic, a general media interest and enough conflict about this issue.

And so much conviction it makes her angry. Weird to me that people see that and think she’s a puppet.

Anger or too serious? or playing too serious?

"Gemini Saturn is very serious, .... Nervous strain can be a problem if they don't learn to let go of tension. They don't like to chitchat, and they dislike superficiality."

From https://www.alwaysastrology.com/saturn-in-gemini.html

Yes, angry. We all should be. I'm mostly not because I'm going to die before things get too bad, and the rest of you can sit around and wish you'd listened to the aspie kid.

It's sad we have to force people to listen to that aspie kid instead of listening to scientists all along.
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The thing is that even science is strongly divided on the issue.

So unless we get an unanimous stand from science at some point, this whole thing is reduced to a 'choose your flavour' type of issue.
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Nah, she just hits most of the checkmarks for a good story and lucked out with her topic, a general media interest and enough conflict about this issue.

And so much conviction it makes her angry. Weird to me that people see that and think she’s a puppet.

Anger or too serious? or playing too serious?

"Gemini Saturn is very serious, .... Nervous strain can be a problem if they don't learn to let go of tension. They don't like to chitchat, and they dislike superficiality."

From https://www.alwaysastrology.com/saturn-in-gemini.html

Yes, angry. We all should be. I'm mostly not because I'm going to die before things get too bad, and the rest of you can sit around and wish you'd listened to the aspie kid.
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I agree with angry now. just noticed the Mars and Venus in Scorpio. The two placements of my sister.

ok, let's say SERIOUSLY ANGRY.
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

She wrote something saying she isn’t a puppet and her parents aren’t involved and she’s on the autism spectrum.

What’s the truth then?

Don't know "the truth", like I said before it's just my opinion. I think her dad is being paid big money by rich and powerful climate loonies to use her as a puppet.

You're way too paranoid. Both her mother and father are actors/celebs. Also it's clear she's an old person trapped in a young body. You can't fake that.

She's an aspie and as aspies go, it's all tunnel vision; environment just happens to be her passion.

I'm not saying her parents aren't environment loons and sparked fear into their aspie child when she was younger, but they definitely didn't "put her up to it". That's all her in her aspie glory.

Sure you could have made your point without attacking me?

You have as much proof to back up what you are claiming as I do, so if you call me paranoid, I might as well call you gullible and naive for buying into the quintessential sob story that is this girl.

Did you know the reason people believe her story is the same reason people go to the movies?
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Well since I live in Sweden Im pretty sure I have more background and am more informed cuz we actually have to listen to it almost every day while to you it's just snippets from the evening news.

Your input sounds more like that of one of those uninformed mofos in comment sections who just drops bombs cuz he can't stand her face. Rest assured I'm one of those mofos, but still, I have to call it bs when i see it.. No one put her up to anything.
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Also consider the current transits of Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn. Powerful times for Capricorns to rise to power.

She wrote something saying she isn’t a puppet and her parents aren’t involved and she’s on the autism spectrum.

What’s the truth then?

Don't know "the truth", like I said before it's just my opinion. I think her dad is being paid big money by rich and powerful climate loonies to use her as a puppet.

You're way too paranoid. Both her mother and father are actors/celebs. Also it's clear she's an old person trapped in a young body. You can't fake that.

She's an aspie and as aspies go, it's all tunnel vision; environment just happens to be her passion.

I'm not saying her parents aren't environment loons and sparked fear into their aspie child when she was younger, but they definitely didn't "put her up to it". That's all her in her aspie glory.

Sure you could have made your point without attacking me?

You have as much proof to back up what you are claiming as I do, so if you call me paranoid, I might as well call you gullible and naive for buying into the quintessential sob story that is this girl.

Did you know the reason people believe her story is the same reason people go to the movies?

Well since I live in Sweden Im pretty sure I have more background and am more informed cuz we actually have to listen to it almost every day while to you it's just snippets from the evening news.

Your input sounds more like that of one of those uninformed mofos in comment sections who just drops bombs cuz he can't stand her face. Rest assured I'm one of those mofos, but still, I have to call it bs when i see it.. No one put her up to anything.
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Ok, do tell us more about her background than what media outside of Sweden have told us then, enlighten us oh great one!

You're aware these days mass media news from virtually every single Western country come from the same source aren't you?

Unless you know the girl personally and her family, you don't know jack, dude.

Which I'm pretty sure you don't.
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Nah, she just hits most of the checkmarks for a good story and lucked out with her topic, a general media interest and enough conflict about this issue.

And so much conviction it makes her angry. Weird to me that people see that and think she’s a puppet.

