Question for all Pisces

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I have read a lot on here about how pisces sometimes needs to be silent and withdraw from others especially in relationships. My question is: where do they go? in their minds how can they actually justify their silences ? arent they afraid that the person that they are withdrawing from will be hurt and find someone else? or is that the point of the silences, to get rid of their partner? Or perhaps to wipe the slate clean and start anew?
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"where do they go?"

Swimming in the vortex of realms


"in their minds how can they actually justify their silences ?"

Justify? "actually" justify? To who? We are accountible for ourselves, no justification is warranted for anybody except our selves.

***** sensing a tone of control here ********


"arent they afraid that the person that they are withdrawing from will be hurt and find someone else?

Nope .. don't like it? Leave !! That's our motto.


"or is that the point of the silences, to get rid of their partner?

The point of silence is to go swimming in the vortex


"Or perhaps to wipe the slate clean and start anew?

Nope, to go swimming in the vortex inbetween realms
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"in their minds how can they actually justify their silences ?"


I would truly like to know what you mean by this question. The tone of it is suggesting to me that you think he (or whomever) must have some kind of nerve to get quiet about something.

Actually justify .... as in audacity? How DARE someone not answer to you?


That is the impression I'm left with .... is that how you meant it?

You're a Scorpio, eh?
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Actually justify .... as in audacity? How DARE someone not answer to you?

In my mind, if I am ignoring someone, going without contact for more than a week, then I consider that "inconsiderate" behavior on my part. which is why I dont do it. I do not treat my friends or boyfriends inconsideratly. so when I read on here that pisces goes weeks without contact, I wonder if they just dont care about treating people inconsideratley.
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Funny thing .... for years I've been saying something that most every person thinks is insane .. but, it's true .. it really is ...

People would have the below belief system in place, and I believe it to be a faulty one because to me ... it's selfish.


**** Treat others as you would want to be treated ****


And this is the most selfish thing I've ever heard ... every person is different, in which case, they require different treatment. What is proper or appropriate for you .. is you.

In case .. to you, you have a certain standard in which you consider as proper treatment of yourself, so you project this expectation onto another person as though they have a duty to live up to your standards, and this is wrong treatment of another person.

A person is to be treated according to their OWN terms.

Back to your Pisces friend ... it is normal for a Fish to go prolonged periods of time in silence, they REQUIRE solitude from their partners so they can incorporate how they feel into their lives. For a person to date a Pisces, they have to understand that this is being who they are and there aren't any intentions of causing grief to another.
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"I can guarantee you its because of my constant withdrawing. If it were up to me, I'd spend a majority of my time in solitude"


Ditto that ^^^


Even in another persons presence, I can be completely vacant, submerged into the vortex inbetween feeling and thought .. trying on all the various sensations of life experiences to see how they apply to my life.

People complain about this with me too 😕
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Destinyschild .... one thing you have to know .. non-Pisceans feel things differently than we do. For us to be vacant, or silent .. there are no feelings involved with this for ourselves, only those of others.

What I mean is .. we will feel bad or guilty if we've hurt another person, however, there are no feelings for ourselves within this situation.

Meaning .. we aren't missing the person, feeling inconsiderate, feeling rejected, feeling lonely, feeling anything because when we withdraw, it's to experience life within the illusion.

Yes, we're crazy 😕

It's like .... say something happens, like you two were at a store and another customer was rude to you. At the time, there might be a reaction from your Piscean friend to this lady for being rude, but, your Piscean friend NEVER FELT anything from it .. he responding purely from his mental, intellectual plane telling him that this lady was rude and needed to be scolded for it ............. later, when in his solitude, is where he will actually FEEL the sensations of what happened in the store.

In order for us to feel life experiences ... we have to submerge into the vortex, the rip inbetween our dual realities so that we can incorporate, blend .. thought into feeling, and feeling into thought.
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Lol @ P-Angel

Actually justify .... as in audacity? How DARE someone not answer to you?

That is the impression I'm left with .... is that how you meant it?

You're a Scorpio, eh?


why she have to be a Scorpio—??

I am so over with that silence thing with pisces 😢
Normal people don't that....🙂 it's just rude and then come back and ACT like nothing happen.... like it a normal 🙂
Initially As a SCorpio ,I used to bother with it, now it's just funny ,weird funny:0....🙂 I withdraw too only if and when I moody. what is pisces excuse—?


