Scorpio winning Pisces back?

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I was in a very serious relationship with my Pisces male for almost 2 years. We were engaged and we had always believed that we would be together forever. He recently broke things off with me about a month ago. I can't blame him for what he did, I know I deserved it, but I could never see how I was towards him until this happened. I know I made a lot of big mistakes with him, and I'm just so stubborn that I can never admit when I'm wrong... but I did.. I cried.. and begged, and bought him gifts and wrote him love letters of apology, but nothing worked. I know I pushd him too far, but I want him back. I realize now that I don't have him, how much I really do love him and want to be with him, and I think this experience has just made me appreciate him for who he is even more. He told me that I need to grow up a bit and that I need to be independent again, I agree with him. I am getting counseling for my temper, and I'm even going back to church. But he won't talk to me, he told me that he never wants to talk to me or see me again, and that there was no way we could be friends again because he doesn't stay in conact with his ex's. But I'm the longest relationship he's ever had, even longer then his ex wife. I know that he is seeing someone else, and has been since the day we broke up, but I don't know if it's serious or not. I still stay in touch with his family because I was always close with them. They say that everytime they try to talk to him about it he just changes the subject or even leaves. He actually called me today, I was shocked... he told me that he had a terrible dream that my dad was going to die... that he was going to get really sick.. and he saw me at the funeral crying my eyes out.. he said he woke up crying from it. It really shoked me and I started to cry.. so we just started talking, and it was just like old times... we were laughing and everything.. but I ruined it when I started to tell him how sorry I was for everything, he didn't want to hear it, he said that he's still in another relationship but our paths might cross again in the future. He told me to call him and let him know how things turned out. What can I do to get him back? Is there any hope at all for me? I don't want to give up on him because I love him so much, and I would do anything to get him back. I need input from Pisces, I know how stubborn you can be, but I really am changing... I just love him soo much.. I want him back. I am posting it here as well to get mor

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Uh....yes they can S702.

The reason I happen to know this is because one of my bestest Piscean female pals shuts people out of her life quite easily. If they mess with her then she has no time for them and once she is done, she is done.

Maybe not all Pisces are like her...I dunno - there a a lot of the "fishies" here who will no doubt share their wisdomfilled words with you.

I wish you the best S702
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I am not sure if this will help - (I do have my Venus in Pisces)

Once someone shows me a part of their character that I know I will not tolerate along with knowing it is just who they are - I will release myself from that "distructive" situation and move on.

For most persons, once the relationship is over - it is usually over.

In a healthy relationship if there was a problem, the two individuals would have a desire to work it out knowing it was salvagable. It appears to me that he knows it isn't going to work and therefore, ended it.

It is time for you now to focus on yourself - get back up on your feet and change some things if you think that something needs improvement.

You will someday again be in another relationship and with a better understanding....

trust me on this...it is life and this is what happens.

We engage, we learn, we leave, we learn, we engage - .........
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no he isnt trying to confuse you. scorp, as i said before, i will say again, when pisceans love you, they love you hard. and he may still love you. that doesnt mean that he is IN love with you.

he may need time to heal himself and come back to you but then again, he could be gone. I have disappeared on guys before because of their stupidity, but then again, those were guys that i didnt love. the ONLY man i have ever loved and havent kept in contact with is my scorp. it's too painful for both he and i. he wants to get back and i dont. i could never again with him. but that's me. give it a little time.

how long has it been anyway?
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truest statement ever. some people come into your life for a lifetime, always there with you. some people come into your life for a season, just there to put you through an experience for you to learn something. now how you take the lesson is on you, but you were supposed to learn something.

everything doesnt always end the way you want it to, but later on you will see that it ended the way that it was supposed to end. take the lesson and work on you, kid. you're probably a very beautiful person. why dont you focus on that beautiful person and let her shine through, to make it on her own. strengthen her. love her. be her.
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Yes, my Aunt Kathy and she knows about the whole thing, I talk to her every day about it, and every day it does get a little better... but it worries me that she was with her ex for 10 years and he found another... and it's been 3 years and she's still not completely over it... even though she's seeing new guys and doing her own thing... she still hasn't let go... and I don't want that to be me... and I'm trying not to let it be.. but it's hard.. She tells me that I'm stuck on stupid because he's my first love and everyone gets stuck on stupid with their first love, I know she's right, she's always right abotu everything... she said that the only way I could get him back is by ignoring him and everyone associated with him for a very long time... and then maybe try to talk to him... because by then he will have forgotten all about me and moved on, so if I did call in a few months, there will be no more anger or hostility... and then I could start from scratch with him... I think it might work.. and I'm willing to give it a shot. Do you think that might work?
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dont worry scorp, you'll find yourself. that's what twenties is about. finding yourself. discovering who you are and believe me, it's a liberating experience. im 24 and im still doing the trial an error thing. just ask PP, she knows, im still bumping into walls just like you are.

love yourself first before you love anyone else. i know everything hurts right now, but you've got your entire life ahead of you and you have to realize that you live and you learn. that's the beauty of life. you mess up, sure. you lose what you love, you sure do, but you get to try again. just remember a quote that i got from a movie,i find that it works for me.