Anger or too serious? or playing too serious?

"Gemini Saturn is very serious, .... Nervous strain can be a problem if they don't learn to let go of tension. They don't like to chitchat, and they dislike superficiality."

From https://www.alwaysastrology.com/saturn-in-gemini.html

Yes, angry. We all should be. I'm mostly not because I'm going to die before things get too bad, and the rest of you can sit around and wish you'd listened to the aspie kid.

I agree with angry now. just noticed the Mars and Venus in Scorpio. The two placements of my sister.

ok, let's say SERIOUSLY ANGRY.

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She reminds me of a character from the show, Vikings, but not one of the Vikings. She's like the French princess.

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or Joan of Arc 😄

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc
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Ok, do tell us more about her background than what media outside of Sweden have told us then, enlighten us oh great one!

You're aware these days mass media news from virtually every single Western country come from the same source aren't you?

Unless you know the girl personally and her family, you don't know jack, dude.

Which I'm pretty sure you don't.

Western media focuses on sensationalism. I'm talking about investigative journalism. Those reports rarely make it to outsiders bc all western media focuses on sensationalism. Note how they will plant a seed of her being coerced into it yet they'll never get back to that at a later point when Swedish journalists have investigated it in some special news report or docu and it turns out 'Nope, she's just a snowflake aspie'.

You are so naive.
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I'm loving how much white men are being threatened by a 16 year old girl.

Literally, supposedly "well educated" and "intelligent" men reduce themselves to petty, high school-grade name calling.

Her Saturn is at 24° and Trump's Sun at 22°56' almost 23°.

I think he notices the pressure of a higher instance. And his Sag Moon does not like it. To be taught the hard way.
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It's sad we have to force people to listen to that aspie kid instead of listening to scientists all along.

The thing is that even science is strongly divided on the issue.

So unless we get an unanimous stand from science at some point, this whole thing is reduced to a 'choose your flavour' type of issue.
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That I can co-sign.
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Ok, do tell us more about her background than what media outside of Sweden have told us then, enlighten us oh great one!

You're aware these days mass media news from virtually every single Western country come from the same source aren't you?

Unless you know the girl personally and her family, you don't know jack, dude.

Which I'm pretty sure you don't.

Western media focuses on sensationalism. I'm talking about investigative journalism. Those reports rarely make it to outsiders bc all western media focuses on sensationalism. Note how they will plant a seed of her being coerced into it yet they'll never get back to that at a later point when Swedish journalists have investigated it in some special news report or docu and it turns out 'Nope, she's just a snowflake aspie'.

You are so naive.
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LOL

Please go and do a quick research of which channel broadcasts those "investigative journalism works"

After that go do another quick research of who owns that channel and what their political affiliations are.

I'll give you the answer even before looking into it:

It will be either the state or some mega media concern.

Choose your flavour. Who do you want to believe?

That is all what this discussion comes down to.
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Ok, do tell us more about her background than what media outside of Sweden have told us then, enlighten us oh great one!

You're aware these days mass media news from virtually every single Western country come from the same source aren't you?

Unless you know the girl personally and her family, you don't know jack, dude.

Which I'm pretty sure you don't.

Western media focuses on sensationalism. I'm talking about investigative journalism. Those reports rarely make it to outsiders bc all western media focuses on sensationalism. Note how they will plant a seed of her being coerced into it yet they'll never get back to that at a later point when Swedish journalists have investigated it in some special news report or docu and it turns out 'Nope, she's just a snowflake aspie'.

You are so naive.

LOL

Please go and do a quick research of which channel broadcasts those "investigative journalism works"

After that go do another quick research of who owns that channel and what their political affiliations are.

I'll give you the answer even before looking into it:

It will be either the state or some mega media concern.

Choose your flavour. Who do you want to believe?

That is all what this discussion comes down to.
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what happens if 99% of the materialists, capitalists, consumists choose the same flavour?

like: they don't want to stop consuming. versus the lefties need to feel guilty for any shit.

wouldn't the scientists be dependent on the budgets they get for research and saying, "nah, all is ok?".

and aren't we passed all these lines? what do they do in the UN if not doing independent reasearch? why there's always climate politic conference if that is a hoax? which industry pays the politicians to do as if they care for the Earth?
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Ok, do tell us more about her background than what media outside of Sweden have told us then, enlighten us oh great one!

You're aware these days mass media news from virtually every single Western country come from the same source aren't you?

Unless you know the girl personally and her family, you don't know jack, dude.

Which I'm pretty sure you don't.

