Hitler and Paganism

I was just curious if anyone around dxpnet was knowledgeable about this subject. I couldn't really find much else on the web, well nothing more than I had already heard. I've heard a few stories over the years about him being very connected a Pagan religion. Possibly Druidism? I don't know which exactly. Not only Hitler but much of the 3rd Reich was supposedly involved as well. I guess that it's possible but I still find it hard to believe that a guy like Hitler and the rest of the 3rd reich sitting around a roundtable holding hards with their eyes closed chanting "Ohm" or whatever chant. I'm just curious as to much of this is fact and fiction. I've heard heard other ridiculous things about Hitler over the years like "that he was actually part Jew" and "He was gay" etc.

BTW I am not a fan of Hitler in any way at all. I'm just curious. I've actually become interested in Celtic Druidism recently.

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I am the only one around here to give the info you need..

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He is so full of shit, as a pagan I take offence to even connecting Hitler to this the oldest religion. Hitler was a christian why else make war. We pagans make orge's.

Well then don't hold back Qbone!

JT, I was just asking a bloody question. Not passing it off as fact. But even though I don't really believe that he was a pagan I also doubt he was a Christian. He probably wanted to be as far away from any Judeo religions as possible.

Hitler messed around with pretty much all religions he knew of.He even had a personal psychic if I think=not very christian.If I remember correctly,the jew thing was more race based than it was on just the religion part alone,he didn't like them being allowed the same opportunities or something as the germans.All of the mystical/spiritual/supernatural stuff was big with him and his time.

"bloody question"

I see that in many British texts and speeches. What kind of meaning does this adjectvie add?

The "bloody" part.

ITS kind of a curse word we used it before the americans came up with fuck,

And what kind of meaning it does add?

Lazlow...!!

thanks man.. for trusting me......



To know Hitler... you?ll need to approach him personally...

Eg. Psychologically /politically and emotionally? with an open mind and without being infected by these media and propaganda garbage?s that poisoning our minds for over 60 years?!

Hitler is one of my fave historical characters.. not in the racial ways.. but his thoughts?!
He was an honest man.. right from the beginning.. true to himself and his followers, he never betrayed them.. and he?d never lied both to himself.. or the others.

What he hated was pure hate and it was his pure love.!

Killing 6 mill Jews..??..

You gotta be kidding me if you believe on it?!

It is still under the question..! 600,000 is the highest score.. but.. Hitler did it personally..?? or ordered it..??


HOLOCAUST AND ANTI-SEMITISM..??.....BS? it is part of the Khazar Jews (known as converted Jews) and westerns political propaganda machines..

As I had my battle with idiot parallax before..(now is known as &Toto2 or something even more idiot like sine-qua-non,,hehe.. ?never mind those clowns?!?

About Hitler?..

Adolf Hitler was born on 20th April, 1889, in the small Austrian town of Braunau near the German border. He wasn?t German.. lol

Anyway? he was interested in paganism and mumbo jumbos of supernatural powers and superstitions?(like the way American regime do.. ?don?t you know that..?? they have their own astro ?witch? to foresee things? right in the white house..


About Hitler again?.!

Though Adolph Hitler was baptized Catholic as an infant, he did not practice the Faith later in life. In fact, he completely rejected Christianity as an adult, since he thought it was a "weak" religion because of its emphasis on peace and forgiveness. Instead, Hitler favored a militaristic and racist mishmash of ?neo-paganism? and ?occultism?, which he considered more suitable for the so-called "Aryan supermen" whom he thought would take over the world.

Here are some quotes which show what Hitler thought of Christianity:

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," -- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

Definitely not the words of a good Catholic!

But LAZLOW— you are asking for his paganism? he didn?t follow the paganism.. not even neo-paganism, he was interested in ?witch craft?, and occultism.

Modern people ?and *new generation*? have difficulty to understanding the Nazis and what caused them to commit such atrocious acts of barbarity in our supposedly *civilized world*.

The murder of Jews was an act of hatred. Regrettably such acts of *ethnic* and *racial* hatred are all too common in history, although not on the scale and ruthless efficiency pursued by the Nazis. The murder of children at first selected and then rejected from the ?Ebensburg Eindeutschung (Feminisation) program? seems incomprehensible.

For Himmler the elimination of these children was necessary because their racial makeup would pose a threat to the NAZI *New Order*. NAZI cosmology and the occult which provide further insights on Hitler and the NAZI mindset.!


