Relationships with Pisces Men...Is it worth it?

Hello all Pisces and Non-Pisces

Honestly I think I have gotten one of you little fishies that is swimming downward...BOY, I sure know how to pick em!

BUT out of curiosity

I read through MANY posts throughout the Pisces board from the beginning and I have yet to see ONE successful relationship with a Pisces man. NOT ONE! Is it possible? Are these guys seriously not cut out for being good providers, strong role models, and/or faithful mates?

I have found with the women...they are perfectly capable of sustaining a good relationship but the men...I don't know.

(PS. Haffo PLEASE don't get offended because this is not the purpose of this post. I just want to hear GOOD stories about Pisces men because all I have read were HORROR stories no matter WHAT the zodiac sign of the female and it seems pretty hopeless on the front. Lies, Lies, Lies, and MORE Lies!)

Cancerlady

My Child's father is a Pisces....Very good provider and would do anything for me. But wants to control me and when we were in a relationship,,,in RETROSPECT I think he lied and cheated a lot....Very Sweet men....but have a very nasty side. I have another Pisces fried who is lazy as hell.....and I have another Pisces friend who is married and I beleive him to love and provide for his wife,,,,but still tries to snif around me every blue moon....which I do not entertain.....But I do have a sincere friendship with all three......But they play mental games when they know they have YOU....the key is to not let them know they have any control over you.....once I took the control away from two of my pisces,,,,they were devasted.

But I have to admit...to me....Pisces men are some of the nicest men in the zodiac

"But they play mental games when they know they have YOU"

Softy, please explain that part.

"I lied to him about nothing in the beginning. Our relationship was supposed to be light. Then he said he wanted more. I was wondering, did I miss something? He knew from the beginning that our thing was supposed to stay light. I'm not mad at all about him catching feelings. It touched me as well so I tried to oblige. Thats when he got chickeny."

OMG THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!

In the beginning...My intuition was telling me he was not the type to be "had" so I told him a casual relationship was best. 8 months later he says he wants a relationship...so sincere when he said it. I still didn't take him very seriously but I was like okay. Now it's all "I never signed up for this, I want my freedom, That's why I don't do relationships because I don't want to be hounded"

When HE is the one who asked for it to be exclusive. WTF! Are all P-men like this? Why the F do you guys do that? Like one day after work I didn't call him immediately after I got home and he was like "Where the f- are you that you can't call me" So then I started calling him and now he's like I'm crowding his space! It's like you can't win!

Cancerlady

Even with all my previous praise of Pisces men...

I see now WHY so many people HATE Pisces MEN because they play you until they get what they want...then they turn it around to make you seem like the bad guy! Reading all those past posts have enlightened me SO MUCH and I see now, I will never again date a Pisces man. Sorry for those who are offended, but I don't do mind games.

Also, why does everyone else in the Zodiac have to be held accountable for their actions, while Pisces (men especially) like to blame all of their lies, indiscretions, and mind games on the fact that they are "sensitive"

Oh I'm so sensitive so I can treat everyone else how I want but they can't say anything because it will hurt my poor little feelings. I can create TOTAL and COMPLETE LIES to suit MY whims, but a person cannot blame me because I "feel" they want me to say this...

I didn't really mean to hurt you, my intentions were good...B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T! The road to HELL is paved with good intentions, but you still end up in HELL! Being that I have yet to read about a successful relationship with ANY Zodiac sign with a Pisces male AND all the women/gay men are saying the EXACT same thing...I think I'm going back to my beautiful Leos...maybe a Cappy man will suit me better.

Cancerlady

Sorry P-Angel and all other Pisces I love here...

I am just kinda mad...I don't mean to bash your whole sign...Like I said, the women have ALWAYS been cool with me, but I have learned my lesson with the men.

CL

Aquella:

How can a man have you while he cant have you? LOL? What is that light relationship? What is the limit of it? What we can have and what we cant have? Do you yourself can define it?

Cancerlady:

I dont know what to say. I'm shocked.

