America has lost democracy

America has lost democracy

Americans just don't realize democracy is dead in their country. Its now run by a group of oligarchs consisiting of lobbyists and conglomerates. Seriously, how can a 2 party system be democratic? You people should fix your country's system before poking your fingers into other people's political systems.

If America is truly free, even a bum would have a chance to be the president. But clearly thats not the case.

Actually the uk and canadian governments have no senate system to pass through, hence our prime ministers technically have much more power and say in in vital national and gloabal decisions then do presidents. I'm not sure; but perhaps it's a postive thing to belong to a british monarchy...

I don't know too much about american politics, but what is the job of a senate anyway? In reality, don't they assume way too much veto power over the president. I think if someone is elected to power, their word and decisions should basically stand alone. That's what they were elected in power for, to make those tough decisions, and be supported for them.

"If America is truly free, even a bum would have a chance to be the president. But clearly thats not the case."

A bum won't become president because they will not take the responsibility upon themselves to take control of their life in a way that would allow them to do so. Freedom and liberty is not about relying on others to get you where you go, to govern everyones life so that their personal accomplishments are meaningless.

Freedom and Liberty is about the opposite. It is about having the personal choice, the integrity and conviction to make yourself the person you want to become. It is a responsibility to ones self, not everyone elses responsibility to them. Your responsibility to others is to make yourself the best person you can, that is how true good is achieved.

Get back to us when you understand that of which you speak.

Primegen,

There are two ways we can get that back. We can force everyone to contribute via policy and laws or we can start helping each other again. I am for the latter as government programs usually result in sucking taxpayer money dry anyway by deploying the plans and models in the least efficiant way possible.

So many people in our country have an out of control sense of entitlement. Everyone believes they are special, and that they deserve more than others without any kind of contribution.

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someone sent this to me - interesting.

"It starts in the schools and youth groups this entitlement nonsense."


It starts at home.

Nah.....P, I didn't have those issues in my home.

Whats the difference between democracy and tyranny if power is concentrated in the hands of the few?
Surely people from any background can come to power from both tyrannies and democracies. As far as I am concerned, democracy and tyranny is only better than monarchy, where the throne is passed down a bloodline and no one outside it can come to power. The voting is just a facade. You have a choice of candidates to vote for, but its not really a choice is it if you can only choose between these same candidates in the voting process?

If, America is a republic, then how come Bush keeps mentioning the word democracy in his speeches?
The analogy of the bum is just to point out then any ordinary citizen can has a chance of becoming the president or hold high political office. But In America, to run for president,you need at least $ 60 million and alot of political connections. What odds does an ordinary citizen have to meeting these
requirements? What political power does a citizen have other than deciding the candidates that are already chosen?

Maybe the government should be run (or at least, in part) like a business enterprise or corportation. I think the BIG bucks, rhetoric and cobwebs of the old boys club has come and gone a long ago; time for some fresh new, maybe even younger blood in our leaders...leaders with fresh new ideas, entrepreneural drive, and humanitarian spirit. Out with the repetitive bureaucracy and red-tape; as well the over-paid bureaucratic double-speak senate. It very well could be that firefighter, that guy delivering pizza, the waitress pouring your coffee. You just never know what potentials lurk in the minds of the ordinary joe or jane. Of course, i agree, not all will have potential; far from it, proof, cedibility and acumen must always be apparent. But it's the chance, the hope of a dream for all; because it's the people who are the driving force that makes the country what it is today. (The people and for the people, first.) That too, is how i would define Democracy at its finest and truest.. Just think what potentials could be out there, walking right past us everday, and not even know it. *i also think it's easier to teach someone politics then the humanitarian side of things. Some things in life you just have to be born with. The importance of emotional intelligence and humanity first and foremost, in our future leaders should never be underestimated. 'For Man has duties in life, not power over the people..'

"Democratic political tradition has long held that government should be subject to the consent of the governed because individuals have a right to liberty, and this right implies that they have a right to participate in the political decisions that affect them."

"Whats the difference between democracy and tyranny if power is concentrated in the hands of the few?"

Interesting point; although we have many political parties here in my country; it's always a race between either the conservative or liberal governments.

"Whats the difference between democracy and tyranny if power is concentrated in the hands of the few?"

That on it's own would more accurately fall into the category of elitism rather than tyranny in regards to the U.S. which I will completely concede too. Our government isn't tyrannous....yet. They just have their heads up their asses. It could conceivable take a turn in that direction which is the very purpose for which we have the second ammendment.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse form the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."

US debt could trigger dollar collapse, UN warns

Fucking Americans never had Democracies... they don't even know how to write it let alone spell it, are you kidding me..??


The shit they are exporting is (our way)..

Somebody tell me what kind of democracy is responsible of killing millions of innocent people..??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6704767.stm<BR>
Should working on stupid primping. And this retorted (qui vadis) errrr stupid suvant and co... Or what ever fuck he/she chose to be in the future. And solitass?lamo?

What the hell this fucking US EHH does at 96 place..??




Exporting something.?? kind of peace.??

(Grammer)? lol?.



You know that... couple of typos has nothing to do with grammar, as always.. fuck you too

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Read the message instead, asshole

Qbone, just ignore that guy. You don't have to be infallible to speak. You get bashed even if you say the right thing in this forum, Thats y i couldn't care less.