Pisces Gal/Virgo Guy

I normally post on the Virgo board but here I am.

I've been seeing a Virgo guy for over a year now & just recently out of the blue he went back to his Pisces girlfriend, for the 3rd time in about 2 years!!

I am about at my witts end. When my Virgo guy was at an all time low in his life when I 1st met him, she ran out on him & treated him like a dog. I stuck with him & helped him get his life back together as much as I could. Then all of a sudden she heard thru the grape vine he now has a good paying job & a new car & poof!! She appears.

What I can't believe is my guy falls for her crap & believes her when she says she's "really going to try" to make the relationship work this time. Sounds to me like she's a manipulative bitch on wheels & frankly I'd like to punch her LOL.

Anyway, my question is...why does she keep toying with him? Why doesn't she just let him alone, and why in the hell does he keep going back to her?

I've pretty much stayed out of the picture & still find it amusing he still calls me at least twice a day & when he is travelling up to see his "new" girlfriend on the weekends, he always calls me on his way up & back from seeing her. We normally talk 2 hours at least.

Ideas? Opinions? My mom & sister are pisces & both of them make me crazy so I'm not surprised I hate this woman.

Help

"My mom & sister are pisces & both of them make me crazy so I'm not surprised I hate this woman."

Are you suggesting that you hate your mother and sister? Sounds to me that perhaps you wouldn't be AS upset IF is this woman wasn't a Pisces, for you've already made the decision that you should hate her based on your relationship with your mother and sister.

Furthermore, when you said, "Anyway, my question is...why does she keep toying with him? Why doesn't she just let him alone" Aren't you, in fact, doing the same thing by engaging in private conversations on the telephone with him: "We normally talk 2 hours at least", when you have fully comprehended that he is still interesting in moving his life around to compensate this other woman.

When in fact, this is not the truth: "I've pretty much stayed out of the picture" Your post is contridictory, it appears as though you are talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time, and because you are so riddled with jealousy that he would turn away from you to go back to her, that one, you refuse to see this in yourself and two, it has reduced you to: "frankly I'd like to punch her"

You know all these answers yourself, it's plain and simple and that's why you feel the desire to strike her physically.

He's in love with her and not you. Furthermore, you feel that you have spent a year rising him above what YOU consider "all time low in his life" and he should show his gratitude by sticking by your side instead of hers. Isn't that correct?


I know that it's difficult being rejected. We all face this at some point in our lives, but, that's life. And the way to expand and grow beyond our downfalls is by realizing what fault we have in a relationship. Everything is NOT one sided. If a person believes that they take NO blame in a situation then that makes them double-standard. And Frankly, from what I've seen from most of your posts in the past, you don't seem AS double-standard as most people are when thier pride has been stepped on, so, I believe that you can rise above this post and realize that YOU can't fix another person . . . they have to fix themselves.

You need to fix yourself out of this funk.


You asked: "Anyway, my question is...why does she keep toying with him? Why doesn't she just let him alone" Because she's Pisces and they are players of emotions.

"and why in the hell does he keep going back to her?" Because he loves her.

You know this. Why a

Maybe she is manipulative, maybe not.
Maybe she is a bitch, maybe not.

But, what is certain is that "he went back to his Pisces girlfriend, for the 3rd time in about 2 years".

Do you fully comprehend what his actions mean? His words on the telephone mean nothing compared to his actions.


Realize what this means, stand up and walk away, for every person deserves to have someone love them for real and not for fake.

P Angel,

I in no way harbor bad feelings about anyone in my family. I just meant that my sister & mother are totally & completely different than I am (I'm an aqua girl) & it somoetimes makes me crazy.

I do want to clairfy that when Virgo guy told me he was dating this lady again, I told him I'd step out of the pic & let them be happy if that was what he truly wanted. And I have no intention of seeing him in person that is what I meant by staying out of the picture. If he chooses to call me & talk with me because he is obviously more comfortable with me than he is with her, he's more than welcome to do so. He has voiced doubts that the 3rd time is a charm & I know he doesn't trust her. He confides in me & I am there for him I don't care if it's right or wrong in anyone's eyes.

