Lv24 .. and other male Pisces partners

In knowing the Piscean nature .. the certain trait I'm addressing right now is our inclinations to concentrate our time and efforts in finding reasons to NOT focus on our responsibilities, rather than be career driven, or a lack of having a sense of "taking care of" our duties in any timely or structured fashion .. I'm curious about your experience with the male Pisces on this.

Certainly, this is a generalization and can by no means be applicable to every male Pisces.

Though, it appears in both genders, females tend to "get away" with inertia more so than men and maybe this sounds chauvinistic, but, a manly's responsibility is more geared toward his career and a woman's is more domestically slanted in terms of what is permittable to ignore and what isn't.

So, I'm interested in hearing the experiences from people who have been partnered with the males.

With the few male ones I know .. though they all have GREAT potential to succeed and are quite talented artistically (one musically) .. there is no drive in them. One in particular even has a family that he allows to live close to destitution because of his lack of ambition, or the desire to see his family have more AND he has such potential to provide for them to live above economic standards. Instead, he'll spend a gross amount of time just playing video games or talking to his friends (much like us in here) .. and I'm curious if any females out there partnered with the male experiences this and if you do, how do you get them to WANT to be all they can be?

Perhaps, I should just look at my own reasons and that would define the males also .. however, I'm thinking that perhaps men just plain out don't think the same as women when it comes to guarding and protecting their families, so maybe their motivations or lack of is different.

"He was very career driven and loved learning. He was a computer engineering major. In fact, he earned his Bachelor's degree several years ago. He owns several apartment buildings"

Thanks for helping me to figure this out about our males, pp.

So, eventhough you two have long stopped relating .. do you still have information on him, through your cousin? Do you know if he is still driven (I presume so, since he's in business), and if so, does he own up to his repsonsibilities with his wife & children (if he has his own family yet)?

From your experience, it would appear that he isn't in the category in which I find most male Pisces. Hopefully, more women will have similiar experiences as you and would ease my concern about our males not being the men they should be to thier families, and would suggest that it's just a small few who are actually content to just "think" about what they want deeply without really taking any action for improvement for their charges.

Wow, he sounds like a great catch, pp. I wonder why he struggles in finding a good woman? You think it's because he is not the prettiest star in the sky?

People are so shallow, sometimes .. the person is the one within. Beauty is so deep that it cannot even be seen with the physical eyes.

Well, just because he is such an awesome man, I hope he ends up catching a beauty queen, he would deserve it.

I'm thinking that my original concerns about our guys was wrong, thank goodness .. that was bothering me because a real man takes care of his obligations to his family first and foremost. I guess I was just letting this get over-exaggerated in my silly brain.

Thanks for putting me at ease with this. And I'll be thinking of like a Tyra Banks kind of beauty for your friend (ex).

Hey, speaking of cousins .. have you heard from your cousin who is suffering from CF yet? How's she doing?

I was just over on their board earlier, but, didn't really pay attention to anyone getting beat up. I'll go over there and take a snoop. Are the Cancer men not taking care of their stuff properly? Funny, actually, because I went on and on (talking to a woman) about how manly a Cancer can be and is, if treated the way he needs it .. just completely oblivious to being in opposition with the bullies.

Now, I have to go look over there .. curiousity will kill me on it.

I hope your cousin is ok, too .. I think about it often.

That's a shame that your friend gets burnt by woman wanting his money. Maybe you can find someone who's just his type and set up some blind double dates .. get him out there, meet some nice women.

Something really sad that's been tormenting me ALL DAY .. on my back porch, a husband and wife little Wren birds built a nest in the eaves, the eggs hatched about 10 days ago and the momma and poppa have worked diligently, flying back and forth to feed their little ones. Well, I have two cats and two dogs, who naturally have to go out. So, I will let them out, the birds stay at bay and when they have to get to their babies after fifteen minutes or so, they'll fly onto my window here at my computer, cling onto the screen and yell at me to get the cats back in the house.

I obediantly oblige .. it's been so beautiful watching this family, and it really brings joy to see how devoted these parents are (I didn't realize that male birds were so involved with child-rearing).

Well, apparantly, they got the babies out of the nest sometime early morning and got them into the garden huddled and I guess was going to get them to another location further away from the house. And, I did something that I've been beating myself up over all day.

