“How to avoid being cancelled due to association”

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It’s interesting in the light of the me too movement as well as other cases where individuals were exposed to be terrible people that is when the in their people try to disassociate themselves from those people.

It makes sense because no one wants to be associated with a rapist or a serial killer or an abuser who is known publicly known for being those things etc…

But in a lot of cases I really think that people knew about the bad behavior before in came into public light or at the very least their were signs and they simply turned a blind eye…because they didn’t want the social dynamic or the relationship or image of they had with that person to change.

I think about how many people might have been saved from being murdered or raped or abused for example if more people spoke out and against the bad behavior perpetrated by people they know.



Thoughts?
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One specific instance came to mind that illustrates my point is regarding the Ken and Barbie murders about a Blonde Canadian couple that were serial rapists and murderers of numerous young women in the late 80s/early 90s..

They had a mutual friend apparently who had witnessed verbal and physical abuse committed by the male counterpart of the serial killer couple one random afternoon at their home.

Later we ( as the audience and him ) find out it was also likely that he at their home when there were times that also had women trapped in the basement.

He regrets not doing more when he first witness the couple’s violent home life.
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Posted by Walk_on_by
How's he supposed to know that they're serial killers simply because the mans abusive, and how's it change anything If he reported him being abusive in the 80s/90s nothing was happening at all. The dude has to live with that till he dies but really he did nothing at all and could not have done anything, he's simply another victim by collateral damage.


You’re right it is not his fault as he did not commit the crimes himself.

The point of the reference is that this man knew something was wrong and wished he had said something . We don’t know if he would have went to the police and said he witnessed an assault if anything would have been done that prevented future rapes and murders but it is something he himself wonders about.

Moreover the second point of why I referenced this story is that this man also feels guilty for not cutting ties from that person and couple as whole earlier.

It’s sad but people always wonder how someone could be friends or even marry someone with like that and view people like him as guilty via association..which I don’t think is entirely fair

But I do think there are cases in which people shouldn’t wait to cut ties with bad actors ( i.e witnessing those bad actors commit physical or sexual violence ). A lot of time people are enabling bad actors by turning away and continuing to have relationships with these people.
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People tend to hope that those type of people change for the better. Or that they think the situations will improve if they give it enough time.

And yet they never do. They only get worse.

Doesn't stop people from believing...
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Yeah because they want to believe.

People believe because they want to believe even if all the evidence points to why they shouldn’t.

I think we all want to believe at the end of the day that people in our lives are fundamentally good even when or after they have done terrible things to us or other people.

I think betrayal blindness is what this concept is called.

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Posted by poppyflower
Posted by Walk_on_by
How's he supposed to know that they're serial killers simply because the mans abusive, and how's it change anything If he reported him being abusive in the 80s/90s nothing was happening at all. The dude has to live with that till he dies but really he did nothing at all and could not have done anything, he's simply another victim by collateral damage.

If he could have presented evidence of that physical abuse to the police, would that have changed anything? 🤔
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Spoiler alert if you ever watch the docuseries which I highly recommend ….

is it is when his wife came in to the police station after an evening of severe physical abuse

When she also shared to the police about her husbands past murders and rapes .

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But to more directly respond while yes we don’t know but in theory if he were arrested earlier then perhaps his last victim or two might have lived.