Primer

Nourish the nerd in you.


A cool indie.

i saw something you wrote about this movie on the cap board and it intrigued me, so i rented it. i'm gonna watch it sometime in the next couple days & i'll letya know what i think.

yesssssss! i love you.

i watched it a 2nd time. it's a little slow at first, but the payoff is fuckin awesomeness.

went to the official web page and read about the writer/director/actor/cinematographer. the man is near genius. i want his babies.

total budget was only $ 7000. can you believe that? i gotta meet this guy.

hahaha...wow, ok, i'm pretty stoked i rented it

hrmmmmz....veddy intewestink. i'm not really sure what to think of it. i agree with you that it is a cool movie...but i'm not quite sure what the significance is supposed to be. that we should be scared if a couple of immature idiots accidentally discover a time machine? i didn't need a movie to tell me that. 😛

Hm, apparently I watched it about a year ago. It was alright, I guess. Didn't leave much of an impression.

m'kay. well, now i feel like a superdork.

i was trying to construct my own timeline, when i stumbled upon these:

Except here, I believe that Abe should be Abe2, and Abe2, Abe3

This is very well put together, but I'm not certain it is this complicated.

And I think it's definitely Aaron #3 who is building the massive box at the end.

Anywho...

With regards to how the box actually works. Tell me if this is wrong. Um, my understanding is that they use superconductors to block gravity, thus intercepting the magnetic field in which force/momentum propels us forward in time. Sort of like creating a vacuum, or parallel universe.

So when they enter the box at Point A, the opposite bound is Point B. Probability says they could exit at either end- this usually ends up being point B. They exit at some point in time, which could be anywhere from the time it starts to the time they entered. It is not that they are getting into the box and "going backward". they move forward in the context of the simulated universe, but will arrive at any point in time (unsually point B) within "our" multidimensional atmosphere. so, they get into the vacuum, and exit at any (theoretically) random coordinate, after which the expelled mass must align itself with "our" universe.

idk if that makes sense. it makes sense in my head.

ok, hold on, i'm not sure i'm understanding what you're saying, so i'm going to try and explain what i gathered and you can tell me if it matches:

the machine they created is actually meant to reduce an object's weight, so they are essentially reducing the gravity in the box. i'm not exactly sure how they accomplish this, because i definitely don't know enough about physics, but it looks like they use a combination of electric charge and that gas (can't remember the name).

within the box, a parabolic cycle of time is created that continuously loops around. point a being the point the machine is set, point b being the other end of that loop, when the set amount of time is up. the figurine doesn't have the intelligence to enter or exit the box so it just gets thrown around as the cycles continue.

what aaron and abe do is...let's say they set the clock for 4:00 pm (point a). then they have to wait around as their current selves for the amount of time they want to be in the box for. (hence the getting the hotel room for 6 hrs.) then they get in the box at 10:00 (this is point b), six hours after they originally set the machine. they stay in the box for six hours and exit again at 4:00 pm (point a). this is what they keep doing throughout the movie. so their doubles are actually their former selves, not their future selves. they can only technically go back in time.

as far as the message.

well, if you go by the interview of the film's creator, you might say it is about the fragility of relationships. they start out as a group of four, then separate into two. abe and aaron are similar in name, stature, and intelligence. in the end, jealousy and deception drive a wedge b/w them. in the airport scene, aaron sarcastically advises abe to bring aaron's wife and child into the box with him, that way he can have his own set. abe did not have the family- the security that aaron appeared to have. perhaps he longed for that. he scolded aaron for jeapordizing it (at the water fountain scene).

but even aaron wasn't content. his seemingly satisfying life was not enough. as evidenced by his numerous trips into the box.

exactly, poo.

except, point B is 4:00 pm, b/c it's where they exit.

you could also say this is a story about power and limitations.

one would think that the more power you have, the fewer restrictions. but as we see in this film, this just isn't so. the majority of the movie is power play b/w the two guys. each trying to get one up on the other, not to mention themselves. aaron wins unfortunately.

nuh-uhhhhh! 4:00 is point a, they exit at point a! point b would be 10:00

you enter at point A (10), exit at point B (4).

odd number of cycles.

point a is always the original time that they set it for, so they would always enter at point b and exit at point a, but i love you anyways notso even though we can't agree

😢

to canada we go!

pack your shyt, poo.

our current selves or the doubles?

bad joke, i know, very bad - but ok, adios america!

lololll