As a matter of fact, since selfishness seems to be "okay" with these people I think I am going to start being a little more selfish...

1. Why should I have to answer to my child everytime he/she asks "Where's daddy? or Why doesn't daddy ever come see me? or Why doesn't daddy love me?" with a broken heart...What do I say?

2. Why should I sit at home with a crying baby while he gets to be "free" and do whatever the f--k he wants?

3. Why should I be blamed for trying to "trap" him when there really ain't s-h-i-t to be trapped? He is a f-ing BUM! He's NEVER taken me out ONCE! NEVER got me a B-day gift, and anytime I even need him to physically be there...He's NEVER there?

4. Why should I put in all the blood, sweat, tears, and AGONY being a single mother...just to have him show up 10 years later saying "Oh this is my baby, look how beautiful he/she is" and have the child WORSHIP him just because he FINALLY showed up?

5. Why should I have to be the ONLY one to pay for my loose lips (figuratively) It was his SPERM that impregnated me...It takes two!

I don't think I will be CancerMama after all...

Haffo...

YOU are shocked...About what? That I finally decided to see him for what he is and not for the LIES and FAKE PERSON he has shown me? It's different if I knew he was like that in the beginning, but everything he says is a direct contradiction of what he does and all I EVER asked for was the truth...

Like I said...I meant no harm towards you personally because you have been wonderful to me but I bet in relationships you do the exact same thing. LIE LIE LIE!

Do you know this guy actually had the nerve to say to me "I can't believe you are going to hold me accountable for every word I say!" With such indignation no less...

Well I used to want to be a lawyer so my brain is like a file cabinet and like Scarface says...All you have in this world is your balls and your word. So he has NOTHING!

Speaking of relationships...

Haffo have you ever had a long meaningful relationship and if you did...why did you guys break up...Just Curious...

CL

As I said before, I didn't have relationships with women.

Honestly speaking CL, I have many Pisces men friends in my life. And again, honestly speaking, they are the most direct and non-misleading people I know. I have discovered the same qualities in Pisces women as well. I can't understand why you people face them lying all the time.

My business here is to understand people and their behaviours in their relationships. I can't understand why do people need from each other beside the sex. Sex is natural need of every adult human being. But the rest here, is much more complicated and very complex which I didn't figure out yet.

All what I see in these posts of this forum is frusturations, problems, misunderstanding and so on. Total BS I would say. I didn't see many positive posts here on this forum. Why do people engage in a relationship and then feel all these frusturations? Wouldn't it will be much more effective to use their times to more constructive things?

Could any of you can explain me any reason to be engaged in a relationship for any positive meaning? Why should I try to figure a person out all the time when I am a reason to be in that situation in first place?

Many women tried to approach me during my life. I didn't gave them positive feedback due to two reasons. First reason, they seek a husband to look after them. There is no problem with that part. Quite understandable. Second reason, they want things that I can't understand yet. I try to figure that out here. I do know that I wouldn't get accepted if I ask them straight out "What do you want from me?". Altought this is the most effective and direct question, very few people will accept that as normal. At the end, it looks like that way is the only one way.

There is one possibility that comes in my mind. They want to grow emotionally when they close to another being. This is understandable too. But then, you don't need a lover for that. Just a friend is enough for it.

I also think that if I were a real player, I would play with all women that tried to approach me so far and maybe even had sexual intercourse. Would be I then a better person on others eye? Yes I would. But in my personal eye, I would be just a player. Do you know why it didn't happened? Because I'm not a liar or player.

My goal is to find an ultimate meaning to what is everyone would work with all their cells. This is what the soulstone of every relationship. This the meaning why people live together. This is what makes Pisces superior to other Signs. Most of the people I have seen so far always used every possibility to play with women. Many of them were really artistically excellent. You couldn't see a disguise in their ways. They were perfect. But, does that make them sincere, honest and worthfull people? In my eyes they are simply misery thats are trying to take advantage on immature women. I'm pity to these women. They are simply toys for these people. They are simply their sex objects. They always play with them and leave them when they done with them.