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Oh, I absolutely agree MsP .. it's wrong of us. As with my belief of treatment that I told Destiny ... it's his responsibility to treat her the way she needs to be treated, as much as it's hers to treat him the way he needs. If a person said to me that they thought I was rude or inconsiderate to them for not phoning or contacting and that it hurt them, I would call them, no question, so they wouldn't get hurt.

My only point in that was because she said it as reference to her terms of treatment. What needs to happen is to tell him.

Destiny .. we respond to other people and their needs. If you tell him how you feel and that it causes you pain, he'll respond. However, you just can't say it as though it's an expectation.

And that's something that every person should try and learn .. we consider it our life duty to take care of our partner and keep them happy ... so, if a person approaches us with the attitude that a part of taking care of them is to do this to make them happy, and we love this person ... we'll jump through hoops to do it. The problem is that most people are controlling and approach us as if it's a job.

Here's your list of things to do .... we'll swim away from that. It has to be because it's a part of taking care of you.
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The problem is just not caring .. that whole dis-connecting from feelings thing ... and it's literally driving me mad these days.

Like right now .. I have a friend of over 40 years and I haven't talked to her since before Thanksgiving. She calls all the time and leaves messages, but, I avoid that calls and never ring her back.

Of course, I care about her and love her ... but, I don't really care about talking to her. And yet, that is no reflection on my part about how much I care about her, thought, it probably is on her side.

< No feelings associated to not talking to her.


Now, if she left a message crying, I'd ring back ASAP. And still not because I had any feelings associated .. it would be because of her pain and torment.
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I've called this guy after I told him and closed communication. I've told him whats wrong, you called me yesterday and today ... and guess what? Even though I told him I wont speak about "that" (let's say just that) he still continued it as if nothing happened.

Now my point is...what if they deserve it? What if 9 out 10 situations I'm right. Then whos is wrong? Me? I don't think so.

Nothing wrong with that. you explained yourself. but flat out ignorning phone calls and people and not explaining yourself in just not good.
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Yes, I get your point .... most people just react and not really listen or pay attention to what really matters.

Happy one day, mad the next .... on day of happiness, there is no thought of days when sad or mad, just dancine merrily along. On days of madness, there is no thought of days when happy, just pure anger.

Just reacting to each moment and each emotion as they happen, totally forgetting that Pisceans don't do that.

The forest is ALWAYS visible .. the trees are blurry.
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Actually, it is a very good question asked by Destinyschild. I also wonder "where do the Pisces go when they withdraw"? Like to what extent? If for e.g they went for work or sch, will they withdraw from the people around them too? Will u all like be withdraw from anyone around them or selected fews? I mean it's kind of difficult to not talk to people esp if they are ard u.

I would expect most other signs not to understand it, cos' it's not the erm...norm. haha... The "norm" would be to tell the other person you need some alone time, but I guess Pisces are different. Last year, I experienced it for myself for the first time...I got no reply from my Pisces friend for a long time that I begin to worry that if I've done anything wrong and start blaming myself for it. And whenever I apologize to my friend...he'll then contact with me and say that it's nothing to do with me. I didn't realise it's a "norm" for Pisces to withdraw and not leave any clarification. hehe...It's scary at first, but I kinda gotten use to it. He's in one of those moods again nowadays...and it's nothing to do with me.

I was wondering what makes u all withdraw? I mean for two years talking with him...I didn't feel the withdrawal until last year...when he started to withdraw more often.

I think all signs have their own "thing" that other signs don't really understand. Like for me taurus, sometimes people don't get why I'm so stubborn and why I like to save a lot. haha... But I guess, it's more difficult to understand a Pisces and that's why they are one of the most misunderstood sign.

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"LMAO @ Scorp accusing Pisces of not being "open" and disappearing."

LOL. Haha...my younger bro is a Scorp and he will just ignore you if he doesn't want to answer your question...I mean IGNORING u right at your face. --> that's what I call rude. haha...

Scorp is another sign which took me a long time to understand. My bro used to piss me off EVERY SINGLE TIME when we are young. He knows how to push my buttons and he like doing it! I guess he enjoys me being angry at him. haha... But at last, we came to an understanding level. But he still irritates me from time to time. I hate the fact he knows how to irritate me and I don't. haha...
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Its a very good question that explained in this thread what I couldnt explain, thats the reason why I am always with problems with my love one (Cap woman) because she doesnt understand this, and she says she never fails toward me or to whom she loves.