This morning, I just opened the door and let the cats out without thinking to look. Every other time, the parents fly high and the babies nest is too high. Only, they were on the ground, defenseless, unable to fly.

I got back to my computer, sat down, looked out the window and saw my dogs bouncing around because the parent birds were frantic and swooping. I ran outside.

It was too late .. my cats killed all the babies. The parents are so upset .. they've been sitting on my fence, staring at the garden and singing songs of sorrow. They're still there .. over 15 hours later. They lost their whole family because I'm such an idiot and no matter how bad I feel, I can't take it back.

My husband is very sensitive to animals and he wants to beat the cats up for it because he's so upset .. but, it's not the cats fault. That's what cats do.

It's my fault and I deserve the grief that's consumed me. I killed them because of my carelessness .. I should have looked before opening the door.

That is an extremely sad story about the bird family.

I had a cat years ago that was a notorious bird killer in my neighborhood. My neighbors really wanted me to get a bell for his neck. Although that would not have helped with baby birds unable to fly.

Regarding Pisces men and ambition, I have dated two Pisces men that I know of. One many years ago, and one recently. Both had very little ambition and were/are not successful in a material sense. The one from years ago seemed to be kind of a user. The one recently just seemed to value other things.

However, I have two bosses who are both Pisces and very ambitious and quite well-to-do.

I have heard that there are two types of Pisces men in the career/wealth department. If they are able to get it together at a young age, they generally can be quite successful. Others never show that inclination. My story illustrates that this could be true.

I know, that's why I'm not mad at them, I am at myself for my stupidity. The hardest part are watching the parents grieve .. I mean, it's sad that the babies are dead .. but, they're dead now and not feeling any pain. Whereas the parents are still so heart-broken that they haven't left the fence, watching the garden, where they last saw their babies.

I really had no idea that birds had so much feeling and compassion and could feel this kind of sorrow. The parents pain that is still continuing as I type, is what's bothering me so bad.

If they're still there in the morning, grieving .. I'm not sure what I'll do or what kind of an emotional condition I'll be wracked with.

I wonder if instincts will tell them to lay more eggs? Do you know anything about birds?

So, maybe that's the answer .. if he find his path early on, or is exposed to and influenced into striving to obtain a goal, or dream, then the male Pisces will be successful .. but, if left unstimulated or encouraged, he will just drift and never find his path.

I suppose that isn't even sign related, just what kind of values are instilled by our parental units and/or guardians.

Thanks Calixa, for sharing your experiences.

Thanks pp and Calixa for sending some feelings to my grieving birds.

pp, I didn't even look .. who's getting reamed? Was it on the thread I responded to? Completely oblivious.

That's what my brother's girlfriends said, so, I don't really know first hand .. I do know that my brother is extremely sensitive and he's consientious of himself for being so sensitive.

He's an incrediable builder .. and his woman boasts, brags and pumps him up for decks, cabinets, statues he's done. It's really helped him come fully into this manhood and allowed him to embrace his sensitivity instead of fretting over it, as it relates to his natural emotional disposition.

My brother and I are now estranged .. so, really, I assume he's still doing great with this, since he's still with his woman.

My husband is so sensitive to my emotions (the sad ones).. you'd never know the way I talk about him, but, he is. He called me all day, every 30 minutes just to talk because I was so distraught.

I chased the cats away before they ate them all, and the ones they did eat, they left some parts. So, I wrapped them up in napkins and left them out on a stone in the garden in case the parents flew over to them. They didn't, but, they knew their babies were in the napkins. When my husband got home, we took them out to our pet cemetary and we buried them. We were careful not to bury them next to the late cats, that would just be wrong, eventhough the cats passed last year.

Thanks for your support, pp

Good Night, pleasant dreams 🙂

Thanks archer .. that must have made you feel so aweful. And the thing is, no matter how bad you feel about it, you can't take it back, undo it. You tried to help the little baby, though .. I know that doesn't help much when you feel responsible.

This morning, my parent birds were gone from the fence and I havne't seen them .. so, I'm hoping that they are healing from this. I don't know how nature works with birds .. maybe there's no feelings at all and it was just pure instincts with them. I don't know.

Thanks for sharing your bird story with me, it helps 🙂