Broke Up With Pisces Woman, 2nd Chance?

Ok, This is a bit of a strange one. My understanding is that there is no second chance with a Pisces Lady. But... I have to ask.

I contacted her on Match the week before Christmas. She was traveling in Europe until first week of January. Started with a few messages and quickly got more serious. I sent her a message every morning and every night wishing positive things. During the few hours we where both awake at the same time, we would send about 5 or more messages a day. She is Russian originally. We got to calling each other "Darling", "beloved" and a cultural name that means "Beloved" in some Arab cultures (she has ties to many cultures).

I was looking for a good match for me. I'm an Aries on the cusp of Taurus. Mostly with Taurus traits (if you ask me). That cusp seems to go well with Pisces, Libra, Taurus, Cancer and Virgo. I met a Virgo and she was too much like me. I'm analytical. I wanted someone more otherworldly. Someone who sees thing beyond the obvious. A woman with emotion, sensitivity and creativity. I did a lot of reading about Pisces (please don't take that the wrong way, I'm aware there is no manual and Pisces is hard to define and they are, you know, PEOPLE. I say it to indicate that I wanted to try and understand their point of view and if it was generally compatible). I also looked up a lot of information about Russian dating culture. I'm going as myself, all the way. I saw no need to hide anything, but also to be sensitive to what she may need or expect. I didn't see anything that would be a conflict with my natural personality. But it did show that positive attitude and romantic gestures are important and appreciated. The she might like gestures that show I'm thinking about her and I support her. And she very much did. I like to do that anyway, but it let me know that was welcome and not seen as clingy.

As soon as she got back and had a day to rest from the time difference, we had our date. Very nice and cozy upscale Italian restaurant. Because things had gotten more serious in the messages, I got her a dozen roses (and took one out because Russian culture likes the odd number, not an even number). Got her chocolates. I waited by the door of the restaurant, roses behind my back. I left the chocolates at her place at the table. When she came it (predictably late and I never said a word), I gave her the flowers and a hug and that became kissing immediately (she initiated, wasn't expecting that). She loved the flowers. Went to the table, she was surprised with the chocolates (gifts for dates is expected in Russian culture). We held hands with both hands (for the whole date except when eating and quickly came back to it whenever possible) and talked for an hour before ordering. Lots of kissing and she initiated, its clear now not fear of PDA. The waiter was excellent, he just let us know to let him know when we were ready to order. Turned into a 3 hour date. When the calamari came, she fed me some and I fed her. After dinner we opened the chocolates and shared them. Shared them with a kiss and splitting them in half (I'm probably not explaining this right, we basically split them with a kiss, shared them simultaneously) Fabulous.

I walked her to her car, lots of kissing, hugs. I asked her how to properly pronounce the Arab name for beloved she always called me. She said we were past that and she has a new name for me. She would tell me about it next time.

Best date ever.

Well, the next day there was a confrontation at my job. They wanted me to pay travel expenses myself. Long story short, this was on top of many other issues with them. I resigned.

When I told her, it was a problem. She spent several days away with friends (I was supposed to be travelling for work the day after we met) and she called me several times. She was very worried about it. I didn't realize she was actually wealthy and she had a big problem with it. She always wanted to talk about my plan. What was I going to do now. I'm in sales and it's not that simple.

She texted me about 5 days later saying she just couldn't deal with it. She worked hard to get where she was and she was afraid of losing it. Didn't want to be a sugar momma (Don't know where that came from, she drove a Mercedes, I was actually worried she might be in heavy debt).

So I texted back, "Ok. Still was the best date ever. I don't agree this will affect you in any way. But if that's how you feel, I can't change that. I wish you well" She continued to text me back and forth many times for the next 15 minutes or so. I kept telling her its Ok. I told her I wouldn't bug her, I was sad, but I could take it.

And that hurt for several weeks, but I never contacted her. I have had this really strange feeling that this isn't done yet. I didn't cheat or wrong her or say anything insensitive. Didn't criticize her or say anything negative.

