Have I given up?

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jubilee
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Hey you guys...

Been dating a Scorpio guy for 7 years. Long distance for the last 5 years. It was tough, but we pulled through till we could.
He was always aloof, every guarded with his feelings towards each and everything, which kinda didn't go down very well with me. So, my problem, I guess? He's been asking me to marry him. He is 28, me 22. I've wanted to get a better hold on my career, so I had asked for some time (3 years or so). A lot was happening on my plate. I was diagnosed with ovarian tumour this August. I was way too emotional and there was a whole lot of crying before my surgery 'coz i was shit scared. He ignored my calls, texts for the entire week I was in the hospital. My brother told me to dump his sorry ass asap. We haven't met face to face yet.

We just had a major major fight, a lot of bickering (over the phone) an hour back, till a point where I couldn't answer his call anymore. I felt too drained. So he hurled some abuses at me through text(never happened before. We used to refrain from doing that shit.). My ego, self-esteem...whatever you call it, couldn't take it. I amputated him. I feel him no more.

My chart
Sun Pisces
Moon Libra
Merc Pisces
Venus Pisces
Mars Aries

His chart
Sun Scorpio
Moon Libra
Merc Scorpio
Venus Sag
Mars Capricorn

I don't what I'm looking for in this thread. Just needed to write something before I lost it. I'm upset, but I'll be okay. πŸ™‚

Just thought of myself as that kind of a person who would give up my life for someone. Kind of disappointed in myself, but yeah, I've done the right thing.
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Ugh.... the relationship with pisces women and scorp men is so tormented. In my experience, it's very involved on an under-the-surface level, and seems to carry itself forth with minimal interaction. Suffice to say, no matter what goes down, there always seems to be a pull.

I think you will be fine so long as he is out of sight. Again, that's been my experience, I can feel over a scorp man all I want, so long as I'm not around him. The moment I see him - things get blurry again.

I also don't know what I'm offering here.... take from it what you can πŸ™‚
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Posted by jubilee

Just thought of myself as that kind of a person who would give up my life for someone. Kind of disappointed in myself, but yeah, I've done the right thing.



Quick question.... - Why would this disappoint you? There's nothing to be disappointed about there. There is no weight in giving up anything for anyone (and most of the time, it will go unappreciated anyway). If anyone expects that of you - it's a quick turnaround when you think about what they'd give up for you. Sure there are some that would appreciate it, but it's a little too fairy tale to think that an equal return would ever take place.

Guh, more gobbledy goop there. Sorry!
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Some people just get tired after being together that long. Especially if they're apart. They start getting irritated and forget why they love each other. They end up saying mean things or doing insenitive things. But, people also forget that sometimes you need to work, and put effort into fixing something instead of saying 'I'm tired, I give up.' Time apart might be a good way to find answers, too. Though, if one of you decides that you regret it, it may be that the other just won't have it, anymore. I hope in the future, you will find that your actions are still validated. If not, it will be painful. Even if what I say seems to be implicating that your decision is wrong - that isn't correct. You know what's best for you, and I'm just stating a passing opinion, on my part. So, with that said, I really do wish you the best. Don't give up on finding what makes you happy.
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jubilee
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Posted by Poisson
First off, I sincerely hope you're doing okay and that your surgery went well...

After 7 years... "I was diagnosed with ovarian tumour this August.I was way too emotional and there was a whole lot of crying before my surgery 'coz i was shit scared. He ignored my calls, texts for the entire week I was in the hospital."
This doesn't sit well with me.

You're young, I'm certain you will be okay.

May I ask what the fight was about?



I had gone to stay with my dad (parents separated 2 years ago) when things got worse and the the surgery had to be immediate. Yeah, the surgery went fine. Thank you for asking, dear πŸ™‚

The fights, started as something petty, escalated to heights. I had many unresolved issues over the way I got treated. The matter dies down for a few days, then it's in my head again. I don't know what I was asking for. I just wanted him to be himself, yet not content with what I was being offered. Guilty for expecting more, or rather that he change his behaviour. I didn't want him to change, yet...sigh...It's a twisted saga. Atleast it's over. πŸ™‚

Yeah, I'll be okay. πŸ™‚πŸ™‚
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jubilee
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Posted by deezie
Ugh.... the relationship with pisces women and scorp men is so tormented. In my experience, it's very involved on an under-the-surface level, and seems to carry itself forth with minimal interaction. Suffice to say, no matter what goes down, there always seems to be a pull.

I think you will be fine so long as he is out of sight. Again, that's been my experience, I can feel over a scorp man all I want, so long as I'm not around him. The moment I see him - things get blurry again.

I also don't know what I'm offering here.... take from it what you can πŸ™‚
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jubilee
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Posted by juke
it seems a piscean trend to take suffering to new heights (or lows), sometimes unnecessarily. if i learned anything from beating myself up, it's to be nicer to oneself. you want more time, then allow it. his loyalty will show the longer he waits.