And I absolutely do not think he should stand by me because I helped him out of a bad spot in his life. He's acknowledge that I've been there for him 100% & she has not. It's obvious she wants nothing to do with sticking with him when things are rough..she just wants to spend his money & ride around in his new car. He even knows it..he's joked to me about it. So this woman is a loser..plain & simple. And sure we've all been jilted & this isn't my 1st time. And yes I'm plagued with jealousy...which I think is normal when you put your faith into someone & he runs back to a woman who is cold & callous.

And sure I think he believes he luvs her, but if that's true why can't he stay away from me then?

"And sure I think he believes he luvs her" Ask yourself, then, if you know this to be true . . Why am I still here? Don't I deserve better?


"but if that's true why can't he stay away from me then?" He can stay away from you, for it's her he loves . . . you still let him in and you are his sounding board while he hashes through whether he wants to be with the person he doesn't love, but trusts (you) . . . or the person he loves, but, doesn't trust.

The question you should be asking, instead of why this has happened, because you know full well WHY it's happened . . . you should be asking YOURSELF . . .

. . . why am I allowing this to happen to me?

And, that's exactly what you are doing, everytime you talk to him and let him tell you whatever it is he's telling you to make you think that you are important to him because the fact of the matter is . . .

. . . if you were THAT important to him, he would be standing next to you.


But, he's NOT and that is the writing on the wall . . . can you see it?

Oh I see the writing very clearly yes.

Thanks for trying to help...but such a deep analysis isn't what I was looking for. You don't know him or me...

Good things come to those who wait & as he did 2 other times, he'll see she's a gold digging hussy who will leave him again as soon as she tires of him.

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"You don't know him or me..." Nope and neither does anyone esle in here, yet, you ask the question, anyway.

Cool, I'm glad you see the writing on the wall . . . or do you, because you said all good things come to those who wait . . .

. . . Is he that good? If he would do it her, what makes you think he won't do it to you once someone else comes along?

Are you sure that what you see so clearly isn't your desire to have him, which overshadows his true qualities as a loyal companion?

Not questioning you help66, or your motives . . . just want YOU to question YOU, for as you've stated, nobody in this fantasy land knows you or him.

"but such a deep analysis isn't what I was looking for" What were you looking for, then? Someone to stand beside you? I thought that is supposed to be your boyfriends job. Is it not?

Just want you to question yourself, for only you know the answers to your life's problems.

HONEY I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT U WERE A REBOUND. HE IS NOT WORTHY OF YOU , U ARE TO GOOD FOR HIM

"Either way, you cannot blame her totally..... he made a choice too you know."

Yes, he has made his choice and think about that for what it really means.

Here he is, has TWO girls, trying to get his attention. Even one of them is willing to come to blows for him. He's got it made, doesn't he? She sees it as, "I'll wait like a good girl, for he's worth it." Well, then he's games worked, didn't it.

I mean, why in the world WOULD he get rid of her when he knows she uses him? He's got another standing in line, waiting on him.

Yes, he has made the choice and that's the problem. He's calling all the shots.

If he REALLY knows that she's a louser, then why go back? It's part of the manipulation. If he has help believing that he's some kind of martyr, then she'll feel sorry for him and wait to lick his wounds again.

Furthermore, there is no way for Help to know what went on in his and her relationship, unless he tells her. Well, if he's playing both sides of the field, then how can anyone be sure that this woman used him?

If someone was using me, I don't think I would believe his word about his perspective of another relationship.

He's friggin playing her!!!!

He's got his cake, his ice cream too . . .

And has both believing that he wants them, and has both believing that the other is a louser so the other will feel sorry for him . . . how else would he keep both. I mean, if he told Help that this other woman was a sweetheart and he was crazy about her, do you honestly think she would stick around . . would anybody?

So, his plan worked, hasn't it? Here Help is all feeling sorry for him and would step down on her dignity to SERVE his needs.

Think about it that way, Help !!!!! He gets both of you and you get to sit and wait for him to decide that's it YOUR turn for his attention. And, when he's done with her, he might come back, or, maybe he'll tire.

Doesn't matter, really . . . choice is his . . . you just have to wait.

Bullshit !!!!