So it's been 3 weeks and I'm pretty much just dealing with the gap of having had someone to care about and now there's just a void were that person was. It was just one date, but it was also 3 weeks of 6 to 12 messages a day communication. Not exactly a big relationship.

But I just have this nagging feeling, an intuition, that says she's going to call me. I have been focusing more on trying to see things beyond the analytical world. And I feel this very strongly, envision it all.

So I got my new job and I had entertained reaching out to her. But I didn't, I deleted her number to keep from being tempted. I told her I wouldn't pester her and I won't. I promised.

Since I do not believe she left for anything that was an affront to her sensitivity, is there any chance she might reach out to me someday?

Thanks Cvurko!

I think you're right that there was an issue there. And it could be cultural. In readying about Russian dating there was one quote that came up that the average Russian woman "is a security seeking missile". Once again, I take such information with a grain of salt, but it is consistent with what I experienced. There are times when I have the usual "dump-ee" feelings (where you look past anything they did and just want them back) and there are others when I try to move past being dumped and ask myself that same question. I was offended by the sugar mama thing, but I have thick skin. Is that a materialistic tendency she will be always dragging along with her?

She spent a long time alone, healing from the last situation. She is attractive and can have any man she wants, but she gave me the impression that I "get" her more than anyone had. That's a rare thing.

She gave me a list of 30 things she was looking for in a man, early on. It was a list of everything that had been a problem in other relationships. We matched up really well. Only things that concerned me were she wanted to pool money and that she was very obsessed with high fashion and liked to travel in style . The pooling of our money actually gave was a bit of a flag. It still doesn't make sense, she wanted a man who would "support her economically". But she's "A wealthy woman" (her words what went next to "I don't want to be a sugar mama" when breaking up). Why stipulate to pool money if you're already wealthy? I've been looking past that, but that might be a mistake.

So yeah, I promised no contact on my own. I texted her a few days after she said she needed space saying "I can see 3 choices. Continue, Wait a little, or End it. Which way do you want to go? I can handle it, I brought my big boy pants with me just in case." And I mentioned I wouldn't whine or bug her, I can handle it. About 2 days later she said texted to end it, very thoughtfully, very sorry.

The only part I haven't moved on with is this feeling it's not over. I'm a big believer in thinking positive. I feel I have to let that go to move on. But that by not being positive, I'll actually kill that possibility.

Well said! That's why I was focused on the odds of her reaching out to me. It would go a long way to indicating there was something there beyond money. Then I would focus on how much of that conversation was about money. But any scenario where I reach out to her breaks my word and makes flushing out her money motivations more difficult.

Ok, so I texted her Saturday. She was happy to here from me, but kept it to text. I didn't push. I'm trying to bring it to a phone conversation when she's ready. Don't want to crowd her. Back to texting her good morning and goodnight. But she's too busy to respond in the day. Superbowl party, went to a movie and dinner with friends. Comedy club with friends. Could all be just her swimming away, but she responds. I was thinking today, screw this. But... She was like this when she was thinking about breaking up. Evasive. Brief contact. She was making up her mind. But at the same time I'm losing respect for myself. Patience? Any advice would be helpful.

I know pushing is bad. So I had another thought of just skipping a good morning message (she loved those, I would say positive things about the day and she said she always liked that). But here's the thing. I'm really bloody boring right now. She only does quick responses, like when were breaking up. I try to get into deeper topics (which she used to respond to) but she ignores them. Doesn't make time at any point to address them. How do I get more interesting? How do I surprise her?

Thanks! I'll be patient. The aries side of me surfaces in these moments. I asked her if she thinks about me, she said she does. I did say I wanted to talk things over and she ignored it. Your words are wise.

I remember when I lost my job for the first time, I was dating my scorp ex. I was deathly afraid of it would have affect our relationship. I've never talked to him about that. Now thinking how much we missed, our conversations always has been blank, just words, we've never truly understand each other, maybe we never even tried,we were strangers, somehow connected to one another. It's sad.