We do know what we want. We do know it perfectly. Do you know why we dont share it? Because most of you will toy with it, gain our hopes and throw it away when you will feel you done with it. Do you think we will give in easily in your second try?

About that light relationship:

What defines the intensity of the relationship? Your heart or your words? I guess it should be heart, but for you it seems to be words.

aquiella:

Tell me honestly, why did you start relationship with that person? You dont really feel anything towards him dont ya?

Gosh Cancerlady. I'm really sorry that fish treated you this way. Even though I am a Pisces myself, never been a huge fan of the male of my species. 😉 Are they all that way? No, I don't think so. A very dear friend of mine (who is a Capricorn) has been in a relationship with her Pisces for 7 years. He has never stepped out on her, and they have a very deep and loving relationship. He's very gentle and sweet to her. She told him from the beginning she was looking for a serious relationship, he said "Good, so am I." and that was that.

I think that we fishes are just too idealistic with everything. We want our idea of the perfect career, the perfect home, the perfect relationship..and this just doesn't exist in real life. Anything that we begin to see is NOT our idea of bliss, we tend to throw out the baby with the bathwater, sometimes to our own detriment. Sounds like to me he was trying to find a balance that matched that perfect "ideal" of a relationship. First, he's not getting enough of your time, then he's getting too much. Somewhere in between might have worked, but do you really need all this push me pull me bull $ hit? I don't think so. Sounds like to me you were d!mned if you do and d!amned if you don't. That's no way to live. Let that one swim away. It's his loss.

I'm a Pisces male. I've always been totally honest with the women in my life. I've had a few long term relationship and can promise you they haven't ended due to any lies or cheating on my part. I can only speak for myself but I can walk through life with my head held high knowing that I'm a stand up guy.

It's all quite amuzing that this topic was started by a cancer because in my experience, all the cancers I know have cheated on a partner at some stage. Even you Cancerlady have cheated on the guy this whole topic is about (unless of course oral sex isn't cheating). Call me stupid but I'm dating a cancer at the moment, should I be worried??.

I don't want to offend you Cancerlady but from what I get from your posts is that your relationship with Mr Pisces has never been that solid anyway. Maybe you need to take responsibility for some bad decisions of your own.

Hi Cancerlady. You remind me so much of one of my bestfriends who is a Cancer(she is the queen of drama lol and I'm the Princess) and she's had some of the same difficulties that you've had. She is also expecting right now and goes through her share of drama with her man who is a Capricorn. All I can say is that me being a Pisces woman I totally understand what you're going through with your Pisces man. My high school sweetheart was a Pisces and we were so in love but as I got older I just knew I couln't be with him because I knew he would cheat. Im not saying all Pisces men are like this but alot are. My advice just try to uplift him, be positive and reinforce him about your love and belief in him and step away for a little while (kind of a hard thing for a Caner to do. I know.) But I think it will work. Pisces men are very hard to try to figuire out at times but if you take the time to listen to him I mean really listen, he'll probably open up more and you'll began to find out more and more about his true feelings. I wish you the best.

~goldenlady

sorry my pisces is actually a good one,but he actually directs the bad stuff at the correct people right away.he's a little more aggressive than alot of other pisceseans are.i think it's more of the way that individual goes about problems,my own doesn't really take things out on himself when something bad happens.it's only his grandfathers death he took really hard and now he wants to kill my brother-n-law.he wants it all out in the open so it can be worked out.but have come across some like the ones mentioned i have a tendency to avoid them when single,things don't have to be that complicated so i don't like it.

although,how long were you and your pisces together aquiella?

Describe your approach or interaction towards the Piscean male. Are you aggressive, judgemental, controlling, possessive, playing martyr or victim etc. etc. etc. Alot of times if you are having problems with a Piscean male, it's because he's rebelling against whatever it is you are dishing out.

Latest discovery. A little agressive approach to P-Male will make them speak.