Agreed. Some me time. And time to set priorities in the right order. What has to happen in the sidelines, will continue, whether we play a hand in it or no.
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Posted by Scenic
Some people just get tired after being together that long. Especially if they're apart. They start getting irritated and forget why they love each other. They end up saying mean things or doing insenitive things. But, people also forget that sometimes you need to work, and put effort into fixing something instead of saying 'I'm tired, I give up.' Time apart might be a good way to find answers, too. Though, if one of you decides that you regret it, it may be that the other just won't have it, anymore. I hope in the future, you will find that your actions are still validated. If not, it will be painful. Even if what I say seems to be implicating that your decision is wrong - that isn't correct. You know what's best for you, and I'm just stating a passing opinion, on my part. So, with that said, I really do wish you the best. Don't give up on finding what makes you happy.



I understand what you meant here, Scenic. πŸ™‚ Unfortunately or fortunately, it feels weird to tell you, that this decision didn't take a whole lot of logical thinking, sitting down with pen and paper and jotting down the pros and cons of this union. Maybe that was something I should have done but it just "happened". I snapped. I didn't know how and even when, but it got to me.

I had told him eons ago that I have an escapist streak in me. I bolt if I can't survive, to a point when even I can't predict when that would happen.

And thank you for the best wishes πŸ™‚πŸ˜„
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jubilee
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Posted by Poisson
I think the phrase "When it rains, it pours" can apply here. Between your medical scare, the stress of being in a LDR; that can really throw the infamous Piscean martyrdom into a tizzy. I also think you two might be in 2 different stages in your life... if that's a good or a bad thing, I don't know... Just keep your head above water.




Yeah, you hit the nail on the nail on the head, Poisson. We do want different things "right now". He wants to settle down 'coz he's done everything he's ever wanted to so far. And I don't see myself settling down for another 6 to 7 years. His Cap Mars is very stubborn and very conventional.

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Posted by jubilee


I understand what you meant here, Scenic. πŸ™‚ Unfortunately or fortunately, it feels weird to tell you, that this decision didn't take a whole lot of logical thinking, sitting down with pen and paper and jotting down the pros and cons of this union. Maybe that was something I should have done but it just "happened". I snapped. I didn't know how and even when, but it got to me.

I had told him eons ago that I have an escapist streak in me. I bolt if I can't survive, to a point when even I can't predict when that would happen.

And thank you for the best wishes πŸ™‚πŸ˜„


No, I understand. I did the same thing, actually, to my last relationship. If I can share with you how I felt about that....I did think of the pros/cons, but I was still unsure. Though, after having a conversation with him soon after, I was just like, I'm done. What happened was....I was okay for a few months, and then it suddenly hit me. I really missed him or thought I did, anyway. However, no matter how hard it is, I know that the decision I made was for the best, and the only part that hurts is the memories and how they all suddenly meant nothing. Who knows if you'll experience that or not. But, if you know you made the right decision, don't let anything hold you back. Sometimes you gotta say 'screw you!' to feelings because you know you're better off not going back. Haha, I am very escapist, myself. The advice I gave first still applies, though, because I sometimes wonder how things would have been different if we actually tried. I do think failing relationships can sometimes be worked out. But, then again, if someone gets a thought planted in their head that says 'I'm not happy, maybe I should leave', it's going to grow until you do it and are left to deal with the consequences (good or bad).
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Posted by jubilee
Yeah, it does seem to carry forth something. I couldn't figure out what it was when we were together, there's just this magnetic pull towards each other. I know what you mean, Deezie.
It's easier to control emotions when you know you are in control of the situation, ergo "Scorpio man not around". I feel as if I'll lose an uphill battle of detoxing myself even if I just listen to his voice ( immediately deleted voicemail when I realised it was him.). I need to detox and take some time out for myself. And I still know that this isn't the last time I'll hear from him.

Keeping my fingers crossed. I'm avoiding any future confrontation with him. The only way I know to heal. Maybe cowardly, but yeah



I tend to agree with you. Don't talk to him, don't see him, don't hear him.... just remove yourself so that you can do what you need to do. It's not cowardly. It's what you need to do for yourself. Sometimes we fish find it hard to mark that line in the sand.

I will warn you - even though I now see the scorp in my own situation for what he is - that inexplicable pull is still in play. Luckily I have had enough time to finally put my brain in front of that "pull" - and realize that regardless, it's bad news. Your situation sounds different, where you just need to focus on yourself and your goals, but you do need time to get your brain in the right place about it. Because if you aren't 100% on top of what is best for you, it's way too easy to get sucked back in. I wish you luck πŸ™‚ - I know you know exactly what I'm talking about, which is good, because you are more likely to do what needs to be done!