The Peace Presidents

The Peace Presidents

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/09/1067/<BR>
Just to convincing the ASSHOLES...

Inconvenient truth..??

On Feb. 8, 2004, George W. Bush proudly proclaimed to Tim Russert on ?Meet the Press,? ?I am a war president.? Like an 8-year-old playing with toy soldiers, Bush, an Air National Guard dropout, (the famous fuck that even his asshole buddies in national guard rejecting its existence) looked at war with vicarious enthusiasm. Contrast the attitude of the nation's ?peace presidents? - supreme commanders who led the nation to victory in the greatest wars the country faced: men who had experienced the grim reality of battle and wanted no part of it.

Ulysses S. Grant condemned war as ?the most destructive and unsavory activity of mankind.? Surveying the carnage at Fort Donelson during the Civil War, he told an aide, ?this work is part of the devil that is left in us.?

Dwight D. Eisenhower, another former general, was equally outspoken: ?I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, as only one who has seen its brutality, its futility and stupidity?. War settles nothing.?

Both Grant and Eisenhower were elected with expectations that they would put a victorious end to conflicts in which the country was then engaged. Both presidents did end the fighting. But not in ways that their bellicose supporters anticipated.

In Grant's case, the frontier was ablaze, and it was widely assumed that the general-in-chief who had bested Robert E. Lee would make quick work of the Plains Indians who were slowing the nation's westward expansion. That bet was misplaced. Grant admired the integrity and life style of Native Americans and ordered an end to the slaughter. He reined in Generals William Tecumseh Sherman and Philip Sheridan (who seemed bent on annihilation), dispatched a brace of ?humanitarian generals? to the West, provided aid and comfort to entice the tribes onto reservations, and replaced corrupt Indian agents with Quakers. ?Grant's peace policy? - as it is called by historians - brought peace to Great Plains without racial genocide.

Twice more Grant faced down the hawks clamoring for war - first with Great Britain, then with Spain. British-American relations had not recovered from the Civil War for several reasons: Irish-American expatriates were conducting cross-border raids into Ontario; conflicting claims to fishing rights in the North Atlantic often resulted in bloodshed; a boundary dispute in the Pacific Northwest lay unresolved; and the unpaid claims from Union shipping losses continued to fester.

Grant rejected the possibility of a military solution, and with the cooperation of the Gladstone government in Britain, he submitted the issues to arbitration. This marked a breakthrough in the settlement of international disputes and paved the way for the Anglo-American accord that survives to this day.

The issue with Spain involved Cuba. Portions of the island were in revolt against Spanish rule, and American public opinion demanded intervention on the side of the rebels. Grant not only refused, but deployed the Navy to prevent American freebooters from joining the conflict.

In 1952, Eisenhower was elected with the expectation he would win the war in Korea. After the election Ike went to Korea, measured the situation firsthand, and concluded the war was unwinnable. Without hesitation he negotiated an armistice. After Eisenhower made peace in Korea, not one American serviceman was killed in combat during the next eight years.

Like Grant, Eisenhower believed the United States should never go to war unless national survival was at stake. He resisted calls for preventive war against China and Russia, reached out to the Soviet Union after Stalin's death and slashed the Defense Department budget. He declined to take military action to defend the Chinese offshore islands of Quemoy and Matsu, stepped aside when Hungary exploded in 1956 and refused to deploy American forces in situations that might lead to combat without Congressional authorization.

When the National Security Council - Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, Vice President Richard Nixon and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff - unanimously recommended the use of nuclear weapons at Dien Bien Phu to rescue the beleaguered French garrison, Eisenhower summarily rejected the proposal. ?You boys must be crazy,? he told Robert Cutler, the national security adviser. ?We can't use those awful things against Asians for the second time in less than 10 years. My God.?

In 1956, when Britain, France and Israel colluded to invade Egypt, Eisenhower forced them to withdraw, toppling Anthony Eden's government in London and threatening financial reprisals against Israel. That repudiation of what Ike called ?old fashioned gunboat diplomacy? not only kept the peace but enhanced American prestige throughout the world.

George Bush and the neocons have no monopoly on glorifying military adventure. Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's secretary of state, caused General Colin Powell a case of near cardiac arrest when she asked at a meeting of the National Security Council, ?Why do we have an Army if we are not willing to use it??

War is not an instrument of policy. It is an act of desperation. ?Any course short of national humiliation or national destruction is better than war,? Grant told Prince Kung of China in 1879. ?War itself is so great a calamity that it should only be invoked when there is no way of saving a nation from a greater [one].?

Jean Edward Smith, the John Marshall Professor of political science at Marshall University, in Huntington, W. Va.

Opps solitass.. kind of late for your crap? what was you 4th nick..?? I know already the3rd.. lmao.


Your bullshits already made my statements more valid?. Did you know that..?

Or shall I hide this comment as you did with you other comment on other post..??

LMAO..

You can not fool me asshole.. I've told you before..