As for your situation it feels weird, you can't just erase person from your memory, especially someone you like. Depends how she has been raised and her natal chart. I do hope she comes back and wish you two all the best

She hit me up on Facetime. We talked briefly, but things moving in a positive direction. Happy happy happy!!!

Ok, so this is what happened. She was with a guy for 10 years. Broke up eight months ago. He broke her heart and owes her a huge amount of money she gave him for a business investment. The premise he left under was that he wanted kids and she's in the mid-40s, like me. She spent a ton of money on fertility treatments and he gave up after barely starting. So that was 6 months ago. So the money issue was because she was burned before. After she broke up with me, she found him on a dating site going after 27 year olds. She's been crying for weeks before I reached out.

Her first email contact with me said she thought she was ready to try again. She shined brightly on our first date. I think she is ready because of that, it was a 3 hour date. She was completely engaged with me the whole time. I think she can get past this.

Late Sunday night she invited me to her place on the spur of the moment for a glass of wine. Some kissing, lots of cuddling. It was the first time Id seen her in a month. It was good, the romantic aspect was not the same, very suppressed. Some light kisses. She knows I don't want to become a friend and she said she doesn't want me to be that either.

She was asked to take a leave of absence and go home for a few months to Russia. This is partially because she relapsed and she was like this earlier in the year. Her employer wants her to get her head together.

But she's a Pisces. So she's really got a huge burden of sadness with this.

My question is, given that he wronged her in several ways and that she was free of it on our first date, is it reasonable to have hope she can get past this in a few months (and hopefully not years).

What can I do to help? I send her very positive good morning texts and good night texts every day. And I text during the day to let her know she's on my mind. I was concerned that might seem clingy, but she has told me she absolutely loves that.

I was thinking the best cure for her would be to fall in love again, but the Pisces emotional level is matching it's legendary intensity. I don't know if that's feasible. My take is she was over it and this is just a relapse. Or am I trying to hold back the tide?

Posted by MojoJojo8
Ok, This is a bit of a strange one. My understanding is that there is no second chance with a Pisces Lady. But... I have to ask.

I contacted her on Match the week before Christmas. She was traveling in Europe until first week of January. Started with a few messages and quickly got more serious. I sent her a message every morning and every night wishing positive things. During the few hours we where both awake at the same time, we would send about 5 or more messages a day. She is Russian originally. We got to calling each other "Darling", "beloved" and a cultural name that means "Beloved" in some Arab cultures (she has ties to many cultures).

I was looking for a good match for me. I'm an Aries on the cusp of Taurus. Mostly with Taurus traits (if you ask me). That cusp seems to go well with Pisces, Libra, Taurus, Cancer and Virgo. I met a Virgo and she was too much like me. I'm analytical. I wanted someone more otherworldly. Someone who sees thing beyond the obvious. A woman with emotion, sensitivity and creativity. I did a lot of reading about Pisces (please don't take that the wrong way, I'm aware there is no manual and Pisces is hard to define and they are, you know, PEOPLE. I say it to indicate that I wanted to try and understand their point of view and if it was generally compatible). I also looked up a lot of information about Russian dating culture. I'm going as myself, all the way. I saw no need to hide anything, but also to be sensitive to what she may need or expect. I didn't see anything that would be a conflict with my natural personality. But it did show that positive attitude and romantic gestures are important and appreciated. The she might like gestures that show I'm thinking about her and I support her. And she very much did. I like to do that anyway, but it let me know that was welcome and not seen as clingy.