In order to better understand the ?Hitlerism? and the submission of all a people to the theory of the ?Nazism? that caused 20 million deaths, it is necessary to know than Hitler was a clashing mixture of paranoia and mediumistic position.

World War I

Hitler's fascination with the occult and its influence on this regime were suppressed during his lifetime. Much of the symbolism, the torchlight parades, the SS runes, and the Nazi swastika, all reflect occult origins. As World War I opened, the British Foreign

Note the *new generation* *Ethnic cleansing* *Racial problems* and the *new word order*

I m telling you another story about those.. (practiced by American regimes) since world war II.

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And people think I am craze. Read The Last Lion by william Manchester. you will see how hitler lied and how he went back on every agreement he made. If it werent for the cowards of my goverenment (that let him get away with it) He would have been stoped when he went into france..

JT.. I don?t know about that book.. never read it.

But the history ?psychoanalysis? (my version says something else).!! It is what I believe perhaps truth is something else.. what said is what I think?!

perhaps you are right.. who knows..

For americans bloody would be a version of freakin haffo,it's brittish slang.

Here is the links for Thule society?.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/v/vr/vril.htm<BR>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society<BR>
http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html<BR>
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/t/th/thule_society.htm<BR>
Most inhuman group of RICH people...! Those who are in control of our FATE AND DESTINY—GLOBALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

Again.. I have tons of those links and information?ask me please if you wanted to study those.. closely

I?ll be around if you ever need me?!

lol Tiamat....

Did Tiamat and JT answer your question haffo? I'm actually a bloody yankee (an American) But whenever I talk to Brits I will always say bloody, and Tate is a bloody Welshman. hahaha

Tiamat that's actually the first time that I've heard about Hitler dabbling in any religions that he knew of. What other religions were there that he got involved with?

No Qbone that was a great amount of info, thank you. I should have said "Occultism" in the first place. I guess I never really knew the difference. I thought it was just a form of Paganism. Because here in America anyone who is not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim is pretty much considered a pagan. I don't know how they distinguish them in Europe. So there were many factors that played into Hitler's belief system. The part about the Secret Societies was especially interesting. But I would always wonder how a man with such a strong mind like Hitler would blindly accept stuff that Himmler, Horbiger etc.. would tell him. I guess when you are so deeply routed in that kind of belief system you'll believe all of that stuff about the Aryan Supermen etc.. Also, when Hitler would say that he believed that the "Aryan Race" was supreme, does that necessarily mean the "White Race"? Because I know that Aryans are considered a European sub-race kind of like Celtics, Slavs, Latins (Meds) etc.. It has also been said that Hitler was not very fond of the Russian people and that him as well as most Germans at that time just considered them to be barbarians.

But as crazy as Hitler was. No one ever said he was stupid. He came very close to taking over the world. Another thing that I wanted to mention was about Nostradamus' possible predictions of Hitler. On the last show I watched about the Nazis and the Occult. Nostradamus supposedly predicted that their would be 3 different anti-Christs. Those historians who are educated on Nostradamus believe that Napoleon Bonaparte was the first one and Hitler was the second. But like you said Qbone, modern media has pretty much just become a propaganda machine, and will use anything to push their propaganda. So I take most of it with a grain of salt.

Tate, I haven't heard of The Last Lion either. I will look for it.

Damn, there's so much more that I want to mention but I'm too damn tired right now. lol

Thank you again lazlow...I am glad that to be helpfull...! you takecare

[quote] Nostradamus supposedly predicted that their would be 3 different anti-Christs. Those historians who are educated on Nostradamus believe that Napoleon Bonaparte was the first one and Hitler was the second.[/quote]

To our version.. There are only two antichrist.. President BUSH.. both senior and junior..3rd is to come.. and may GOD help us all..

damn site still does not support (bb) codes... sorry

Lazlow where do you live in the states no address just the general area like New York or St Louis?

Thank you again, Qbone. I haven't checked out those links yet but I will. But you gotta be kidding me about Bush being the antichrist. You do know that he is too stupid to be an antichrist, dont you? lol In fact, you may not have known this but Bush's approval rating has dropped to only 40% ! So that means about half of the people who supported his war in 2003 have wised up! I feel most sorry for Tony Blair, he really got screwed. Many Brits that I have talked to online have nicknamed him "Tony Bliar". lol

Hahaha Kerry, you know that you love Hitler! j/k ....But I do you remember hearing some about Nietzsche's influence on Hitler. I just never knew that Nietzsche had some of those extreme views. I knew that he was much anti-religion. But I thought that he was very peace loving and believed in equality. But I really didn't know that much about Nietzsche to begin with. I'll look at those links that you gave as well.