I fail alot and she says I dont care about her when this happens...I am talking of phone calls, falling asleep, dreaming in the daylight, not saying a word to her question, not listening to her at a moment of going to the vortex, and I do a face that anoys her because she knows I didnt listened.... For her all this implies I dont love her.

And God how much I love her...
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Flat out ignoring phone calls and people and not explaining yourself IS RUDE regardless of the sign. Rudeness is a product of bad manners !!

About the only time a call wouldn't get returned by me is if it is someone I would have an issue WITH and if I'm not done processing mentally and emotionally how I want to deal with the issue or with them. Sometimes it takes time to work the anger, frustration, and resentment out so I can deal with them in a positive manner and that would require some personal retreat time. But they would get a response telling them I'll call in a few days or something to that affect. If the issue isn't with them and it's a bigger problem say with things going on in life in general then more solitude is necessary to sort it out. But there's no excuse to ignore communication for more then a day or 2 regardless of how deep the thoughts may go in retreat.

Pisces are emotional sponges and tend to absorb a lot of energy good and bad from everyone around them. THEY NEED to get that withdrawal time away from everyone and everything to cope with the overload. But usually an hour or so is all they need other times...getting away for a weekend is even better.

HOWEVER, that being said it is RUDE not to return calls, emails, TM or communication of any kind. There is no excuse!! That is bad up bringing and poor etiquette and not to be blamed as reason for being a Pisces. You'll find every sign does a retreat and withdrawal at times. But poor manners are to blame NOT the sun sign.

Where do they go? Just into deep, deep, thought. The kind of thought where you just don't want to be disturbed until you surface again with the answer or a resolution to whatever is they want to think or dream about. We need to recharge. People take a lot out of us emotionally. It's overwhelming especially because we're intuitive or some of us have a more developed degree of psychic abilities that can also drain us on many levels.


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It's not rude.

People get busy, or maybe they just don't want to be bothered, for whatever reason. Unless you're their boss or significant other, they don't owe you an explanation. It's called the right to privacy. Or simply the right to be human.

I blame part of it on technology. We live in the cell phone era, where ppl have this idea that cell phone = obligated to be available at all times. I find it intrusive and disturbing.
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I have had the "withdrawl" problem with many Pisces. I was talking to a Pisces guy a while back, he showed alot of interest in me, got a little upset when I wasn't 100% affectionate towards him, he wanted to hold me every minute, wanted to sit directly next to me (legs touching) & just couldn't seem to get enough of me. We spent the whole day together & I felt as though this guy might be the type that gets attached too easily. I figured that after he left, the constant need for my attention would grow, especially with distance BUT as soon as he left, I didn't hear from him for a few days. I waited (out of pride) for a week to call him & ask him why he was on me so hard when we were face to face, but when he went back to his own little personal world he acted as if he needed his space & he kept assuring me that it wasn't ME & anything that I personally did wrong BUT that he was just going through alot. He explained it to me so smoothly & made me truly understand that because Aquas are like this too. BUT this started to be a pattern. Every time we would spend time together face to face he was the most affectionate, attention-from-me-seeking person in the world & then when I closed the door behind him as he was leaving it seems like everything just went back to him being in withdrawl, not calling me for a whole week, no communication or anything! And every time I'd call him out on it he would apologize & keep telling me that "I just don't understand." I think the flaw in this situation is that I will only try to understand what he won't tell me to a certain extent. Pisces tend to not express what's really going on that's causing them to withdrawl but yet can't understand why someone finally says F-it & walks away. Another thing that bothers me is that when someone suddenly breaks away from a Pisces they can't seem to understand why & it drives them absolutely crazy (because Pisces hate trying to figure out something that could easily just tell them & spare them the time to investigate)
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I found this on an astrology site. Jennifer Angel. how true about the Pisces male:

bewitching quality, which can capture your heart when you least expect it. They strive to feel they belong and are loved, but also need their personal space to be able to escape.

HIM: A Pisces man is not for the weak at heart. He will sweep you off your feet committing he's undying love one minute and behave like a bachelor the next. But, he will allow you to be you and love you for who you are