Lamenting loss of Pisces

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Hello,

I am interested in this forum because I am currently losing my pisces... I am an Aquarius Sun near the cusp of Pisces and Capricorn moon, and I have been with a Pisces sun Libra moon for over 3 years. We recently split up because my need for freedom, and her need for emotional security ( she wanted to wed,) were at odds. Now that she's gone and being a true emotional warrior (a detached martyr), I am trying to understand my feelings for her and wondering if there is a place in my future life with her. We had a beautiful love, My sun and her moon had a divine connection, as well as her moon and my sun; but there were conflicts in our sun signs, such as my insensitivity vs her sensitivity; my objectivity vs her subjectivity; and my individualism vs her dependence. The aqua pisces combination can be very frustrating at times, but there is an ethereal understanding and mutual love and respect that I cannot say i have ever felt with another person; she may very well be the one God chose for me...but I could not live on without experiencing some freedom before I commit( btw im 25.) My question to all the pisces and others out there is if this love has really perished? She has said that it is too painful to see me or even talk until we are plutonic, but does that mean our love is lost? Will she stay loyal even after we have had other partners? All I know is that I feel a deep and longing void for her mystical ways, limitless love and compassion, and loyalty and understanding...at the same time, my thirst for freedom may be more powerful...Is there a reconciliation of this love in the future? an I break from her, and return to find our ways evolved and ready to achieve the living dream that would be our union? Or have I truly lost her? Any and all advice from you will be appreciated! Thank you!

-J
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Well, yeah, you tend to lose a girl after you dump her. lol That's normally the purpose of the dumpage, isn't it?

I never remained friends with exes. The idea seems pointless to me because the person who wants more ends up letting other opportunities slip away as they subconsciously wait for the other person to wise up.

She may attempt the whole "friends" thing, but eventually she will swim away for good. As far as if you can get her back later it depends on whether or not she meets someone else with whom she has a stronger connection. If she's as young as you are, this is highly likely.

I have an ex-boyfriend who, like you, wasn't ready for a relationship when we were in our 20s. He kept in touch sporadically, but didn't make a full-on effort until it was too late. I was engaged and very happy. This bird had flown.
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"but I could not live on without experiencing some freedom before I commit"



If that is what you want, that is what you will do .... regardless of anything else, including what other Pisces in here counsel, regardless of any of the undying love you have described.

If you tell yourself something .... then you essentially make it your reality.


We are Pisces people .. what would you have us say?

Do you not know that we believe in reality .. now matter how fanatical it is woven?
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nadroj215
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To clarify, I did not dump her, rather I realized that I was incomplete, and needed to fulfill my own heart before promising it forever to another. As one on the cusp of pisces, I can appreciate (barely) the confusing "mist" that comes from mixing air and water, as I believe you should as well, siren...I refuse to accept that my fate will be decided on such black and white terms; at what point does Pisces abandon their compassion and replace it with stoicism and ruthless decisiveness...there must be a way to show pisces that the universe is connected at every point, and not just through the polar opposites. My last realization now is that if I want to get to the bottom of this, it will take every bit of intuition, thoughtfulness, and wisdom I have come to possess, i just hope I don't lose her forever. thank you all for your responses.
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You didn't dump her? Are you together or aren't you? Because if you're not together, no matter how you sugar-coat it to not make yourself think you're a dick.. it's still dumped, hurt, heartbroken. And if you've got all this going on but you're still technically there.. you ARE causing some major damage, man. Decide what you want and do it. Stay or go, but stop dragging her heart around.

"My question to all the pisces and others out there is if this love has really perished?"
No, she'll love you forever. But when she's DONE, she'll be DONE.. even though she loves you, she will not martyr herself for you any longer. Take all the time you need to do whatever it is you feel you must do for you.. but realize that absence doth not make a Pisces heart grow fonder.. it makes her colder.

"Will she stay loyal even after we have had other partners?"
And once she falls in love with someone else, she will remain loyal to HIM, not you. She won't cheat on a new man simply because she loves (and will always love) you. But if you're asking.. you broke up.. you both move on, are with others.. but later get back together.. would she be faithful to you after that? ... Ummm.. really? You dump her, she moves on and makes the best of things, dates others, you get back together.. but suddenly she's likely to be a cheater because she was with someone else during the time YOU were also "sowing wild oats"? Does not compute. One has nothing to do with the other. If she's the loyal type (and I bet she is) she will remain loyal.