As soon as she got back and had a day to rest from the time difference, we had our date. Very nice and cozy upscale Italian restaurant. Because things had gotten more serious in the messages, I got her a dozen roses (and took one out because Russian culture likes the odd number, not an even number). Got her chocolates. I waited by the door of the restaurant, roses behind my back. I left the chocolates at her place at the table. When she came it (predictably late and I never said a word), I gave her the flowers and a hug and that became kissing immediately (she initiated, wasn't expecting that). She loved the flowers. Went to the table, she was surprised with the chocolates (gifts for dates is expected in Russian culture). We held hands with both hands (for the whole date except when eating and quickly came back to it whenever possible) and talked for an hour before ordering. Lots of kissing and she initiated, its clear now not fear of PDA. The waiter was excellent, he just let us know to let him know when we were ready to order. Turned into a 3 hour date. When the calamari came, she fed me some and I fed her. After dinner we opened the chocolates and shared them. Shared them with a kiss and splitting them in half (I'm probably not explaining this right, we basically split them with a kiss, shared them simultaneously) Fabulous.

I walked her to her car, lots of kissing, hugs. I asked her how to properly pronounce the Arab name for beloved she always called me. She said we were past that and she has a new name for me. She would tell me about it next time.

Best date ever.

Well, the next day there was a confrontation at my job. They wanted me to pay travel expenses myself. Long story short, this was on top of many other issues with them. I resigned.

When I told her, it was a problem. She spent several days away with friends (I was supposed to be travelling for work the day after we met) and she called me several times. She was very worried about it. I didn't realize she was actually wealthy and she had a big problem with it. She always wanted to talk about my plan. What was I going to do now. I'm in sales and it's not that simple.

She texted me about 5 days later saying she just couldn't deal with it. She worked hard to get where she was and she was afraid of losing it. Didn't want to be a sugar momma (Don't know where that came from, she drove a Mercedes, I was actually worried she might be in heavy debt).

So I texted back, "Ok. Still was the best date ever. I don't agree this will affect you in any way. But if that's how you feel, I can't change that. I wish you well" She continued to text me back and forth many times for the next 15 minutes or so. I kept telling her its Ok. I told her I wouldn't bug her, I was sad, but I could take it.

And that hurt for several weeks, but I never contacted her. I have had this really strange feeling that this isn't done yet. I didn't cheat or wrong her or say anything insensitive. Didn't criticize her or say anything negative.

So it's been 3 weeks and I'm pretty much just dealing with the gap of having had someone to care about and now there's just a void were that person was. It was just one date, but it was also 3 weeks of 6 to 12 messages a day communication. Not exactly a big relationship.

But I just have this nagging feeling, an intuition, that says she's going to call me. I have been focusing more on trying to see things beyond the analytical world. And I feel this very strongly, envision it all.

So I got my new job and I had entertained reaching out to her. But I didn't, I deleted her number to keep from being tempted. I told her I wouldn't pester her and I won't. I promised.

Since I do not believe she left for anything that was an affront to her sensitivity, is there any chance she might reach out to me someday?

Nope. Piscean here. First, let's look at her telling you she won't be a sugar momma (and I don't care if she's RUSSIAN or not! The dudette knows the LINGO); either she's been hurt in the past, or has had a family member and/or friend been used for their monies. Remember, too, that online dating (NOT telling you this is how you met her, but explaining everything from A-Z for you to understand), allot of women meet SCAMMERS! She's tired of hearing about this, and/or it scares her to be a Sugar Momma. Since you lost your job she saw RED FLAGS! Question: If she drives an expensive car why would this worry you about the payments? You don't know if she has a clear title, and/or SHE has a man that pays her bills (Eva shrugs her shoulders). I don't want to label her as being "selfish", but I already answered your question. No; she will NOT contact you; even when she hears it thru the grapevine that you have another job; and that's what YOU want (for her to hear it from the grapevine.....YOU!). Sorry it didn't work out, but next time you meet a woman, please don't tell her 100% of all your life! If you get a paper cut, don't text her (I'm being sarcastic here). She shouldn't have known that you lost your job because your company wanted you to pay back monies, etc. Believe you me I learned from getting to know an Aries man; like you were in the early stages of getting to know your Piscean "lady". I, too, will keep my MOUTH shut! Live and learn!

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

Yeah, it's true. But I got her back! What do you think of the my last post on this thread?