Western media focuses on sensationalism. I'm talking about investigative journalism. Those reports rarely make it to outsiders bc all western media focuses on sensationalism. Note how they will plant a seed of her being coerced into it yet they'll never get back to that at a later point when Swedish journalists have investigated it in some special news report or docu and it turns out 'Nope, she's just a snowflake aspie'.

You are so naive.

LOL

Please go and do a quick research of which channel broadcasts those "investigative journalism works"

After that go do another quick research of who owns that channel and what their political affiliations are.

I'll give you the answer even before looking into it:

It will be either the state or some mega media concern.

Choose your flavour. Who do you want to believe?

That is all what this discussion comes down to.

What motivation would this girl have to be a puppet who is faking it? Do you know any 16-year-olds? It's hard for me to imagine a 16-year-old being a willing tool in this unless she does, indeed, care. What would she get out of it? Her parents' praise? Okay. All parents teach their kids their own values. It doesn't mean the kids don't truly hold the same values.
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We live in an era where the youth's overwhelmingly main concern is their phone and their online persona. "Look at me and make me famous" is what their wildest dreams are made of.

So what motivation would this girl have to NOT do it?

Aside from all that, when did we start thinking it was a good idea to listen to kids' advice on how to run this world or how to save the planet when they aren't old enough to even know how to run their own lives or how to survive on their own?

Maybe after she becomes 25 (when her prefrontal cortex fully develops), I'll start listening to her. Otherwise, let teens be teens and adults be adults.
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Nah, she just hits most of the checkmarks for a good story and lucked out with her topic, a general media interest and enough conflict about this issue.

but what you say is a PR effort by definition. Isn't it?

media <-> Gemini

It is but that wasn't my point. She is a child with an ailmant who speaks up about an issue that has been known for more than 40 years and happen to be the newest tool of the political left against conservatives and far rights.

It's a story that write itself and has practically everything new editors can wish for. Especially since she apparently was born into a family with a network that could help her.

I'm not saying that what she does isn't her own work or anything, I just disagree with the thesis that she has great PR skills. Her first NY thing was pretty underwhleming and got mostly carried by the hype the european journalists who accompanied her brought with them.
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ah, ok. good answer.

meaning it is not that natal placement lead to something (causality). more it is like synchronicity. Big PR falls on the person with SatGem plust Cap Stelium. Tradition etc.
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Please go and do a quick research of which channel broadcasts those "investigative journalism works"

After that go do another quick research of who owns that channel and what their political affiliations are.

I'll give you the answer even before looking into it:

It will be either the state or some mega media concern.

Investigative 'state-run' journalism doesn't really benefit from coming to either conclusion. It just happens to be the truth and quite a boring one, as oppose to if her parents in fact were demons. They've covered way more controversial stuff and come to both politically correct aswell as -incorrect conclusions backed by evidence so I'm pretty confident in the conclusions I draw by listening to them.

Also, any other journalist from any other publication in Sweden is free to angle it any way they please, in fact it could earn them some merit points to come to a different conclusion. Such thing has not yet happened.

But say you are right, for the sake of the argument. My judgement and conclusion is at least based on something while yours is taken out of the air. So it's not really a case of my opinions vs. yours. It's a case of a bit more informed vs  opinions.

Say didn't you once claim you don't own a tv in your home of eternal happiness, that you barely use your phone/internet... so where do you find enlightenment in these matters? In your heart?
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Her biggest natal influence is probably all the alcohol her mom seems to have ingested while she was pregnant

Oh snap.
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interesting hint. thank to both.

she has Neptune in Trine with her Nord Node. (the only one aspect to Neptune. 12th house is not known.)

Aqua Neptune 9 degree. Gemini!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8 degree.

(Why am I so blind these days? Am I already 100?)

well, she is THE ONE. sent to save the Earth. (sorry men, I know you don't like female prophetes)
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"Her biggest natal influence is probably all the alcohol her mom seems to have ingested while she was pregnant."

Lilith in the Taurian 12th house according to Astrotheme. But her Neptune trines her NN.

NN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in Gemini!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neptune in Aqua

So everything is screaming: Karmik duty: Public Relation. reasoning. idealism. future. science. technology. media. communication.

Karmik factors: Capricorn Stellium. Saturn. NN
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Why do Astrotheme display no AC, but saves a chart with AC?

Is it why they say Astrology is not a precise science?

you can analyse with houses as much as you want. but then they come and change the birth time and everything you told is your own phantasy all of a sudden.

I guess Astrotheme is about to change the birth time for Greta, so that her MC is CAP too. so she enjoys 4 karmik factors. if not more.