Beginnings are scary, Endings are usually sad, But it's the Middle that counts. You need to remember that when you find yourself at the beginning... kinda like you are now. it's a new beginning. make the most of it and be happy honey!
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Geeez, when my son still lived at home, every weekend was wall fixing time .. if his fists would have just found the same place every time .. life would have been easier for my husband .. but, NO, he had to make a new hole every time.

Damn Scorpio's .. love 'em to death, though.

Is she still in here, trying to figure all this out? I was being mean, so I had to stop, I just couldn't find words that were supportive. Did you guys help her? Is she ok, now?
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i tried helping her. i hope that she will be okay.

damn scorpios always punch a different place in the wall. my scorp destroyed a $ 2000 keyboard with a barbell once because he was mad at me. he ripped everything off the wall but when he smashed that keyboard, i just knew his ass was INSANE! it was his own keyboad too. I was just like oh my stars, this negro is ill.
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I do feel a little better, I just called his sister, and she wants me to come out for her neice's birthday... me and John were always the ones who did the partys and decorations... but I am glad that she still wants me there, she's even offering to come pick up in Pahrump over an hour away and wants me to stay for a few days. I love his family so much, I am so glad that even though I am not with him anymore, they still care about me and want me around, they know that me and John had our ups and downs, but even his mom said that he was happy when he was with me, and they know I love them all no matter what... it's just nice to know that they didn't just put up with me for his sake, that they actually like me for me... makes me feel a lot better...
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But I still just can't let him go!!! Even though I know deep down inside that he will never return to me... why can't I just accept that? Something in my heart won't let me give up... or maybe I'm just crazy... but I feel better for a while... and then I just revert back to me missing him more then I did before... and I just want him back that much more... I just love him so much.. and it hurts so much to know that he'll never be with me again... why can't I just let it go... I know that he won't come back... but there's a part of me that refuses to accept it... I don't understand why... I lose all hope and then I regain it back just as fast...
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Well how does that apply to my situation... he knows I'm not a bad person... and he knows I made mistakes... but he won't get over it... everone has said that there is nothing I can do... I've never felt so unable to do anything about something in my life... I admited that I was wrong... and I never do... and he's being the jerk now... I know I deserve it but enough is enough... we both still care about eachother whether he admits it or not, and I know that we can work through this and get better... but why won't he work on it too? I mean.. I know he's lazy and won't try at anything... maybe that's what it is... he actually has to try and just doesn't want to... reverting even more now...
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Scorpio702

I understand that explaining it in logical and clear way is very difficult. Hell, perhaps even not posssible under current situations. But what I know is that I know. Nobody is bad person. We just too confused about ourselves and simply dont know how to deal with situations. If that will make you feel easier, take it reversed. If you are not a bad person for him and he knows this, then same is true for you.
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Well, I have come to the realization that many pisces just SWIM AWAY... I don't understand that... if you love someone then you always make it work... you don't just give up when things get too hard... that's taking the easy way out... when things get hard you work on it and become better because of it... how can you love someone sooo much and say well it's not going to work... you know why it won't work? Because pisces doesn't want to, because pisces would rather just give up and move on, and no no no, it doesn't matter if you change for them, it doesn't matter if you make yourself a better person or say your sorry or cry, no none of that matters, because pisces is so selfish and blind that all they can see is that it can't work, instead of trying to find a way to make it work, it's always the easy way out. I get it now, I will never get my pisces back because he's so selfish and blind, and he always has been, even his parents warned me of that... and I should've listened... and this is my fault and I know it. But it hurts... and I wish that he wasn't so selfish... and I wish that he would just try for once in his life!!! He's never tried at anything... and I guess he never will... 😢
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How am I doing the same thing? I'm very hurt, and I'm facing my hurt head on, and I admitted I was wrong... and I cry everyday and all I can think about and dream about is him, and everything reminds me of him, I'm not trying to avoid it, I'm letting it all come to me, I just want it to stop... I don't want to keep thinking about him constantly and dreaming of him... I want to be able to just turn him off in my head and I can't. And it makes me mad that he's just avoiding it all together, at least I can admit that I'm totally depressed about this, and I know that he is too, but he's not admiting it... because he's a coward...
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First of all, relax. You are not going anywhere any soon.

Second, you already know that he feels the same. You have said this yourself. Therefore, he can't be a bad person.

Third, you are doing the same thing just like he does...leave and run away. Who wins then?

And the last, as I said above, logic does not work. Faith does. Faith is the key to Pisces. If you can win his faith in you, he will be with you no matter what you say. Strange isn't it? When he belives in you, he belives no matter what you say = logic cannot crack that belief and when he loses belief in you again = logic cannot crack him and bring him back.

Think about it.
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I see... that makes sense oddly enough.. well how can I win his faith in me back? I know that it was there for a very long time... so how can I make him believe in me again? Throwing all logic out... what can I do? A part of me believes still that we are truly meant to be together and that this had to happen in order for me to see the "light" but a part of me feels completely helpless and that I will never get him back. How can you get a pisces to believe in you again?