LMAO?

our civilizations and blah blah bla? what ever crap

Since when the savages and the barbarians got civilisations..??

Topic is about America and their stupid decider as a leader (now is re nicked as the Commander guy) you loser? don't try to change it?lmao.. as you may not know know, your world is all about USA? while the rest of the world laughing and shitting on the USA thanks for the bushits like you.

Get the link...

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070510/480/e40d7495b8bf4846aaed7db81fd3db3b<BR>

Beautiful sight for the sore eyes? I've told you retards before, a year ago? wait until the new war with the Iran you'll get I at 10 $ or more?!



Irresponsibility of the stupid American's politic (the whore). It's not anyone's fault but the AMERICANS?!

Solutions? occupy and deploy the stupid army and marines , kill more people to get it CHEAP?!....LMAO

Now blame it on Chavez oil or Statoil or whatever that is not in accord with your stupid American dreams and wishes.

Knock.. Knock----The reality is here??!





?Hush Q? don't wake the idiots up?!)

This is what you rednecks are good for? our faults.. but, blame on others?.

Lol

No primepig..

I don't blame, I am not the one who running the world but I'll take those who are claiming as world's supershit like UH.ESS.EHH? responsible for the mess.

Moi? racist..?? how come..?? since when Americans became a race..??

other people's stuff only proving you can't form an opinion or reason based statement of your own.

Other people's comments and articles are the same as mine.. why do I have o retype things that's already there..??

Wasting my time to convince idiots like you?... are you out of your mind..??


lol

Ohh

Those that white Americans hate them so much..??

An African Canadians never say that I am African Canadian?.. he/she is simply Canadian and proud of?.

No imagine the Americans and their racist behaviour that produced Malcolm X and martin Luther etc?.

Who do you kidding? really..?

You have no idea what race relations are like here, you are too much of a racist to know. You said yourself, you hate Americans, thus you have labeled yourself a racist.

now you accusing me tosome thing that is total LIE?.never said that I hate Americans? is that all you can come up with..??

opposing is not like hating?!

You sure that you don't work for the US media..??... you LIE too much..

Typical Americanism to manipulating the words and their meaning

lol

Listen little boy and listen carefully?go and read the history for God sake?you may not get better but you'll be wiser next time when you start your baseless accusations ? !

that you hate Americans,

Its DXP and its library? point it out where I said that, its all there.. dig it up to prove your bullshits..

Or else all you said about me and my comments are baseless crap?!


Deal..??

And please.. take your manipulative boo hoo's somewhere else?!

What I say at least has some links to prove it.. (if its not my own writings)?.go on? dig it up? its all here

Regarding to your crap?


I've had the similar stuff with parallax long before you pop in to this forum, I don't repeating myself?

Dig it up and find the truth..

To be against is not as hate? my life's records shows that I am no racist.. Americans are not RACE..!

Stop being manipulative?..

READ boy...READ...dont answer like a bitch.. READ and THINK...!

damn it..

you hate Americans, you have said that in many ways here both direct and indirect

lmao.. manipulations again?!

I can back up what I say

then back up your accusations about me and my posts by pointing at them?

right..?? its all here..!

Tell us that I said a single racist word.. or comments about races?.

You are full of crap..!

shut up primepig..

You won't win this race by pointing on those manipulative nonsense's you are talking about... you are not worth the bullshit let alone debate?

Continue on your crap?!

Thank you? I didn't know your manipulative nature.. now I know? !

Here's another fun gem of your racist ways "You guys in US are not human ...!"

yeah.. any problem with that..?? you are American.. not human..! simple as that.. whats wrong with this comment..??..??

you don't say GOD BLESS HUMANS but GOD BLESS AMERICA right—

So you are American.. not human?.


lol

By saying this you insulting all human race on earth... (but the americans of course)?

Who's the racist here..??

Lmao...

Is that manipulations to you..??


Roflmao?.

Look at the mess the Americans have done to the world in 50 wars after wwII and the blood bath created by the GOD BLESS AMERICA and IN GOD WE TRUST?.


Again? stop bitching and start pray to the same god that he/she will someday forgive Americans acts of MURDER and their BLIND supports for their voted/beloved butchers called commander in chief(s)?

http://www.countercurrents.org/us-echison110106.htm<BR>
the author put it very nice? if it was me??well? you know..!

Again?. Descendants of thieves/rubbers/murderess/cheaters/manipulators/criminals/outcasts etc. of the Europe and elsewhere in the world acting like their ancestors again...

The fun part is.. they are developing the self righteous senses as well something like that they are master of the world..


Norway's version of God save the Queen Hey, we don't have that

you don't have nothing but stock brokers/WalMarts/burger craps/fat men and women and cheap Chinese made American flags?

opps..

Sorry to insulting humans as fat (men and women).. they are human and part of the humanity too..

I meant fat things that says (GOD BLESS AMERICA)?

Again? sorry..

hahha?.


Stop bitching around? !

ohhh FATS are race too..?? wow