Pisces Man Troubles

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BadGalVirgo
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Ok, so feisty Virgo here!! Same Pisces man... A lot has transpired between us and he is going through very hard times in his life. When we initially meet it was the opposite... He was doing great and I was going through hard times..

Well, now I'm doing good and all the while would always offer a helping hand to him which he would never accept. He always have women around him though, different women.... Which eventually left me refusing him for months... But he would still always come around begging me to be patient and once things got better in his life... Things would be better between us...

I would always listen but eventually, it got played out and I decided to walk... Telling him we could still be friends but it wasn't for me... Well, exactly 2 weeks after I broke it off... I found out I was 2 weeks pregnant (please don't judge) I contacted him and told him... He was ELATED... He begged me to have it, telling me we could do this and he really loved me and our baby and this was good... Yada, Yada, Yada..... Me, not so much... He had treated me so bad... Often with other women and just being a typical pisces... I told him I didn't know if that was what I wanted... And, he looked heartbroken...

I ended up losing it, and every since I told him he has been... Different, he has basically disappeared... Is he coping? He called me Monday but I did not answer... I love him. But his ways made me unsure... Why has been treating me badly if he loves me so much? When I told him I lost it he looked so depressed and... So was I... But now, I just don't know what's happening? Does he love me like he says and is just consumed with his hard times? Should I stick around and nurture him back to life? What can I do? What is up with my pisces man friend?
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deezie
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OP - I'm not great at being 'delicate' in my responses... so please know this isn't to be judgemental. Be careful of transferring the loss of your child onto this man. You had your answers about him pre-pregnancy. You walked away from him, because he wasn't able to give you what you were seeking.

I wouldn't focus on a) healing him, or b) working things out with him. I would, however, seek counselling for the type of event that you have endured. There is a mess of emotions tied into all of this, and not dealt with appropriately will only further complicate them. Turn to family and friends, not to the man you already didn't choose.... don't second guess your decisions from when you had a clearer and lighter mind is what I'm saying.

All the best to you.

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Posted by deezie
OP - I'm not great at being 'delicate' in my responses... so please know this isn't to be judgemental. Be careful of transferring the loss of your child onto this man. You had your answers about him pre-pregnancy. You walked away from him, because he wasn't able to give you what you were seeking.

I wouldn't focus on a) healing him, or b) working things out with him. I would, however, seek counselling for the type of event that you have endured. There is a mess of emotions tied into all of this, and not dealt with appropriately will only further complicate them. Turn to family and friends, not to the man you already didn't choose.... don't second guess your decisions from when you had a clearer and lighter mind is what I'm saying.

All the best to you.

I agree that he should be the least of your worries right now; since he didn't even care to reach out when you told him you lost the baby. Sorry for your loss
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I understand why he was your main focus before you discovered you were pregnant. After all, your life was going great & he was your distraction

BUT I'm concerned for you now b/c you are focusing more on how he's healing than you are about yourself. Yes, I'm sure he was devastated & is very disappointed in the pregnancy ending prematurely. BUT the worst thing you can do is to suppress your feelings, thus limiting your ability to fully heal YOURSELF, all in the name of focus on someone else' healing

If you & this guy don't end up working out in the end, all of your pain, depression & devastating effects of that miscarriage WILL come out. And if you're heart broken now over the loss of 2 people you loved (him & your baby), imagine how the heartbreak will double if you spent all this time waiting on him & yet he never come back. It's already bad enough what you're going through now. Add "betrayal" onto that & you'll be feeling 10 X's worse later on if you don't try dealing with these issues NOW

Everybody grieves differently. Some people need to separate & go off into their own corners isolated from everybody else in order to deal with their problems & cope. Others may see this as selfish & that they are neglecting their friends/loved ones who need them too. BUT the person who needs that alone time won't ever see it that way, nor was it their intention for others to take their disappearance so badly, b/c they are too consumed with their own emotions/grief.

It's not until the storm within them starts to calm down that they start coming around again. And depending on perspective, that can be a good thing. What good is he in terms of support to you if he's an emotional wreck?! 2 shoulders can't lean on each other! 2 devastated people coming together will only cause more devastation b/c their devastation will feed off of each other. There has to be a balance of 1 person whose got it together while the other person is still in pieces. People know this. That's why some may not feel they're doing you a favor in consoling you if they themselves aren't strong enough to face the issues at hand.

If he ever had any plans on changing or holding out hopes that you 2 may be together, it was because of the possibility of you 2 having children. But now that you've miscarried, he's now remembering that you don't trust him, kept trying to push him away & weren't confident in him, so he's probably decided to throw in the towel altogether b/c he might figure that a
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....If he ever had any plans on changing or holding out hopes that you 2 may be together, it was because of the possibility of you 2 having children. But now that you've miscarried, he's now remembering that you don't trust him, kept trying to push him away & weren't confident in him, so he's probably decided to throw in the towel altogether b/c he might figure that adding a miscarriage onto all the other problems b/w you 2 would just for SURE deaden your chances of ever having a functional happy relationship.

Focus on yourself! Lean on others that you love as well so that you can maintain some sense of sanity. Don't underestimate the devastating effects a miscarriage can have on a woman. It can be a lonnnng road to recovery emotionally & physically & the worst thing you can do is prolong that process. The more hurt you deal with now, the less hurt & issues you'll have to feel & sort out later.

I wish you the best!
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Posted by deezie
OP - I'm not great at being 'delicate' in my responses... so please know this isn't to be judgemental. Be careful of transferring the loss of your child onto this man. You had your answers about him pre-pregnancy. You walked away from him, because he wasn't able to give you what you were seeking.



This makes sense in the logical mind. But him being an Ahole before the pregnancy doesn't somehow make her pain any less or his actions less relevant all b/c she's now lost the baby. If anything, the fact that he treated her like crap before all of this happened, just makes her feelings of betrayal, disappointment & loss worse & that much harder to deal with

The worse the circumstances were leading up the pregnancy, the more it's gonna hurt if the pregnancy prematurely ends.

So although I agree that she should focus primarily on herself & her own healing, I wouldn't dare try to make her feel bad for still needing him or holding out hope for him, while she's in her most vulnerable emotional state. Logical theories go in 1 ear & out of the other when a person is not in the mood or right mind to be anything but an emotional wreck.

When she finally starts to heal & cope with what has happened, THEN it will be appropriate to say, "Well what did you expect?!" The "I told you so" stuff is too much for her right now. Not now...too soon

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Posted by BadGalVirgo
I feel like now is when I need him most. We need each other... But he has just gone so far away emotionally... It almost hurts to even hear his voice, that's why I couldn't speak to him Monday... I just don't know what's going on... I can still feel him even though we are away... I can still feel him... As crazy as that sounds.



Me and my ex wife lost a child too and I felt a mental connection too during and just after the loss. Don't know if it's related to the dying baby or sthg, or if it's just imagination.