That's true. You cant be pissed off and stay calm at the same time.

You doing things very complicated. I dont know what you mean by "complaining about his needs while refusing to give", care to explain. But all I can see is that you are playing this game wrong. You said that you have feelings for him, while you focus your relationship on something else. How suppose I understand that? You wanted to stay light with him. What that suppose to mean now? Do you want him or no? There is no 20% or 80% amount you want him. It's either 0% or 100% . You say that he was great in the beginning. All that you say is contradiction to normal human behaviour who reacts by his heart.

BJ

You are absolutely right...but if you'll reread some of my earlier posts about him, you'll see that I have taken absolute responsibility for my actions. I said my hotness has finally caught up with me (although he is the only guy I have raw-dogged in a few years since college). The problem is that HE keeps blaming ME like I was the only one there! Like I am TRYING to trap him.

Why is that the first word me want to use when a woman gets pregnant anyway? Aren't I really the trapped one?

I am just mad because he has been doing nothing but lying the whole time to get his way when all I asked for was the truth. I despise nothing more in the world than a liar and a fake person. Like I said a million times before I knew when I met him he was not the type to be had, although his two prior relationships 9 & 7 years respectively kinda prove otherwise. HE asked for exclusivity, not me.

Cancerlady

Light relationship. That reminds me one thing. It reminds me self centered people. The people who care only about their own wellfare.

The relationship is a act that happens betwenn two people. It works for wellfare of each member of this relationship. It cannot be centered on one person. This is where it gets devasted. This is where it gets unfair. This is where it dies.

Also I think you simply playing with him. Your intentions in this relationship arent sincere. You demand different kind of things rather than your heart for the purporse I cannot understand. What that supposed to be mean now?

You say that you have feeling for him. When he asks you more, you think "What did I miss?". What did you miss? LOL! Brain perhaps. What is the center of your judgement? Your heart who said "I love him" or your intenstions that say "I need something else".

You know what at first I thought it was the Pisces guy who was at fault with this issue, but after seeing that Cancerlady admitted to lying at first? They both are at fault. I mean, from being on an astrology board, you should've known better that Pisces is the most emotional sign of the zodiac. They aren't shallow to have interest in a "one night stand" or "a fling". As a Pisces male, I can sense whether if a person was worth getting the best of me. I guess this Pisces guy must broke his sensors somewhere along the line for not picking up on the untruthful vibes from you. He caught feelings, but he got all "chickeny" because he felt like he make a HUGE mistake. That's why. Whenever you see that a Pisces get "chickeny" in some sort of way, it's not because we're scared, it's because that's our conscience giving us a warning of unseen dangers or potential problems.
Piscean look for long term and steady relationships, not flings. The way you went on bashing all Pisceans shows that you have no class.

Welcome Dreamy-Eyez. Another Pisces man on the roster.

Dreamy Eyes...

What did I admit to lying about? We kept everything at a friendship with benefits level until He decided to change it. NOT ME! The only reason I even dated other people during that time was because I would only see him like once a month!

We used to have so much fun before the whole "relationship" thing that HE and ONLY HE asked for but is blaming me now. How is that fair?

It was never a problem until I got pregnant...We had our disputes but as soon as this happened...I am all of a sudden such a big burden on his life and I harass him so much? COME ON! I never said I didn't do messed up stuff and yes I did cheat on him but come to find out he was still screwing his baby mama the whole time we were together...so who's to blame? Both of us...not just me.

Oh yeah and I thought I apologized for bashing the sign but if I didn't I'm sorry again but from what I have experienced and read on this board...They are no longer suitable for my tastes. He obviously wants his cake and eat it too. Wants to keep me on a leash while he does whatever. Not cool!

Haffo are you talking to me also? If so, I don't understand how a person can have a deep and meaningful relationship with a person who lies all the time. Aren't these relationships based on trust? Are his intentions so good if every sentence that comes out of his mouth is a lie? How can you be with a person that asks you to give yourself to them 100% then resents you for it later? If you don't have relationships how can you consider yourself such an expert at them if you've never experienced them?
What makes Pisces sign so perfect?