Mr. Tate, I live in Oklahoma. Which is a border state of Missouri. I have been to St. Louis many times though. It's around a 6 hour drive from where I live.

Well,like you posted everything that's not catholic,muslim,jewish,athism is pagaism here and now.Back in Hitler's day and time it wasn't so vague so he had to do some snooping to get his occultism/witchcraft info.Runes are from norse religions and the german alphabet,odin is how they were created.Astrology and numorology is ancient greece religion derieved,etc.If he was anything religion wise he followed gnosticism and as Q described it's secret knowledge combining elements of mythology,ancients religions and christianity-which that wasn't true as mentioned.Tarot cards are a big question mark as to where they originated from,some theories are that they are from egypt,hebrew,hindu,etc. noone knows for sure.

Yes lazlow. You are correct, I was joking with bush as an antichrist..!

And I am sorry to insulting antichrist?!

He can?t be so idiot and stupid?. Again.. I was joking.. and I am sorry if my humour wasn?t fit the picture?

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Yeah,lazlow as you could probably already tell im not much of the hitler buff and it's the old religions is what im more interested in lol,his name pops up alot in some research I do on religions and myths,hence the name tiamat if you were to google it you'd get two versions,she was a good goddess to the sumerian religion but babylonian took over and she was turned into an evil breeder of demons and dragons as well as a band by that name.

Im a big rpg gamer and part of the fun in those are characters,allys,bosses and creatures that have text behind them that you can find in librarys.Picked up writing story lines and sketching the characters as a hobbie so I do alot of reading in terms of old religions and mythology.Hitlers religions/occult/witchcraft stuff comes up alot doing that.

Haha Qbone I knew that you were joking about that. Bush is anti-a lot of things. Like anti-intelligence, anti-small government, but not anti-christ lol.

That's okay Tiamat you still provided some good info. What kind of RPG's do you play? I used to play a lot of console RPG's like the Final Fantasy games. Some of my friends play computer RPG's like Everquest II and World of Warcraft and they tried to get me into them, but I never got around to it. I only play a fun RTS game now. I plan on learning more about the old Celtic Druidism and maybe some old Native American pagan religions. I'm very proud of my Irish, English and Native American ancestry!

Well guys I still haven't read all of the links that you provided, lots of 'em lol! But it's still been some very interesting reading so thank you Qbone and Kerry! But as I told Kerry on another board I'll be offline for awhile so I'll get back to reading it when my PC is done. So later guys, talk to you in awhile!

Consoles again too.Final fantasy is one of my favorite series of games,as well as kingsfeilds except for the newest one,lunar 1&2 and the chron games are among my favorites.


Im half native american(cherokee mainly with a bit of apache) as well,what I can tell you thusfar is it's a little more openminded towrds alot of things except towards disregard of mother earth and nature thats the main no no.I'll see if I can find some good links for you.

Okay thanks Tiamat.

I'm only a quarter NA but I also have Cherokee and another tribe called Seneca-Cayuga. Do you happened to practice any of these religions?

Ah,finally back online from the little computer mishap I see,okay.No,not really following devotely,I don't throw myself into any reiligion as of yet.About the only thing I do is make dream cathers.Okay,first things first,don't buy anything except for maybe books and expect them to be spiritual for you such as premade medicine bags,protection sheilds,dreamcathers,etc.Everything has to be made personally by you to have them work for you in the sense that they were intended to work.There's alot of stuff thats interveined with catholicism/wicca/other religion and whackjobs who are looking for cash so be weary of what you come across.

Go to this site first;
http://www.native-language.org/religion.htm<BR>
This link has alot of good books to read up on;
http://www.asu.edu/archives/religion.htm<BR>
What I will tell you is you won't be finding much about good and evil,death isn't as feared as with other reiligions and is only natural so you won't be finding much of that suff.Sprirts are in everything,everyone and there isn't going to be no sudden end to it basically,afterlife is just meaning your in the form of a spirit energy is all.The personal vision quest,power inhancers,etc. are to be used unselfeshly and to benifet everyone not just your own impowering like alot of religions.It's based on benifets of the community rather than personal spiritual benifet basically with native american religions.None of them are really religions in the european sense of religion it's mainly just survival and healing practices,prayers,beliefs,etc.

lol no I was using someone else's computer to write that last message. But luckily I have mine back now sooner than I thought! Well anyway thanks for your insight as well as the websites that you provided. I will look through them and get back to you. Thanks!