What's baffling me, though.. you say you love her so much.. yet.. you are not showing her that you do.. you are showing her that you don't love her as much as you love freedom and the right to do as you please without having to consider anyone but yourself. How is that love? How is that anything but friendship, convenience, loyalty because it's been "so long"? She deserves LOVE, undiluted, and passionate. If you can't give it to her, let her go.
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To be your devil's advocate,

You can have freedom & explore your further-self within a relationship/committment; you will not exactly be tied at the hip and suffocated. With a healthy balance and a realistic outlook/and partners, you really CAN have both. After 3 years, her wishes are not totally unrealistic or unexpected. (..this can only define how much she does love you.) In a sense, it's a bit unfair and unrealistic to hold onto hope she will still be waiting and pining away for you. Depends how long your need for exlusive freedom lasts. The last thing a pisces wants to consider is "other partners", when they are already in love and the heart is fully committed. It may always be a knife through her heart. In the end, actions (your actions) will speak louder than any words could ever.. If you really, really, really love her beyond anything you've experienced, then i can't understand why you would hesitate. Life is just that much funner together with someone you truly* love; hence, imho ("freedom" be-damned) ... I'm a mix of pisces/aquarius myself; and i know from experience this mix can ONLY add to a relationship, since there ARE no big extremes.

Btw, true love doesn't come around very often, maybe even once in a person's lifetime, so weigh carefully your pro's and con's. Just ask yourself, would you rather error on the side of loosing your potential ONE or not experiencing as much freedom as you would've hoped, and (what precisely are the freedoms you seek and CAN many of these NOT be enjoyed, explored and shared with abandon & excitement with her?) Of course, there is nothing wrong with freedom and searching at all; the only thing is you stole a heart prior, so it does make it much more complicated. It's likely at any rate, you will end up second-guessing yourself to some extent. Life is about choices (and yeah, i believe fate guides us too), and you do the best you can wherever you are your life at any given moment. I know the pisces side of me went with my heart (when i met my Sag). It was my decisiveness at 1000% . I did not hesitate. I've never felt so sure of anything, and it's paid off in spades. We both have our own separate AND combined interests. We complete each other by "being" (with) each other, in-turn bringing out the BEST in each of us. I couldn't be happier .. x

G/luck to you.
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I could be entirely off the mark, but the impressions I get are: She was a virgin, you were her first and only... 3 years together, she wants marriage.. but you don't know for sure.. you want to go out and "do stuff" before you're "tied to another forever"... sooooo.. you want to bang other chicks, there's so many beautiful and intriguing women in the world, maybe you've met one... but can't stand the thought of some other man touching her, touching what's YOURS, touching what you want to put up on a shelf for awhile, want her waiting and pining for you, still forsaking all others for you.. ready and willing to pick up where you left off.. whenever you get done doing what you want to do?

Hey, buddy.. it's YOUR life.. YOUR relationship with this Pisces girl.. make your decision and stick with it. If it all blows up in your face, consider it a learning experience.
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Thank you all so much for your thoughtful responses. I appreciate the honesty, and was not hurt or disrespected by any of the comments. The truth is, I should have expected as much; the counsel giving by pisces on this forum has mirrored very similar cautions given by my pisces during our split. I fear your insight is correct, and there is little that can be done now that this decision has been made. She will most likely find someone else to love her as she deserves. I apologize if my comments were antagonistic, but I was having immensely confusing and painful feelings regarding this decision. Your insight has surely allowed me to deal with the intense emotion.
I do think this problem was inherent in the relationship from an early stage, where I was unable, incapable, or too immature to define the boundaries that were important to me. As a strong Aquarius (sun, mercury, jupiter), it was easy for me to devote my whole self to this relationship without thinking of the consequences of long term; when I felt I needed a change, it rocked the foundation of our relationship. I was also the product of a broken family at an early age(1), and thus I refuse to perpetuate that cycle, resulting in a very serious nature towards commitment (Capricorn moon). This has been a very difficult decision for me to make, and very painful to carryout and see through, however, I assure you it was a choice that relied on my heart and soul to guide me, and I must accept what I have done, and savor the experience, and deal with the consequences. Astrology is a tool which may provide the wisdom the change the things we can, and the courage to accept the things we cant. Thank you all, and please continue to respond if you have something more to add, as all of your responses have helped me gain the one perspective I needed to come to grips with my heart.

Take care-J
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Have seen this enough to make me explode.


plutonic [plu—?t?'n??k]
adj
(Earth Sciences / Geological Science) (of igneous rocks) derived from magma that has cooled and solidified below the surface of the earth Also abyssal


Platonic
Pla??ton??ic
— —/pl—?t?'n??k, ple??-/ Show Spelled[pluh-ton-ik, pley-] Show IPA
—adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Plato or his doctrines: the Platonic philosophy of ideal forms.
2.
pertaining to, involving, or characterized by Platonic love as a striving toward love of spiritual or ideal beauty.
3.
( usually lowercase ) purely spiritual; free from sensual desire, esp. in a relationship between two persons of the opposite sex.
4.
( usually lowercase ) feeling or professing platonic love: He insisted that he was completely platonic in his admiration.