Cancerlady

On the weekend if I wanna see him its gotta be by his standards of timliness. I can't just hang out with my girls then come see him oh no. But then when he wants to do the same, or if his schedule has him running a little late I am alwasy understanding.

I can speak from the heart and tell him what is wrong with me what I would like and what I want. I can say all this without being insulting, but when he talks about displeasure he uses insulting words, harsh words that often hurt.


Wow...are you sure we aren't dating the same guy? CL

Acquiella...

This is just too scary for words! I mean this is almost the EXACT thing that happened to me! What is your sign if I may ask?

Cancerlady

Wow...You are an Aqua!

You ladies are the QUEENS of I need my space! I think we both got the downstream swimming Pisces men. The sad part is I still want him to be a part of my life!

We got along GREAT until this whole baby thing...then he COMPLETELY changed. I mean we used to have so much fun but also these deep intellectual conversations. I miss those days! I dealt with alot of his BS, but I refuse to deal with lies.

When I am told the truth...I can make an informed decision based on what really is. When I am fed a bunch of wolf tickets...how can I ever be sure where I stand with this person? It is impossible!

Did you say you guys are not in contact anymore?

CL

Oh well then Aquiella. You did the right thing. But I call this as a right because I think about it from your perspective. I dont think things would get like that if it were with me. I definetly think that you simply couldn't handle it.

"Haffo are you talking to me also? If so, I don't understand how a person can have a deep and meaningful relationship with a person who lies all the time. Aren't these relationships based on trust? Are his intentions so good if every sentence that comes out of his mouth is a lie? How can you be with a person that asks you to give yourself to them 100% then resents you for it later? If you don't have relationships how can you consider yourself such an expert at them if you've never experienced them?
What makes Pisces sign so perfect? "

Cancerlady. You, like Aquiella, simply couldn't able to handle him. As far as I've seen, you kept your frusturation back from him while let this frusturation grow and block your way. This is not even a relationship problem(!). This is simply Pisces wavelenght that you both couldn't catch. You think about P-Man as a liars. I understand. Really. I would think the same if I were doing exactly like that. But lady, when you deal with Pisces, you have to speak up your probelm no matter how big it is.

And speak them when they happen. Not 3214923 days after when 124234 problems accumulate. We simply become like "WTF? Why you didn't tell that before".

"Oh Haffo, I could DEFINATELY handle it."

Yes. You dumped it. Is that the way you handle it? Very creative and effortful I would say.

Wow the first replies will describe how I see my ex, but a little on a lighter side. From my experience, he is controlling, he gets jealous, sensitive, intense, passionate, nice... and he isn't hostile. He respected me and still does. As far as the mind games come along, I'm still debating on that one. Like someone said before, "they play you until they get what they want", I would never EVER put that past him. The pisces I know is a manslut, he is not known to cheat though. He breaks up if he feels that is going to be the case. I only know of him cheating one time. This pisces I know has been hurt in the past BRUTALLY. My experience with the Pisces was the best, to be truthful, I don't find what I want in Cancer, but I can in Pisces. Although, I think he plays games sometimes--because the stuff he does it outragous- he is not too big on games. He dated his ex's sister, dates in cicle of friends, he's just a handful!

When the Pisces that I know really is into someone you can tell, when he only wants them from a fun time you can tell. You can distinguish the good from the bad. Overall, the Pisces I know is confusing, I do not know what to really think.Deep down... I think he's wonderful. But on the surface... I hate him.

Another thing to add, he put me through a lot...I was at my worse when we broke up because he still would linger around and STILL does. But I do not blame him because I was an a-hole during the relationship, but he forgave me, later on.

"How can you call what I did dumping?"

"....So I kindly dropped him a nice e-card and broke up with his ass."

"Hey Haffo you don't give any slack for anything huh?"

You want a slack? Okay.